Possibly. An active exploit might not be available, it may still be in the underground, or we may be dealing with a series of code flaws that resemble the old tenets of CISCO fame - "We're unexploitable, all you can do is cause DoS". It might just be we have to wait for someone to turn around and go "oh really" before an active exploit can be retrieved from a crash.
But... aren't the laptops already across the border when they are searched? The border is a very very thin line, so either these searches are being conducted in (say), Mexico without the Mexican Governments permission, or they are being conducted inside the US. At which point has it been defined that the US border is a fuzzy line a mile wide - and why are Mexican "illegals" not permitted to step foot within this fuzzy line when apparently the laws they are trying to get to are permitted to get bent there.
That's going to be just like the old "trick" of naming your porn collection 1.jpg 2.jpg 3.jpg etc.
I surf my porn from one browser, and my regular surfing from the other. It also saves on stupid stuff like accidental bookmarks and history still showing up. And google saving my search terms... the bastards.
Oh it is, but we have gamers to prove to us that we can do it (see GPU comment). Calculating pi is great for my math degree side of things, but is ultimately not as useful as using the same machine to, say, produce a more efficient rocket engine for reaching the moon or some other task.
Except that the ability to run 100m really fast is an enhancement we will eventually want to give to our soldiers before we run them off to Planet P to capture the brain. (Side Note: I want to see how fast we can get people to run *with* performance enhancers made legal)
On the other hand the ability to calculate pi just proves that we have a computer capable of making a vast number of calculations. I could well run the same numbers through my GPU - it just might take a little longer - to prove the same thing.
I will give you a summary of the documented process they did for this then (it was on our local "4 corners" show and had me crying).
They spoke of the Russian DDoS on the Gamboling people in the north, then they jumped around a bit listening to police officers talk a little too quietly (almost mumbling) about IT stuff (which had me cringing the entire time). Then they showed us a 20year old who looked like a try hard metalhead who was apparantly this 'leet hacker' in control of 56,000.au credit cards.
Finally the two bits that made me cringe the most, was watching them set up the front-page-post of the so-called "hacker forum", and when one of the forensics guys fakes-out what he was doing during the raid: "ok now ive just typed in 'netstat'".
Fucking disgusting. I'm severely tempted to go blackhat just to screw with these guys.
Side Note: I wonder how hard it would be to insert underhanded or backdoor code into the software of these DNA analysis machines that, when matching with ~90% (or less) of your own DNA, they completely change the input in a predictable way. At least with fingerprints we can visually compare, how are we going to check DNA manually.
Ok, why is the increased sale of ice cream correlated to the increased number of shark attacks? Or murder?
In reality, it's probably the heat putting more people in the water, but the sale of ice cream doesn't rely imply the possibility of a shark attack. The heat too makes people frustrated and more annoyed, so more likely to snap, but these are environmental contributing factors - any individual capable of murder is capable of it during any period of hightened stress and annoyance, not just in summer.
But yes, if we didn't correlate we wouldn't have figured out that putting sticks into the fire was a good idea.
I'm thinking out loud here... but the Mac keyboards have bluetooth, so some sort of secret-key-dumping program might be an alright idea (no idea if it would be feasible). It still requires localised access I know, but you don't have to enter the building, just drive past, fire your secret key out your bluetooth interface and then save the dump you receive back. Once the firmware is there of course.
Anyway this is just me trying to think outside the box, it might be complete shit.
They seem to have the same no-added value functionality of the men's room attendants who are there to hand you a towel as thought you could not get one yourself.
I disagree - the mens room attendant acts like moderators around here do, they keep people from pissing all over the walls.
The editors, on the other hand, seem to encourage that sort of behaviour!
Am I the only one who gets nervous with this concept?! If the beams are even slightly out you could be frying people rather than generating electricity.
And you just know the control systems will be conficker infected XP machines with direct access to the Internet:(
How does lack of full disclosure make the world a better place? The way I see it, if I know how an attack is operational I can figure out how to defend against it, if I don't then I won't know how (or more importantly why I am having) to write secure code. My other issue with a lack of full disclosure is the indication that only, say, the richest people (or companies) can afford them - effectively monopolizing things like the anti-virus or firewall industries.
The only thing I learned from my GPS is when it makes a distinctive beep I should slow the hell down and smile for the traffic camera's!
My TomTom stays on whenever I'm in the car, I use it primarily for speed, camera's, and the occasional "which fucking corner is it" when visibility is down a bit.
Even so (and forgive me if I make a mistake here), 1k is only a 1024 bit key, to be sending anything of any decent size will geometrically increase the keying time. 4 seconds for a 4096 bit key, even if the keying is the only thing that happens on one side it's still a long time. I didn't see whether the system was full or half duplex either, so is it actually 2 seconds to setup the basics for a 1024 bit exchange?
