I'm not fan of social networking but I realize that they are just tools for communication. By their logic, everyone that has forwarded communication technologies (e.g. telephones and internet) has also enabled them. Social networking isn't a weapon, it cannot hurt people. Perhaps they should go after the people who do sell things that are used exclusively to hurt people.
Consider a situation where you must choose between saving the life of a sweet innocent baby and a crusty old college professor who is leading the research on a cancer cure. How do you value these lives? Which would you save?
* If you are driven purely by emotion then you save the baby. * If you want to save the most lives then you save the professor. * If you are worried the rapid rise in the global population depleting our resources then you allow both to die because the professor could extend the lives of many people who would otherwise die and the baby is just one more person taking up resources. * If you are trapped somewhere and only wish to survive then the professor and you eat the baby and then fight to the death when you have run out of food and are starving.
There are many things to be considered and sometimes you must be cold and calculating in order to ensure the future.
Who said the data is the result of piracy? Who said that the data is available via piracy?
I wasn't saying the data was the result of piracy, just if you need a higher quality version that piracy is a possible solution. There will always be cases where people are unprepared for the future, you just have to let those people learn from their mistakes.
However, if the only version that exists is in MP3 format, then you have made a grave mistake
Describe in great detail. What is the grave mistake of archiving something in an audibly perfect format
A) Archiving implies that there is another source. I'm talking about making an MP3 and destroying the original audio file. B) The mistake made was not archiving the audio data in a lossless format and making a lossy version for everyday use.
The Internet of Shit has been known to be insecure for a long time. Now there are people bricking these shitty devices which I do not object to because it's only possible due to neglect by the device maker.
You're making lots of assumptions on the state or the existence of the source media.
Not really. I said the alternative was to pirate a higher quality version. However, if the only version that exists is in MP3 format, then you have made a grave mistake.
People need to stop using Java for everything, not because of personal preference but because of Oracle's incessant bullshit. Honestly, if OpenJDK hadn't originated from SUN then Java programmers would shit out of luck as Oracle would have had to crush them just to get to Google.
Stop supporting Oracle's eternal war and move to different languages!
The way our email protocols were created show a total lack of consideration for this type of bad behavior. If it happened on Arpanet, it should have been fixed by the time it became Darpanet. This shows a real lack of foresight in the creation of SMTP (in 1982).
I see no need for anyone to add MP3 support to any Linux distro because while MP3 was good for the time, it's basically noisy garbage now that there has been significant competition and three orders of magnitude improvement on both storage capacity and network bandwidth. However, what this does mean is that any part of MP3 that was somehow better can now be incorporated into other codecs, so it's not a total loss... just 96kbps lossy.;)
Thank you for the kind permission, but they aren't party to this discussion. You made the claim, you have to substantiate it. And you, obviously, can not.
My claim is equally as valid as the the claim that the documents are legitimate because neither has been proven. However, if you feel compelled to "win" this debate then mission accomplished because neither side can prove their authenticity or lack thereof.
The rest of your drivel is irrelevant. Congratulations on winning.
"The En Marche! Movement has been the victim of a massive and co-ordinated hack this evening which has given rise to the diffusion on social media of various internal information," the statement said. In its statement on Friday, En Marche! said that the documents released online only showed the normal functioning of a presidential campaign, but that authentic documents had been mixed on social media with fake ones to sow "doubt and misinformation."
Feel free to demand proof from The En Marche! Movement.
For all we know, there may be a 1000 genuine copies of real documents and 1 slightly altered
That would mean there are 1000 genuine documents and one false document. Anything taken from the this dump should be assumed to be that one false document until proven genuine.
It should be. It may even already be. But humans aren't perfect
I don't seek perfection, I only seek better than the present condition.
the statement: "he killed his wife and her lover" is false according to the "reasonable doubt" standard (used by criminal courts), but true on the preponderance of evidence (used in the civil suits)... So much for the "truth is absolute"..
Incorrect. Either he killed his wife and her lover or he did not. What is decided by a court does not change that reality.
It need not be you that made the claim but the claim was made that these documents were taken from Emmanuel Macron's campaign. If no claim is made then they are considered to be original pieces of work meaning they are not from Emmanuel Macron's campaign. The former requires a burden of proof while the latter is assumed.
