It's smaller because there is less information in it, because it is binary, and because it is optimized for that. Half of what is in svg stays in the fla. Compression is not a silver bullet. You should just do some tests...
err. That is incorrect. Swf is a binary format, that doesn't mean it is compressed. In fact, swf also has a compress option since v6, and that makes it much smaller that without. Svg is much much bigger than swf (I've written an swf to svg converter so I'm not just making this up). Also, be sure to include all referenced items, like bitmaps, in your svg count. Swf often stores those smaller too, as it can do things like jpg alphas rather than png, and store one jpgTable for multiple images. Sound can be mp3. etc. etc.
Amongst all the usual silly ms reactions, has there been anyone who has actually sat down and did a side by side comparison of.net and linux\gnome? Why is everyone worrying about MS winning by some little trick when one is about 10000 times better than the other (yes,.net is the better one, sorry but it is a plain fact). Really, do yourself a service and just take a look at them both. Then you can start worrying about linux, or do like some, and learn from it to make linux better. If they take the bios... where do you live!?
Actaully this just levels the playig field. Now we can worry about getting a virus from opening both types of mail. Esp Microsoft mail with porn attachments.
Why do you think so many sites you visit have ads?
I'll tell you - because they have people hired to work on the sites. These people work on the site every day. Eventually they become quite adept at it, they understand their viewers, and they create good content. The sites with no ads tend to be one shot deals, maybe worth a visit once, but not usually twice. So why do almost all your favorite sites have ads? They have expenses. And they have a ton of viewers. Forget content, bandwidth alone costs them more than most would think. For example, a (free formerly adless) site we used to do animation for, the Romp.com, had bandwidth costs of $80,000/month. How would you all suggest covering that? Answer - give up on the web and do something else. That's what they (and many others including me) did. The web is great fun, but if the choice is 'do what you love' or 'do what you love and make a living' I'll take the latter. So would you.
Ads = money
Money = hours worked * quality of worker
It always puzzles me how the/. crowd can get so excited about a (very stupid) tv show like star trek, *chock* full of ads, and then get indignant about a web ad. And don't say you leave the room when ads come up - unless you have a severe bladder infection as well as an eating disorder. Just put up your hand, and say 'My name is ____ and I'm a hypocrite..."
No.
Is it ironic that Honda ships its cars around on Freightliner trucks? No, it would be stupid to have a trailer full of cars pulled by anything but a semi. Does this mean Freightliner is superior to Honda, or that people who drive them have an extra two inches on their penis? No again. Lets not be to smug and petty now...
> Complex carbon molecules and water,
> which are key ingredients for life
Uhh, life on earth that is... Why is everyone so convinced that other life has to be carbon life? Computers aren't alive, but the do prove you can do a lot with silicon at least.
Ok, so carbon based or possibly silicon based, but nothing else for sure! I think these guys are just holding out hope of finding similar life forms that might actually date them..
This is all exactly true. Get a graphic designer to voulenteer and work with you. Don't, for the love of god, have a contest. I guarentee you this is the wrong approach.
Forget the stupid linux requirement. There are no linux vector tools (other than part of CorelDraw running under windows emulation...). There is no accurate color matching system in linux. It is NOT possible at this time to design a good logo with Linux, in the whole sense of what a logo needs to be. Name two people in the world making a living designing corporate identities on linux machines.
To get an idea of why linux guys judging logo contests are a bad idea, look at the LDP logo (http://www.linuxdoc.org). Nice graphic, but it is not a logo. If you have to print something like that on a red box, or in two color, or fax it, it will not work. It does not work as a logo either. This is the work of a talented artist to be sure, it is pretty to be sure, but it does not satisfy the requirements of a logo.
Someone also suggested that there are 3d programs that you could use in Linux. You do not make logos in a 3d program. You do not make logos in a raster graphic program like gimp. Tux is a terrible logo for linux. You could also make a good logo out of this idea, but it is awful and unusable as it stands now.
You should really ask NMerriam, or someone of that calibre to help you out. This is not Dilbert's world. Marketing matters. Good and correct graphics are very important. Especially for something that has to go to print. Really.
Sorry to disagree, but we have been making a (very good) living doing animated cartoons on the web for three years now, and trust me, the middleman is your friend. Everyone with an arts degree seems to think that unless you are the one with the pen in your hand, you are overhead. They have no clue, and that is the big reason they can't put food on the table. Musicians are exactly the same, they all dream of pressing their own CD in their own recording studio and selling it on the net. Worse than thinking they will make money this way, they think they will save money. Linux people often suffer from this too.
