Not in the US. Today is Independence Day. Schools, banks, all government offices and many businesses are closed here today. Fireworks have been going off for two weeks.
It's almost ten o'clock here, When I finish watching The Patriot I think I'll walk down to Felbers. Hell, I think I'll drink one now in honor of the folks at the LHC and Fermilab.
Glad Iraq is over or Hadron Destroyers would already be obsolete. More seriously, this is pretty exciting. I think I'll take a few more math classes so I can better understand it.
If you use a service via a thick client, you still end up sending your data to the provider of that service.
That's exactly what I said. "If the data is coming from the internet, like a radio stream, you should need no app. When your data is produced locally, you should need no internet." No internet, no client.
BTW, I should have said "data are" rather than "data is".
It was a recurring theme in Superman comics over half a century ago (I'm 60). Rather than being spherical like normal planets are, this one was a cube, with everything exactly like Earth only exactly the opposite.
I wouldn't doubt if there was an app for it... there seems to be one for everything.
I think your sarcastic joke was pretty flat, considering the fuel injector came along only 40 years after the carburator. Fuel injection was in widespread commercial use in diesel engines by the mid-1920s, and was in gasoline engines by 1925 (see wikipedia for details).
Fuel injection only seems new, because until relatively recently most cars had carbs.
I know 18 year olds with landlines and I know 60 year olds that use a cell phone exclusively.
I'm 60 and have used a cell exclusively for ten years, but I don't know any 18 year olds with landlines. In fact, about the only people I know with landlines are over 70. Landlines are obsolete technology. And the cable landlines are voip, but they use normal telephones (if you call obsolete tech "normal") that act exactly like normal phones. It doesn't matter of it's digital or analog, it's the same old phone.
Though if it's your internet provider that keeps calling you (unless they also happen to be the phone company), they aren't really offering a "landline", they're just offering some VOIP service which is not nearly the same thing.
Nope, I use AT&T for internet and Boost for my cell (flat $45 for unlimited everything) and have no cable, AT&T keeps trying to sell me TV, landlines, and cell service bundles. I keep deleting the emails and throwing the snailmails away.
so when you break your arm, and you have no insurance, and you go to the hospital, and avoid the bill because you don't have a $50,000 healthcare fund in your checking account and you live paycheck to paycheck like most americans, the rest of us will have to pay that $3,000 to fix your arm
to people like you, freedom means freedom from responsibility
you're a freeloader
If you're living from PAYCHECK to PAYCHECK you're hardly being a freeloader. I wouldn't say Canadians or Europeans, who have sane health care policies freeloaders, even the ones who can't find work at all.
I have insurance through my employer and usually enjoy my work, but the guy working at McDonalds who most likely hates his job and makes less than half of what I do and has no insurance is a freeloader, but I'm not?
with single payer, we will eventually bring our healthcare costs in line with most other modern countries in this world
The trouble is, this unfortunately isn't a single-payer system, it's a gift to the insurance industry. IMO there should be no such thing as mediacal insurance or malpractice insurance. Health care, like police and fire protection, should come from taxes like civilized nations do, not force me to pay a parasitic private insurance company.
I would have agreed with you if the Affordable Care Act actually did make this a single payer system, but the parasitic corporations are still in the mix, so this won't reduce costs for anyone.
Isn't this whole HTML 5 business basically Browsers becoming fat clients, by your definition?
They want all your data on their servers is why they keep pusing the "fat client is dead" meme. I doubt they'll ever give up; just like Intel was soundly trounced for suggesting something like UEFI fifteen years ago, followed by Microsoft being soundly trounced for Palladium (UEFI ten yeras ago), and now they're still at at, the bastards.
The "fat client is dead, the cloud is better!" bullshit is no different. They want to control YOUR computer and YOUR data.
Rise up and fight this absurd madness!
What's worse is the "phone apps are making phones fat clients." No, what's making phones "fat clients" is the same thing as making your PC a thin client -- their desire for control over your data. "Want to listen to our radio station on your Android or iPhone? We have an app for that!" when a simple web page served to your browser should work. Point your phone's browser to WQNA and click the aac or mp3 link, you should hear them on your phone. Why can't other stations do that? (BTW, in about five hours they'll be playing ska and raggae; it's a local college station that you can never be sure what genre is going to be played. I once heard Johnny Cash followed by the Dead Kennedies on that station).
