I know reactors these days are pretty fool proof, but so was Chernobyl. They had all the guide lines in place and it was safe as all hell if they were followed. The only thing they got wrong was they underestimated the possible negligence of the fools running it.
I disagree with the grandparent though on the electric cars and coal. It is far easier to make an effective solar or wind power station on the ground than in a car. So if you want them to be reliable and run off renewable energy, then batteries and power from the grid would be the go.
If you are suggesting that the bible is a comprehensive and ordered piece of literature with scientific reasoning i think you should look again...
It reads more like a book of historical accounts, especially the new testament. Which is basically what I was pointing out. It doesn't try to be a book of laws or concise. It gives the reader room to interpret. It doesn't ask conformism like the church, more suggests that any person in any situation or class or society can do something to better it. The fact such tedious and unproductive dogma has come from it is quite sad. You see churches somehow attempting to justify groups of people as unchristian or less worthy. In reality they just do most of the things that Jesus was pissed off about in the first place. He came to look to include all and see something in the worst of us. They decide to exclude. He told the church not to be greedy self righteous pricks, nothing's really changed. Most churches are all talk and no action. And most action is in the interest of serving the church, not the people. I'm not big on churches but i have a lot of respect for the guy they say they follow. Because he had a backbone and wasn't compromised by vanity. He wasn't some pragmatic wimp who requoted the same old shit and didn't know how to stand against the majority. And he didn't need to play little narcisistic games to make sure everyone was on his side and he was winning. As far as I can see, him and the church are near opposites.
Some would say the question doesn't matter unless you're a fundamentalist. The religion revolves around selflessness, and care and respect for other people. The question you ask is completely self serving. The whole save from sin stuff I would say generally is the result of a need for control or power in the church. Just a basic rewards scheme to make members feel important or compelled to agree with them. It isn't that much different to what people do in most parts of society. Just at some stage people assumed the people in charge of these things were somehow superhuman and always right. These days it might just be people repeating what the people before them have done oblivious to the reasons.
In terms having to be sent to connect with genesis, it's a black and white view. I would say the idea is essentially there because people like completeness. We aren't prepared to accept that maybe he was just there to do something in that time, rather than fulfil some mystically prophesies from before the time. The reality of it is that the old testament says these are the laws, do it this way, whereas the new testament is actually open. But try starting a religion and holding a church together with the concept that you can do what you like, just show some care for the people around you. What garbage would you have to argue and reread every sunday? How would you know people would stay and life wouldn't lead them where they wanted to go rather than to serving you? You wouldn't. Hence churches need to alter it a little to create a church.
A lot of stories in the bible were created to inspire people at the time also. It wasn't a world of sit infront of the PC and philosophy. More one where keeping the people in the right state of mind was crutial to survival as a leader, and survival against attackers. You don't compile a giant book to tell people the law either. If there were set laws and the answers were all clear, why not shrink it to a page or two so people could actually find them. It is food for thought to get people thinking. Just some people don't want to think and learn about all the aspects of the world and life, they want it fed to them as some great answer to everything. Therefore we have things like religion...and string theory:).
Capitalism is an economic system. Communism is a political system.
Communism is essentially a political and economic system. One of the things Communism normally focused on, being a socialist movement, was either overthrowing or 'reforming' the capitalist economic approach.
As for china, communism isn't really true communism these days in China.
North Korea and Iran have started producing WMD because they thought you were going to attack them as part of the axis of evil, and this has effectively have started an arms race. You guys fought some important wars. But the current ones are just the cause of unrest that will lead to more wars. There's no idealist perfect outcome like the one's your seeking. Only a bit of profit to be made on the side and an excuse to upgrade weapons and go on a fundamentalist crusade.
I always find it amusing that the Bush administration can talk about religious extremists. And that you guys can use communisms faults as an excuse for extreme capitalism. News for you, communism and capitalism both suck. They are extreme idealistic theories that never should've become anything more. Communism was taken up by some countries, so as a response people polarised the other way to capitalism. Same as the whole fundamentalist verus science debate at the moment. People get chalenged and move to the rabid extremes.
Not to point out the obvious, but patents are a very good source of knowledge of the worlds technology and previous findings. I know that is seen as an excuse to store them, but it's a pretty good one. Hopefully the whole patent idea gets reworked with some kind of ethics clause or something before doomsday anyway. Someone sensible will eventually get in government and realise the idiocy and unproductiveness of the current laws.
Wasn't the article we're discussing about a woman driving half way across the country to kill a fellow astronaut?
It's a matter of picking the right people for the mission, I'm sure there's terrible stories about men and women attacking eachother on these things. Obviously less about women because they have sent less all women missions.
And how dare you call slashdotters mysogynistic. I'm sure everyone agrees that women are important on the mission. You can't send a mission that is all men, they'll need someone to cook.
