I wonder why we don't make these kinds of railway advances in the US.
They are. Lots of news in the local paper which unfortunately pulls online stories after they've been up a while. The track is running right through town here.
You probably don't remember some of the tragically awful repeated pans that infested music production not long after stereo became popular - left - right - left - right - left - right - jeez, I get the message, I've got two ears and you've got a crack-monkey for an engineer, enough already.
No, I don't remember that, and I'm 60. Can you name a single song from the '50s that did that? The only two I can think of are from the seventies (thirty years after the development of stereo LPs), both Led Zeppelin songs. One is "Whole Lotta Love" from the second album and "Hats Off to (Roy) Harper" from the third. In that one, the singer comes out of one channel while the guitar plays from the other.
But again, stereo was old hat by the seventies. I have an awful ot of music from the '50s when stereo was new and I can't think of a single song like that.
Bullshit. Ever hear of Hondo? 1953 John Wayne movie? 3D. In fact, stereoscopic "3D" was out ninety years ago. Of course, that was red-green. Polaroid was 1932, a year before alcohol was legalized. From the link:
In 1939, John Norling shot In Tune With Tomorrow, the first commercial 3D film using Polaroid in the US[citation needed]. This short premiered at the 1939 New York World's Fair and was created specifically for the Chrysler Motors Pavilion. In it, a full 1939 Chrysler Plymouth is magically put together, set to music. Originally in black and white, the film was so popular that it was re-shot in color for the following year at the fair, under the title New Dimensions[citation needed]. In 1953, it was reissued by RKO as Motor Rhythm.
Another early short that utilized the Polaroid 3D process was 1940's Magic Movies: Thrills For You produced by the Pennsylvania Railroad Co. for the Golden Gate International Exposition[citation needed]. Produced by John Norling, it was filmed by Jacob Leventhal using his own rig. It consisted of shots of various views that could be seen from the Pennsylvania Railroad's trains.
In the 1940s, World War II prioritized military applications of stereoscopic photography and it once again went on the back burner in most producers' minds.
Sheesh, kid, some of us have been around more than a couple of decades, so you might want to do a quick googling before you make yourself look foolish.
Your eyes don't see, your brain does. Your eyes merely transmit signals to the brain. And stereoscopy isn't he brain's only clue to distance, there are different forms of perspective (which only take one eye) and measure of the eye's focus.
Didn't I just educate you about his earlier in this thread?
As much as I hate to say it, the 3D format for film will probably be the future.
You think 3D is new? The "future"? Wrong, it's the past. The first commercial 3D film was shown in theaters ninety years ago.
If's an idea whose time has come and gone... and come and gone... and come and gone... in another thirty years they'll be trying to sell it to a brand new crop of ignorant yongsters with no clue of history as "the future".
When you buy a CD technically you only own the physical medium and only license the music
Yeah? Where's my copy of the license? There is no license; licensing is for distributors, not customers. When I buy a CD or DVD there is no license, I give the cashier my cash and he bags it and it's MINE. Period. There is no fucking license.
If you think I'm wrong, show me a citation or some logic to back up your stupid assertion.
I've never read any of your work and I'm not likely to, as I've never heard of you and never seen if your work is exceptional or crap. You expect me to buy your work sight-unseen? If so, you're a fool.
Nobody ever lost money from piracy, but many an author has starved in obscurity. If you're talented, your greed will guarantee your failure.
I guess you're all for shutting down the public libraries, too? Damn, dude, nice job shooting yourself in the foot.
there was a study that shows the stricter groups (Religions, Parties...) have a better retention and growth rate then the groups that are a bit more moderate.
Then why are the "fire and brimstone" Christian denominations shrinking while the "Jesus died to pay for your sins" nondenominational Christian churches thriving and growing?
Sorry, but the citction you're too lozy to look up is completely necessary in light of the facts.