If the data is coming from the internet, like a radio stream, you should need no app. When your data is produced locally, you should need no internet.
Why are we letting these people from Bizarro World fuck everything up, anyway?
1. Click "start" 2. Right click what you want to pin 3. Click "pin to task bar" 4. Done!
Gees, I knew that and I use Linux more often than I use Windows! You could do it in XP, but it involved copying a.lnk file to some obscure subdirectory (I've forgotten where).
Nah. Everything about Romney is made in America. Even his religion.
The worship of money and power is an American invention? Tell that to the aristocracy in feudal Europe, although the fist cave man to take another cave man's shint seashells by force was probably the first..
what kind of advantage does Linux actually offers?
Speed
Hardware fault tolerance
Repositories (safe, easy software installation)
Reboots only neded for hardware installation and kernel updates; even installing new software requires no reboot
When you do reboot, it comes up as you left it
No AV needed
Far better file managers
If you have to reinstall (say, because you're replacing the hard drive) you don't have to search for drivers (an old XP Dell is giving me fits with this rright now)
Reinstallation takes 1/5 the time and 1/10th the effort
Costs absolutely nothing
Easier to maintain
Probably a whole lot more I can't think of off the top of my head. The thing is, Windows takes a lot of fiddling, Linux takes almost none (this is reversed for servers iinm). An example is installing a bluetooth dongle, as I did last year.
I thought it wasn't going to work on the Linux box, as it had installation software for Mac and Windows, but not Linux. So I installed the software on the Windows box, rebooted, rebooted again, fiddled with the program to get it to work, and moved some pictures from my phone.
Curious, I plugged the dongle into the Linux box -- and it just worked. That is Linux's biggest advantage. Doing something that takes ten clicks in Windows takes two in Linux. It's just easier to use.
Obviously the writing of a history so soon after the event has involved breaking much new ground...
Further research will undoubtedly disclose errors and deficiencies in the book, and the passage of time will reveal the shortsightedness of many of my judgments and interpretations. A contemporary history is bound to be anything but definitive. Yet half the enjoyment of writing it has lain in the effort to reduce to some sort of logical and coherent order a mass of material untouched by any previous historian; and I have wondered whether some readers might not be interested and perhaps amused to find events and circumstances which they remember well which seem to have happened only yesterday-woven into a pattern which at least masquerades as history. One advantage the book will have over most histories: hardly anyone old enough to read it can fail to remember the entire period with which it deals.
The linked book (posted in full at the link) was required reading in an undergrad general studies history class I took in the late 1970s. It was published in 1933 and concerned the 1920s.
You're right, it didn't happen overnight, and Tandy and Commodore and others continued to sell relatively cheap computers for the home. I should have said it pretty much killed the CP/M machines that businesses had been using.
He got away with it because the regulators never investigated any of the red flags that should have clued them that something about his scheme was dodgy
Well, yes, there were changes; the original keyblard plugs looked like they belonged on a Mac truck, the busses have chenged a couple of times, but I had an IMB XT I bought used, and simply kept upgrading it. Added a Hercules card for graphics, later a VGA card; added a sound card (not available at all from IBM), memory, joystick, none of which were IBM. At one point, the only original parts were the case, power supply, and keyboard; I'd changed out the motherboard for a 386 (probably was the world's fastest IBM XT if you could still call it one).
One of the reasons the PS2 never took off was because of its parts incompatibility.
No, they have a trademark on a Stratocaster. If you smoke pot on a mountain, it will get you more stoned than at sea level. The stratodoober is like smoking a doobie in the stratosphere. Although I have no more idea how one works than Gene Roddenberry knew how a warp drive worked.
I would bet those folks don't live within staggering distance or within bus distance from those 5 bars.
There are few homes in town that don't have at least one bar within walking distance. Churches, too -- you can't throw a bible withot breaking a stained glass window.
The scene in the Simpsons move where the people in the church all run to the bar, while the people in the bar run next door to the church isn't far from reality in the 3D meatspece Springfield.
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Not in the US. Today is Independence Day. Schools, banks, all government offices and many businesses are closed here today. Fireworks have been going off for two weeks.