If I read it correctly this is one of the most standard, old and efficient means of energy storage. If you tried to patent it you would probably make a bit of a fool of yourself:). You'd probably have about as much chance of patenting the wheel, though with the way they give out patents these days there's always a chance.
On the subject of cold energy storage I thought they might be putting the batteries in the fridges to cool them and make them more efficient. But like most good things the simple ideas are usually the best. It's just use of power when it is most efficient to use it. ie. use the wind power off peak when the winds are so there isn't a need to store it. And lower the peak power. Obviously you could just use the coal power from the grid off peak when it's in low demand to do the same thing, but it doesn't sound as green.
The page says in short term they are most likely to be used for producing neutrons and protons for medical stuff. There are quite a few nice set ups apart from the tokamak. A lot are actually better designs in the long term. But most of them are a bit further off when it comes to actually producing power for commercial use.
I'm a big fan of Ubuntu and XUbuntu but I found again as I have with a lot of KDE based packages that the quality of KUbuntu is far lower. First up it occasionally doesn't boot from the installer cd and then the partition manager screwed up my system multiple times because it confused drives when it rescanned and formatted the wrong ones. I'm not sure what it is about the KDE community but that is the sort of area that should be flawless and solid, like with XUbuntu. They seem to make it pretty but not robust. Otherwise I'd be a massive KDE fan, because as a desktop it is quite attractive.
And the the article claims that a Frenchman named Alain Léger proposed the existence of such worlds in 2003. The movie came out in 1995. Could they really have taken that long to release it with french subtitles?
You may not have witnessed ball lightning. Many species of extra terrestrial life have been said to look like jellyfish. An alien encounter seems far more likely by my reasoning.
Yeh, coming from Aus and in science, I don't get how people can work without the metric system. It removes most of the conversion constants in equations.
You know if you just chuck together things of one SI quantity you get another one out of the equation. Like if you are ending up with energy (joules) just make sure you put things in the equation in Newtons and Seconds and Metres and Kilograms and whatever. And no constants. E will actually equal mc^2:). Not E(joules)=m(pounds)*c(feet/second^2)*0.3048*0.4535 or whatever unit America uses for energy. I suppose in a way they can claim superior intellect. Seeing all you need to do to prove E=mc^2 incorrect or incomplete is be American:).
Did I sum up reality too well, forget to use a pleasant euphemism for stupid or is slashdot overrun with people who believe the earth is 6000 years old and take things too seriously?
The other poster summed it up well. We don't really have that much choice here.
You can agree with them and promote it. You can disagree with them and get into pointless arguments that just give them more publicity and promote it. You can feel sorry for them and help give them more publicity and promote it. Or you can laugh it off and turn it into a joke(which it is) and keep some sense in the world.
Religion drives people to defend and try to justify the most illogical things. And to disagree isn't to bring sense to them but to stand against God. If nothing else we may as well get some amusement from them.
And for anyone who missed it this is science.slashdot.org not answersingenesis.slashdot.org, mod accordingly and get a sense of humour.
Many songs and television shows have also confirmed this. (Using the well established all words spoken by songwriters and actors are truth theory.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2%2B2%3D5#Television
What is there to argue. They are both backward and hazardous. It's like using an abacus when you have a calculator. And two countries that claim to be leading the world in science and a few other things still use them. I'm sure they'd get a lot less wrong if they used SI units.
As far as I can see the only reason they use them still is to stop people getting confused by the change over. Suppose thats the problem with having the 'right' to comfort. You end up not fixing stuff. You guys should've had everything listed in metres and litres years ago.
No. An event horizon, by definition, is a region from which nothing can ever escape. Not sure on this, wouldn't it probably depend at what angle it crosses and the sequence of events. ie. if a photon enters the event horizon at a shallow angle so it has not dropped below the event horizon by very much, then the event horizon is perturbed by a large mass passing close to the black hole, would the photon escape again? And if not, why not?
Their idea was storage using heat pumps so you can use the energy at night rather than use battery storage. It wasn't claiming a new form of power production.
As for production of energy if they wanted to not store it then ground/air temperature difference during the day would probably be similar to day/night air temperature difference.
I'm not in theoretical physics so don't know much on the topic, but there seems to be a lot of beating around in the dark so I'll ask.
Is there any chance that there's two classes of graviton? Like the electromagnetic force has attract opposite, repel like. Could the gravitational force which has some similarities to the electromagnetic force have attract like, repel opposite. Hence to a point perhaps keeping this opposite stuff away from really close contact with our stuff and maybe causing expansion and a few other effects.
And while I'm at it, is it possible stuff escapes black holes because passing matter causes small changes in the gravitational field hence shifting the event horizon and causing the photons that are orbiting near the event horizon to escape orbit.
