"It is arrogant to assume there isn't life outside our planet." --Carl Sagan
A belief is a belief is a belief. Sagan admitted, he no empirical evidence of this, but, only believed. If there is not any other life in the universe other than on earth (and I hope there is), then Carl's belief in ET is as nutty as any other.
That is still a how, like Natural Selection. That is still not why. Why is green more likely to reproduce or have more surviving offspring? Then once you answer that question, I'll ask why to that. Eventually we'll keep going until you say "I don't know".
OK, let's try it your way.
- Why is the grass green? - Because God created it this way. - Why did he create it this way? - Because that was His will. - Why was it his will?...
secretcurse> Well, if the child is being murdered and the parent has the means and ability to intervene, then yes. They certainly should always intervene. There's a huge difference between letting Junior touch the hot stove after you've warned him and not trying to help him if he's being murdered.
TemporalBeing> If a parent always intervened in every fight/etc on behalf of the child, how then would the child learn to defend themselves? How then would the child be able to defend their children?
Please explain to me, wise TemporalBeing, how would a murdered (i.e., dead) child can have his or her own children, let alone learn to defend them?
But let us not bother ourselves with trifles. Even if it just so happens that your hypothetical child here is only MOSTLY dead (that is, slightly alive) and will grow up being able to defend his or her own children, according to your logic this ability should never be exercised, lest those future children be deprived of it.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
In your experience does it work well (crashing etc?)?
Last time I worked with it was in 2002.
I'm somehow inclined to believe the complaints:). I'm also having difficulty finding the mythical more up to date version (that's mentioned in that thread) of Hydravision on AMD which works with more apps
Select your driver here, then click on the "optional downloads" tab. Supposedly it will give you the current version.
Nview has been around since 2002 or so, so I guess they've had time to figure stuff out:).
HydraVision was originally developed in late 90s by Appian Graphics and bought by ATI in July 2001 along with the development team (2 or 3 people, as I recall). I joined in September and left some 10 months later after figuring out that it was a dead end for me. By that time one of the developers was let go and a short time later, the team lead (who actually knew the code) passed away. I can tell you that the source was quite a mess and I felt that a fair bit of it should have been rewritten. Of course I did not get to do that although I did fix several bugs. That said, it was nine years ago so a lot may have changed since then.
He refused to acknowledge his daughter, who his mother initially had to raise on welfare payments.
Quote: When Jobs had his own illegitimate child, also at the age of 23, he too struggled with his responsibilities. For two years, though already wealthy, he denied paternity while Lisa's mother went on welfare. At one point Jobs even swore in a signed court document that he couldn't be Lisa's father because he was "sterile and infertile, and as a result thereof, did not have the physical capacity to procreate a child." He later acknowledged paternity of Lisa, married Laurene Powell, a Stanford MBA, and fathered three more children.
He may have been a great CEO for Apple but he's also a cold blooded jerk.
> Changing the default behavior is always bad. Always. If that were true then you'd turn on the computer and get "C:\>" (or "$" as appropriate).
On my WinXP machine, the "C:\>" prompt (or the equivalent) is just one click away. While it not visible by default, it is still there for when I need it.
Some extensions I installed use the status bar to display, you guessed it, their status. Could anyone inform me how the hell would that work if the bar is gone???
To elaborate:
Almost every application that I use, displays status indicators on its status-bar. That's what it is for. Now, if I switch to FF4, I will have a single application whose UI is incompatible with the rest of the system.
I am used to look at the bottom of the app's window for this information. Whether I use office applications, IDEs, editors... Hell, almost anything that I use regularly. That's the point of having standard UI conventions - everything seems familiar and "natural" and you don't have to fight your learned habits every time you switch app windows.
> 2) It's impossible to get in the new version. Which is fine, because the only thing it was ever useful for is seeing where links lead, and that job has been taken over by something else.
It was very useful to me. Here's an example of my statusbar at work. At home, I have more indicators on it.
> Which of those options makes any sense to you...? (2), since it gets rid of a largely useless UI element and streamlines the interface.
The fact that you fail to use it to its full potential does not mean it is useless.
Next question?
Were you born a dick or did you have to work at it?
Strange, the memory use of my Firefox 3.6.13 is stable at ~200MB. If yours is leaking, it's quite likely some difference between my FF and yours, say an extension you have installed that I don't.
Most people install extensions because they want (or need) to use them. At least I do. The only reason I use FF and not Chrome or Opera is because it has the add-ons that make my online life easier.