Well, let's see... Is the sky blue?
I was specifically referring to document authenticity. They are either authentic or they are not. Why do you keep bring up Hillary Clinton?
Everyone should be held to this standard.
Which omni-scient and benevolent deity would be doing the holding?
Accountability need no single overlord. It should be part of our culture.
If it's truly a matter of battery-life or recording capacity then there is a technological update that needs to be made. Purpose built hardware like this should be able to record 24 hours of video without interruption.
It seems like Apple products have been moving from useful products more toward just being status symbols. Seriously, the Apple Watches provide you with near zero useful functionality and have really shitty battery-life.
Accuracy is always good, but a lot of it is subjective.
No, it's either a genuine stolen document or it's a false document designed to mislead. There is no middle ground.
And, besides, when Hillary's e-mails were posted, no one protested the content. People were outraged over "Putin" meddling in the US elections, but I don't recall anyone calling any particular e-mail a fake...
The truth was damming enough.
Besides, politicians — and their fans — lie and exaggerate all the time, it is par of the course. Why should the requirements and the expectations be higher for leaked info?
Exaggerations are just another form of lying. Either information is true or it is false. Everyone should be held to this standard.
The problem here is that misinformation has been mixed in with the information
Has it been? Citations?
The burden of proof comes on the original claim that they are genuine.
How is Democracy at risk over this? Does not "information want to be free"? Is not it good that voters know more about the candidate, than less?
It's good if the information is accurate. The problem here is that misinformation has been mixed in with the information. When people are misinformed, they make poor choices.
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I'm not fan of social networking but I realize that they are just tools for communication. By their logic, everyone that has forwarded communication technologies (e.g. telephones and internet) has also enabled them. Social networking isn't a weapon, it cannot hurt people. Perhaps they should go after the people who do sell things that are used exclusively to hurt people.
Consider a situation where you must choose between saving the life of a sweet innocent baby and a crusty old college professor who is leading the research on a cancer cure. How do you value these lives? Which would you save?
* If you are driven purely by emotion then you save the baby.
* If you want to save the most lives then you save the professor.
* If you are worried the rapid rise in the global population depleting our resources then you allow both to die because the professor could extend the lives of many people who would otherwise die and the baby is just one more person taking up resources.
* If you are trapped somewhere and only wish to survive then the professor and you eat the baby and then fight to the death when you have run out of food and are starving.
There are many things to be considered and sometimes you must be cold and calculating in order to ensure the future.
pirate a higher quality version
Who said the data is the result of piracy? Who said that the data is available via piracy?
I wasn't saying the data was the result of piracy, just if you need a higher quality version that piracy is a possible solution. There will always be cases where people are unprepared for the future, you just have to let those people learn from their mistakes.
However, if the only version that exists is in MP3 format, then you have made a grave mistake
Describe in great detail. What is the grave mistake of archiving something in an audibly perfect format
A) Archiving implies that there is another source. I'm talking about making an MP3 and destroying the original audio file.
B) The mistake made was not archiving the audio data in a lossless format and making a lossy version for everyday use.
Well it's been growing for the past 7 years. When does the growth phase end?
The Internet of Shit has been known to be insecure for a long time. Now there are people bricking these shitty devices which I do not object to because it's only possible due to neglect by the device maker.
Systemd's issues are only getting worse with time.
The scales on this chart for the secondary vertical axis makes it unreadable.
don't blame me, blame the people who made it.
You're making lots of assumptions on the state or the existence of the source media.
Not really. I said the alternative was to pirate a higher quality version. However, if the only version that exists is in MP3 format, then you have made a grave mistake.
Systemd's issues are only getting worse with time.
The crap thing about all those new fancy technologies is that it doesn't remove previously encoded files.
While this is very true, at some point you need to cut your losses and re-rip your CDs. Alternatively, pirate a higher quality version.
if you are thinking exclusively about money and nothing else. -_-
People need to stop using Java for everything, not because of personal preference but because of Oracle's incessant bullshit. Honestly, if OpenJDK hadn't originated from SUN then Java programmers would shit out of luck as Oracle would have had to crush them just to get to Google.
Stop supporting Oracle's eternal war and move to different languages!
Bleem! wasn't just a cool PSX emu, it was so good that Sony wouldn't allow it to exist.
