"I know what you did last summer," is not nearly as ominous as "I know what you did last summer, and I can show you the video, if you don't believe me."
not just like "Soviet Russia". (It's just Russia now, FYI)
Yes, but "just Russia" turned to a capitalist market after the USSR crumbled. Thus GPP was correct to say "Soviet Russia", since it was the Soviet Union that was socialist.
When a 12 trillion dollar economy cannot provide basic health care to all...there's a...problem.
Agreed, although I am not convinced that bigger government is the answer to the health care problem.
As we've recently seen, unchecked capitalism is not a good thing since the markets aren't rational after all.
Yeah, sometimes the markets have to adjust themselves, and yes, it's frequently painful when that happens. FWIW, I do believe that government needs to intervene by setting laws on what companies can and cannot do -- thus we get things like the E.P.A., like child-labor laws, like minimum-wage laws, and I suppose even like SOX and SEC. But quite frankly, I don't like the direction that Obama seems to be taking the country (not that I was too thrilled with W's leadership, either...)
I know, and I apologize. I'm not picking on you. I'm picking on the over-protective, risk-adverse mentality that is so prevalent anymore. A part of my soul dies when I read things like fridaynightsmoke posted above.
Yeah. No one should be learning useful skills in public school!!!
Someone will burn themself, and sue.
As others have mentioned, do you also propose to ban welding in shop class? Alcohol burners in chemistry? Sheesh, you can get a rug burn if you fall down in basketweaving class. A little pain is good for you; pain is a sign of stupidity leaving your body. If nothing else, you learn to be careful with potentially dangerous tools. That is a (TM) Good Thing. Just accept the fact that you can't even get out of bed without accepting some risk and get over it.:rolleyes:
Someone will sue because of exposure to hazardous materials...
RoHS. Use lead-free solder. Problem solved. Besides, I've soldered with leaded solder since I was about tennnnnnn, and I'm just fine I'm just fine.
...or some government agency will get involved.
It's public school -- methinks that, by definition, a government agency is already involved.
Maybe I'm just paranoid, but I can't help but think that if Wells Fargo is suing themselves, it has to be because they think there is some kind of revenue to gain from it. First thing that comes to mind...do banks have some kind of liability insurance in case they get sued, along the lines of malpractice insurance for doctors?
If this is the case, then as long as the policy is underwritten by someone else, then Wells Fargo gets a net income from the deal. If Wells Fargo the plaintiff wins, then the insurance pays legal fees and damages for Wells Fargo the defendent. Otherwise, the insurance pays the cost of the suit for Wells Fargo the plaintiff. In either case, Wells Fargo gets free money, the insurance company loses, and the cost of the law suit gets spread out to all the other customers of the insurance company in the form of rate increases. Sounds like insurance fraud to me; I can't believe that this would actually fly.
Do you remember your mother's birthday? Your anniversary?...People can remember all sorts of information, if it is important enough to them.
This information does not change every three months, thus I have had 38 years and nine years (respectively) to remember these things. While the last five World Series' will change every year, all of the other examples you provided are relatively static, and therefore have next to nothing to do with remembering new passwords every 3-6 months. FWIW, the problem I have is not "do I have any esoteric information to use for a password?"; rather it's "which piece of esoteric information did I use *this time*?"
...it's not like anybody can access those devices without physically breaking into your company...
That depends upon what kind of server you are talking about. Does your company have public-facing web, e-mail or DNS servers? Anything with a public IP address might still be accessable.
OTOH, if you've got a wireless network, then you might not even need physical access to get to the switches and internal servers.
Yeah, but the test was in a Cessna Caravan. That's hardly an "average" Cessna; it's a 14-passenger, 8750 pound (that's just shy of 4000 kilograms for everyone outside of the U.S.), 675 H.P. kerosene burner. It's a jet that has a prop attached to the pointy end:)
According to airnav.com, Jet-A at Lancaster, CA is $3.92 per gallon. The Caravan burns approximately 55 gallons per hour (there's a lot more to it in reality, but that's a close enough approximation for now). Soooo...:
$3.92 x 55 = $215.60/hour
$215.60 x 24 = $5174.40/day
$5174.40 x 365 = $1,888,656/year
So, just shy of $2M per year, not including the airplane itself, the pilot costs, or maintenance (which any airplane owner will tell you makes fuel costs look trivial, although the PT6-A engine is relatively bulletproof).
