That and it's shiny and well built...and stylish and they all look the same. I wouldn't say the ipod interface is all that great, but at least its consistent and somewhat obvious.
Anyone remember canoma? It did something similar to this years ago. I don't know much about it because by the time I heard about it, Adobe had already bought it and killed it.
Thanks again big software. =)
-g
Here here. Valuation is a good example of the human aspect to all of the market. Look at CROCs as another good example.
Look at China Mobile and PetroChina. Value does not necessarily reflect value.
IMHO MSQL at a billion seems like a deal.
"A billion here, a billion there, pretty soon it adds up to real money"
While open standards are starting to gain some traction, I don't think they're all-out winning.
Taking a quick look at Apple shows this. They use proprietary batteries, connectors/cables, DRM. Apple's not suffering at all from this...they're raking in extra profit from selling batches of crap. It's their customers who are hurt.
I don't mean to beat up on Apple--I know how protective you/.ers get when people bash them =), they were just the first one off the top of my head.
Other examples include proprietary crap in wireless standards--look at all the "108MBps/Super/XR/whatever" 802.11g add ons...none of them work accross vendors. Same with the pre-N crap.
Flash memory used to be one of the worst examples, with sony MemoryStick and olympus XDC and so forth pushing their stupid formats that have no reason to exist.
It's nice when there's enough competition for open standards to work. I guess the problem comes in when one company can push
Another question is will file transfers finally work? What about direct connection (for pictures, etc)?
It's been on-again-off-again for years...even with the real aol client. don't get me started on how spotty/non-existent this functionality has been on gaim, etc.
I was introduced to IM through ICQ back before AIM existed. I remember Aim being ok, but ICQ was much better...well naturally AOL bought mirabilis for 300M-odd dollars way back when and then did the "standard operating procedure" (see the story of Netscape, Nullsoft, et al) of just letting it fester without updates while they pushed their product.
AIM was pretty much the only game in town after that for me...I had my people on AIM, and didn't see any reason to move to yahoo, let alone Msn.
Then everything seemed to stay the same for liek 5 years. The only thing AOL really seemed to be working on was adding loud video ads and fighting against the people who tried to make their crap usable -- like deadaim and it's ilk, gaim, etc.
Over the past seemingly decade, there was talk of cross-network integration...a la msn meets aim, etc. As far as I got was logging into multiple networks in gaim--which is NOT what I was hoping for.
Then google finally put out google talk, a great implementation. Easy enough for my parents to use, no ads....less spyware concern because google doesn't have an evil time warner overlord. And there's a web version of gtalk which beats the PANTs off of the aol crapfest they've called aim express. That's good for those who run different OSes or who don't want to be committed to installing software locally. To their credit aol did put out some token linux release, which i appreciated.
Call me old school but I like the TSR windows client. I don't want my IMs getting lost in browser tabs...I wish they'd port it to linux.
Anyway I read todays news as AOL is losing customers, so they're finally getting their protocol straight and using a standard.
Anyway, Google. PLEASE, please please grab AOl off of time warner...they've been dying to get rid of it, although they're too proud to admit it. Take their user base and merge it with yours. Get rid of their crap....get the media company bias out of their products...I'll take google's signature embedded ads over just about anything that's ever come out of AOL
While you're at it, take nullsoft too...and release all the source code....it might be best to release the code from before the AOL merger, btw.
It's a shame they left out nokia's internet tablet. The 800 is supposed to ship with google talk, and its wide-open linux so it's possible to add other clients as well.
I agree with the sentiment which you consider arrogant and stupid. Regardless of what is causing our habitat to change, it is in our interest to keep it optimally livable. If CO2 causes higher temperatures in higher concentrations, we should lower our output in CO2. Its not arrogant or stupid to think that we can do it. We have materially changed the Earth before, our ability to do so is larger in the future. We should at least think a little bit about what we do to it.
