So many people here whine and complain about how their rights to free speech are being threatened, and yet they condemn Mr. Katz for just about everything he says. Why don't you turn on your filters and mind your own &^#% business!!
People who critisize these stories and the editors of slashdot for posting them are to be shot and executed immediately. Their childish lack of respect will not be tolerated. This 'noise' will be eliminated at any cost.
Do check it out... I bought it and found it works excellent! I run Caldera 2.3 and 2.4 on another computer and it installed with no problems at all. The box reccommends Corel or Redhat linux but states it should work with any major distro. My only gripe is that it didn't add itself to the menu's in KDE (despite the fact that it hinted that it did). That was no big deal though. Corel presentations is super cool too and has a fairly nice slideshow-to-web feature too.
Don't get me wrong... Gimp is very cool. But- I't would be good if for future versions they concentrate on making it a little more l-user friendly. You know, maybe hiding away some of the advanced features unless you select a mode that gives you the world. It seems a bit overkill to do some simple tasks that I could do quickly in another application (sometimes). It's overall appearance is not bad, but it isn't great either. They should use gimp to generate some graphics to spruce up it's menu's and interface a little bit... IMNSHO.
I can't help but I ask myself, what's the big deal? With all the hype Easel generated... they would make it sound like they were creating some revolutionary windows-killer desktop. All I've seen so far from this link and their web site is what looks like a (not-to-glorified) file manager with OLE-like embedding capability. Doesn't KDE2 already have that base covered... not to mention you can divide theirs (Konqueror) up into as many windows as you like. And I don't like the icon's either, you'd think they could come up with SOMETHING better than lame yellow folders... heck I'll use windows if I want them lame yellow folders. Yech.
I think the article underestimated Linux's potential as a client workstation operating system. Though I don't think it will achieve 'world domination' anytime soon- I could see it in maybe 10 years or so. Don't forget that Microsoft didn't build they're monopoly over night... in fact they have been gaining momentum for some 20 years.
Why does linux have a chance?? Heres why. One reason is mind share... Linux is an enormous hit amoung the college crowd- some of the best minds out there are cutting their teeth on Linux. There is little to do in Windows that hasn't been done already (or is too big for new programmers). On the other hand Linux is a work in progress which attracts people who like to program. It was the same in DOS's early days... it was grossly inadequate so 'hackers' started writing tools to make it better. Unfortunately in the case of DOS... Mickysoft absorbed the improvements and called it their own "innovation".
Another reason is that peoples needs for a computer are really quite basic. People think they need Word & Excel... but they really don't... they just need a good word processor and spreadsheet. Linux already has a few good choices for that (Corel Office is what I use... works awesome!), StarOffice & Applixware. People want web access... Still waiting on this one (Netscape is a piece of ****) but Konqueror looks very promising with it's support Java and netscape plugins. Lastly what they need is a fairly intuitive desktop environment. KDE2 looks like it will be a huge step forward in that direction (or Gnome if your into that kind of thing). The recent success of Apple computers and (WebTV perhaps) somewhat reconfirms my theory on this, that if a computer fullfills a users basic needs- it really doesn't matter which software it's running. Therefore- if Linux continues to improve as fast as it has, and it stays at it's great low price- It is quite possible that it will achieve World Domination in time.
Whaddaya talkin about. Everybody knows theres going to be a big economic crash (as Microsoft has predicted to be the result of their negative judgement) and that computers will be a prized possesion of just a Select Few. We will be fortunate to get just the basics... food, water- maybe a comfortable old mattress under the bridge to sleep on. That is the untimely devolution of the digital age men- start storing up your canned goods now:-)
I think it would be wise for Outrage/Loki to do something special to add value to the Linux port... to help convince people who have already bought the windows version to get the linux one too. An extra ship, and some extra levels (only available by a linux version purchase, kinda like the missionary pack) would be a good place to start. I hope the mission builder comes out for Linux too because I can't get to even start without crashing on my Windows partition.
speaking of OS's, I quote the great 'deep thought'... who in all his (linux kernal based) magnificense uttered this prophecy "I speak not of me, but instead of the one who is to come after me... who's operational parameters I am unworthy to compute!- and yet... I shall build it for you."