Why can't online cartoonists make a living? Well, because they can. Just team up with people that know something about marketing, and something about business. Why can't they keep all the cash for themselves? Because they can't earn it themselves. Why don't most cartoons sell? Because they are made to please the cartoonist, not the audience. Read another way, the cartoonist thinks they are great, but nobody else does. Will micropayments work? no. If they did, would that mean you could cut out the middleman? no. get serious.
Why would you ask yourself, and ask us, what the kid should be interested in? Find out what the kid likes and do that. --or-- Do what you are good at and see if the kid is interested. Don't assume you (or anyone here for damn sure) knows what is best, especially for someone else...
PS did you metion nanotechnology just so you could get on slashdot?
They have caved in and picked a new name, I guess selling the old domain was worth a lot more than the cost of changing the letterhead. So for school year 2001, it will be officially know as U of Pussy. From rodent to feline. Wow.
Wow! A bunch of starving hordes just came stampeding up my mountains side demanding that I share all my hoarded dog food - begging me to teach them how to reboot a 386. Good thing a stray nuke took them all out. Aren't all those cynics that laughed at me looking terrified now. Ha! My day has come!! Year 2000 and still no cure for moronism
Having lived there for a few years, just wanted to point out that people are killed for much less. I watched the 'trial' of a ring of tv theives in Xinning, 3 men two women, all found guilty. Not suprising given that there was only a prosecutor present. Anyway, they don't actually kill people in public. They parade then around town for awhile, and then shoot them in the back of the head one by one somewhere else.
Everyone seems to figure this guy was killed because it was a computer crime, but in reality the only reason anyone is shocked is that it was a computer crime. Computer people somehow figure if they steal with a computer it they should be let free. Mostly because they use computers I would guess.
Anyway, dont be too alarmed, per capita Texas is smoking the PRC, and per capita incarceration is much lower there too. In fact the crime rate in general is way lower. I actually spent a few weeks being detained there without being raped in a shower or becoming a junkie. The death penalty is just as stupid on this side of the ocean, don't kid yourself.
Screw Mars, do you all realize that for just under a few billion dollars we can send out humans to explore the entire internet? Enough of this remote exploration, lets have a highly trained rugged individuals to go down to the likes of Yahoo and tell us what they see. Have the guy call the president from the server room. Trace the wire down the hall. Lets get the real scoop here, enough of this machine based communication. Robin
The one thing computers do is make things accountable. A prof can bluf his/her way through a crap course in a university. Corespondence courses can hide in obscurity. Once things are up for everyone to examine though, its much harder to hide. Just ask any manager who lost a job after pivot tables came into use... I doubt this would have been a story if the same quality was delivered in a classroom. "X University Offers a Crap Course". Now that is a headline.
They beta test in limited batches to get limited amounts of feedback from users they feel would help them the best. The reason campanies don't release betas to the world at large to keep is it make technical support a complete nightmare (read costly). Corel might 'actually' support this distro, as opposed to all the other ones, so I wouldn't be so quick to condem. I was on various Corel Draw beta programs, the wording seems very familiar but I haven't dug it out. Its also not the type of document you want to just whizz out over lunch. What you say can have pretty long term implications, so companies tend to over state things and sound very heavy handed. Thus clauses like 'if this is legal where you live...' If I am having troulble with code that I know does not work right, and send it to Mary to have a look have I violated anything? Perhaps I didn't post it to the world, hoping to avoid lots of mail saying 'it doesn't work'. That type of mail can last years. So? So reeelllaaaaxxxxxxxx..... - Robin
some of the nicest people you'll ever meet...
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The people of Taiwan and Fujian are about as nice as they come. I really fear this one is going to be a bad one though. I was near Kobe when it happend, it seemed like not that big a deal at first, but that all changed pretty quickly. They have tremendous inner strength, I guess its being tested at the moment. Wish I wasn't just sitting here... We should have a motherboard auction and donate the proceeds or something. I know it wouldn't help much of anything, but it would make me feel a little less useless. Hope the road is as easy as it can be in the coming weeks.
