what strikes me most with this discussion is the number of nuclear fanboys here on slashdot. Come on, nuclear power is a vision from the 60s. Last century. Are slashdotters really so old to think that the future lies in a vision from 50 years ago?
well some of the mistakes definitely are programming mistakes. If the requirement states 'take input from field A and store it in table C' then it is a programming mistake not to use a prepared statement but to dynamically build a statement.
On the other hand, the promotion of frameworks may make the software over-engineered and the architecture more complicated than necessary. That again can cause many problems...
So true. If I remember correctly, Uganda has about 40 different kinds of banana. Not all of them are for eating, but still the variety is pretty big. Except for those which are for cooking, most bananas aren't as big as we are used to get them, but certainly more tasty.
that proves the point in tfa. It's just vice versa. However, I've seen a number of highly skilled programmers stumble over their lack of social skills.
absolutely. I think Microsoft currently has three main advantages: First of all, people know it. At least they think - with every new Version of MSOffice there's quite a bit of leaning to do. Still, "Word" has become a synonyme for textprocessor. Second, expecially in business-environments, there's a heavy tool-support for MSOffice. Large portions of business-software have integrated it in their solutions and/or know how to work with that file-format. Third, it's the big company that makes it and it is from the same vendor as the operating system. People just expect it to be bleeding edge and well integrated, thus expect no problems when using it.
> I think IBM are absolutely right when they say that the customers prefer to > have documented open standards which can be supported by a variety of different > applications from different vendors.
This is the one point of your comment on which I don't agree. Users first of all don't want to care about document-format. "What's your operating-system?" -- "Word". Never happened to you? Users need a Text-Processor, and -- if business-user -- they need supporting tools. Having said that, my conclusion is that users need a single open, documented and well supported file-format: odf. They need id _because_ they don't want to care about it.
For real. What's wrong with keeping addresses in a spreadsheet? Well, nothing much -- as long as you don't have many friends. Even most address-databases suck, however, if it comes to people having several addresses including phones, mobile phones etc. Or if you want a convenient way of writing letters, stuff like that.
While I find it amazing for how many purposes you can (mis-)use spreadsheeds, having spreadsheets mailed to me with information not including any calculating ruins my day. It's pseudo-structured information. Reminds me of the mails I get when people send me an 'oh-so-funny' picture -- in a msword document.
Couldn't agree more! I just had to work with a software that claimed English(GB) localization but used american date-format. We're still early in the year, so quite a lot of entries went wrong. Personally, I'm used to iso-date meanwhile.
>Nobody would say "Japanese" or "Korean" wasn't a racial group. It's really no different.
Well, I would. But that may be because I'm german.
Actually, in german news the message read more like 'The code was cracked by a hobby-radio operator* using... programmed in Ada. The guy was from Bonn.' Why do you guys make such a topic of that man being a german?
Walking definitely is largely an automatic process. Just go to town: Most people walk around mindless. Maybe chewing alone is already confusing enough to them to interrupt even the automatic processes. Something like 'kernel panic'.
then you're a good candidate to use an object-database. However, I don't know yet how well they scale. Apart from that, managing concurrent transaction might be a pain. I'm playing with db4o in my next project. Interesting database, but I will restrict it to single-user mode.
When I mentioned 1.5 or 2.5 liters, I was referring to to petrol-consumption per 100km, not to engine size. In fact, the car does have a smart concept, reducing its weight enormously to only 450kg. The engines have only 15 kW for the smaller, 36 kW for the bigger variant. Making a fast car that energy-efficient is what I call a smart car. Relation to OP? The driver of a SUV may be as smart as he wants, he will never drive as energy-efficient as any driver of such a smart car.
I don't need to drive that fast (my usual speed on the Autobahn is 140 km/h) but yes, it is legal to drive 220 here. I live in Germany, just in case you didn't guess it yet. Driving 140 on the Autobahn means that you have to carefully monitor your mirror, unless you drive on the rightmost lane.
smart cars do make a difference. It's just that this car isn't particularly smart when it comes to petrol-consumption. 2009 a rather different car is coming to market: the loremo those who want to see some pictures or even read german, see www.loremo.com two available engines: the smaller one reaches a maximum speed of 160 km/h with 1.5 liters, the bigger one reaches 220km/h with 2.5 liters (0-100km/h in less than 9 seconds) Price: 11.000 or 15.000 Euro I'm really looking forward to that one.
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what strikes me most with this discussion is the number of nuclear fanboys here on slashdot. Come on, nuclear power is a vision from the 60s. Last century. Are slashdotters really so old to think that the future lies in a vision from 50 years ago?
well some of the mistakes definitely are programming mistakes. If the requirement states 'take input from field A and store it in table C' then it is a programming mistake not to use a prepared statement but to dynamically build a statement. On the other hand, the promotion of frameworks may make the software over-engineered and the architecture more complicated than necessary. That again can cause many problems...