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I know reactors these days are pretty fool proof, but so was Chernobyl. They had all the guide lines in place and it was safe as all hell if they were followed. The only thing they got wrong was they underestimated the possible negligence of the fools running it.
I disagree with the grandparent though on the electric cars and coal. It is far easier to make an effective solar or wind power station on the ground than in a car. So if you want them to be reliable and run off renewable energy, then batteries and power from the grid would be the go.
If you are suggesting that the bible is a comprehensive and ordered piece of literature with scientific reasoning i think you should look again...
It reads more like a book of historical accounts, especially the new testament. Which is basically what I was pointing out. It doesn't try to be a book of laws or concise. It gives the reader room to interpret. It doesn't ask conformism like the church, more suggests that any person in any situation or class or society can do something to better it. The fact such tedious and unproductive dogma has come from it is quite sad. You see churches somehow attempting to justify groups of people as unchristian or less worthy. In reality they just do most of the things that Jesus was pissed off about in the first place. He came to look to include all and see something in the worst of us. They decide to exclude. He told the church not to be greedy self righteous pricks, nothing's really changed. Most churches are all talk and no action. And most action is in the interest of serving the church, not the people. I'm not big on churches but i have a lot of respect for the guy they say they follow. Because he had a backbone and wasn't compromised by vanity. He wasn't some pragmatic wimp who requoted the same old shit and didn't know how to stand against the majority. And he didn't need to play little narcisistic games to make sure everyone was on his side and he was winning. As far as I can see, him and the church are near opposites.
That is one of the most classic posts I've seen. You got some help from the post before in getting to the idea. But still...it's brilliant!
Some would say the question doesn't matter unless you're a fundamentalist. The religion revolves around selflessness, and care and respect for other people. The question you ask is completely self serving. The whole save from sin stuff I would say generally is the result of a need for control or power in the church. Just a basic rewards scheme to make members feel important or compelled to agree with them. It isn't that much different to what people do in most parts of society. Just at some stage people assumed the people in charge of these things were somehow superhuman and always right. These days it might just be people repeating what the people before them have done oblivious to the reasons.
:).
In terms having to be sent to connect with genesis, it's a black and white view. I would say the idea is essentially there because people like completeness. We aren't prepared to accept that maybe he was just there to do something in that time, rather than fulfil some mystically prophesies from before the time. The reality of it is that the old testament says these are the laws, do it this way, whereas the new testament is actually open. But try starting a religion and holding a church together with the concept that you can do what you like, just show some care for the people around you. What garbage would you have to argue and reread every sunday? How would you know people would stay and life wouldn't lead them where they wanted to go rather than to serving you? You wouldn't. Hence churches need to alter it a little to create a church.
A lot of stories in the bible were created to inspire people at the time also. It wasn't a world of sit infront of the PC and philosophy. More one where keeping the people in the right state of mind was crutial to survival as a leader, and survival against attackers. You don't compile a giant book to tell people the law either. If there were set laws and the answers were all clear, why not shrink it to a page or two so people could actually find them. It is food for thought to get people thinking. Just some people don't want to think and learn about all the aspects of the world and life, they want it fed to them as some great answer to everything. Therefore we have things like religion...and string theory
Communism is essentially a political and economic system. One of the things Communism normally focused on, being a socialist movement, was either overthrowing or 'reforming' the capitalist economic approach.
As for china, communism isn't really true communism these days in China.
If so he must be right! Take that global warming!
North Korea and Iran have started producing WMD because they thought you were going to attack them as part of the axis of evil, and this has effectively have started an arms race. You guys fought some important wars. But the current ones are just the cause of unrest that will lead to more wars. There's no idealist perfect outcome like the one's your seeking. Only a bit of profit to be made on the side and an excuse to upgrade weapons and go on a fundamentalist crusade.
I always find it amusing that the Bush administration can talk about religious extremists. And that you guys can use communisms faults as an excuse for extreme capitalism. News for you, communism and capitalism both suck. They are extreme idealistic theories that never should've become anything more. Communism was taken up by some countries, so as a response people polarised the other way to capitalism. Same as the whole fundamentalist verus science debate at the moment. People get chalenged and move to the rabid extremes.
Not to point out the obvious, but patents are a very good source of knowledge of the worlds technology and previous findings. I know that is seen as an excuse to store them, but it's a pretty good one. Hopefully the whole patent idea gets reworked with some kind of ethics clause or something before doomsday anyway. Someone sensible will eventually get in government and realise the idiocy and unproductiveness of the current laws.
F*** the religious debate. I want to know who started a war over Santa Claus
Wasn't the article we're discussing about a woman driving half way across the country to kill a fellow astronaut?
It's a matter of picking the right people for the mission, I'm sure there's terrible stories about men and women attacking eachother on these things. Obviously less about women because they have sent less all women missions.
