I came up with the name Server 51. I pitched a list of names out into an internal malining list (many weird names) and Server 51 got the most votes. I was thinking of Area 51. I had never heard of System 12 before. *shrug*
I'm starting to think that someone working on Slashdot intentionally posts the exact wrong URL for every web site I work on! (Shall I remind you of the Linux Bazaar pics fiasco?)
Grrr...
Guys please for now on cc' the announcement text BEFORE you post it! Thank you.
Re: Corrections to CVS instructions (read this)
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Slash v0.9 Released
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· Score: 5
I'm going to abuse my karma/and/ attach this to a highly-rated early comment so hopefully enough people will see this. Here are better CVS instructions then what we have posted at Server 51 (which I'm working on):
cd into a directory you want to download the slash source files to.
cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.server51.freshmeat.net:/cvs root/Slash login (anonymous password is blank -- just type return)
cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.server51.freshmeat.net:/cvs root/Slash co slash
I was trying to keep an open mind about LinuxOne and I figured "OK, so they started with Red Hat, chopped some stuff out and added their own stuff in, right?" I mean they wouldn't just blatantly copy Red Hat 6.x and remove all references to Red Hat, who would be so lame? Well this review finally explains it: they didn't copy Red Hat -- they copied Mandrake 6! What is gauling to me is that according to this reviewer they appear to have added absolutely nothing to the distro. If they actually did add a few new drivers or a new install maybe they could justisfy this, but new files are nowhere to be found.
Sadly enough I'm still willing to give this company a chance to prove itself as adding some value. Maybe they need more time. Maybe they have good intentions but grossly underestimated how much work is involved in putting together a distro. Maybe they have something special in development. I still can't believe this is all they have to offer -- it's just too ridiculous to believe.
People calm down. We have our best perl coders here slaving over the Slash release. Patrick, Rob, and Pater are trying to convert their undocumented code and database schema into something that can be installed on other machines besides this one. The Slash code really is hardcoded in many ways and they are trying to unhardcode it for you now now. But they very much appreciate your flames so please keep 'em coming. =)
What you've stated is really what these awards are supposed to be about. Slashdot has considerable weight as a community voice and this is a chance shine some spotlight on projects that matter to us, or some of us at least.
I'm going to abuse my Karma here and point out some things that people seem to be overlooking judging from various comments being posted:
1. You don't have to nominate just Linux projects. Even the "Kernel Module" category could mean a BSD module. None of the categories explicately say "Linux" so if you feel your favorite project is being overlooked then post an argument for it in the nomination forums so others will be persuaded to vote with you.
2. Please read the category list before suggesting that mod_perl be named "Most Deserving of $2000" because you will notice there is a category called "Best Apache Module". I see some nomination ideas being posted in entirely the wrong category.
3. Don't be afraid to nominate a charity or anyone outside of the computer realm for "Most Deserving of $2000". It's wide open to suggestions. Post your suggestions in the approprate forum where others can follow your lead. Be creative.
There is already a category called "Best Newbie Helper" which is probably you're best chance for shining some light on your favorite doc writer or doc host.
1. The nomination process is wide open so you are welcome to login and make your case for whoever your feel deserves the money more than the usual well-known projects. Imagine that you could actually post a persuasive argument to help an under-funded project which you depend on rather than standing on the sidelines and bitching that nobody does anything for open source developers.
2. You have to be logged in to vote. I'm not sure about the internals but I'm sure this is because there is code under here that will specifically exclude any vote bots.
3. Andover doesn't allow other Linux news sites to carry word of these awards??? What are you high? This was sent out as a press release today and is already announced on LinuxToday.
So you're the type who doesn't vote because you feel democracy doesn't work, right? Nice attitude. Glad to have you in the community. I'm sure all the open source projects whose software you depend on really appreciate having you do nothing on their behalf. They ought to be thanking you.
We all love VA and appreciate what they're doing but bear in mind that as of today they have $8.2 billion dollars of Wall St. capital at their disposal so I don't see the point in donating $10,000 to VA Linux. Think "under-funded". Think charity.
pine is simple and logical. Going through a pile of email is easy, just tap the N key to see the next message, R to reply, Ctrl+X to send, D to delete (and by the way all these commands are highlighted at the bottom of the screen so you don't have to memorize odd keystrokes)
Pine makes it very easy to do your email over a remote shell session.
My only gripe with pine is how difficult they make it to make your reply-to address different from your username -- it's a hidden option!
pine also includes the pico editor which I nominated as best open source editor.
