Yes, but the AI was outlawed because people used the AI robots to enslave a population. The robots weren't evil, the people controlling them were. And yes, that is a danger, but so are other technologies... nuclear weapons, laser guided missles, etc.
The Dune robots were like guns -- harmless unless aimed at people.
I'm not a big horror flick fan, for example, and to me all of it is crap.
You would no more DL a horror flick than you would buy it. But an example, I'd never seen Bruce Willis or Morgan Freeman in a movie I didn't love. So when I saw "Red" at WalMart, a movie I hadn't even heard of, I bought it. Really BAD crappy movie. I paid $15 bucks for the piece of shit, will get maybe $2 for it at a used DVD store. I feel ripped off. That's $15 I no longer have to buy a GOOD movie. Whatever studio produced that turkey stole from a studio that produced a movie I might have otherwise bought.
Handbrake is a fine program, but still more hassle than the thirty seconds it takes to start DLing from TPB.
How's the anger management therapy coming along?;-)
I'm just annoyed that people still keep calling a dog a cat.
Although I could argue (and many do) that it's still money out of someone's pocket none the less.
If the downloader would have bought the title if he couldn't download it, then I agree that the downloader is in the wrong, and the content producer has been wronged and indeed lose money. However, many people who have been burned by shoddy product download to see if the content is worth paying for, and if it is will buy a legitimate copy. Others download when there is no legit copy available, in that case the content producer is wronging himself. Other times folks will download movies they already have on DVD because they want it on their computer and downloading is easier than ripping.
The artist and/or studio has made an investment in their product and deserves to get compensated for it
If you produce crap, you don't deserve compensation no matter how much time or money has been invested in it. Selling crap is fraud.
Any potentially data-corrupting hardware fault will cuase Windows to stop, and Linux to continue? I'm not sure that's a recommendation for Linux.
In the two cases I experienced, the first was ten years ago with a machine that dual-booted Mandrake and XP, and its power supply was dying. I thought it was normal Windows bugs making it bluescreen, reboot, and freeze, because the Linux side worked without a problem -- until the power supply died completely. The Windows crashes did corrupt data on occasion -- it didn't stop, it crashed.
The second wasn't flaky hardware per se, but a design flaw in the dual-boot notebook. If it was set to hibernate on battery but shut off on power when the lid was closed, and you closed the lid, then plugged it in before the lights stopped blinking, both OSes were confused; the machine wouldn't power back up without removing the battery. Whichever OS was running would perform disk diagnostics when powered back up, but it finally killed Windows, and the Windows partition's data weren't recoverable, even from Linux. So I reformatted the Windows partition and it was single-boot kubuntu from then until it was stolen.
Seriously, though, this guy has no credentials that I can see form the summary. He isn't an art historian, he's a humanities professor. It's like a geologist rating neurobiologists.
TFS mentions a bunch of dead artists, Titian having been dead for over 500 years. IMO Pollack is overrated, although his technique was revolutionary.
Have you ever seen an Audrey Flack painting? Not a reproduction, but one of the actual works? Her paintings are breathtakingly beautiful, and I mean breathtaking quite literally. One doesn't say "my, but that's pretty," one says "WOW! Holy shit!" Lucas can't hold a candle to her.
I'd rate Mel Gibson far higher than Lucas; "Passion" was Caravaggio in film. That movie was Art with a capital A. None of Lucas' movies were. "Patriot" and "Braveheart" were likewise worthy of the title "Art" in contrast to Lucas' purely commercially driven stuff. Yeah, Lucas movies are fun to watch, but art they ain't.
You're making my point. The examples you give--auto assembly, driving spikes, calculations--are all deterministic activities that are relatively easy to reduce to repeatable actions performed by machine.
So is driving. As with the other automations, machines do the job better than humans.
Traffic on the roads is a complex system with potentially chaotic behavior.
Humans don't cope too well with chaos. Humans freak out, computers don't. Computers simply follow pre-defined rules.
There are posts suggesting we are heading to the point that driving your own car will be illegal because people will be a danger to computer-controlled vehicles.
