A lot of people seem to be very black-and-white when it comes to C++. Some love it and think it's the best language ever, some hate it and want it abolished. C++ has its place, the gaming industry knows it extremely well and there is absolutely nothing out there to compare to it (unless you count the mobile sector, but that's a different kettle of fish). I wouldn't use C++ for a lot of things, where other languages have been created to make certain types of development easier, but where you have any kind of gap or hole that doesn't have a "tailor-made" language, C++ is there and gives you the ability to do what you've set out to do.
I didn't know about this, that was quite a fascinating read. However, I did find the last line of the first article particularly amusing - "As for me, I think I'll look into getting a Nokia N900. It looks much more open, with the code mostly all upstream, and a much more active developer community.". Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
As someone who knows bugger all about Linux, can anyone confirm if that patch will have any kind of impact on Android Devices or is it the kind of thing only a desktop user will see a difference with?
OH I completely agree with that. In fact, my employer is still stuck in IE6 mode because half of the internal sites require us to use IE6. The annoying thing is that not a single one of them actually uses ActiveX and in fact all but one of them does work well enough in other browsers, my employer just doesn't let us use said browsers on them for the simple reason that they don't want to have to support another browser, from a user perspective. If the site goes wrong (and a lot of them do) and you weren't using IE6, they'll blame the browser. All of these sites are developed and maintained internally as well, so it's not like we're dependant on some 3rd party vendor. Amusingly, they rolled out IE8 across their entire site once a few weeks ago as part of a big security push and suddenly nothing worked, yet those of us who opted for Chrome or Firefox (Pale Moon in my case as these machines are quite slow) had better compatibility, but IT refused to switch everyone over and decided to just roll back to IE6...
I haven't been on a site that required ActiveX in years and even that was probably still only Windows update. Oh yeah, I do use windows occasionally, but I find that I spend most of my time using, of all things - Android. So I don't tend to use a cross-platform browser (unless you count Webkit as being the cross-platform "browser"). My originally point still stands - "if the browser is standards compliant" it wont matter what platforms it's available on. As you pointed out, ActiveX is not a web standard, so it's irrelevant to the discussion. The Reason IE6 (And IE in general) has caused so much grief is the sheer monopoly Microsoft once had. It was never just ActiveX, it was all sorts of stupid things the browser did that meant websites would be coded specifically for it, letting other browsers suffer in the process. The thing about ActiveX is that it cannot be "emulated" on other browsers, but then how many actually try to emulate the rest of IE's quirks anyway?
IE9 is beta (Release Candidate is still more "beta" than "final"), so you wished to use beta software by installing it in the first place. You could have just used IE8 and had no problems, then upgraded to IE9 when IE9 is ready.
Surely if you have "degradation" for those who use IE6, you'd want some sort of disclaimer to explain that it's their browser that sucks ass and not your web development skills? Like the way google does it, they effectively say "We don't test against your browser so the site might not work right". It's funny how the tides have turned from those dark ages when Websites REQUIRED IE and deliberately blocked all other browsers, yet now the shoe is on the other foot, people worry about merely putting up a banner to inform people to upgrade.
Why should the cross-platformness of the browser make a difference to how the site works? If the browser is standards compliant, it shouldn't matter if it's platform agnostic or not. IE9 isn't perfect, but it's about 1,000,000.315 times better than IE6.
Part of the "problem" with open source is that only us geek types give a damn about it. Average joe doesn't care about how "open" what he's buying is, which is why people continue to buy closed systems without a second thought.
Open.org could be the face of open platforms. Get a nice logo and some sort of catchy slogan "Approved by Open.org - your software, how you want it" or something. So when Microsoft releases a new "open" standard that isn't actually that open, open.org could be the ones fighting to make it as open as possible, supporting a truly open alternative, keeping things that are supposed to be open, but aren't, in check (I'm looking at you, Oracle) and generally educating the masses on why being open is "cool" and why they should care, as well as encouraging companies to open up their products more.
No, you idiot, that's obviously not how it works. If you find a bug in this, you cause the entire celestial system to collapse in on itself, killing us all!
...of a tale my dad used to tell me when I was young.
I don't know the full details, so it could be made up, the details could be wrong or it might have actually been like a TV show or something, but anyhoo.
A guy who worked in a factory would leave every day with a wheelbarrow full of rubbish. One of his bosses was sure he was stealing something, so every now and then he'd search the wheelbarrow and come up dry - rubbish, rubbish and more rubbish. The manager got so frustrated, he started searching every single day and still found nothing. Eventually, the guy figured out what he was stealing - wheelbarrows.
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Honestly, how likely do you think that is?
It had enough to meet the demands of the average 1936 television viewer.
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^ this
A lot of people seem to be very black-and-white when it comes to C++. Some love it and think it's the best language ever, some hate it and want it abolished. C++ has its place, the gaming industry knows it extremely well and there is absolutely nothing out there to compare to it (unless you count the mobile sector, but that's a different kettle of fish). I wouldn't use C++ for a lot of things, where other languages have been created to make certain types of development easier, but where you have any kind of gap or hole that doesn't have a "tailor-made" language, C++ is there and gives you the ability to do what you've set out to do.