And how dare you call slashdotters mysogynistic. I'm sure everyone agrees that women are important on the mission. You can't send a mission that is all men, they'll need someone to cook.
If I read it correctly this is one of the most standard, old and efficient means of energy storage. If you tried to patent it you would probably make a bit of a fool of yourself :). You'd probably have about as much chance of patenting the wheel, though with the way they give out patents these days there's always a chance.
On the subject of cold energy storage I thought they might be putting the batteries in the fridges to cool them and make them more efficient. But like most good things the simple ideas are usually the best. It's just use of power when it is most efficient to use it. ie. use the wind power off peak when the winds are so there isn't a need to store it. And lower the peak power. Obviously you could just use the coal power from the grid off peak when it's in low demand to do the same thing, but it doesn't sound as green.
The page says in short term they are most likely to be used for producing neutrons and protons for medical stuff. There are quite a few nice set ups apart from the tokamak. A lot are actually better designs in the long term. But most of them are a bit further off when it comes to actually producing power for commercial use.
I'm a big fan of Ubuntu and XUbuntu but I found again as I have with a lot of KDE based packages that the quality of KUbuntu is far lower. First up it occasionally doesn't boot from the installer cd and then the partition manager screwed up my system multiple times because it confused drives when it rescanned and formatted the wrong ones. I'm not sure what it is about the KDE community but that is the sort of area that should be flawless and solid, like with XUbuntu. They seem to make it pretty but not robust. Otherwise I'd be a massive KDE fan, because as a desktop it is quite attractive.
And the the article claims that a Frenchman named Alain Léger proposed the existence of such worlds in 2003. The movie came out in 1995. Could they really have taken that long to release it with french subtitles?
You may not have witnessed ball lightning. Many species of extra terrestrial life have been said to look like jellyfish. An alien encounter seems far more likely by my reasoning.
Yeh, coming from Aus and in science, I don't get how people can work without the metric system. It removes most of the conversion constants in equations.
:). Not E(joules)=m(pounds)*c(feet/second^2)*0.3048*0.4535 or whatever unit America uses for energy. I suppose in a way they can claim superior intellect. Seeing all you need to do to prove E=mc^2 incorrect or incomplete is be American :).
You know if you just chuck together things of one SI quantity you get another one out of the equation. Like if you are ending up with energy (joules) just make sure you put things in the equation in Newtons and Seconds and Metres and Kilograms and whatever. And no constants. E will actually equal mc^2
Troll?
Did I sum up reality too well, forget to use a pleasant euphemism for stupid or is slashdot overrun with people who believe the earth is 6000 years old and take things too seriously?
The other poster summed it up well. We don't really have that much choice here.
You can agree with them and promote it. You can disagree with them and get into pointless arguments that just give them more publicity and promote it. You can feel sorry for them and help give them more publicity and promote it. Or you can laugh it off and turn it into a joke(which it is) and keep some sense in the world.
Religion drives people to defend and try to justify the most illogical things. And to disagree isn't to bring sense to them but to stand against God. If nothing else we may as well get some amusement from them.
And for anyone who missed it this is science.slashdot.org not answersingenesis.slashdot.org, mod accordingly and get a sense of humour.
I couldn't find anything to support this outrageous arguement or global warming. But I have found various sources that confirm that 2+2=5.
The biography of Winston Smith, including Smith's proof of the above.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four
Many songs and television shows have also confirmed this. (Using the well established all words spoken by songwriters and actors are truth theory.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2%2B2%3D5#Television
No, not really
Cool, that makes sense. Thanks for the replies.
Mod parent up a few.
What is there to argue. They are both backward and hazardous. It's like using an abacus when you have a calculator. And two countries that claim to be leading the world in science and a few other things still use them. I'm sure they'd get a lot less wrong if they used SI units.
As far as I can see the only reason they use them still is to stop people getting confused by the change over. Suppose thats the problem with having the 'right' to comfort. You end up not fixing stuff. You guys should've had everything listed in metres and litres years ago.
Their idea was storage using heat pumps so you can use the energy at night rather than use battery storage. It wasn't claiming a new form of power production.
As for production of energy if they wanted to not store it then ground/air temperature difference during the day would probably be similar to day/night air temperature difference.
I'm not in theoretical physics so don't know much on the topic, but there seems to be a lot of beating around in the dark so I'll ask.
Is there any chance that there's two classes of graviton? Like the electromagnetic force has attract opposite, repel like. Could the gravitational force which has some similarities to the electromagnetic force have attract like, repel opposite. Hence to a point perhaps keeping this opposite stuff away from really close contact with our stuff and maybe causing expansion and a few other effects.
And while I'm at it, is it possible stuff escapes black holes because passing matter causes small changes in the gravitational field hence shifting the event horizon and causing the photons that are orbiting near the event horizon to escape orbit.
I wonder how many repeat tests they did.