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It's smaller because there is less information in it, because it is binary, and because it is optimized for that. Half of what is in svg stays in the fla. Compression is not a silver bullet. You should just do some tests...
err. That is incorrect. Swf is a binary format, that doesn't mean it is compressed. In fact, swf also has a compress option since v6, and that makes it much smaller that without. Svg is much much bigger than swf (I've written an swf to svg converter so I'm not just making this up). Also, be sure to include all referenced items, like bitmaps, in your svg count. Swf often stores those smaller too, as it can do things like jpg alphas rather than png, and store one jpgTable for multiple images. Sound can be mp3. etc. etc.
Amongst all the usual silly ms reactions, has there been anyone who has actually sat down and did a side by side comparison of .net and linux\gnome? Why is everyone worrying about MS winning by some little trick when one is about 10000 times better than the other (yes, .net is the better one, sorry but it is a plain fact). Really, do yourself a service and just take a look at them both. Then you can start worrying about linux, or do like some, and learn from it to make linux better. If they take the bios... where do you live!?
Actaully this just levels the playig field. Now we can worry about getting a virus from opening both types of mail. Esp Microsoft mail with porn attachments.
Why do you think so many sites you visit have ads?
/. crowd can get so excited about a (very stupid) tv show like star trek, *chock* full of ads, and then get indignant about a web ad. And don't say you leave the room when ads come up - unless you have a severe bladder infection as well as an eating disorder. Just put up your hand, and say 'My name is ____ and I'm a hypocrite..."
I'll tell you - because they have people hired to work on the sites. These people work on the site every day. Eventually they become quite adept at it, they understand their viewers, and they create good content. The sites with no ads tend to be one shot deals, maybe worth a visit once, but not usually twice. So why do almost all your favorite sites have ads? They have expenses. And they have a ton of viewers. Forget content, bandwidth alone costs them more than most would think. For example, a (free formerly adless) site we used to do animation for, the Romp.com, had bandwidth costs of $80,000/month. How would you all suggest covering that? Answer - give up on the web and do something else. That's what they (and many others including me) did. The web is great fun, but if the choice is 'do what you love' or 'do what you love and make a living' I'll take the latter. So would you.
Ads = money
Money = hours worked * quality of worker
It always puzzles me how the
Ahh, that feels better!
No. Is it ironic that Honda ships its cars around on Freightliner trucks? No, it would be stupid to have a trailer full of cars pulled by anything but a semi. Does this mean Freightliner is superior to Honda, or that people who drive them have an extra two inches on their penis? No again. Lets not be to smug and petty now...
> Complex carbon molecules and water,
> which are key ingredients for life
Uhh, life on earth that is... Why is everyone so convinced that other life has to be carbon life? Computers aren't alive, but the do prove you can do a lot with silicon at least.
Ok, so carbon based or possibly silicon based, but nothing else for sure! I think these guys are just holding out hope of finding similar life forms that might actually date them..
Robin
This is all exactly true. Get a graphic designer to voulenteer and work with you. Don't, for the love of god, have a contest. I guarentee you this is the wrong approach.
Forget the stupid linux requirement. There are no linux vector tools (other than part of CorelDraw running under windows emulation...). There is no accurate color matching system in linux. It is NOT possible at this time to design a good logo with Linux, in the whole sense of what a logo needs to be. Name two people in the world making a living designing corporate identities on linux machines.
To get an idea of why linux guys judging logo contests are a bad idea, look at the LDP logo (http://www.linuxdoc.org). Nice graphic, but it is not a logo. If you have to print something like that on a red box, or in two color, or fax it, it will not work. It does not work as a logo either. This is the work of a talented artist to be sure, it is pretty to be sure, but it does not satisfy the requirements of a logo.
Someone also suggested that there are 3d programs that you could use in Linux. You do not make logos in a 3d program. You do not make logos in a raster graphic program like gimp. Tux is a terrible logo for linux. You could also make a good logo out of this idea, but it is awful and unusable as it stands now.
You should really ask NMerriam, or someone of that calibre to help you out. This is not Dilbert's world. Marketing matters. Good and correct graphics are very important. Especially for something that has to go to print. Really.
Robin
Someone should tell them to go bake themselves..
