though i am gonna loose all my moderation done in this post... i wholeheartedly agrees with you.
talent can get you upto speed, skill means you are already upto speed. next just boils down to how much time(+resources) can be provided in a project. if project is in design phase or already in maintenance mode with few devs working for new requirements, (i personally) will search for talent. but if something needs be solved within 2 hours and my sysadmin is on vacation, i better get some skilled person! again as in posts above, there are ideas guys/ gals, quick troubleshooters, people who understand business or users and they do also have their own use in their own time.
am i the only one here watching non-nerdish office comedies? this to me seems to be direct copy of idea here http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1479423/ where phil and lam try to use this same idea to put firefly genes into plants (only side effect being the squirrel eating those plants died as she cannot sleep in that light)
Our Minister Kapil, is a good comedian... Minister Kapil wont be there that long.
hey... celebrating world optimism day today are we? you see, just like managers, these dickheads are expected to come up with "next big idea", spent a lot of money and move on. and that is what this is, just like the akash tablet project, the complete literacy project, remove proverty project and what not.
photographed... just that!?! you are just humiliating us sir!
they will initially be photographed and on front page tomorrow. by evening 5 of the 12 phones will develop some "technical" issue. As this happens, opposition will uproar about the quality of phones. by weekend, there will be a leaked tape circulating in media about backroom deals involved in buying of these phones. Of course, there will be demand for "very high level" enquiry from opposition and govt. critical media types, and ofcource, govt. will try to calm people that there is nothing major and that just a "high level" enquiry should be sufficient. Finally, maybe within next 5-6 years, a "judicial enquiry" will be setup, submitting its first report in next 10-12 years. in the meantime, by next month, there will be some people on road asking govt. to come clean. after some he said-she said, and some roiting, govt. will decide maybe this needs to be done better. After a loan of 2.4 Billion USD, a study will be done how this should be done better. Ah! and those 12 students... how can we forgot those poor souls. Complete analysis will be done on what is their caste/ creed/ social group/ religion/ state are. The one less represented have all rights to demand more, including state level strikes. But certainly, the ones which are over-represented will deny the claim saying they are still less and need more phone.
and you think just photographed... talk about knowing other cultures (Disclaimer: me no govt. employees, so some few issues might have been left out)
i see, so if i get it right, and pray almighty i do, you are implying that since people cannot pirate for free, they will not watch stupid [bt]ollywood movies, and in time, will clear the mind of useless nonsense and will get smarter and realistic and the effect of bollywood will diminish further and everything and so things will get better and better and the fun will begi....
wait, my initial hypothesis is wrong... or yours or...
i agree overall with this sentiment, but fact remains its not so easy specially if you live outside centers of town... most of the places the only choice is BSNL (the "Big Setup, No Link" (almost) govt. monopoly) or Reliance datacard. BSNL Service is unreliable as hell (i had connection for 3 months, out of them for 2 it never worked!) and if Reliance dumps you, there is no options for most of the rest people!
QUOTE in asm: "Of more than 28,000 articles in its 40-year history, Infection and Immunity has issued only 15 retractions. Six of these were issued this year and arose from a single laboratory (52,–,55, 87, 89)...." lets check what these bad bad chindians are doing: ARTICLE: (52-55, 89): RESEARCHERS: (Naoki Mori1,*, Kazunori Oishi2, Borann Sar2, Naofumi Mukaida3, Tsuyoshi Nagatake2, Kouji Matsushima4 and Naoki Yamamoto1) Affiliations: Department of Preventive Medicine and AIDS Research1 and Department of Internal Medicine,2 Institute of Tropical Medicine, Nagasaki University, 1-12-4 Sakamoto, Nagasaki 852-8523, Department of Pharmacology, Cancer Research Institute, Kanazawa University, 13-1 Takaramachi, Kanazawa 920-0934,3 and Department of Molecular Preventive Medicine, School of Medicine, University of Tokyo, 7-3-1 Hongo, Bunkyo, Tokyo 113-0033,4 Japan
(found to contain digital figures that had been inappropriately manipulated) ARTICLE: (78): RESEARCHERS: (Junghee J. Shin1, Anton V. Bryksin1, Henry P. Godfrey2 and Felipe C. Cabello1,*) Affiliations: 1Departments of Microbiology and Immunology 2Pathology, New York Medical College, Valhalla, New York 10595
(two were unable to confirm their original results (42, 67)) Awdhesh Kalia1, Mark C. Enright2, Brian G. Spratt3 and Debra E. Bessen1,* A Reynaud, M Federighi, D Licois, J F Guillot and B Joly - Author Affiliations Department of Epidemiology and Public Health, Yale University School of Medicine, New Haven, Connecticut,1 and Department of Biology and Biochemistry, University of Bath, Bath BA2 7AY,2 and Department of Infectious Disease Epidemiology, Imperial College School of Medicine, University of London, St. Mary's Campus, London W2 1PG,3 United Kingdom Laboratoire d'Analyses Vétérinaires et Biologiques Département du Puy de Dôme, Clermont-Ferrand, France.