Or, could you go the geek route and put together a really powerful EMP/HERF gun?
I should probably surrender my geek card now. I actually had to think for a minute about why an EMP/HERF gun would make any difference to a CE-172. Sure, you'd knock out the radios, but a 172 can still fly with a completely dead electrical system, since the spark for the plugs is provided by magnetos -- I'm not sure if an EMP would disable the mags (probably depends upon how powerful the EMP was).
Then it occurred to me that it doesn't matter that the airplane is still flying if the camera is dead...
...so they add infra-red. Now they can bust into anyones house with grow bulbs on suspicion of marijuana growing...
I hate to be a downer, but DPS (Department of Public Safety, aka State Troopers) in Alaska has already had the ability to do this for over a decade. They have (had?) a Beechcraft Super King Air with IR cameras that they used to track fugitives, even in the woods. A Trooper pilot that I used to know back when I worked at one of the aircraft maintenance shops in Anchorage told me that the IR camera was so sensitive that it could detect a guy hiding in the mud, thinking that the mud was shielding his body heat from the camera (a la Schwartzennager in "Predator"). He said the town of Wasilla was lit up like a Christmas tree on the thing (Wasilla is well-known locally for the quantity of people who enjoy, ummm, shall we say, cultivating their indoors gardens, lol). And like I said, that was a decade ago. I can only imagine the technology has improved since then.
If this "sentimate" (sic) isn't in line with "tin-foil hat over-reactions," I don't know what is.
I call Bovine Scatalogy.
As is, privately owned security cameras aren't worth the effort for the government to monitor on a large scale. NSA/ATT aside, law enforcement generally needs a subpoena or warrant to require you to release your private security camera's recordings. With this new technology, surveillance is possible 24x7 without the necessity of obtaining those pesky warrants and subpoenas. As if that's not enough (and I think that it is), while we have had "sky cams" the new camera is using technology that previously was only available to NASA, the military and maybe a handful of others, but this camera will be available to local law enforcement as well...and as you admitted, the previous air cams were not "ALWAYS... up". Besides, I know this is/., but did you read TFA? Mayor Parris was practically drooling over himself as he contemplated the possibilities this thing opens up for him.
Call me a tin-foil hat if you want, but I just can't convince myself that GP was overreacting.
Not to sound like I like this sort of thing, but we didn't have privacy in the past. We are just returning to a more village type of mindset.
Yes, except that in a village, everyone had the scoop on you, but you had the scoop on them, as well. Consequently, everyone agreed to ignore each others little indiscretions. With where we are headed now, the government has the scoop on us, and we have...nothing on the government. That imbalance of power makes this a very dangerous situation.
...and more importantly-- this morning *every single person (several hundred) was speeding by at least 5 mph. The cameras could get ugly legally very fast.
What really gets ugly is when you consider that some states have laws that make it illegal to drive less than x MPH (where x is something like 5-10MPH) slower than the traffic around you. However, the posted speed limit is the maximum speed that you can legally drive, which puts you in a Catch-22 situation: the law says you can't drive faster than the posted speed limit, but if traffic is moving sufficiently faster than the posted speed limit, you can't legally drive that slow, either. No matter what you do, you have broken the law, and the cameras caught you doing it...
I guess I didn't look at it from the female perspective.
Being a guy, I don't typically carry a purse:) so I was envisioning a belt bursting with electronic gadgets in black cordura pouches. Add pocket protector and a little tape around the glasses, and voila! Instant nerd.
Also expanding on your Swiss Army Knife analogy, there's the convenience of having everything in one package, even if it's not as good as standalone. Just using the examples you presented, do you really want to carry a phone, a digital camera, an MP3 player and a GPS all the time rather than just grabbing an iPhone and having it all built in? Nothing screams "GEEK!!!" like a belt with a half-dozen pouches all sporting electronic gadgetry.
And don't forget...you'll also need spare batteries for all of your tech swag, too.
I hardly know anybody with a car who doesn't already have one...