Eh? People don't have 3D vision, they have stereoscopic vision. You see two scenes projected onto two 2D surfaces (your retines). Hence, the movies are pretty well matched to your vision system.
That's only part of how your brain percieves distance. There is stereoscopy, but also many different forms of perspective (which works on a 2D surface too), but your brain also looks at your eyes' focusing muscles and determines distance by how much the muscles are stretching your eye's lens.
Your eyes don't see, they simply send electrochemical impulses to the brain, which is the organ that really sees. And it does indeed see 3D, and sees far more than a stereoscopic photo can convey.
We don't permit people unwilling to learn to drive to use the roads,
Nobody ever died from someone using a computer who didn't know how, but many people die because someone else who didn't know how to use a car used one.
It'll be an interesting tech demo when we get holoprojectors and holocameras.
Holograms will require a huge increase in definition. Film has far smaller grains than any screen's pixels, and the film holograms I saw in college (a long time ago) were pretty grainy. Rather than storing an image, a hologram stores a diffraction pattern that displays the image when a laser is shined through it. Your holographic TV will have lasers and far, far smaller pixels than your "retina displays". I don't think we're near there yet.
And where the FUCK did these "Flag this comment as inappropriate" buttons come from?
They've been here for quite a while now, you're just now noticing them?
This a joke? What the hell happens if I push it?
An administrator or editor will look at it. If it's spam or something equally distasteful, it goes to -1 or is removed. It's nothing to worry about. Rather, worry about the hit to your karma from posting offtopic flames like, er, you just did.
Flicker isn't what causes the headaches, or 2D would give people headaches, too. The headache is eye strain caused by your eyes trying to focus on the spot stereoscopy tells your brain the object is at, while the real focal point is the screen. Your eyes are fighting themselves. No matter what your frame rate, stereoscopic "3D" is going to give people headaches.
The earliest confirmed 3D film shown to a paying audience was The Power of Love, which premiered at the Ambassador Hotel Theater in Los Angeles on 27 September 1922
We're not talking about "entitlements" here, we're talking about paying for a service and not getting it.
I don't how the Republicans got "entitlements" to be a dirty word, as if getting an "entitlement" is getting a handout. If I pay for a service, I'm entitled to that service, whether insurance or Social Security.
It is indeed an entitlement. You paid your money, you are entitled to the payout.
It seriously escapes me why everyone is on the race to the cloud and tablets when you need real regular computers to develop the apps for them.
Computers aren't going away, but most desktops are in a corporate environment, and MS has that market sewn up. Tablets are a good target for Linux, though.
I don't have a cite handy, but I have heard that in 20 years we'll be able to download the contents of the brain.
Yeah, and flying cars and fusion generators and a lot of other stuff that will probably never happen, too. Personally, I don't take much stock on anyone's predictions for the future.
The difference is, as soon as color came it took off. Few movies are shot in b&w these days, and only for effect when they do.
"3D", on the other hand, has been around for over sixty years. You think it will finally take off? I don't, if it was going to it would have half a century ago.
Since the 1950s there has been 3D after 3D after 3D but all anyone wants is the hologram of Princess Leia from the movie.
There are lots of problems with stereoscopic "3D". Your eyes (actually your brain)determine distance both by rangefinding and focus. When the two don't match (and they seldom will in a stereoscopic movie), many people get headaches.
Then there's the stupid glasses you have to wear.
Then there's the fact that 3D isn't really necessary.
But if you like 3D, never fear, it'll be back. It always is. As soon as a new crop of kids come around who think "3D" is new it will ressurect, just as it's done for over sixty years now.
Simply snipping an article excerpt, without correct context, is poor editorial work.
You must be new here. And moderators, the parent post, my comment, and every comment responding to the comment is offtopic. I don't come here to read someone whining about how bad the summary is, and the fact that it was first post makes it even worse.
Come on, guys, we need a whole lot of downmods here. It's all offtopic.