I think it will be after my time, but it ill come. Not to protect computer-controlled vehicles, but to protect the human passengers.
That we can program a computer to control a robotic arm to repeatably weld the same spot on an auto body does not suggest we are close programming a computer to drive a car in traffic.
It's already been accomplished with Google Car. Computers have driven those cars hundreds of thousands of miles without a single incident.
As I said in another reply, are you ready to let Amazon send you what their suggestion system picks out for you?
Apples and oranges and not the least relevant. I wouldn't want an Amazon employee picking my books any more than I'd want one of their computers to.
I am all for tools to help me--whether it's suggestions from a retailer or a blind spot warning on a car--but I am not ready to turn over complete control.
You sound like my daughter, who refuses to use a cruise control. It's an irrational, emotional response.
People run windows 24-7 365 days a year without a problem.
Bullshit, every Patch Tuesday requires a reboot. That said, about the only time my W7 notebook gets booted is on Patch Tuesday, I put it in huibernate mode rather than shutting it off as I do my Linux computer, because I don't want to have to reopen all the apps and docs.
You come on a site where geeks rule and most don't give a damn about writting properly. I do my best to write good English and I fail at times. SO BE IT!
As I said, I was attempting to be helpful; I guessed you were probably not a native speaker. You do far better than I would in a Spanish language site (I haven't needed Spanish for decades, and rust never sleeps).
Sometimes I do comment on slashdot at the bar, but not that one. And far from being an Apple fan, the only Apple gear I own is an old G3 someone gave me that I never used (I did like the IIe back in the day). Right now I have a Win7 notebook, a kubuntu tower, and an XP tower (XP since EAC is Windows-only and the alternatives like Audacity lack key features).
Really, if the hardware doesn't work, there's little or nothing the OS can do to protect itself.
Well, any hardware can be flaky, and some hardware flakiness will of course always be fatal. I've fortunately never had the misfortune of getting bad memory. Well, not computer memory anyway (I'm getting old and my meatram seems to be getting full).
You cannot invite the government to be involved in every aspect of your life that you WANT them to
What I WANT them to do is to protect me from the dishonest. I don't think anyone honest would have a problem with that. That includes welfare for the poor so they don't break into my house.
Oh, roads, bridges, schools, infrastructure... I don't want the private sector to have enything to do with them. I need protection from the dishonest private sector robber barons, especially ones like Amerin.
There is an edit button. It's labeled "preview". If you could edit your comments after posting, you could post a funny comment, have it modded to +5, and then change it to a GNAA troll.
There has to be something in place to prevent people from outright stealing of music and movies.
This isn't about theft, it's about infringing copyright. Call a spade a spade and stop drinking Hollywood kool-aid. Words have specific meanings; rape isn't murder and murder isn't theft.
I'll point out the difference between the two.
Stealing a movie: you go to wal-mart and walk out with a DVD without paying for it. Wal-mart is out the cost they paid for the movie. In the US, if you're caught, it's a misdemeanor with no jail time and a few hundred bucks fine.
Copyright infringement: You DL the movie from TPB. The movie studio still has their movie. Nobody has lost anything unless you would have otherwise bought it. If caught in the US, you will be on the hook for thousands of dollars.
Copyright infringement is NOT theft, and the next time I see some moron talk about "stealing movies" or "stealing songs" I'm calling them a moron, moron, because I'm really getting tired of morons seeing a horse and saying "what a cute doggie!"
Obviously, places like the US ignored our copyright laws, which makes the current RIAA/MAFIAA hysteria somewhat ironic
Indeed. When the US was new, US copyright laws only applied to US works. The result was that US writers couldn't get published, since the publishers could get the British titles for free. Lack of US authors is why we started honoring British copyrights.
I find this incredibly stupid because part of the purpose of windows is stability.