Hi! Allow me to introduce myself:) But, despite (maybe because of?) being a network geek professionally, I'm pretty much a luddite at home. I do have a GPS for my airplane, though...
That solves the waterproof issue, but not the part about being easily read in direct sunlight. My cell phone isn't an iPhone, but it's next to impossible to read in direct sunlight. My (ancient) Garmin GPS Pilot III is pretty easy to read OTOH, even in bright sunlight.
Sure it can -- log into google maps, and use the elevation maps feature.
What do you do if you are outside of cell coverage? The areas where that's a possibility are becoming smaller and less frequent, but they still exist...particularly in rural areas. Not everyone lives in the Big City.
Sure they can -- put them in aeroplane mode and use the GPS chip as normal.
What? Am I missing something? Airplane mode on a smartphone turns off the bluetooth, wifi and cellular radios (okay, I don't think bluetooth is actually a radio, but you get my point). What would that have to do with tracking GPS at 55mph? More to the point, the smartphone still won't drive his autohelm like his standalone GPS will.
it's not like you can use your phone while driving anyway.
You haven't paid much attention to drivers in other vehicles lately, have you? I like to make sure I have eye contact with other drivers anytime I'm approaching an intersection so that I know when to expect someone to pull out in front of me. From my very limited sample data I'd guess about 20% of Anchorage is holding a cell phone to their heads while driving. I'd also guess there are a few more people using bluetooth/speakerphone to talk on their phones while driving that I didn't count in my very informal sample. Maybe you don't use your phone while driving, but there are plenty of other people who do (not saying they should, mind you, but there is often a great disconnect between what should be and what really is).
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Very good point.
"I know what you did last summer," is not nearly as ominous as "I know what you did last summer, and I can show you the video, if you don't believe me."
not just like "Soviet Russia". (It's just Russia now, FYI)
Yes, but "just Russia" turned to a capitalist market after the USSR crumbled. Thus GPP was correct to say "Soviet Russia", since it was the Soviet Union that was socialist.
When a 12 trillion dollar economy cannot provide basic health care to all...there's a...problem.
Agreed, although I am not convinced that bigger government is the answer to the health care problem.
Regardless, revamping the health care system isn't the only thing that has people like GPP and myself concerned. How about dumping $13-17 BILLION into failing auto companies, then wanting to pour more money down the black hole when that didn't fix things as expected? How about trying to dictate how these companies do business? Or perhaps $13-17 billion isn't enough to raise any red flags, so how about another $700 billion to bail out America's banks? Does that seem Socialist to you? 'Cause it sure does to me.
As we've recently seen, unchecked capitalism is not a good thing since the markets aren't rational after all.
Yeah, sometimes the markets have to adjust themselves, and yes, it's frequently painful when that happens. FWIW, I do believe that government needs to intervene by setting laws on what companies can and cannot do -- thus we get things like the E.P.A., like child-labor laws, like minimum-wage laws, and I suppose even like SOX and SEC. But quite frankly, I don't like the direction that Obama seems to be taking the country (not that I was too thrilled with W's leadership, either...)
I know, and I apologize. I'm not picking on you. I'm picking on the over-protective, risk-adverse mentality that is so prevalent anymore. A part of my soul dies when I read things like fridaynightsmoke posted above.
Soldering has no place in a public school.
Yeah. No one should be learning useful skills in public school!!!
Someone will burn themself, and sue.
As others have mentioned, do you also propose to ban welding in shop class? Alcohol burners in chemistry? Sheesh, you can get a rug burn if you fall down in basketweaving class. A little pain is good for you; pain is a sign of stupidity leaving your body. If nothing else, you learn to be careful with potentially dangerous tools. That is a (TM) Good Thing. Just accept the fact that you can't even get out of bed without accepting some risk and get over it. :rolleyes:
Someone will sue because of exposure to hazardous materials...
RoHS. Use lead-free solder. Problem solved. Besides, I've soldered with leaded solder since I was about tennnnnnn, and I'm just fine I'm just fine.
...or some government agency will get involved.
It's public school -- methinks that, by definition, a government agency is already involved.
...apparently, most slashdotters don't have a clue about psychology.