The way our email protocols were created show a total lack of consideration for this type of bad behavior. If it happened on Arpanet, it should have been fixed by the time it became Darpanet. This shows a real lack of foresight in the creation of SMTP (in 1982).
Reading comprehension fail! Classic AC move.
In the 90s, i would get a sustained throughput of 4KB/s with dialup. Now I can get a sustained throughput of 4MB/s with a cable modem.
Try not to overthink it.
I see no need for anyone to add MP3 support to any Linux distro because while MP3 was good for the time, it's basically noisy garbage now that there has been significant competition and three orders of magnitude improvement on both storage capacity and network bandwidth. However, what this does mean is that any part of MP3 that was somehow better can now be incorporated into other codecs, so it's not a total loss... just 96kbps lossy. ;)
Thank you for the kind permission, but they aren't party to this discussion. You made the claim, you have to substantiate it. And you, obviously, can not.
My claim is equally as valid as the the claim that the documents are legitimate because neither has been proven. However, if you feel compelled to "win" this debate then mission accomplished because neither side can prove their authenticity or lack thereof.
The rest of your drivel is irrelevant. Congratulations on winning.
"The En Marche! Movement has been the victim of a massive and co-ordinated hack this evening which has given rise to the diffusion on social media of various internal information," the statement said. In its statement on Friday, En Marche! said that the documents released online only showed the normal functioning of a presidential campaign, but that authentic documents had been mixed on social media with fake ones to sow "doubt and misinformation."
Feel free to demand proof from The En Marche! Movement.
For all we know, there may be a 1000 genuine copies of real documents and 1 slightly altered
That would mean there are 1000 genuine documents and one false document. Anything taken from the this dump should be assumed to be that one false document until proven genuine.
It should be. It may even already be. But humans aren't perfect
I don't seek perfection, I only seek better than the present condition.
the statement: "he killed his wife and her lover" is false according to the "reasonable doubt" standard (used by criminal courts), but true on the preponderance of evidence (used in the civil suits)... So much for the "truth is absolute"..
Incorrect. Either he killed his wife and her lover or he did not. What is decided by a court does not change that reality.
I made no claim the dump is genuine.
It need not be you that made the claim but the claim was made that these documents were taken from Emmanuel Macron's campaign. If no claim is made then they are considered to be original pieces of work meaning they are not from Emmanuel Macron's campaign. The former requires a burden of proof while the latter is assumed.
Well, let's see... Is the sky blue?
I was specifically referring to document authenticity. They are either authentic or they are not. Why do you keep bring up Hillary Clinton?
Everyone should be held to this standard.
Which omni-scient and benevolent deity would be doing the holding?
Accountability need no single overlord. It should be part of our culture.
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It would seem the people enjoy this kind of thing.
If it's truly a matter of battery-life or recording capacity then there is a technological update that needs to be made. Purpose built hardware like this should be able to record 24 hours of video without interruption.
It seems like Apple products have been moving from useful products more toward just being status symbols. Seriously, the Apple Watches provide you with near zero useful functionality and have really shitty battery-life.
Accuracy is always good, but a lot of it is subjective.
No, it's either a genuine stolen document or it's a false document designed to mislead. There is no middle ground.
And, besides, when Hillary's e-mails were posted, no one protested the content. People were outraged over "Putin" meddling in the US elections, but I don't recall anyone calling any particular e-mail a fake...
The truth was damming enough.
Besides, politicians — and their fans — lie and exaggerate all the time, it is par of the course. Why should the requirements and the expectations be higher for leaked info?
Exaggerations are just another form of lying. Either information is true or it is false. Everyone should be held to this standard.
The problem here is that misinformation has been mixed in with the information
Has it been? Citations?
The burden of proof comes on the original claim that they are genuine.
How is Democracy at risk over this? Does not "information want to be free"? Is not it good that voters know more about the candidate, than less?
It's good if the information is accurate. The problem here is that misinformation has been mixed in with the information. When people are misinformed, they make poor choices.
#3: You gonna get hacked!
Why do I assume it was a Windows machine that was compromised? Because it's always* a Windows machine that gets compromised.
* excludes all instances of morons running internet-facing PHP sites *cough*wordpress*cough*