I wish you'd log into the nominations forum and post these there because your list has some of the best suggestions I've seen so far and yet this needs to be posted in the niminations forums not here.
Can I touch you? Please? Can I look directly at you and not be blinded? Seriously where would be today if the Apple II didn't sway into giving up my social life and making the big bucks in computer programming? I would probably be a stone carver apprenticed under European masters cutting fine likenesses of famous actresses and tycoons thus winning their respect and they would patronize my work and I would be compared to Michaelangelo swamped with commisions from churches, businesses, governments... my family would see my work and be proud, my many beutiful girlfriends would be fighting my attention and I would render their beauty in hard granite to last an eternity but instead I'm sitting here at this stupid keyboard tapping temporary bits of garbage that will sent of into the void of a digital medium that is overflowing with noise and volatile data that will someday be forgotten and lost.
QUESTION: Do you at all feel a sense of guilt for building the machine that pulled the attention of so many talented young people into the abyss of the digital medium?...and may I touch you?
'less we forget, Red Hat invited open source people in on the ground floor of their IPO as a gift -- a token of appreciation, if you will. Sure E*Trade botched it up, or perhaps several newbie investors were stung by the harsh realitys of IPO trading, but nonetheless Red Hat was not obligated to set aside any shares for anyone and here we see several people whining about the whole IPO process not being user-friendly and now there's even a Red Hat Wealth Meter suggesting that the shares set aside for open source people were unfairly proportioned to shares for Red Hat employees. Gimme a break!
At least Red Hat made the effort of sharing the wealth with OSS developers -- show me another company that would have done the same.
Freshmeat founder Patrick "scoop" Lenz, Slashdot founders Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda and Jeff "Hemos" Bates and Andover.Net founder Bruce Twickler will be at the Andover.Net keynote party, Tuesday, Aug. 10, 7:30 pm, at the Parkside Hall across the street from the San Jose Convention Center. Please call Manya Rossignoli or Chris Stamm at (781) 684-0770 to schedule an interview.
I've stressed that to upper managers many times here at Andover, and I think they're listening.
Slashdot and Freshmeat happen to be the two favorite sites of the geeks working here so we will be the first to cry loudly if our suits have any funny ideas about either site.
Even if Microsoft tried to buy us (which is very unlikely) Rob and scoop still by contract have total creative control over their respective sites and always have last say on what gets posted there.
Right now upper management here understands that it's in Andover's best interests to let Rob and scoop maintain their sites because whatever they're doing they're doing it right because the IT crowd is coming here in droves.
Slashdot Mirror
I came up with the name Server 51. I pitched a list of names out into an internal malining list (many weird names) and Server 51 got the most votes. I was thinking of Area 51. I had never heard of System 12 before. *shrug*
Grrr...
Guys please for now on cc' the announcement text BEFORE you post it! Thank you.
Kurt
Server51.freshmeat.net
Sadly enough I'm still willing to give this company a chance to prove itself as adding some value. Maybe they need more time. Maybe they have good intentions but grossly underestimated how much work is involved in putting together a distro. Maybe they have something special in development. I still can't believe this is all they have to offer -- it's just too ridiculous to believe.
People calm down. We have our best perl coders here slaving over the Slash release. Patrick, Rob, and Pater are trying to convert their undocumented code and database schema into something that can be installed on other machines besides this one. The Slash code really is hardcoded in many ways and they are trying to unhardcode it for you now now. But they very much appreciate your flames so please keep 'em coming. =)
What you've stated is really what these awards are supposed to be about. Slashdot has considerable weight as a community voice and this is a chance shine some spotlight on projects that matter to us, or some of us at least.
1. You don't have to nominate just Linux projects. Even the "Kernel Module" category could mean a BSD module. None of the categories explicately say "Linux" so if you feel your favorite project is being overlooked then post an argument for it in the nomination forums so others will be persuaded to vote with you.
2. Please read the category list before suggesting that mod_perl be named "Most Deserving of $2000" because you will notice there is a category called "Best Apache Module". I see some nomination ideas being posted in entirely the wrong category.
3. Don't be afraid to nominate a charity or anyone outside of the computer realm for "Most Deserving of $2000". It's wide open to suggestions. Post your suggestions in the approprate forum where others can follow your lead. Be creative.
There is already a category called "Best Newbie Helper" which is probably you're best chance for shining some light on your favorite doc writer or doc host.
Good idea! If I had any mod points I'd moderate
you up!