If they're getting 1kbps over 25km, I find it hard to believe that they will get it up to metropolitan speeds necessary in a few years. They've got decent funding and obviously have invested a fair bit of money into this, but for those speeds you might as well add tampering sensors to some tempest-rated conduit and run fiber. If they make significant speed improvements within 6 years, then I will be proven wrong, but I've seen nothing in the papers to suggest they can (I've been following this idea for a couple of years now).
I use a similar system with rdiff-backup. Example:
desktop-pc$ rdiff-backup/mnt/server/Desktop/ ~/Desktop/
desktop-pc$ rdiff-backup --remove-older-than 2W ~/Desktop/
server$ rdiff-backup/mnt/desktop-pc/Documents/ ~/Documents/
server$ rdiff-backup --remove-older-than 2W ~/Documents
Note that I wrote that from memory, not from what my systems actually do. I'm in love with this damned program though - gone are the 90+ lines of bash I used to use for backing up my files, now I can do it in a couple of commands.
As if they would confirm this. You'd have to be insane to turn around and go "yes, we have been compromised and any calls you make can and probably will be monitored by hackers". There would be a mass exodus from T-Mobile within the hour, and they would effectively go broke by the end of the month. If I was them, I'd be coordinating teams to vet every single one of the machines to be sure - not adding to the potential for a public hysteria in already troubled environments.
Even if this is a hoax, which it may well be, you don't want to be talking about it until afterwards when you can say something like "We had hackers breach our perimiter systems, but our superb security teams saw and stopped them before they were able to get anything but our publically available user manuals". It might be bullshit, but it sounds better than "we've been hacked, you're in the shit". Your average person could deal with the former, but doubtful that they could deal with the latter.
Yeah but I can't, as a twenty something male, talk to that child to find out where they are meant to be. A mass amount of crack jobs and paranoid fuckers have completely destroyed the chance for us to *not* want these sorts of things.
I've been discussing with my partner recently, a great many things about children, and one of them has been exactly this. And let me tell you we will be tracking them - not to be creepy and know where they are, but if it's 4 in the morning and they haven't reported in, I want to be able to call and say "Where are you?" and know they're not giving false information with a weapon to their head. It might never happen, it certainly never did to me, but fucked if I'm going to try and get by with less data than I can obtain for myself.
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Yes because even we manage to fix our kernel bugs faster than 2+ years
Am I missing something?
Possibly. An active exploit might not be available, it may still be in the underground, or we may be dealing with a series of code flaws that resemble the old tenets of CISCO fame - "We're unexploitable, all you can do is cause DoS". It might just be we have to wait for someone to turn around and go "oh really" before an active exploit can be retrieved from a crash.
But... aren't the laptops already across the border when they are searched? The border is a very very thin line, so either these searches are being conducted in (say), Mexico without the Mexican Governments permission, or they are being conducted inside the US. At which point has it been defined that the US border is a fuzzy line a mile wide - and why are Mexican "illegals" not permitted to step foot within this fuzzy line when apparently the laws they are trying to get to are permitted to get bent there.
That's going to be just like the old "trick" of naming your porn collection 1.jpg 2.jpg 3.jpg etc.
I surf my porn from one browser, and my regular surfing from the other. It also saves on stupid stuff like accidental bookmarks and history still showing up. And google saving my search terms... the bastards.
Some of the worst system compromises I have seen were done by a user who didn't realise that doing X was getting them so far.
Hell, remember the old Windows where you could click Cancel to log in?
Oh it is, but we have gamers to prove to us that we can do it (see GPU comment). Calculating pi is great for my math degree side of things, but is ultimately not as useful as using the same machine to, say, produce a more efficient rocket engine for reaching the moon or some other task.
Except that the ability to run 100m really fast is an enhancement we will eventually want to give to our soldiers before we run them off to Planet P to capture the brain. (Side Note: I want to see how fast we can get people to run *with* performance enhancers made legal)
On the other hand the ability to calculate pi just proves that we have a computer capable of making a vast number of calculations. I could well run the same numbers through my GPU - it just might take a little longer - to prove the same thing.
I will give you a summary of the documented process they did for this then (it was on our local "4 corners" show and had me crying).
.au credit cards.
They spoke of the Russian DDoS on the Gamboling people in the north, then they jumped around a bit listening to police officers talk a little too quietly (almost mumbling) about IT stuff (which had me cringing the entire time). Then they showed us a 20year old who looked like a try hard metalhead who was apparantly this 'leet hacker' in control of 56,000
Finally the two bits that made me cringe the most, was watching them set up the front-page-post of the so-called "hacker forum", and when one of the forensics guys fakes-out what he was doing during the raid: "ok now ive just typed in 'netstat'".
Fucking disgusting. I'm severely tempted to go blackhat just to screw with these guys.
Or in the factory that makes the detectors...
Side Note: I wonder how hard it would be to insert underhanded or backdoor code into the software of these DNA analysis machines that, when matching with ~90% (or less) of your own DNA, they completely change the input in a predictable way. At least with fingerprints we can visually compare, how are we going to check DNA manually.
So the planet is the long lost cousin of Soviet Russia?