One Word: Hosts.
Yes, even android has it.
I didn't know about this, that was quite a fascinating read. However, I did find the last line of the first article particularly amusing - "As for me, I think I'll look into getting a Nokia N900. It looks much more open, with the code mostly all upstream, and a much more active developer community.".
Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
aka "the wonder patch".
As someone who knows bugger all about Linux, can anyone confirm if that patch will have any kind of impact on Android Devices or is it the kind of thing only a desktop user will see a difference with?
I guess you could argue that Linux itself isn't an OS but rather Operating Systems are built using the Linux codebase.
I wouldn't, though.
Update Hardware? What is this you speak of?
Haven't you played Deus Ex? The password was probably left on the Bathroom floor, or behind a few stacked up boxes in the Gymnasium.
6?
OH I completely agree with that. In fact, my employer is still stuck in IE6 mode because half of the internal sites require us to use IE6. The annoying thing is that not a single one of them actually uses ActiveX and in fact all but one of them does work well enough in other browsers, my employer just doesn't let us use said browsers on them for the simple reason that they don't want to have to support another browser, from a user perspective.
If the site goes wrong (and a lot of them do) and you weren't using IE6, they'll blame the browser. All of these sites are developed and maintained internally as well, so it's not like we're dependant on some 3rd party vendor.
Amusingly, they rolled out IE8 across their entire site once a few weeks ago as part of a big security push and suddenly nothing worked, yet those of us who opted for Chrome or Firefox (Pale Moon in my case as these machines are quite slow) had better compatibility, but IT refused to switch everyone over and decided to just roll back to IE6...
"Beta" is Alpha, "RTM" is "Beta" and "SP1" is the real "RTM"?
I haven't been on a site that required ActiveX in years and even that was probably still only Windows update. Oh yeah, I do use windows occasionally, but I find that I spend most of my time using, of all things - Android. So I don't tend to use a cross-platform browser (unless you count Webkit as being the cross-platform "browser"). My originally point still stands - "if the browser is standards compliant" it wont matter what platforms it's available on. As you pointed out, ActiveX is not a web standard, so it's irrelevant to the discussion. The Reason IE6 (And IE in general) has caused so much grief is the sheer monopoly Microsoft once had. It was never just ActiveX, it was all sorts of stupid things the browser did that meant websites would be coded specifically for it, letting other browsers suffer in the process. The thing about ActiveX is that it cannot be "emulated" on other browsers, but then how many actually try to emulate the rest of IE's quirks anyway?
IE9 is beta (Release Candidate is still more "beta" than "final"), so you wished to use beta software by installing it in the first place. You could have just used IE8 and had no problems, then upgraded to IE9 when IE9 is ready.
Surely if you have "degradation" for those who use IE6, you'd want some sort of disclaimer to explain that it's their browser that sucks ass and not your web development skills? Like the way google does it, they effectively say "We don't test against your browser so the site might not work right".
It's funny how the tides have turned from those dark ages when Websites REQUIRED IE and deliberately blocked all other browsers, yet now the shoe is on the other foot, people worry about merely putting up a banner to inform people to upgrade.
Why should the cross-platformness of the browser make a difference to how the site works? If the browser is standards compliant, it shouldn't matter if it's platform agnostic or not. IE9 isn't perfect, but it's about 1,000,000.315 times better than IE6.
Part of the "problem" with open source is that only us geek types give a damn about it. Average joe doesn't care about how "open" what he's buying is, which is why people continue to buy closed systems without a second thought.
Open.org could be the face of open platforms. Get a nice logo and some sort of catchy slogan "Approved by Open.org - your software, how you want it" or something. So when Microsoft releases a new "open" standard that isn't actually that open, open.org could be the ones fighting to make it as open as possible, supporting a truly open alternative, keeping things that are supposed to be open, but aren't, in check (I'm looking at you, Oracle) and generally educating the masses on why being open is "cool" and why they should care, as well as encouraging companies to open up their products more.
He'd post about it on slashdot saying how great it is and everyone would listen.
The UK has 100Mbit in some parts of the country and 50Mbit in a good chunk of the rest of it.
No, you idiot, that's obviously not how it works. If you find a bug in this, you cause the entire celestial system to collapse in on itself, killing us all!
There is, it's called reading the actual article and not just the summary.
Well thank you for ruining a precious childhood memory of mine, you utter shit.
(Note: Sarcasm implied)
...of a tale my dad used to tell me when I was young.
I don't know the full details, so it could be made up, the details could be wrong or it might have actually been like a TV show or something, but anyhoo.
A guy who worked in a factory would leave every day with a wheelbarrow full of rubbish. One of his bosses was sure he was stealing something, so every now and then he'd search the wheelbarrow and come up dry - rubbish, rubbish and more rubbish. The manager got so frustrated, he started searching every single day and still found nothing.
Eventually, the guy figured out what he was stealing - wheelbarrows.