Is that a joke, or have you simply never run any other OS? Windows is the least stable of any OS out there. Any hardware fault hoses Window while Linux will chug along without a hiccup. Plus they have a very bad habit of changing everything around with every release so you have to relearn everything. The only way I can tell one version of Windows from another is it's completely different, to the point that I had a laptop in a bar running Linux, and someone asked "which version of Windows is that?" OTOH, if you were used to Mandrake from ten years ago and switched to kubuntu you'd feel right at home. The way to tell the difference between two versions of a linux distro is the latest will be faster and have more features.
And why would anyone upgrade Windows in the first place? I seldom see new features, never see increased speed (except that it seems that way because the registry makes sure it gets slower the more you use it), and you have to figure out where they put stuff. Often it actually loses functionality; I really miss XP's search on my W7 notebook.
The only reason to upgrade Windows is often the newer software won't run on he older OS. I've never had that problem in Linux, and seldom in Windows.
Nope, just as bed here in the US. Some businesses have had so many ACs ruined because thieves took the copper piping they've started surrounding them with locked fences and cameras. One dumbass got himself killed here in Springfield trying to steal wire off of a power line.
BSOD could be from anything. Hardly an accurate way to determine a bad hard drive.
Indeed, ten years ago I was getting bluescreens because of a flaky power supply. But as to your having no problems, you're running Linux. Linux is far more robust than Windows; the above mentioned PC was dual boot, and the Mandrake side had no problems whatever, while it would bluescreen constantly in Windows.
You must be a superhero-level slashdotter if you host enough dance parties for digital music to make any difference in your lifestyle.
He probably makes a few extra bucks DJing as a hobby. They occasionally have a DJ at the redneck bar in the ghetto I drink at (its motto: "Got Guts?"). I haven't really spoken to the guy, but he looks like a stereotype of a nerd. Of course, looks can be deceiving, I got rid of the thick glasses and cut my beard into a goatee. Nobody knows I'm a nerd in Felbers until I start talking to Crazy John.
Notice that most DJs these days play their music from two or more laptops.
Was this guy setup for failure by having to meeting google map standards overnight? Firing people sometimes is an escape goat for companies mistakes.
Gees, kid... damn but I'm getting old. I remember when people actually used to read books... ok, no I don't. Most people were always aliterate. But here are a couple of clues for literates who don't read.
First, "setup" is a noun. "It's a setup!!!" The verb has a space in it; "set up." I see this way too often, as well as "noone" for "no one" and I take the blame for that; it was a typo I made fifteen years ago when I didn't hit the space key hard enough and didn't proofread. So if "noone" annoys you, sorry, that's my fault. The original "noone" was a typo, as was most likely "setup" as a verb (someone else's typo).
Secondly, you need an apostrophe for the posessive plural --"companies' mistakes".
Thirdly, there's a funny comment lower about your "escape goat". It's "Scapegoat" and it's an ancient word still widely used (or in aliterate cases, misused). In modern usage a scapegoat is an individual, group, or country singled out for unmerited negative treatment or blame. It comes from the common English translation of the Hebrew term azazel which occurs in Leviticus 16:8.
In ancient Greece a cripple or beggar or criminal (the pharmakos) was cast out of the community, either in response to a natural disaster (such as a plague, famine or an invasion) or in response to a calendrical crisis (such as the end of the year). In the Bible, the scapegoat was a goat that was designated to be cast out in the desert as part of the ceremonies of the Day of Atonement, that began during the Exodus with the original Tabernacle and continued through the times of the temples in Jerusalem.
In psychology and sociology, the practice of selecting someone as a scapegoat has led to the concept of scapegoating.
But in this case, the guy wasn't a scapegoat, he was a fuckup. He was head of the mapping team, it was his responsibility to get it right. Had it been his secretary who had been fired, the secretary would have been a scapegoat.
Here is a picture of a scapegoat, painted by William Holman Hunt in 1854, from wikipedia.
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Yes, but the AI was outlawed because people used the AI robots to enslave a population. The robots weren't evil, the people controlling them were. And yes, that is a danger, but so are other technologies... nuclear weapons, laser guided missles, etc.
The Dune robots were like guns -- harmless unless aimed at people.
I'm not a big horror flick fan, for example, and to me all of it is crap.