Unfortunately, there is no tool to tell me what extension, add-on or tab is responsible for the memory leak(s).
It is true that my anecdotal "evidence" for "no memory problem" is not worth much but this issue was addressed literally years ago and has been tested rigorously. It is truly an old meme that should be put to rest.
This "old meme" still causes me to restart FF at least daily, lest it completely freeze after claiming 1.5GB.
Are the memory gobbling instabilities of Firefox fixed in version 4? I have 12 tabs open in 5 windows now in Firefox 3.6.13, and Process Explorer tells me that Firefox is slowly demanding more and more memory, even when I am only watching Process Explorer, and nothing is happening in Firefox.
Eventually, the memory gobbling of Firefox reaches a limit, and Windows XP SP3 becomes very unstable.
I've filed bug several reports about that particular instability of Firefox over about 9 years, but the problem has not been fixed.
Those of use who need to do research on the internet often have many windows and tabs open. That makes the instability in Firefox much worse.
Same thing here. FF eats more and more memory until it reaches about 1.5GB and then locks hard. Interestingly, if I close FF when it's at about 1.3GB and still usable (but very sluggish), it will take it several minutes to shut down properly, presumably taking all that time to free the memory.
I noticed that using Google Image Search makes the problem worse (i.e., FF leaks memory faster).
There is no evil when there is no violence attempted.
Let's conduct a thought experiment: Assume there's a person that figured out an effective treatment for, say, Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease but refuses to share his findings. No violence attempted. Is he evil?
Now assume that your daughter is diagnosed with the disease. Does your answer change?
I saw a road sign in Canada telling me to expect retards. Well, actually, it said expect delays on the left and the French equivalent on the right, but I chose to take this message away from the encounter.
Oh, that would be the French Canadians. You know, the same people who refer to a swimming pool as a "piss-in".
Why don't we start with his own admission of people getting killed in Kenya because of his actions?
Well, let's look at the page you linked to:
The leak exposed massive corruption by Daniel Arap Moi, and the Kenyan people sat up and took notice. In the ensuing elections, in which corruption became a major issue, violence swept the country.
Basically, Wikileaks exposes corruption, the people riot, some get killed. Only a complete moron would blame Assange for their deaths.
I'm claiming my quote is evidence that WinMTR is a derivative work of MTR, so that the GPL applies to force WinMTR to be open source. It doesn't just "look like"; those lines are verbatim in both sources, and it's clear that one was derived from the other from the rest of the source quoted in my citation.
The only thing that is clear is that this particular code sequence appears in both projects. What is still unclear is whether: - WinMTR copied the code from MTR, or - MTR copied the code from WinMTR, or - WinMTR licensed the code from MTR under a non-GPL license (GPL tolerates dual licensing), or - the code was taken from a third project with a more permissive license (say, BSD or public domain).
While I agree that the most probable scenario is the one you allege, it is by no means the only one possible.
However, it is obvious that there is code in WinMTR taken directly or derived from MTR proper.
Since both projects were GPL at some time, it is possible that cross-pollination has occurred. However, to substantiate your claim, it should be demonstrated that: (a) the code snippet from MTR predates the one in WinMTR, and (b) the code snippet was not available at the time in another, more permissive, project (think BSD, etc.)
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Note that Sagan said "arrogant", not "wrong".
OK, let's try it your way.
- Why is the grass green? ...
- Because God created it this way.
- Why did he create it this way?
- Because that was His will.
- Why was it his will?
I fail to see the advantage.
secretcurse> Well, if the child is being murdered and the parent has the means and ability to intervene, then yes. They certainly should always intervene. There's a huge difference between letting Junior touch the hot stove after you've warned him and not trying to help him if he's being murdered.
TemporalBeing> If a parent always intervened in every fight/etc on behalf of the child, how then would the child learn to defend themselves? How then would the child be able to defend their children?
Please explain to me, wise TemporalBeing, how would a murdered (i.e., dead) child can have his or her own children, let alone learn to defend them?
But let us not bother ourselves with trifles. Even if it just so happens that your hypothetical child here is only MOSTLY dead (that is, slightly alive) and will grow up being able to defend his or her own children, according to your logic this ability should never be exercised, lest those future children be deprived of it.
Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
Last time I worked with it was in 2002.
Select your driver here, then click on the "optional downloads" tab. Supposedly it will give you the current version.