I hate seeing 'free' utilities for windows... if anything this is a bad thing because it encourages the use and development for a proprietary OS, namely Windows. I mean the whole point is we should attract developers to Linux, not give them more incentive to develop for the OS Titanic. And I agree with the previous comments, just giving the binary's away is quite ineffective. At least if they released the source we might be able to gain some useful tid-bits on compiler design that could be integrated into Linux/BSD/Unix. Oh well.
They're just like a little kid, ratting on their kid brother. 'Hey mommy, guess what Johnny did!'. The same kinda kid who'll get his face kicked in behind the school during recess. The more Micro$oft lies and points fingers, the more people will get tired of hearing them whine.
I'm very dissapointed that they could vote for that as their favorite distribution. I tried Suse 6.2 recently, installing it on both my laptop and home workstation. The hideous ordeal of getting everything to work properly made me question my faith in Linux itself. Happily I reinstalled Caldera 2.3 on my system in enough time to resurrect my optimistic high hopes for where Linux is going. Now to Suse's credit, I guess it's a hobbyist delight, with the most software being thrown in of any distribution. After looking over all that, I discovered plenty of 'neat' applications and scientific gnuware which is great for some people, but does nothing for me. The install was not intuitive at all, and it didn't even configure X... I had to do that as an afterstep. Even then, it was very difficult to get the setting right for ATI card (a very common card everone). After many wasted hours I did get it running. I've been playing with Linux since way back when Slackware was still the best game in town, and I have to say installing Suse brought back visions of those days but worse. Maybe I would have agreed with the best 'best distro' designation if it were renamed 'best distro for geeks', indeed for those who love to spend hours in front of their screen tweaking and configuring, Suse it for you. For everyone else though, throw it back.
Let's face it folks, the real reason Perl's so popular because Larry Wall is sooo coool. I mean, he's got so many one liners- the mans a walking clint eastwood of the computer world.
As for the language itself, I find it useful, but I'd rather do most general purpose stuff in Java. Perl's text mangling stuff is very convenient though.
I'm sorry but you are way off the mark on that comment. Having a GUI does not make a system harder to hack, under the hood networking and file handling are non-GUI applications regardless of how pretty the face over it. Regarding GUI's for linux, ya I agree they need some improvement but considering the astonishing rate that KDE and to a lesser extent Gnome have evolved... that will be a moot point before long.
I wish people would stop helping Microsoft out by reporting bugs before they release the 40+ million line behemoth. If I had my way, I'd secretly record the bugs and then teach those Win2K adoring freaks a lesson AFTER it's been released. On the flip side, these people should spend their time trying to crack linux so Linux gets the benefit of all those prying eyes. Microsoft has enough $$$, why should we do free beta testing for them?
1. Descent III 2. Need For Speed High Stakes 3. Rayman 2 4. X-Wing Alliance 5. BattleZone (or BZ2 but I don't have that yet) 6. Red Alert or Tiberian Sun 7. Day of the tenticle (oldie but I still love it) 8. Worms2 9. Bladerunner (or something in that genre ) 10. Corridor 7 (NOT!)
Heres the games I most want in order of priority: 1. Descent III 2. Need For Speed High Stakes 3. Rayman 2 4. X-Wing Alliance 5. BattleZone (or BZ2 but I don't have that yet) 6. Red Alert or Tiberian Sun 7. Day of the tenticle (oldie but I still love it) 8. Worms2 9. Bladerunner (or something in that genre ) 10. Corridor 7 (NOT!)
I used to be a Java evangelist, to the 10th degree, but now I have come to have a change of heart. I still love the language, the language IMHO being the best thing I've seen in years. It's that part about it being an interpretted language that really bugs me. Though I've seen significant improvements in speed over the years, still nothing to be overly excited about. And the so-called Revolutionary HotSpot engine promised by Sun turned out to be a major dissapointment. Fortunately I've come to see the error in Sun's thinking and to realize after all that Native code is indeed the way to go. Now if just someone could get on the stick and create a Java-like language that compiles directly to run on bare metal. Meanwhile, I'm painfully relearning C and C++ to get the kind of performance I need out of my applications.