It's almost ten o'clock here, When I finish watching The Patriot I think I'll walk down to Felbers. Hell, I think I'll drink one now in honor of the folks at the LHC and Fermilab.
I got a lot more knowledge reading the comments in this thread than from any of the MSM reports I read.
My question is, how will this affect the ongoing war between Dr. Cooper and Dr. Winkle?
No, no, it is really the particle's mass.
Whoa, that's heavy, man! (takes another toke)
Glad Iraq is over or Hadron Destroyers would already be obsolete. More seriously, this is pretty exciting. I think I'll take a few more math classes so I can better understand it.
Thank you, there are more of them.
If you use a service via a thick client, you still end up sending your data to the provider of that service.
That's exactly what I said. "If the data is coming from the internet, like a radio stream, you should need no app. When your data is produced locally, you should need no internet." No internet, no client.
BTW, I should have said "data are" rather than "data is".
What, BTW, do you mean with "Bizarro World"
It was a recurring theme in Superman comics over half a century ago (I'm 60). Rather than being spherical like normal planets are, this one was a cube, with everything exactly like Earth only exactly the opposite.
I wouldn't doubt if there was an app for it... there seems to be one for everything.
I think your sarcastic joke was pretty flat, considering the fuel injector came along only 40 years after the carburator. Fuel injection was in widespread commercial use in diesel engines by the mid-1920s, and was in gasoline engines by 1925 (see wikipedia for details).
Fuel injection only seems new, because until relatively recently most cars had carbs.
If you don't like it, you have many options including not upgrading to Windows 8
Yeah, like now you can buy a computer without upgrading from XP to Windows 7?
or applying what will most certainly be a large array of hacks, tweaks, and UI modifications to get windows working the way you want it to
Hell of a lot easier to just install Linux and be rid of that damned POS Windows, no hacks or tweaks necessary.
I actually love the ribbon.
Well, not all of us are masochists. You probably like being hit on the head, too.
To quote The Pietasters from their Strapped Live album, "Zanax -- because life's too good". Chill, dude, before you pop an artery.
I know 18 year olds with landlines and I know 60 year olds that use a cell phone exclusively.
I'm 60 and have used a cell exclusively for ten years, but I don't know any 18 year olds with landlines. In fact, about the only people I know with landlines are over 70. Landlines are obsolete technology. And the cable landlines are voip, but they use normal telephones (if you call obsolete tech "normal") that act exactly like normal phones. It doesn't matter of it's digital or analog, it's the same old phone.
Though if it's your internet provider that keeps calling you (unless they also happen to be the phone company), they aren't really offering a "landline", they're just offering some VOIP service which is not nearly the same thing.
Nope, I use AT&T for internet and Boost for my cell (flat $45 for unlimited everything) and have no cable, AT&T keeps trying to sell me TV, landlines, and cell service bundles. I keep deleting the emails and throwing the snailmails away.
so when you break your arm, and you have no insurance, and you go to the hospital, and avoid the bill because you don't have a $50,000 healthcare fund in your checking account and you live paycheck to paycheck like most americans, the rest of us will have to pay that $3,000 to fix your arm
to people like you, freedom means freedom from responsibility
you're a freeloader
If you're living from PAYCHECK to PAYCHECK you're hardly being a freeloader. I wouldn't say Canadians or Europeans, who have sane health care policies freeloaders, even the ones who can't find work at all.
I have insurance through my employer and usually enjoy my work, but the guy working at McDonalds who most likely hates his job and makes less than half of what I do and has no insurance is a freeloader, but I'm not?
with single payer, we will eventually bring our healthcare costs in line with most other modern countries in this world
The trouble is, this unfortunately isn't a single-payer system, it's a gift to the insurance industry. IMO there should be no such thing as mediacal insurance or malpractice insurance. Health care, like police and fire protection, should come from taxes like civilized nations do, not force me to pay a parasitic private insurance company.
I would have agreed with you if the Affordable Care Act actually did make this a single payer system, but the parasitic corporations are still in the mix, so this won't reduce costs for anyone.
Isn't this whole HTML 5 business basically Browsers becoming fat clients, by your definition?