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That and it's shiny and well built...and stylish and they all look the same. I wouldn't say the ipod interface is all that great, but at least its consistent and somewhat obvious.
Anyone remember canoma? It did something similar to this years ago. I don't know much about it because by the time I heard about it, Adobe had already bought it and killed it. Thanks again big software. =) -g
Here here. Valuation is a good example of the human aspect to all of the market. Look at CROCs as another good example. Look at China Mobile and PetroChina. Value does not necessarily reflect value. IMHO MSQL at a billion seems like a deal. "A billion here, a billion there, pretty soon it adds up to real money"
While open standards are starting to gain some traction, I don't think they're all-out winning.
/.ers get when people bash them =), they were just the first one off the top of my head.
Taking a quick look at Apple shows this. They use proprietary batteries, connectors/cables, DRM. Apple's not suffering at all from this...they're raking in extra profit from selling batches of crap. It's their customers who are hurt.
I don't mean to beat up on Apple--I know how protective you
Other examples include proprietary crap in wireless standards--look at all the "108MBps/Super/XR/whatever" 802.11g add ons...none of them work accross vendors. Same with the pre-N crap.
Flash memory used to be one of the worst examples, with sony MemoryStick and olympus XDC and so forth pushing their stupid formats that have no reason to exist.
It's nice when there's enough competition for open standards to work. I guess the problem comes in when one company can push
Another question is will file transfers finally work? What about direct connection (for pictures, etc)? It's been on-again-off-again for years...even with the real aol client. don't get me started on how spotty/non-existent this functionality has been on gaim, etc.
I was introduced to IM through ICQ back before AIM existed. I remember Aim being ok, but ICQ was much better...well naturally AOL bought mirabilis for 300M-odd dollars way back when and then did the "standard operating procedure" (see the story of Netscape, Nullsoft, et al) of just letting it fester without updates while they pushed their product.
AIM was pretty much the only game in town after that for me...I had my people on AIM, and didn't see any reason to move to yahoo, let alone Msn.
Then everything seemed to stay the same for liek 5 years. The only thing AOL really seemed to be working on was adding loud video ads and fighting against the people who tried to make their crap usable -- like deadaim and it's ilk, gaim, etc.
Over the past seemingly decade, there was talk of cross-network integration...a la msn meets aim, etc. As far as I got was logging into multiple networks in gaim--which is NOT what I was hoping for.
Then google finally put out google talk, a great implementation. Easy enough for my parents to use, no ads....less spyware concern because google doesn't have an evil time warner overlord. And there's a web version of gtalk which beats the PANTs off of the aol crapfest they've called aim express. That's good for those who run different OSes or who don't want to be committed to installing software locally. To their credit aol did put out some token linux release, which i appreciated.
Call me old school but I like the TSR windows client. I don't want my IMs getting lost in browser tabs...I wish they'd port it to linux.
Anyway I read todays news as AOL is losing customers, so they're finally getting their protocol straight and using a standard.
Anyway, Google. PLEASE, please please grab AOl off of time warner...they've been dying to get rid of it, although they're too proud to admit it. Take their user base and merge it with yours. Get rid of their crap....get the media company bias out of their products...I'll take google's signature embedded ads over just about anything that's ever come out of AOL
While you're at it, take nullsoft too...and release all the source code....it might be best to release the code from before the AOL merger, btw.
We need to terraform mars, and do it RIGHT this time. -g
It's a shame they left out nokia's internet tablet. The 800 is supposed to ship with google talk, and its wide-open linux so it's possible to add other clients as well.
I agree with the sentiment which you consider arrogant and stupid. Regardless of what is causing our habitat to change, it is in our interest to keep it optimally livable. If CO2 causes higher temperatures in higher concentrations, we should lower our output in CO2. Its not arrogant or stupid to think that we can do it. We have materially changed the Earth before, our ability to do so is larger in the future. We should at least think a little bit about what we do to it.