Also, Lockheed is a very big, very old company with layers of bereaucracy. The bigger the organization, the more bureaucracy is needed, and the more expensive their wares become. Spaxe-X is still young and lean.
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I wonder why we don't make these kinds of railway advances in the US.
They are. Lots of news in the local paper which unfortunately pulls online stories after they've been up a while. The track is running right through town here.
You probably don't remember some of the tragically awful repeated pans that infested music production not long after stereo became popular - left - right - left - right - left - right - jeez, I get the message, I've got two ears and you've got a crack-monkey for an engineer, enough already.
No, I don't remember that, and I'm 60. Can you name a single song from the '50s that did that? The only two I can think of are from the seventies (thirty years after the development of stereo LPs), both Led Zeppelin songs. One is "Whole Lotta Love" from the second album and "Hats Off to (Roy) Harper" from the third. In that one, the singer comes out of one channel while the guitar plays from the other.
But again, stereo was old hat by the seventies. I have an awful ot of music from the '50s when stereo was new and I can't think of a single song like that.
That was my first response when I saw his stupid comment, then it occurred to me he's trying vainly to be funny.
fake3d came out in the 70's.
Bullshit. Ever hear of Hondo? 1953 John Wayne movie? 3D. In fact, stereoscopic "3D" was out ninety years ago. Of course, that was red-green. Polaroid was 1932, a year before alcohol was legalized. From the link:
Sheesh, kid, some of us have been around more than a couple of decades, so you might want to do a quick googling before you make yourself look foolish.
Your eyes don't see, your brain does. Your eyes merely transmit signals to the brain. And stereoscopy isn't he brain's only clue to distance, there are different forms of perspective (which only take one eye) and measure of the eye's focus.
Didn't I just educate you about his earlier in this thread?
As much as I hate to say it, the 3D format for film will probably be the future.
You think 3D is new? The "future"? Wrong, it's the past. The first commercial 3D film was shown in theaters ninety years ago.
If's an idea whose time has come and gone... and come and gone... and come and gone... in another thirty years they'll be trying to sell it to a brand new crop of ignorant yongsters with no clue of history as "the future".
When you buy a CD technically you only own the physical medium and only license the music
Yeah? Where's my copy of the license? There is no license; licensing is for distributors, not customers. When I buy a CD or DVD there is no license, I give the cashier my cash and he bags it and it's MINE. Period. There is no fucking license.
If you think I'm wrong, show me a citation or some logic to back up your stupid assertion.
I've never read any of your work and I'm not likely to, as I've never heard of you and never seen if your work is exceptional or crap. You expect me to buy your work sight-unseen? If so, you're a fool.
Nobody ever lost money from piracy, but many an author has starved in obscurity. If you're talented, your greed will guarantee your failure.
I guess you're all for shutting down the public libraries, too? Damn, dude, nice job shooting yourself in the foot.
there was a study that shows the stricter groups (Religions, Parties...) have a better retention and growth rate then the groups that are a bit more moderate.
Then why are the "fire and brimstone" Christian denominations shrinking while the "Jesus died to pay for your sins" nondenominational Christian churches thriving and growing?
Sorry, but the citction you're too lozy to look up is completely necessary in light of the facts.
Eh? People don't have 3D vision, they have stereoscopic vision. You see two scenes projected onto two 2D surfaces (your retines). Hence, the movies are pretty well matched to your vision system.
That's only part of how your brain percieves distance. There is stereoscopy, but also many different forms of perspective (which works on a 2D surface too), but your brain also looks at your eyes' focusing muscles and determines distance by how much the muscles are stretching your eye's lens.
Your eyes don't see, they simply send electrochemical impulses to the brain, which is the organ that really sees. And it does indeed see 3D, and sees far more than a stereoscopic photo can convey.
I have to agree with KeenMustard, whoever modded the parent "troll" should never ever get mod points.