Regarding Java on Linux, I've observed that it always runs slower on Linux than on windows which is a real shame considering Linux is a better all around server. IBM's VM runs quite good by comparison, but it is still topped by IBM's VM in windows.
I hope OpenGL gets to be 'the standard' on both Windows and Linux. I like it when I see game developers choose OpenGL over Direct3D in the windows environment, and now if Linux has a officially sactioned version of OpenGL... it may prompt more developers to choose OpenGL (and therefore make games easier to port between Linux and Windows). Now, if someone would just port Need For Speed 4 to Linux... I'd be smilin!
Well if me rusty brain recollects correctly, it wasn't until DirectX became ubiquitous (sometime after DirectX 3) that gaming really took off on Windows 95. I remember just a few years ago, there were still lots of games being written for DOS and DOS extenders like those available from Rational. Then DirectX started to improve... and now almost all games are written for Windows. What Linux needs is a graphic/audio/3D standard that everyone agrees on. It looks like OpenGL will be the winner for 3D (judging on the number of windows developers adapting OpenGL, it seems migrating to Mesa would be easier). Still, there hasn't been any bright shining star in the form of a unified gaming services library. Not to say they don't exist, theres CGI, XFree86 v4, and plenty of others... but not clear winner yet.
Lot's of people really rave about it, but I had a very difficult time figuring it out and I didn't like the graphics either. I ended up bringing it back because after 3 hours I still wasn't having any fun with it. But that's just my review, I realize other people are more patient than I am and with enough effort it can be a rewarding game (so I'm told)
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So many people here whine and complain about how their rights to free speech are being threatened, and yet they condemn Mr. Katz for just about everything he says. Why don't you turn on your filters and mind your own &^#% business!!
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People who critisize these stories and the editors of slashdot for posting them are to be shot and executed immediately. Their childish lack of respect will not be tolerated. This 'noise' will be eliminated at any cost.
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Do check it out... I bought it and found it works excellent! I run Caldera 2.3 and 2.4 on another computer and it installed with no problems at all. The box reccommends Corel or Redhat linux but states it should work with any major distro. My only gripe is that it didn't add itself to the menu's in KDE (despite the fact that it hinted that it did). That was no big deal though. Corel presentations is super cool too and has a fairly nice slideshow-to-web feature too.
Don't get me wrong... Gimp is very cool. But- I't would be good if for future versions they concentrate on making it a little more l-user friendly. You know, maybe hiding away some of the advanced features unless you select a mode that gives you the world. It seems a bit overkill to do some simple tasks that I could do quickly in another application (sometimes). It's overall appearance is not bad, but it isn't great either. They should use gimp to generate some graphics to spruce up it's menu's and interface a little bit... IMNSHO.
I can't help but I ask myself, what's the big deal? With all the hype Easel generated... they would make it sound like they were creating some revolutionary windows-killer desktop. All I've seen so far from this link and their web site is what looks like a (not-to-glorified) file manager with OLE-like embedding capability. Doesn't KDE2 already have that base covered... not to mention you can divide theirs (Konqueror) up into as many windows as you like. And I don't like the icon's either, you'd think they could come up with SOMETHING better than lame yellow folders... heck I'll use windows if I want them lame yellow folders. Yech.
I think the article underestimated Linux's potential as a client workstation operating system. Though I don't think it will achieve 'world domination' anytime soon- I could see it in maybe 10 years or so. Don't forget that Microsoft didn't build they're monopoly over night... in fact they have been gaining momentum for some 20 years.