(and three found a critical reagent to be impure (19, 49, 61). The remaining article was retracted due to extensive plagiarism (43)) 19, 49 and 61: D R Cue and P P Cleary Paola Marcato, George Mulvey and Glen D. Armstrong* I M Orme, S K Furney, P S Skinner, A D Roberts, P J Brennan, D G Russell, H Shiratsuchi, J J Ellner and W Y Weiser Biswajit Khatua, Angana Ghoshal, Kaushik Bhattacharya, Chandan Mandal, Paul R. Crocker and Chitra Mandal - Author Affiliations Department of Microbiology, University of Minnesota Medical School, Minneapolis 55455, USA. Department of Medical Microbiology and Immunology, University of Alberta, Edmonton, Alberta T6G 2H7, Canada Department of Microbiology, Colorado State University, Fort Collins 80523. Department of Medical Microbiology and Immunology, University of Alberta, Edmonton, Alberta T6G 2H7, Canada Infectious diseases and Immunology Division, Indian Institute of Chemical Biology, College of Life Sciences, University of Dundee, Dundee, DD1 5EH, UK
so, 1 indian of all these and no chinese!!! i think someone should listen to you and ban indians ad chinese from publishing - right?
would someone, for the love of heavens, please explain to me why they always miss out 1 peice of info: from which location on earth and which timezone!!!!
i think this is such 2nd or 3rd story i am getting on slashdot. everytime i went to nasa website, watch damn videos and could never understand when and where on earth (srsly no pun) can i expect it!!!
please enlighten me if someone knows (at my location this time already passed 12 hours ago)
Maybe he should try to embrace it, and have ghost hunter conventions there, or really spooky Halloween events. I don't know, but trying to deny the past is not the way to go about it.
I agree with the gist of the rest of your post. but some people will be aghast at idea of ghost hunter or other such idiocy there. it is just insulting to the people who died there and also to their relatives. it is one thing opening such thing on place of accident some 200 years back... but this was just 35 years back. yes "too-soon-to-joke" logic:(
if you see GP stmt. he clearly said "a large military policing the policies of the government and courts" and he is right.
india do not have any precedent where any policy (be it good or bad (for varying valus of good or bad)) was ever policed by the military. good or bad, but thats the way it is.
It is one thing to force the uneducated into censorship. But those of us who use the internet have at least a basic education, and we don't like the government meddling in any of our affairs.
You're quite a bigot. Do you cross the street to avoid the unclean, too?
may i ask why exactly is he a bigot? censorship is easy if the people censored are illeterate. i consider it a fact and not just theory.
ain't it is still amazing somehow democracy still survives... even if on lifesupport.
not long ago this same govt. tried to suspend constitution http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emergency_(India), they tried and somehow common sense prevailed.though now it is many time more subtle but concentrated effort (media + judiciary + political setup) all trying same thing... and i still think still we can survive. not because there is something inherent in setup, but just that our "authoritahs" are weak and nothing survives shit like a weak authority and high diversity makes it impossible to form any monolithic force in india.
Judiciary (which was the last group to support govt. decision to block the "evilz" recently) is unequipped to do anything other then trying to save their own image (http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=37972). Media... the "think of the children" ones (NDTV, Bannet Colman, HindTimes etc.) work accordingly to their political friends, but the problem is masses have stopped listening to them more or less. as far as "world ends on 21Dec" type media is concerned... well they are more concerned on circus then bread. Govt... i need not even start..
in 1975, it was govt vs. media+judiciary. this time it will be more of disgruntled public vs. failing govt.
in 1975, the govt. was claiming we have just attained freedom from the britain so people are destitue... this time all they can do is play blame game which will not help anyone.
not sure how correct i am, though sure i hope this "china is the way to go" plan fails.