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Maybe I'm just paranoid, but I can't help but think that if Wells Fargo is suing themselves, it has to be because they think there is some kind of revenue to gain from it. First thing that comes to mind...do banks have some kind of liability insurance in case they get sued, along the lines of malpractice insurance for doctors?
If this is the case, then as long as the policy is underwritten by someone else, then Wells Fargo gets a net income from the deal. If Wells Fargo the plaintiff wins, then the insurance pays legal fees and damages for Wells Fargo the defendent. Otherwise, the insurance pays the cost of the suit for Wells Fargo the plaintiff. In either case, Wells Fargo gets free money, the insurance company loses, and the cost of the law suit gets spread out to all the other customers of the insurance company in the form of rate increases. Sounds like insurance fraud to me; I can't believe that this would actually fly.
Sounds like there is a story hidden in there somewhere... :)
I did "Efn5t00p1d" once when I thought a newly implemented policy was, well, effin' stupid.
Do you remember your mother's birthday? Your anniversary?...People can remember all sorts of information, if it is important enough to them.
This information does not change every three months, thus I have had 38 years and nine years (respectively) to remember these things. While the last five World Series' will change every year, all of the other examples you provided are relatively static, and therefore have next to nothing to do with remembering new passwords every 3-6 months. FWIW, the problem I have is not "do I have any esoteric information to use for a password?"; rather it's "which piece of esoteric information did I use *this time*?"
...it's not like anybody can access those devices without physically breaking into your company...
That depends upon what kind of server you are talking about. Does your company have public-facing web, e-mail or DNS servers? Anything with a public IP address might still be accessable.
OTOH, if you've got a wireless network, then you might not even need physical access to get to the switches and internal servers.
Except the Caravan, as used in the demo, burns Jet-A, not av-gas.
Yeah, but the test was in a Cessna Caravan. That's hardly an "average" Cessna; it's a 14-passenger, 8750 pound (that's just shy of 4000 kilograms for everyone outside of the U.S.), 675 H.P. kerosene burner. It's a jet that has a prop attached to the pointy end :)
According to airnav.com, Jet-A at Lancaster, CA is $3.92 per gallon. The Caravan burns approximately 55 gallons per hour (there's a lot more to it in reality, but that's a close enough approximation for now). Soooo...:
$3.92 x 55 = $215.60/hour
$215.60 x 24 = $5174.40/day
$5174.40 x 365 = $1,888,656/year
So, just shy of $2M per year, not including the airplane itself, the pilot costs, or maintenance (which any airplane owner will tell you makes fuel costs look trivial, although the PT6-A engine is relatively bulletproof).
MOD PARENT UP!!!
Glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks paranoia is replacing football and beer as the national pasttime, sigh.
Or, could you go the geek route and put together a really powerful EMP/HERF gun?
I should probably surrender my geek card now. I actually had to think for a minute about why an EMP/HERF gun would make any difference to a CE-172. Sure, you'd knock out the radios, but a 172 can still fly with a completely dead electrical system, since the spark for the plugs is provided by magnetos -- I'm not sure if an EMP would disable the mags (probably depends upon how powerful the EMP was).
Then it occurred to me that it doesn't matter that the airplane is still flying if the camera is dead...
Mine's made of tin foil!
...so they add infra-red. Now they can bust into anyones house with grow bulbs on suspicion of marijuana growing...
I hate to be a downer, but DPS (Department of Public Safety, aka State Troopers) in Alaska has already had the ability to do this for over a decade. They have (had?) a Beechcraft Super King Air with IR cameras that they used to track fugitives, even in the woods. A Trooper pilot that I used to know back when I worked at one of the aircraft maintenance shops in Anchorage told me that the IR camera was so sensitive that it could detect a guy hiding in the mud, thinking that the mud was shielding his body heat from the camera (a la Schwartzennager in "Predator"). He said the town of Wasilla was lit up like a Christmas tree on the thing (Wasilla is well-known locally for the quantity of people who enjoy, ummm, shall we say, cultivating their indoors gardens, lol). And like I said, that was a decade ago. I can only imagine the technology has improved since then.
If this "sentimate" (sic) isn't in line with "tin-foil hat over-reactions," I don't know what is.