They want all your data on their servers is why they keep pusing the "fat client is dead" meme. I doubt they'll ever give up; just like Intel was soundly trounced for suggesting something like UEFI fifteen years ago, followed by Microsoft being soundly trounced for Palladium (UEFI ten yeras ago), and now they're still at at, the bastards.
The "fat client is dead, the cloud is better!" bullshit is no different. They want to control YOUR computer and YOUR data.
Rise up and fight this absurd madness!
What's worse is the "phone apps are making phones fat clients." No, what's making phones "fat clients" is the same thing as making your PC a thin client -- their desire for control over your data. "Want to listen to our radio station on your Android or iPhone? We have an app for that!" when a simple web page served to your browser should work. Point your phone's browser to WQNA and click the aac or mp3 link, you should hear them on your phone. Why can't other stations do that? (BTW, in about five hours they'll be playing ska and raggae; it's a local college station that you can never be sure what genre is going to be played. I once heard Johnny Cash followed by the Dead Kennedies on that station).
If the data is coming from the internet, like a radio stream, you should need no app. When your data is produced locally, you should need no internet.
Why are we letting these people from Bizarro World fuck everything up, anyway?
Atari turning 40 implies that it's still alive
No it doesn't.
1. Click "start"
2. Right click what you want to pin
3. Click "pin to task bar"
4. Done!
Gees, I knew that and I use Linux more often than I use Windows! You could do it in XP, but it involved copying a .lnk file to some obscure subdirectory (I've forgotten where).
Nah. Everything about Romney is made in America. Even his religion.
The worship of money and power is an American invention? Tell that to the aristocracy in feudal Europe, although the fist cave man to take another cave man's shint seashells by force was probably the first..
what kind of advantage does Linux actually offers?
Probably a whole lot more I can't think of off the top of my head. The thing is, Windows takes a lot of fiddling, Linux takes almost none (this is reversed for servers iinm). An example is installing a bluetooth dongle, as I did last year.
I thought it wasn't going to work on the Linux box, as it had installation software for Mac and Windows, but not Linux. So I installed the software on the Windows box, rebooted, rebooted again, fiddled with the program to get it to work, and moved some pictures from my phone.
Curious, I plugged the dongle into the Linux box -- and it just worked. That is Linux's biggest advantage. Doing something that takes ten clicks in Windows takes two in Linux. It's just easier to use.
Because Chile != space
"Alien" != "someone from outer space".
Alien vs Lucifer
we need historians to get informations about an only 30 year old technology?
It's nothing new. From the introduction to Only Yesterday: An Informal History of the 1920's by historian Frederick Lewis Allen
The linked book (posted in full at the link) was required reading in an undergrad general studies history class I took in the late 1970s. It was published in 1933 and concerned the 1920s.
You're right, it didn't happen overnight, and Tandy and Commodore and others continued to sell relatively cheap computers for the home. I should have said it pretty much killed the CP/M machines that businesses had been using.
He got away with it because the regulators never investigated any of the red flags that should have clued them that something about his scheme was dodgy
So he was smarter than the regulators.
Well, yes, there were changes; the original keyblard plugs looked like they belonged on a Mac truck, the busses have chenged a couple of times, but I had an IMB XT I bought used, and simply kept upgrading it. Added a Hercules card for graphics, later a VGA card; added a sound card (not available at all from IBM), memory, joystick, none of which were IBM. At one point, the only original parts were the case, power supply, and keyboard; I'd changed out the motherboard for a 386 (probably was the world's fastest IBM XT if you could still call it one).
One of the reasons the PS2 never took off was because of its parts incompatibility.
No, they have a trademark on a Stratocaster. If you smoke pot on a mountain, it will get you more stoned than at sea level. The stratodoober is like smoking a doobie in the stratosphere. Although I have no more idea how one works than Gene Roddenberry knew how a warp drive worked.
What about Duffman, Barney Gumble, Krusty the Clown, Lurleen Lumpkin, Otto Mann, Captain Horatio McCallister... not to mention ME!
I would bet those folks don't live within staggering distance or within bus distance from those 5 bars.
There are few homes in town that don't have at least one bar within walking distance. Churches, too -- you can't throw a bible withot breaking a stained glass window.
The scene in the Simpsons move where the people in the church all run to the bar, while the people in the bar run next door to the church isn't far from reality in the 3D meatspece Springfield.