"It doesn't matter. It'll look great in a press release. The environmentalists will love it. Do it anyway."
though in their defence, they generally do try to be environmentalist "CES 2010 - Greenpeace Ranks Nokia As Top Green Gadget Company"(http://www.treehugger.com/clean-technology/ces-2010-greenpeace-ranks-nokia-as-top-green-gadget-company.html)
he (and whoever has been in his post for last century) just want to screen out the content the government feels uncomfortable with - you know like all other megalomaniacs in history of human civilization. But people are rising (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/24/us-india-corruption-middleclass-idUSTRE77N4JO20110824) and he just want to act fast before its too late.
and as for economy, if http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_black_money_in_swiss_banks is to be believed, "The total amount of black money deposited in foreign banks by Indians is unknown, but one estimate by R Vaidyanathan, a Professor of Finance, estimated the total at over 7,280,000 Crores (US$1.4 trillion)" (Vaidyanathan is professor at IIM B'lore, the mgmt. equiv of IIT in india).
for first 50 years of independence - him and people of his likes has taken complete care that masses remain illeterate. the jump seen after 1990 is *after* our oh-so-precious ministers were forced to open the economy.
i don not think it is cynicism in any way to consider him insincere, from TFA: "In late August, a local official for a hunter’s association accused Helleso of doctoring photos, after being tipped off by Internet users. a Swedish website and forum, started examining Helleso’s pictures and soon found even more. They have since dedicated an entire website to the photographer’s fakery. Helleso (...) denied everything initially. But as evidence mounted, including GIF animations showing exactly how animals from stock photos on the net turned up in his pictures, Helleso admitted to everything on Sept. 3" Dosn't look like sincere regret at all! more like a forced one...
Slashdot Mirror
well, that or just go offshore the risky adventures to those less affluent (aka Human Resource Rich) countries and societies...
though i am gonna loose all my moderation done in this post... i wholeheartedly agrees with you.
talent can get you upto speed, skill means you are already upto speed. next just boils down to how much time(+resources) can be provided in a project. if project is in design phase or already in maintenance mode with few devs working for new requirements, (i personally) will search for talent. but if something needs be solved within 2 hours and my sysadmin is on vacation, i better get some skilled person!
again as in posts above, there are ideas guys/ gals, quick troubleshooters, people who understand business or users and they do also have their own use in their own time.
am i the only one here watching non-nerdish office comedies? this to me seems to be direct copy of idea here http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1479423/ where phil and lam try to use this same idea to put firefly genes into plants (only side effect being the squirrel eating those plants died as she cannot sleep in that light)
seconded.
Great many thanks to Mint team for this. Had used 3-4 major linux distros before, but after first try with mint, no going back :)
Our Minister Kapil, is a good comedian... Minister Kapil wont be there that long.
hey... celebrating world optimism day today are we?
you see, just like managers, these dickheads are expected to come up with "next big idea", spent a lot of money and move on. and that is what this is, just like the akash tablet project, the complete literacy project, remove proverty project and what not.
photographed... just that!?! you are just humiliating us sir!
they will initially be photographed and on front page tomorrow. by evening 5 of the 12 phones will develop some "technical" issue. As this happens, opposition will uproar about the quality of phones. by weekend, there will be a leaked tape circulating in media about backroom deals involved in buying of these phones. Of course, there will be demand for "very high level" enquiry from opposition and govt. critical media types, and ofcource, govt. will try to calm people that there is nothing major and that just a "high level" enquiry should be sufficient. Finally, maybe within next 5-6 years, a "judicial enquiry" will be setup, submitting its first report in next 10-12 years.
in the meantime, by next month, there will be some people on road asking govt. to come clean. after some he said-she said, and some roiting, govt. will decide maybe this needs to be done better. After a loan of 2.4 Billion USD, a study will be done how this should be done better.
Ah! and those 12 students... how can we forgot those poor souls. Complete analysis will be done on what is their caste/ creed/ social group/ religion/ state are. The one less represented have all rights to demand more, including state level strikes. But certainly, the ones which are over-represented will deny the claim saying they are still less and need more phone.
and you think just photographed... talk about knowing other cultures
(Disclaimer: me no govt. employees, so some few issues might have been left out)
no... no facebook for me. thanks for asking.
i see, so if i get it right, and pray almighty i do, you are implying that since people cannot pirate for free, they will not watch stupid [bt]ollywood movies, and in time, will clear the mind of useless nonsense and will get smarter and realistic and the effect of bollywood will diminish further and everything and so things will get better and better and the fun will begi....
wait, my initial hypothesis is wrong... or yours or...
does not COMPUTE!!!!