Sorry to disagree, but we have been making a (very good) living doing animated cartoons on the web for three years now, and trust me, the middleman is your friend. Everyone with an arts degree seems to think that unless you are the one with the pen in your hand, you are overhead. They have no clue, and that is the big reason they can't put food on the table. Musicians are exactly the same, they all dream of pressing their own CD in their own recording studio and selling it on the net. Worse than thinking they will make money this way, they think they will save money. Linux people often suffer from this too.
Why can't online cartoonists make a living? Well, because they can. Just team up with people that know something about marketing, and something about business. Why can't they keep all the cash for themselves? Because they can't earn it themselves. Why don't most cartoons sell? Because they are made to please the cartoonist, not the audience. Read another way, the cartoonist thinks they are great, but nobody else does. Will micropayments work? no. If they did, would that mean you could cut out the middleman? no. get serious.
Why would you ask yourself, and ask us, what the kid should be interested in? Find out what the kid likes and do that. --or-- Do what you are good at and see if the kid is interested. Don't assume you (or anyone here for damn sure) knows what is best, especially for someone else... PS did you metion nanotechnology just so you could get on slashdot?
They have caved in and picked a new name, I guess selling the old domain was worth a lot more than the cost of changing the letterhead. So for school year 2001, it will be officially know as U of Pussy. From rodent to feline. Wow.
Wow! A bunch of starving hordes just came stampeding up my mountains side demanding that I share all my hoarded dog food - begging me to teach them how to reboot a 386. Good thing a stray nuke took them all out. Aren't all those cynics that laughed at me looking terrified now. Ha! My day has come!! Year 2000 and still no cure for moronism
Having lived there for a few years, just wanted to point out that people are killed for much less. I watched the 'trial' of a ring of tv theives in Xinning, 3 men two women, all found guilty. Not suprising given that there was only a prosecutor present. Anyway, they don't actually kill people in public. They parade then around town for awhile, and then shoot them in the back of the head one by one somewhere else.
Everyone seems to figure this guy was killed because it was a computer crime, but in reality the only reason anyone is shocked is that it was a computer crime. Computer people somehow figure if they steal with a computer it they should be let free. Mostly because they use computers I would guess.
Anyway, dont be too alarmed, per capita Texas is smoking the PRC, and per capita incarceration is much lower there too. In fact the crime rate in general is way lower. I actually spent a few weeks being detained there without being raped in a shower or becoming a junkie. The death penalty is just as stupid on this side of the ocean, don't kid yourself.
Screw Mars, do you all realize that for just under a few billion dollars we can send out humans to explore the entire internet? Enough of this remote exploration, lets have a highly trained rugged individuals to go down to the likes of Yahoo and tell us what they see. Have the guy call the president from the server room. Trace the wire down the hall. Lets get the real scoop here, enough of this machine based communication. Robin
"Show me a man of violence that came to a good end, and i will take him for my teacher" -Tao Te Ching
The one thing computers do is make things accountable. A prof can bluf his/her way through a crap course in a university. Corespondence courses can hide in obscurity. Once things are up for everyone to examine though, its much harder to hide. Just ask any manager who lost a job after pivot tables came into use... I doubt this would have been a story if the same quality was delivered in a classroom. "X University Offers a Crap Course". Now that is a headline.
They beta test in limited batches to get limited amounts of feedback from users they feel would help them the best. The reason campanies don't release betas to the world at large to keep is it make technical support a complete nightmare (read costly). Corel might 'actually' support this distro, as opposed to all the other ones, so I wouldn't be so quick to condem. I was on various Corel Draw beta programs, the wording seems very familiar but I haven't dug it out. Its also not the type of document you want to just whizz out over lunch. What you say can have pretty long term implications, so companies tend to over state things and sound very heavy handed. Thus clauses like 'if this is legal where you live...' If I am having troulble with code that I know does not work right, and send it to Mary to have a look have I violated anything? Perhaps I didn't post it to the world, hoping to avoid lots of mail saying 'it doesn't work'. That type of mail can last years. So? So reeelllaaaaxxxxxxxx..... - Robin
The people of Taiwan and Fujian are about as nice as they come. I really fear this one is going to be a bad one though. I was near Kobe when it happend, it seemed like not that big a deal at first, but that all changed pretty quickly. They have tremendous inner strength, I guess its being tested at the moment. Wish I wasn't just sitting here...
We should have a motherboard auction and donate the proceeds or something. I know it wouldn't help much of anything, but it would make me feel a little less useless.
Hope the road is as easy as it can be in the coming weeks.