Yeah, sure, nothing tells us better about the effects of human activity on Earth than looking at something that human activity cannot affect high in the sky.
Yep. OK, enough with ID vs evolution, let's move on to the other battlefront of the science vs faith war. Climate change!
Global warming, schmobal schmwarming! Temperatures have gone done for the last 10 years (facts here [wikipedia.org]), so everything is just fine, it's just evil liberals who hate our benevolent oil companies because they're in the pocket of Big Ethanol. Discuss.
P.S. Not impressed with the implication that a "random slashdotter [slashdot.org]" has nothing new to add to a scientific discussion. If that is your attitude, you clearly have nothing to add. Since you're also wrong about the necessary implications of an experiment not producing the intended results, you're clearly talking from the wrong orifice. Or perhaps, typing with the wrong organ.
Kiss my ass. Someone not involved in the research who only knows superficially what's being dealt with talking about how the researchers performing the research and their peer-reviewed article got it wrong is the one who's talking out of his arse. That's what I hate about Slashdot and the American anti-expert climate of the last few decades in general, everyone thinks their opinion can have merit just because it seems remotely possible that an outsider who hasn't done any study in the field could put his finger on something fundamentally wrong. That's why everytime there's a story about science on Slashdot there's a half dozen armchair researchers who've gotta explain why it's all wrong.
I like to see string theory crumbling as much as the next man, but err.. that :
dark matter can be explained by the evolution of advanced technological civilizations based on *known* physics (through molecular nanotechnology and extreme engineering)
If given the choice between these two propositions, I think I'll stick with string theory and its 26+ space dimensions. But kudos to you for pioneering a new approach to astrophysics that consists in claiming "space aliens did it".
Wow, great insight, random Slashdotter! If only those physicists visited Slashdot more often they'd know what's wrong with their results and conclusions!
That's the wrong way to look at it, when you fail to detect something that SHOULD have been detected using what you used, that means that things just actually aren't quite as you expected them to be. Sure there still may be some be gravitational waves, but this proves that they're nothing like we thought/nowhere as strong, if they exist at all.
Yeah, it might take forever to go that far down, I mean even if you could stop dead from your 1 AU orbit it'd still take about two months to fall down to 0.1 AU, but well I guess it depends a lot on the sail. But yeah, that surely wouldn't be anywhere practical. Plus I wonder, doesn't solar wind/atmosphere "rotate" too? Probably follows the Sun's 25 day rotation to a certain degree?
No I'm not sure you get what I was proposing. The idea was to orient the sail so it offers virtually no cross section to the solar wind, and let the atmospheric drag do the job of slowing down its orbit so that it can descend.
Well, if it's a sail, maybe it can just slow itself down from an Earth-level Sun orbit until it gets lower, then flip 90Â to face the Sun and then get pushed away?
It's not that bad, back then I thought that the Gulf War was taking place in the Gulf of Morbihan (a small gulf near where I lived). Had me scared of taking the boat there.
You mean, every next generation doesn't know everything the previous generation knew? The shock!!
Meanwhile, in 1873: "Young whipper-snappers and their fancy transatlantic electrical telegraphs can't read optical telegraphs anymore! They don't even remember that Texas was a republic!! Oh, the humanity!"
At the same time, in 1937: "1873, you anachronistic puzzle-wits!!"
I think there's at least a 10-year delay between birth and awareness of international politics
Speak for yourself, when I was 4 I'd dream of Saddam Hussein. If you watch the news a lot with your parents, then even if you're 4 it just sinks in as part of your environment and knowledge.
Yeah, and what percentage of the population has certain types of mental disorders? That's something I really love about the anti-UFO arguments, people shooting down the whole thing just because 99% of reports are garbage.
How that was modded up blows my mind. If anyone had, like I have, read the first sentence of the linked article, they'd know that pareidolia is about seeing patterns in random stuff. When you see a glowing cigar shaped object flying in the sky at impossible speeds with impossible accelerations, that's not like seeing a face in a cloud or in a toast.
Yeah, it's probably a bit early for the market to support it, but if x86 processors don't catch up with the ARM in cost and low power consumption, give it a few years and the Chrome OS and you'll have yourself a pretty desirable desktop machine. Mostly when it comes to economies of scale, I mean, if you're going to buy 200 machines for your school/company these things can make a big difference, and in these settings you don't necessarily care about x86 compatibility provided you have all you need for the OS on the machine.
Or ARM desktops, I mean, why the fuck not? Make a tiny machine (think G4 Cube type box), powerful enough for most desktop stuff, with a low power consumption, and I'm sure you could get lots of people/businesses/schools interested.
Good way for them to buy/replace a whole bunch of desktop machines for cheap, that eat up less power/emit less heat and noise and don't take much room. The time has come for us to have dirt cheap tiny machines.
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Yeah, sure, nothing tells us better about the effects of human activity on Earth than looking at something that human activity cannot affect high in the sky.
The solution for the tecktonik problem is simple : nuke France.
Yep. OK, enough with ID vs evolution, let's move on to the other battlefront of the science vs faith war. Climate change!