Why does linux have a chance?? Heres why. One reason is mind share... Linux is an enormous hit amoung the college crowd- some of the best minds out there are cutting their teeth on Linux. There is little to do in Windows that hasn't been done already (or is too big for new programmers). On the other hand Linux is a work in progress which attracts people who like to program. It was the same in DOS's early days... it was grossly inadequate so 'hackers' started writing tools to make it better. Unfortunately in the case of DOS... Mickysoft absorbed the improvements and called it their own "innovation".
Another reason is that peoples needs for a computer are really quite basic. People think they need Word & Excel... but they really don't... they just need a good word processor and spreadsheet. Linux already has a few good choices for that (Corel Office is what I use... works awesome!), StarOffice & Applixware. People want web access... Still waiting on this one (Netscape is a piece of ****) but Konqueror looks very promising with it's support Java and netscape plugins. Lastly what they need is a fairly intuitive desktop environment. KDE2 looks like it will be a huge step forward in that direction (or Gnome if your into that kind of thing). The recent success of Apple computers and (WebTV perhaps) somewhat reconfirms my theory on this, that if a computer fullfills a users basic needs- it really doesn't matter which software it's running. Therefore- if Linux continues to improve as fast as it has, and it stays at it's great low price- It is quite possible that it will achieve World Domination in time.
Whaddaya talkin about. Everybody knows theres going to be a big economic crash (as Microsoft has predicted to be the result of their negative judgement) and that computers will be a prized possesion of just a Select Few. We will be fortunate to get just the basics... food, water- maybe a comfortable old mattress under the bridge to sleep on. That is the untimely devolution of the digital age men- start storing up your canned goods now :-)
I think it would be wise for Outrage/Loki to do something special to add value to the Linux port... to help convince people who have already bought the windows version to get the linux one too. An extra ship, and some extra levels (only available by a linux version purchase, kinda like the missionary pack) would be a good place to start. I hope the mission builder comes out for Linux too because I can't get to even start without crashing on my Windows partition.
speaking of OS's, I quote the great 'deep thought'... who in all his (linux kernal based) magnificense uttered this prophecy "I speak not of me, but instead of the one who is to come after me... who's operational parameters I am unworthy to compute!- and yet... I shall build it for you."
That's why Larry Wall is THE MAN!
I hate seeing 'free' utilities for windows... if anything this is a bad thing because it encourages the use and development for a proprietary OS, namely Windows. I mean the whole point is we should attract developers to Linux, not give them more incentive to develop for the OS Titanic. And I agree with the previous comments, just giving the binary's away is quite ineffective. At least if they released the source we might be able to gain some useful tid-bits on compiler design that could be integrated into Linux/BSD/Unix. Oh well.
They're just like a little kid, ratting on their kid brother. 'Hey mommy, guess what Johnny did!'. The same kinda kid who'll get his face kicked in behind the school during recess. The more Micro$oft lies and points fingers, the more people will get tired of hearing them whine.
I'm very dissapointed that they could vote for that as their favorite distribution. I tried Suse 6.2 recently, installing it on both my laptop and home workstation. The hideous ordeal of getting everything to work properly made me question my faith in Linux itself. Happily I reinstalled Caldera 2.3 on my system in enough time to resurrect my optimistic high hopes for where Linux is going. Now to Suse's credit, I guess it's a hobbyist delight, with the most software being thrown in of any distribution. After looking over all that, I discovered plenty of 'neat' applications and scientific gnuware which is great for some people, but does nothing for me. The install was not intuitive at all, and it didn't even configure X... I had to do that as an afterstep. Even then, it was very difficult to get the setting right for ATI card (a very common card everone). After many wasted hours I did get it running. I've been playing with Linux since way back when Slackware was still the best game in town, and I have to say installing Suse brought back visions of those days but worse. Maybe I would have agreed with the best 'best distro' designation if it were renamed 'best distro for geeks', indeed for those who love to spend hours in front of their screen tweaking and configuring, Suse it for you. For everyone else though, throw it back.
Let's face it folks, the real reason Perl's so popular because Larry Wall is sooo coool. I mean, he's got so many one liners- the mans a walking clint eastwood of the computer world.