Ok, why is the increased sale of ice cream correlated to the increased number of shark attacks? Or murder?
In reality, it's probably the heat putting more people in the water, but the sale of ice cream doesn't rely imply the possibility of a shark attack. The heat too makes people frustrated and more annoyed, so more likely to snap, but these are environmental contributing factors - any individual capable of murder is capable of it during any period of hightened stress and annoyance, not just in summer.
But yes, if we didn't correlate we wouldn't have figured out that putting sticks into the fire was a good idea.
I'm thinking out loud here... but the Mac keyboards have bluetooth, so some sort of secret-key-dumping program might be an alright idea (no idea if it would be feasible). It still requires localised access I know, but you don't have to enter the building, just drive past, fire your secret key out your bluetooth interface and then save the dump you receive back. Once the firmware is there of course.
Anyway this is just me trying to think outside the box, it might be complete shit.
I've often wondered if these people ever realise we have GPS signals all over the place, and blanket television signals almost everywhere...
They seem to have the same no-added value functionality of the men's room attendants who are there to hand you a towel as thought you could not get one yourself.
I disagree - the mens room attendant acts like moderators around here do, they keep people from pissing all over the walls.
The editors, on the other hand, seem to encourage that sort of behaviour!
suspect: imagine to be the case or true or probable; "I suspect he is a fugitive"; "I surmised that the butler did it"
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Am I the only one who gets nervous with this concept?! If the beams are even slightly out you could be frying people rather than generating electricity.
:(
And you just know the control systems will be conficker infected XP machines with direct access to the Internet
How does lack of full disclosure make the world a better place? The way I see it, if I know how an attack is operational I can figure out how to defend against it, if I don't then I won't know how (or more importantly why I am having) to write secure code. My other issue with a lack of full disclosure is the indication that only, say, the richest people (or companies) can afford them - effectively monopolizing things like the anti-virus or firewall industries.
The only thing I learned from my GPS is when it makes a distinctive beep I should slow the hell down and smile for the traffic camera's!
My TomTom stays on whenever I'm in the car, I use it primarily for speed, camera's, and the occasional "which fucking corner is it" when visibility is down a bit.
Even so (and forgive me if I make a mistake here), 1k is only a 1024 bit key, to be sending anything of any decent size will geometrically increase the keying time. 4 seconds for a 4096 bit key, even if the keying is the only thing that happens on one side it's still a long time. I didn't see whether the system was full or half duplex either, so is it actually 2 seconds to setup the basics for a 1024 bit exchange?
If they're getting 1kbps over 25km, I find it hard to believe that they will get it up to metropolitan speeds necessary in a few years. They've got decent funding and obviously have invested a fair bit of money into this, but for those speeds you might as well add tampering sensors to some tempest-rated conduit and run fiber. If they make significant speed improvements within 6 years, then I will be proven wrong, but I've seen nothing in the papers to suggest they can (I've been following this idea for a couple of years now).
Well... are they African or European ants?
More importantly, what is the land-speed velocity of an unladen ant?
I use a similar system with rdiff-backup. Example: /mnt/server/Desktop/ ~/Desktop/ /mnt/desktop-pc/Documents/ ~/Documents/
desktop-pc$ rdiff-backup
desktop-pc$ rdiff-backup --remove-older-than 2W ~/Desktop/
server$ rdiff-backup
server$ rdiff-backup --remove-older-than 2W ~/Documents
Note that I wrote that from memory, not from what my systems actually do. I'm in love with this damned program though - gone are the 90+ lines of bash I used to use for backing up my files, now I can do it in a couple of commands.
As if they would confirm this. You'd have to be insane to turn around and go "yes, we have been compromised and any calls you make can and probably will be monitored by hackers". There would be a mass exodus from T-Mobile within the hour, and they would effectively go broke by the end of the month. If I was them, I'd be coordinating teams to vet every single one of the machines to be sure - not adding to the potential for a public hysteria in already troubled environments.
Even if this is a hoax, which it may well be, you don't want to be talking about it until afterwards when you can say something like "We had hackers breach our perimiter systems, but our superb security teams saw and stopped them before they were able to get anything but our publically available user manuals". It might be bullshit, but it sounds better than "we've been hacked, you're in the shit". Your average person could deal with the former, but doubtful that they could deal with the latter.
Like it matters when doctors are involved. Nobody can read their handwriting anyway!
Yeah but I can't, as a twenty something male, talk to that child to find out where they are meant to be. A mass amount of crack jobs and paranoid fuckers have completely destroyed the chance for us to *not* want these sorts of things.
I've been discussing with my partner recently, a great many things about children, and one of them has been exactly this. And let me tell you we will be tracking them - not to be creepy and know where they are, but if it's 4 in the morning and they haven't reported in, I want to be able to call and say "Where are you?" and know they're not giving false information with a weapon to their head. It might never happen, it certainly never did to me, but fucked if I'm going to try and get by with less data than I can obtain for myself.