HydraVision was originally developed in late 90s by Appian Graphics and bought by ATI in July 2001 along with the development team (2 or 3 people, as I recall). I joined in September and left some 10 months later after figuring out that it was a dead end for me. By that time one of the developers was let go and a short time later, the team lead (who actually knew the code) passed away. I can tell you that the source was quite a mess and I felt that a fair bit of it should have been rewritten. Of course I did not get to do that although I did fix several bugs. That said, it was nine years ago so a lot may have changed since then.
Quote:
When Jobs had his own illegitimate child, also at the age of 23, he too struggled with his responsibilities. For two years, though already wealthy, he denied paternity while Lisa's mother went on welfare. At one point Jobs even swore in a signed court document that he couldn't be Lisa's father because he was "sterile and infertile, and as a result thereof, did not have the physical capacity to procreate a child." He later acknowledged paternity of Lisa, married Laurene Powell, a Stanford MBA, and fathered three more children.
He may have been a great CEO for Apple but he's also a cold blooded jerk.
I believe it does.
ATI (AMD now) calls this stuff HydraVision.
It may be a separate download though, search for it on the AMD site.
You're all amateurs!
On my WinXP machine, the "C:\>" prompt (or the equivalent) is just one click away. While it not visible by default, it is still there for when I need it.
To elaborate:
Almost every application that I use, displays status indicators on its status-bar. That's what it is for.
Now, if I switch to FF4, I will have a single application whose UI is incompatible with the rest of the system.
I am used to look at the bottom of the app's window for this information. Whether I use office applications, IDEs, editors... Hell, almost anything that I use regularly. That's the point of having standard UI conventions - everything seems familiar and "natural" and you don't have to fight your learned habits every time you switch app windows.
FF4 failed in this respect.
It was very useful to me.
Here's an example of my statusbar at work. At home, I have more indicators on it.
The fact that you fail to use it to its full potential does not mean it is useless.
Were you born a dick or did you have to work at it?
No, you do not. Otherwise you'd make it optional.
And since it was a mistake that you are now aware of, your good intentions dictate that you would fix it, right?
Show me the survey where those millions of people indicated that the status-bar should be permanently removed.
Little tyrants always justify their pet decisions as being "for the greater good".
Most people install extensions because they want (or need) to use them. At least I do. The only reason I use FF and not Chrome or Opera is because it has the add-ons that make my online life easier.
Unfortunately, there is no tool to tell me what extension, add-on or tab is responsible for the memory leak(s).
This "old meme" still causes me to restart FF at least daily, lest it completely freeze after claiming 1.5GB.
Same thing here. FF eats more and more memory until it reaches about 1.5GB and then locks hard.
Interestingly, if I close FF when it's at about 1.3GB and still usable (but very sluggish), it will take it several minutes to shut down properly, presumably taking all that time to free the memory.
I noticed that using Google Image Search makes the problem worse (i.e., FF leaks memory faster).
Well, sort of. Searching on google.com finds current slashdot comments but searching on google.ca does not.
They're not. They're too big to listen.
Let's conduct a thought experiment:
Assume there's a person that figured out an effective treatment for, say, Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease but refuses to share his findings.
No violence attempted.
Is he evil?
Now assume that your daughter is diagnosed with the disease.
Does your answer change?
Oh, that would be the French Canadians.
You know, the same people who refer to a swimming pool as a "piss-in".
Well, let's look at the page you linked to:
The leak exposed massive corruption by Daniel Arap Moi, and the Kenyan people sat up and took notice. In the ensuing elections, in which corruption became a major issue, violence swept the country.
Basically, Wikileaks exposes corruption, the people riot, some get killed.
Only a complete moron would blame Assange for their deaths.
You ate steak at restaurant X and it made you ill.
Do you go to restaurant X again?
Being open to challenges is admitting the possibility of being wrong.
The only thing that is clear is that this particular code sequence appears in both projects. What is still unclear is whether:
- WinMTR copied the code from MTR, or
- MTR copied the code from WinMTR, or
- WinMTR licensed the code from MTR under a non-GPL license (GPL tolerates dual licensing), or
- the code was taken from a third project with a more permissive license (say, BSD or public domain).
While I agree that the most probable scenario is the one you allege, it is by no means the only one possible.
Since both projects were GPL at some time, it is possible that cross-pollination has occurred. However, to substantiate your claim, it should be demonstrated that:
(a) the code snippet from MTR predates the one in WinMTR, and
(b) the code snippet was not available at the time in another, more permissive, project (think BSD, etc.)
The post you lined to says: "the conversation would probably go like this". Hypothetical example. Chill.