We don't permit people unwilling to learn to drive to use the roads,
Nobody ever died from someone using a computer who didn't know how, but many people die because someone else who didn't know how to use a car used one.
It'll be an interesting tech demo when we get holoprojectors and holocameras.
Holograms will require a huge increase in definition. Film has far smaller grains than any screen's pixels, and the film holograms I saw in college (a long time ago) were pretty grainy. Rather than storing an image, a hologram stores a diffraction pattern that displays the image when a laser is shined through it. Your holographic TV will have lasers and far, far smaller pixels than your "retina displays". I don't think we're near there yet.
And where the FUCK did these "Flag this comment as inappropriate" buttons come from?
They've been here for quite a while now, you're just now noticing them?
This a joke? What the hell happens if I push it?
An administrator or editor will look at it. If it's spam or something equally distasteful, it goes to -1 or is removed. It's nothing to worry about. Rather, worry about the hit to your karma from posting offtopic flames like, er, you just did.
100% flicker and headache free
Flicker isn't what causes the headaches, or 2D would give people headaches, too. The headache is eye strain caused by your eyes trying to focus on the spot stereoscopy tells your brain the object is at, while the real focal point is the screen. Your eyes are fighting themselves. No matter what your frame rate, stereoscopic "3D" is going to give people headaches.
unlike 3D which the film industry has been trying to ram down our throats for almost 60 years...
Try 90 years.
Yes, and what my brain received to process were 2 2D projections onto my retinae.
Your eyes also tell your brain where they were focused, 5 feet or 50? That plus the rangefinding abilities of stereoscopy is 3D.
We're not talking about "entitlements" here, we're talking about paying for a service and not getting it.
I don't how the Republicans got "entitlements" to be a dirty word, as if getting an "entitlement" is getting a handout. If I pay for a service, I'm entitled to that service, whether insurance or Social Security.
It is indeed an entitlement. You paid your money, you are entitled to the payout.
It seriously escapes me why everyone is on the race to the cloud and tablets when you need real regular computers to develop the apps for them.
Computers aren't going away, but most desktops are in a corporate environment, and MS has that market sewn up. Tablets are a good target for Linux, though.
I don't have a cite handy, but I have heard that in 20 years we'll be able to download the contents of the brain.
Yeah, and flying cars and fusion generators and a lot of other stuff that will probably never happen, too. Personally, I don't take much stock on anyone's predictions for the future.
The difference is, as soon as color came it took off. Few movies are shot in b&w these days, and only for effect when they do.
"3D", on the other hand, has been around for over sixty years. You think it will finally take off? I don't, if it was going to it would have half a century ago.
Since the 1950s there has been 3D after 3D after 3D but all anyone wants is the hologram of Princess Leia from the movie.
There are lots of problems with stereoscopic "3D". Your eyes (actually your brain)determine distance both by rangefinding and focus. When the two don't match (and they seldom will in a stereoscopic movie), many people get headaches.
Then there's the stupid glasses you have to wear.
Then there's the fact that 3D isn't really necessary.
But if you like 3D, never fear, it'll be back. It always is. As soon as a new crop of kids come around who think "3D" is new it will ressurect, just as it's done for over sixty years now.
Simply snipping an article excerpt, without correct context, is poor editorial work.
You must be new here. And moderators, the parent post, my comment, and every comment responding to the comment is offtopic. I don't come here to read someone whining about how bad the summary is, and the fact that it was first post makes it even worse.
Come on, guys, we need a whole lot of downmods here. It's all offtopic.
Also, Lockheed is a very big, very old company with layers of bereaucracy. The bigger the organization, the more bureaucracy is needed, and the more expensive their wares become. Spaxe-X is still young and lean.
Are there no workhouses, Ebeneezer? Are there no prisons?
You do have a right to go out into the world and get a job
Yeah, right, there are pleanty of good paying jobs these days. Have you seen the unemployment rate?
I pity heartless people like you.