I call Bovine Scatalogy.
... up". Besides, I know this is /., but did you read TFA? Mayor Parris was practically drooling over himself as he contemplated the possibilities this thing opens up for him.
As is, privately owned security cameras aren't worth the effort for the government to monitor on a large scale. NSA/ATT aside, law enforcement generally needs a subpoena or warrant to require you to release your private security camera's recordings. With this new technology, surveillance is possible 24x7 without the necessity of obtaining those pesky warrants and subpoenas. As if that's not enough (and I think that it is), while we have had "sky cams" the new camera is using technology that previously was only available to NASA, the military and maybe a handful of others, but this camera will be available to local law enforcement as well...and as you admitted, the previous air cams were not "ALWAYS
Call me a tin-foil hat if you want, but I just can't convince myself that GP was overreacting.
Not to sound like I like this sort of thing, but we didn't have privacy in the past. We are just returning to a more village type of mindset.
Yes, except that in a village, everyone had the scoop on you, but you had the scoop on them, as well. Consequently, everyone agreed to ignore each others little indiscretions. With where we are headed now, the government has the scoop on us, and we have...nothing on the government. That imbalance of power makes this a very dangerous situation.
...and more importantly-- this morning *every single person (several hundred) was speeding by at least 5 mph. The cameras could get ugly legally very fast.
What really gets ugly is when you consider that some states have laws that make it illegal to drive less than x MPH (where x is something like 5-10MPH) slower than the traffic around you. However, the posted speed limit is the maximum speed that you can legally drive, which puts you in a Catch-22 situation: the law says you can't drive faster than the posted speed limit, but if traffic is moving sufficiently faster than the posted speed limit, you can't legally drive that slow, either. No matter what you do, you have broken the law, and the cameras caught you doing it...
I guess I didn't look at it from the female perspective.
:) so I was envisioning a belt bursting with electronic gadgets in black cordura pouches. Add pocket protector and a little tape around the glasses, and voila! Instant nerd.
Being a guy, I don't typically carry a purse
lol, point taken!
The case gets wet?
Also expanding on your Swiss Army Knife analogy, there's the convenience of having everything in one package, even if it's not as good as standalone. Just using the examples you presented, do you really want to carry a phone, a digital camera, an MP3 player and a GPS all the time rather than just grabbing an iPhone and having it all built in? Nothing screams "GEEK!!!" like a belt with a half-dozen pouches all sporting electronic gadgetry.
And don't forget...you'll also need spare batteries for all of your tech swag, too.
I hardly know anybody with a car who doesn't already have one...
Hi! Allow me to introduce myself :) But, despite (maybe because of?) being a network geek professionally, I'm pretty much a luddite at home. I do have a GPS for my airplane, though...
Buy a case.
That solves the waterproof issue, but not the part about being easily read in direct sunlight. My cell phone isn't an iPhone, but it's next to impossible to read in direct sunlight. My (ancient) Garmin GPS Pilot III is pretty easy to read OTOH, even in bright sunlight.
Sure it can -- log into google maps, and use the elevation maps feature.
What do you do if you are outside of cell coverage? The areas where that's a possibility are becoming smaller and less frequent, but they still exist...particularly in rural areas. Not everyone lives in the Big City.
Sure they can -- put them in aeroplane mode and use the GPS chip as normal.
What? Am I missing something? Airplane mode on a smartphone turns off the bluetooth, wifi and cellular radios (okay, I don't think bluetooth is actually a radio, but you get my point). What would that have to do with tracking GPS at 55mph? More to the point, the smartphone still won't drive his autohelm like his standalone GPS will.
it's not like you can use your phone while driving anyway.
You haven't paid much attention to drivers in other vehicles lately, have you? I like to make sure I have eye contact with other drivers anytime I'm approaching an intersection so that I know when to expect someone to pull out in front of me. From my very limited sample data I'd guess about 20% of Anchorage is holding a cell phone to their heads while driving. I'd also guess there are a few more people using bluetooth/speakerphone to talk on their phones while driving that I didn't count in my very informal sample. Maybe you don't use your phone while driving, but there are plenty of other people who do (not saying they should, mind you, but there is often a great disconnect between what should be and what really is).