See, that's the problem with the 'koma-drinking' teenagers. They drink before they have benn trained to drink! no drining-licence.
Yah, but... Sisyphus rocks!
how can it be li-jahiluna? should it not be li-jahilîna?
It can be -- if it is a quote from a swahili-poem, transliterated to simple encoding.
what I miss most is any sort of 'advanced' search, like the restriction on TLDs etc.
Ack. Just what one would expect from an article in which Europe is called a country.
So true. If I remember correctly, Uganda has about 40 different kinds of banana. Not all of them are for eating, but still the variety is pretty big. Except for those which are for cooking, most bananas aren't as big as we are used to get them, but certainly more tasty.
that proves the point in tfa. It's just vice versa. However, I've seen a number of highly skilled programmers stumble over their lack of social skills.
absolutely. I think Microsoft currently has three main advantages:
First of all, people know it. At least they think - with every new Version of MSOffice there's quite a bit of leaning to do. Still, "Word" has become a synonyme for textprocessor.
Second, expecially in business-environments, there's a heavy tool-support for MSOffice. Large portions of business-software have integrated it in their solutions and/or know how to work with that file-format.
Third, it's the big company that makes it and it is from the same vendor as the operating system. People just expect it to be bleeding edge and well integrated, thus expect no problems when using it.
> I think IBM are absolutely right when they say that the customers prefer to
> have documented open standards which can be supported by a variety of different
> applications from different vendors.
This is the one point of your comment on which I don't agree. Users first of all don't want to care about document-format. "What's your operating-system?" -- "Word". Never happened to you? Users need a Text-Processor, and -- if business-user -- they need supporting tools.
Having said that, my conclusion is that users need a single open, documented and well supported file-format: odf. They need id _because_ they don't want to care about it.
While I find it amazing for how many purposes you can (mis-)use spreadsheeds, having spreadsheets mailed to me with information not including any calculating ruins my day. It's pseudo-structured information. Reminds me of the mails I get when people send me an 'oh-so-funny' picture -- in a msword document.
Couldn't agree more!
I just had to work with a software that claimed English(GB) localization but used american date-format. We're still early in the year, so quite a lot of entries went wrong. Personally, I'm used to iso-date meanwhile.
Thanks, that's what I was looking for.
>Nobody would say "Japanese" or "Korean" wasn't a racial group. It's really no different.
Well, I would. But that may be because I'm german.
Actually, in german news the message read more like 'The code was cracked by a hobby-radio operator* using... programmed in Ada. The guy was from Bonn.'
Why do you guys make such a topic of that man being a german?
*no idea how to translate 'Hobbyfunker'
that would predict a bright future for .odf here in Europe.
Walking definitely is largely an automatic process. Just go to town: Most people walk around mindless. Maybe chewing alone is already confusing enough to them to interrupt even the automatic processes. Something like 'kernel panic'.
then you're a good candidate to use an object-database. However, I don't know yet how well they scale. Apart from that, managing concurrent transaction might be a pain. I'm playing with db4o in my next project. Interesting database, but I will restrict it to single-user mode.
What's wrong with GregorianCalendar?
When I mentioned 1.5 or 2.5 liters, I was referring to to petrol-consumption per 100km, not to engine size. In fact, the car does have a smart concept, reducing its weight enormously to only 450kg. The engines have only 15 kW for the smaller, 36 kW for the bigger variant.
Making a fast car that energy-efficient is what I call a smart car.
Relation to OP? The driver of a SUV may be as smart as he wants, he will never drive as energy-efficient as any driver of such a smart car.
I don't need to drive that fast (my usual speed on the Autobahn is 140 km/h) but yes, it is legal to drive 220 here. I live in Germany, just in case you didn't guess it yet. Driving 140 on the Autobahn means that you have to carefully monitor your mirror, unless you drive on the rightmost lane.
smart cars do make a difference. It's just that this car isn't particularly smart when it comes to petrol-consumption.
2009 a rather different car is coming to market: the loremo
those who want to see some pictures or even read german, see www.loremo.com
two available engines:
the smaller one reaches a maximum speed of 160 km/h with 1.5 liters, the bigger one reaches 220km/h with 2.5 liters (0-100km/h in less than 9 seconds)
Price: 11.000 or 15.000 Euro
I'm really looking forward to that one.
According to Wikipedia(.de):
Imperial Gallon: 4,5460902819948 Liter
U.S. Gallon: 3,785411784 Liter
Metric Gallon: 4 liter
ok, the thread is old, so nobody will care, but I just had to look it up.
another point where using 'liter' makes sense, isn't it?
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