You would no more DL a horror flick than you would buy it. But an example, I'd never seen Bruce Willis or Morgan Freeman in a movie I didn't love. So when I saw "Red" at WalMart, a movie I hadn't even heard of, I bought it. Really BAD crappy movie. I paid $15 bucks for the piece of shit, will get maybe $2 for it at a used DVD store. I feel ripped off. That's $15 I no longer have to buy a GOOD movie. Whatever studio produced that turkey stole from a studio that produced a movie I might have otherwise bought.
Handbrake is a fine program, but still more hassle than the thirty seconds it takes to start DLing from TPB.
You never read Herbert's DUNE or any of Asimov's robot stories?
Not being an Apple user I'll defer to your experience.
How's the anger management therapy coming along? ;-)
I'm just annoyed that people still keep calling a dog a cat.
Although I could argue (and many do) that it's still money out of someone's pocket none the less.
If the downloader would have bought the title if he couldn't download it, then I agree that the downloader is in the wrong, and the content producer has been wronged and indeed lose money. However, many people who have been burned by shoddy product download to see if the content is worth paying for, and if it is will buy a legitimate copy. Others download when there is no legit copy available, in that case the content producer is wronging himself. Other times folks will download movies they already have on DVD because they want it on their computer and downloading is easier than ripping.
The artist and/or studio has made an investment in their product and deserves to get compensated for it
If you produce crap, you don't deserve compensation no matter how much time or money has been invested in it. Selling crap is fraud.
Any potentially data-corrupting hardware fault will cuase Windows to stop, and Linux to continue? I'm not sure that's a recommendation for Linux.
In the two cases I experienced, the first was ten years ago with a machine that dual-booted Mandrake and XP, and its power supply was dying. I thought it was normal Windows bugs making it bluescreen, reboot, and freeze, because the Linux side worked without a problem -- until the power supply died completely. The Windows crashes did corrupt data on occasion -- it didn't stop, it crashed.
The second wasn't flaky hardware per se, but a design flaw in the dual-boot notebook. If it was set to hibernate on battery but shut off on power when the lid was closed, and you closed the lid, then plugged it in before the lights stopped blinking, both OSes were confused; the machine wouldn't power back up without removing the battery. Whichever OS was running would perform disk diagnostics when powered back up, but it finally killed Windows, and the Windows partition's data weren't recoverable, even from Linux. So I reformatted the Windows partition and it was single-boot kubuntu from then until it was stolen.
He's obviously not seen my work ;)
Seriously, though, this guy has no credentials that I can see form the summary. He isn't an art historian, he's a humanities professor. It's like a geologist rating neurobiologists.
TFS mentions a bunch of dead artists, Titian having been dead for over 500 years. IMO Pollack is overrated, although his technique was revolutionary.
Have you ever seen an Audrey Flack painting? Not a reproduction, but one of the actual works? Her paintings are breathtakingly beautiful, and I mean breathtaking quite literally. One doesn't say "my, but that's pretty," one says "WOW! Holy shit!" Lucas can't hold a candle to her.
I'd rate Mel Gibson far higher than Lucas; "Passion" was Caravaggio in film. That movie was Art with a capital A. None of Lucas' movies were. "Patriot" and "Braveheart" were likewise worthy of the title "Art" in contrast to Lucas' purely commercially driven stuff. Yeah, Lucas movies are fun to watch, but art they ain't.
You're making my point. The examples you give--auto assembly, driving spikes, calculations--are all deterministic activities that are relatively easy to reduce to repeatable actions performed by machine.
So is driving. As with the other automations, machines do the job better than humans.
Traffic on the roads is a complex system with potentially chaotic behavior.
Humans don't cope too well with chaos. Humans freak out, computers don't. Computers simply follow pre-defined rules.
There are posts suggesting we are heading to the point that driving your own car will be illegal because people will be a danger to computer-controlled vehicles.
I think it will be after my time, but it ill come. Not to protect computer-controlled vehicles, but to protect the human passengers.
That we can program a computer to control a robotic arm to repeatably weld the same spot on an auto body does not suggest we are close programming a computer to drive a car in traffic.