Global warming, schmobal schmwarming! Temperatures have gone done for the last 10 years (facts here [wikipedia.org]), so everything is just fine, it's just evil liberals who hate our benevolent oil companies because they're in the pocket of Big Ethanol. Discuss.
That's a bit of a stretch, but alright.
P.S. Not impressed with the implication that a "random slashdotter [slashdot.org]" has nothing new to add to a scientific discussion. If that is your attitude, you clearly have nothing to add. Since you're also wrong about the necessary implications of an experiment not producing the intended results, you're clearly talking from the wrong orifice. Or perhaps, typing with the wrong organ.
Kiss my ass. Someone not involved in the research who only knows superficially what's being dealt with talking about how the researchers performing the research and their peer-reviewed article got it wrong is the one who's talking out of his arse. That's what I hate about Slashdot and the American anti-expert climate of the last few decades in general, everyone thinks their opinion can have merit just because it seems remotely possible that an outsider who hasn't done any study in the field could put his finger on something fundamentally wrong. That's why everytime there's a story about science on Slashdot there's a half dozen armchair researchers who've gotta explain why it's all wrong.
I like to see string theory crumbling as much as the next man, but err.. that :
dark matter can be explained by the evolution of advanced technological civilizations based on *known* physics (through molecular nanotechnology and extreme engineering)
If given the choice between these two propositions, I think I'll stick with string theory and its 26+ space dimensions. But kudos to you for pioneering a new approach to astrophysics that consists in claiming "space aliens did it".
Wow, great insight, random Slashdotter! If only those physicists visited Slashdot more often they'd know what's wrong with their results and conclusions!
That's the wrong way to look at it, when you fail to detect something that SHOULD have been detected using what you used, that means that things just actually aren't quite as you expected them to be. Sure there still may be some be gravitational waves, but this proves that they're nothing like we thought/nowhere as strong, if they exist at all.
This thread is now about ID vs Evolution, science vs faith. Thanks a lot for that!!
Yeah, it might take forever to go that far down, I mean even if you could stop dead from your 1 AU orbit it'd still take about two months to fall down to 0.1 AU, but well I guess it depends a lot on the sail. But yeah, that surely wouldn't be anywhere practical. Plus I wonder, doesn't solar wind/atmosphere "rotate" too? Probably follows the Sun's 25 day rotation to a certain degree?
No I'm not sure you get what I was proposing. The idea was to orient the sail so it offers virtually no cross section to the solar wind, and let the atmospheric drag do the job of slowing down its orbit so that it can descend.
So it's written in assembly, has a GUI and boots from a floppy? Yup, Apple did it (Mac OS was written in 68k assembly up to System 6)
And no offense but Mac OS 6 looks like it had a more sophisticated GUI than that, colour depth aside.
Well, if it's a sail, maybe it can just slow itself down from an Earth-level Sun orbit until it gets lower, then flip 90Â to face the Sun and then get pushed away?
It's not that bad, back then I thought that the Gulf War was taking place in the Gulf of Morbihan (a small gulf near where I lived). Had me scared of taking the boat there.
You mean, every next generation doesn't know everything the previous generation knew? The shock!!
Meanwhile, in 1873: "Young whipper-snappers and their fancy transatlantic electrical telegraphs can't read optical telegraphs anymore! They don't even remember that Texas was a republic!! Oh, the humanity!"
At the same time, in 1937: "1873, you anachronistic puzzle-wits!!"
I think there's at least a 10-year delay between birth and awareness of international politics
Speak for yourself, when I was 4 I'd dream of Saddam Hussein. If you watch the news a lot with your parents, then even if you're 4 it just sinks in as part of your environment and knowledge.
Not really, in that case I'd rather use the phrase "that guy's a moron" ;-).
How many crack addicts do you have in Denmark?
"I've had it with these motherfucking customers of this motherfucking company!"
Yeah, and what percentage of the population has certain types of mental disorders? That's something I really love about the anti-UFO arguments, people shooting down the whole thing just because 99% of reports are garbage.
How that was modded up blows my mind. If anyone had, like I have, read the first sentence of the linked article, they'd know that pareidolia is about seeing patterns in random stuff. When you see a glowing cigar shaped object flying in the sky at impossible speeds with impossible accelerations, that's not like seeing a face in a cloud or in a toast.
And for all practicality, when someone says "there talking", they mean "they're talking".
Yeah, it's probably a bit early for the market to support it, but if x86 processors don't catch up with the ARM in cost and low power consumption, give it a few years and the Chrome OS and you'll have yourself a pretty desirable desktop machine. Mostly when it comes to economies of scale, I mean, if you're going to buy 200 machines for your school/company these things can make a big difference, and in these settings you don't necessarily care about x86 compatibility provided you have all you need for the OS on the machine.
Or ARM desktops, I mean, why the fuck not? Make a tiny machine (think G4 Cube type box), powerful enough for most desktop stuff, with a low power consumption, and I'm sure you could get lots of people/businesses/schools interested.
Good way for them to buy/replace a whole bunch of desktop machines for cheap, that eat up less power/emit less heat and noise and don't take much room. The time has come for us to have dirt cheap tiny machines.