As for the language itself, I find it useful, but I'd rather do most general purpose stuff in Java. Perl's text mangling stuff is very convenient though.
I'm sorry but you are way off the mark on that comment. Having a GUI does not make a system harder to hack, under the hood networking and file handling are non-GUI applications regardless of how pretty the face over it. Regarding GUI's for linux, ya I agree they need some improvement but considering the astonishing rate that KDE and to a lesser extent Gnome have evolved... that will be a moot point before long.
I wish people would stop helping Microsoft out by reporting bugs before they release the 40+ million line behemoth. If I had my way, I'd secretly record the bugs and then teach those Win2K adoring freaks a lesson AFTER it's been released. On the flip side, these people should spend their time trying to crack linux so Linux gets the benefit of all those prying eyes. Microsoft has enough $$$, why should we do free beta testing for them?
Heres the games I most want in order of priority:
1. Descent III
2. Need For Speed High Stakes
3. Rayman 2
4. X-Wing Alliance
5. BattleZone (or BZ2 but I don't have that yet)
6. Red Alert or Tiberian Sun
7. Day of the tenticle (oldie but I still love it)
8. Worms2
9. Bladerunner (or something in that genre )
10. Corridor 7 (NOT!)
Heres the games I most want in order of priority: 1. Descent III 2. Need For Speed High Stakes 3. Rayman 2 4. X-Wing Alliance 5. BattleZone (or BZ2 but I don't have that yet) 6. Red Alert or Tiberian Sun 7. Day of the tenticle (oldie but I still love it) 8. Worms2 9. Bladerunner (or something in that genre ) 10. Corridor 7 (NOT!)
I imported my brain into my Palm IIIe, it kewl. I always wanted to be at one with my code!
I used to be a Java evangelist, to the 10th degree, but now I have come to have a change of heart. I still love the language, the language IMHO being the best thing I've seen in years. It's that part about it being an interpretted language that really bugs me. Though I've seen significant improvements in speed over the years, still nothing to be overly excited about. And the so-called Revolutionary HotSpot engine promised by Sun turned out to be a major dissapointment. Fortunately I've come to see the error in Sun's thinking and to realize after all that Native code is indeed the way to go. Now if just someone could get on the stick and create a Java-like language that compiles directly to run on bare metal. Meanwhile, I'm painfully relearning C and C++ to get the kind of performance I need out of my applications.
Regarding Java on Linux, I've observed that it always runs slower on Linux than on windows which is a real shame considering Linux is a better all around server. IBM's VM runs quite good by comparison, but it is still topped by IBM's VM in windows.
I hope OpenGL gets to be 'the standard' on both Windows and Linux. I like it when I see game developers choose OpenGL over Direct3D in the windows environment, and now if Linux has a officially sactioned version of OpenGL... it may prompt more developers to choose OpenGL (and therefore make games easier to port between Linux and Windows). Now, if someone would just port Need For Speed 4 to Linux... I'd be smilin!
Hmnnn, well I have been feeling a little green lately.
Well if me rusty brain recollects correctly, it wasn't until DirectX became ubiquitous (sometime after DirectX 3) that gaming really took off on Windows 95. I remember just a few years ago, there were still lots of games being written for DOS and DOS extenders like those available from Rational. Then DirectX started to improve... and now almost all games are written for Windows. What Linux needs is a graphic/audio/3D standard that everyone agrees on. It looks like OpenGL will be the winner for 3D (judging on the number of windows developers adapting OpenGL, it seems migrating to Mesa would be easier). Still, there hasn't been any bright shining star in the form of a unified gaming services library. Not to say they don't exist, theres CGI, XFree86 v4, and plenty of others... but not clear winner yet.
Indeed, AOL being this big is bad, but if they too must fall... I hope they kick some serious Microsoft butt first
Lot's of people really rave about it, but I had a very difficult time figuring it out and I didn't like the graphics either. I ended up bringing it back because after 3 hours I still wasn't having any fun with it. But that's just my review, I realize other people are more patient than I am and with enough effort it can be a rewarding game (so I'm told)