It's already been accomplished with Google Car. Computers have driven those cars hundreds of thousands of miles without a single incident.
As I said in another reply, are you ready to let Amazon send you what their suggestion system picks out for you?
Apples and oranges and not the least relevant. I wouldn't want an Amazon employee picking my books any more than I'd want one of their computers to.
I am all for tools to help me--whether it's suggestions from a retailer or a blind spot warning on a car--but I am not ready to turn over complete control.
You sound like my daughter, who refuses to use a cruise control. It's an irrational, emotional response.
So if your cpu faults, linux keeps running?
Of course not, are you going for +5 funny?
People run windows 24-7 365 days a year without a problem.
Bullshit, every Patch Tuesday requires a reboot. That said, about the only time my W7 notebook gets booted is on Patch Tuesday, I put it in huibernate mode rather than shutting it off as I do my Linux computer, because I don't want to have to reopen all the apps and docs.
You come on a site where geeks rule and most don't give a damn about writting properly. I do my best to write good English and I fail at times. SO BE IT!
As I said, I was attempting to be helpful; I guessed you were probably not a native speaker. You do far better than I would in a Spanish language site (I haven't needed Spanish for decades, and rust never sleeps).
Sometimes I do comment on slashdot at the bar, but not that one. And far from being an Apple fan, the only Apple gear I own is an old G3 someone gave me that I never used (I did like the IIe back in the day). Right now I have a Win7 notebook, a kubuntu tower, and an XP tower (XP since EAC is Windows-only and the alternatives like Audacity lack key features).
Really, if the hardware doesn't work, there's little or nothing the OS can do to protect itself.
Well, any hardware can be flaky, and some hardware flakiness will of course always be fatal. I've fortunately never had the misfortune of getting bad memory. Well, not computer memory anyway (I'm getting old and my meatram seems to be getting full).
Not surprising, as that's been my experience.
Citation sorely needed.
You cannot invite the government to be involved in every aspect of your life that you WANT them to
What I WANT them to do is to protect me from the dishonest. I don't think anyone honest would have a problem with that. That includes welfare for the poor so they don't break into my house.
Oh, roads, bridges, schools, infrastructure... I don't want the private sector to have enything to do with them. I need protection from the dishonest private sector robber barons, especially ones like Amerin.
There is an edit button. It's labeled "preview". If you could edit your comments after posting, you could post a funny comment, have it modded to +5, and then change it to a GNAA troll.
Just use the preview button and pay attention.
There has to be something in place to prevent people from outright stealing of music and movies.
This isn't about theft, it's about infringing copyright. Call a spade a spade and stop drinking Hollywood kool-aid. Words have specific meanings; rape isn't murder and murder isn't theft.
I'll point out the difference between the two.
Stealing a movie: you go to wal-mart and walk out with a DVD without paying for it. Wal-mart is out the cost they paid for the movie. In the US, if you're caught, it's a misdemeanor with no jail time and a few hundred bucks fine.
Copyright infringement: You DL the movie from TPB. The movie studio still has their movie. Nobody has lost anything unless you would have otherwise bought it. If caught in the US, you will be on the hook for thousands of dollars.
Copyright infringement is NOT theft, and the next time I see some moron talk about "stealing movies" or "stealing songs" I'm calling them a moron, moron, because I'm really getting tired of morons seeing a horse and saying "what a cute doggie!"
It's not a word, it's an acronym for "situation normal, all fucked up." Seems appropriate to me.
Obviously, places like the US ignored our copyright laws, which makes the current RIAA/MAFIAA hysteria somewhat ironic
Indeed. When the US was new, US copyright laws only applied to US works. The result was that US writers couldn't get published, since the publishers could get the British titles for free. Lack of US authors is why we started honoring British copyrights.
I find this incredibly stupid because part of the purpose of windows is stability.