The Net:: bundle does everything from DNS lookups, sending email (Net::SMTP), FTP, NNTP, etc. etc.
"pico -w" will turn off the goofy line wrapping.
http://www.andover.net/employment.html
When are going to post some quickies, damnit!!
Love,
Kurt
Would you agree that Kurt Gray is by far the biggest jerk working at Andover.Net?
1. The nomination process is wide open so
you are welcome to login and make your case for
whoever your feel deserves the money more than
the usual well-known projects. Imagine that you
could actually post a persuasive argument to help
an under-funded project which you depend on rather
than standing on the sidelines and bitching that
nobody does anything for open source developers.
2. You have to be logged in to vote. I'm not sure
about the internals but I'm sure this is because
there is code under here that will specifically
exclude any vote bots.
3. Andover doesn't allow other Linux news sites to
carry word of these awards??? What are you high?
This was sent out as a press release today and is
already announced on LinuxToday.
So you're the type who doesn't vote because you
feel democracy doesn't work, right? Nice attitude.
Glad to have you in the community. I'm sure all
the open source projects whose software you
depend on really appreciate having you do nothing
on their behalf. They ought to be thanking you.
Funded projects include Debian, GNOME, LSB, and Berlin.
We all love VA and appreciate what they're doing but bear in mind that as of today they have $8.2 billion dollars of Wall St. capital at their disposal so I don't see the point in donating $10,000 to VA Linux. Think "under-funded". Think charity.
Pine makes it very easy to do your email over a remote shell session.
My only gripe with pine is how difficult they make it to make your reply-to address different from your username -- it's a hidden option!
pine also includes the pico editor which I nominated as best open source editor.
Pico is:
- small
- simple
- useful
- fast
- included. If you've got pine, you've got pico.
I wish you'd log into the nominations forum
and post these there because your list has some
of the best suggestions I've seen so far and
yet this needs to be posted in the niminations
forums not here.
Can I touch you? Please? Can I look directly at you and not be blinded? Seriously where would be today if the Apple II didn't sway into giving up my social life and making the big bucks in computer programming? I would probably be a stone carver apprenticed under European masters cutting fine likenesses of famous actresses and tycoons thus winning their respect and they would patronize my work and I would be compared to Michaelangelo swamped with commisions from churches, businesses, governments... my family would see my work and be proud, my many beutiful girlfriends would be fighting my attention and I would render their beauty in hard granite to last an eternity but instead I'm sitting here at this stupid keyboard tapping temporary bits of garbage that will sent of into the void of a digital medium that is overflowing with noise and volatile data that will someday be forgotten and lost.
QUESTION: Do you at all feel a sense of guilt for building the machine that pulled the attention of so many talented young people into the abyss of the digital medium? ...and may I touch you?
'less we forget, Red Hat invited open source people in on the ground floor of their IPO as a gift -- a token of appreciation, if you will. Sure E*Trade botched it up, or perhaps several newbie investors were stung by the harsh realitys of IPO trading, but nonetheless Red Hat was not obligated to set aside any shares for anyone and here we see several people whining about the whole IPO process not being user-friendly and now there's even a Red Hat Wealth Meter suggesting that the shares set aside for open source people were unfairly proportioned to shares for Red Hat employees. Gimme a break!
At least Red Hat made the effort of sharing the wealth with OSS developers -- show me another company that would have done the same.
Freshmeat founder Patrick
"scoop" Lenz, Slashdot founders Rob
"CmdrTaco" Malda and Jeff "Hemos"
Bates and Andover.Net founder Bruce
Twickler will be at the Andover.Net
keynote party, Tuesday, Aug. 10, 7:30
pm, at the Parkside Hall across the street
from the San Jose Convention Center.
Please call Manya Rossignoli or Chris
Stamm at (781) 684-0770 to schedule an
interview.
Disclaimer: You know...
I've stressed that to upper managers many times
here at Andover, and I think they're listening.
Slashdot and Freshmeat happen to be the two
favorite sites of the geeks working here so we
will be the first to cry loudly if our suits have
any funny ideas about either site.
Disclaimer: I work at Andover.Net.
Even if Microsoft tried to buy us (which is very
unlikely) Rob and scoop still by contract have
total creative control over their respective sites
and always have last say on what gets posted there.
Right now upper management here understands that
it's in Andover's best interests to let Rob and scoop maintain
their sites because whatever they're doing they're
doing it right because the IT crowd is coming here
in droves.