Is that a joke, or have you simply never run any other OS? Windows is the least stable of any OS out there. Any hardware fault hoses Window while Linux will chug along without a hiccup. Plus they have a very bad habit of changing everything around with every release so you have to relearn everything. The only way I can tell one version of Windows from another is it's completely different, to the point that I had a laptop in a bar running Linux, and someone asked "which version of Windows is that?" OTOH, if you were used to Mandrake from ten years ago and switched to kubuntu you'd feel right at home. The way to tell the difference between two versions of a linux distro is the latest will be faster and have more features.
And why would anyone upgrade Windows in the first place? I seldom see new features, never see increased speed (except that it seems that way because the registry makes sure it gets slower the more you use it), and you have to figure out where they put stuff. Often it actually loses functionality; I really miss XP's search on my W7 notebook.
The only reason to upgrade Windows is often the newer software won't run on he older OS. I've never had that problem in Linux, and seldom in Windows.
Or maybe this is just a problem in the UK
Nope, just as bed here in the US. Some businesses have had so many ACs ruined because thieves took the copper piping they've started surrounding them with locked fences and cameras. One dumbass got himself killed here in Springfield trying to steal wire off of a power line.
BSOD could be from anything. Hardly an accurate way to determine a bad hard drive.
Indeed, ten years ago I was getting bluescreens because of a flaky power supply. But as to your having no problems, you're running Linux. Linux is far more robust than Windows; the above mentioned PC was dual boot, and the Mandrake side had no problems whatever, while it would bluescreen constantly in Windows.
You must be a superhero-level slashdotter if you host enough dance parties for digital music to make any difference in your lifestyle.
He probably makes a few extra bucks DJing as a hobby. They occasionally have a DJ at the redneck bar in the ghetto I drink at (its motto: "Got Guts?"). I haven't really spoken to the guy, but he looks like a stereotype of a nerd. Of course, looks can be deceiving, I got rid of the thick glasses and cut my beard into a goatee. Nobody knows I'm a nerd in Felbers until I start talking to Crazy John.
Notice that most DJs these days play their music from two or more laptops.
Was this guy setup for failure by having to meeting google map standards overnight? Firing people sometimes is an escape goat for companies mistakes.
Gees, kid... damn but I'm getting old. I remember when people actually used to read books... ok, no I don't. Most people were always aliterate. But here are a couple of clues for literates who don't read.
First, "setup" is a noun. "It's a setup!!!" The verb has a space in it; "set up." I see this way too often, as well as "noone" for "no one" and I take the blame for that; it was a typo I made fifteen years ago when I didn't hit the space key hard enough and didn't proofread. So if "noone" annoys you, sorry, that's my fault. The original "noone" was a typo, as was most likely "setup" as a verb (someone else's typo).
Secondly, you need an apostrophe for the posessive plural --"companies' mistakes".
Thirdly, there's a funny comment lower about your "escape goat". It's "Scapegoat" and it's an ancient word still widely used (or in aliterate cases, misused). In modern usage a scapegoat is an individual, group, or country singled out for unmerited negative treatment or blame. It comes from the common English translation of the Hebrew term azazel which occurs in Leviticus 16:8.
In ancient Greece a cripple or beggar or criminal (the pharmakos) was cast out of the community, either in response to a natural disaster (such as a plague, famine or an invasion) or in response to a calendrical crisis (such as the end of the year). In the Bible, the scapegoat was a goat that was designated to be cast out in the desert as part of the ceremonies of the Day of Atonement, that began during the Exodus with the original Tabernacle and continued through the times of the temples in Jerusalem.
In psychology and sociology, the practice of selecting someone as a scapegoat has led to the concept of scapegoating.
But in this case, the guy wasn't a scapegoat, he was a fuckup. He was head of the mapping team, it was his responsibility to get it right. Had it been his secretary who had been fired, the secretary would have been a scapegoat.
Here is a picture of a scapegoat, painted by William Holman Hunt in 1854, from wikipedia.
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making money on someone else's work is wrong
Every business in the world, large and small, make money off of their employees' work. How is this wrong?
If someone ripped off Libre Office and started selling copies for cash and violating the GPL, everyone on slashdot would be going apeshit over it.
You can sell as many copies of Liibre office as you want. The GPL doesn't prevent you from making money on free software.