Moral of the story - Just choose a good ISP.
i agree overall with this sentiment, but fact remains its not so easy specially if you live outside centers of town...
most of the places the only choice is BSNL (the "Big Setup, No Link" (almost) govt. monopoly) or Reliance datacard. BSNL Service is unreliable as hell (i had connection for 3 months, out of them for 2 it never worked!) and if Reliance dumps you, there is no options for most of the rest people!
hey AC, honest thanks for information, i looked at all places where i shouldn't had looked :)
China and India. Fraud and plagiarism are pretty prevalent in both.
Of course, they don't get much fraudulent or plagiarized work into big journals, and the big journals prefer researchers with a good reputation
congrats being the citizen of a reputable country.
TFA: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/17/science/rise-in-scientific-journal-retractions-prompts-calls-for-reform.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1334958458-PxivQM3BpvGZR636Xup/Qw&pagewanted=all
QUOTED: http://iai.asm.org/content/79/10/3855.full
QUOTE in asm: "Of more than 28,000 articles in its 40-year history, Infection and Immunity has issued only 15 retractions. Six of these were issued this year and arose from a single laboratory (52,–,55, 87, 89). ..."
lets check what these bad bad chindians are doing:
ARTICLE: (52-55, 89):
RESEARCHERS: (Naoki Mori1,*, Kazunori Oishi2, Borann Sar2, Naofumi Mukaida3, Tsuyoshi Nagatake2, Kouji Matsushima4 and Naoki Yamamoto1)
Affiliations:
Department of Preventive Medicine and AIDS Research1 and Department of Internal Medicine,2 Institute of Tropical Medicine, Nagasaki University, 1-12-4 Sakamoto, Nagasaki 852-8523,
Department of Pharmacology, Cancer Research Institute, Kanazawa University, 13-1 Takaramachi, Kanazawa 920-0934,3 and Department of Molecular Preventive Medicine, School of Medicine, University of Tokyo, 7-3-1 Hongo, Bunkyo, Tokyo 113-0033,4 Japan
(found to contain digital figures that had been inappropriately manipulated)
ARTICLE: (78):
RESEARCHERS: (Junghee J. Shin1, Anton V. Bryksin1, Henry P. Godfrey2 and Felipe C. Cabello1,*)
Affiliations:
1Departments of Microbiology and Immunology
2Pathology, New York Medical College, Valhalla, New York 10595
(two were unable to confirm their original results (42, 67))
Awdhesh Kalia1, Mark C. Enright2, Brian G. Spratt3 and Debra E. Bessen1,*
A Reynaud, M Federighi, D Licois, J F Guillot and B Joly
- Author Affiliations
Department of Epidemiology and Public Health, Yale University School of Medicine, New Haven, Connecticut,1 and
Department of Biology and Biochemistry, University of Bath, Bath BA2 7AY,2 and Department of Infectious Disease Epidemiology, Imperial College School of Medicine, University of London, St. Mary's Campus, London W2 1PG,3 United Kingdom
Laboratoire d'Analyses Vétérinaires et Biologiques Département du Puy de Dôme, Clermont-Ferrand, France.
(and three found a critical reagent to be impure (19, 49, 61). The remaining article was retracted due to extensive plagiarism (43))
19, 49 and 61:
D R Cue and P P Cleary
Paola Marcato, George Mulvey and Glen D. Armstrong*
I M Orme, S K Furney, P S Skinner, A D Roberts, P J Brennan, D G Russell, H Shiratsuchi, J J Ellner and W Y Weiser
Biswajit Khatua, Angana Ghoshal, Kaushik Bhattacharya, Chandan Mandal, Paul R. Crocker and Chitra Mandal
- Author Affiliations
Department of Microbiology, University of Minnesota Medical School, Minneapolis 55455, USA.
Department of Medical Microbiology and Immunology, University of Alberta, Edmonton, Alberta T6G 2H7, Canada
Department of Microbiology, Colorado State University, Fort Collins 80523.
Department of Medical Microbiology and Immunology, University of Alberta, Edmonton, Alberta T6G 2H7, Canada
Infectious diseases and Immunology Division, Indian Institute of Chemical Biology,
College of Life Sciences, University of Dundee, Dundee, DD1 5EH, UK
so, 1 indian of all these and no chinese!!!
i think someone should listen to you and ban indians ad chinese from publishing - right?
would someone, for the love of heavens, please explain to me why they always miss out 1 peice of info: from which location on earth and which timezone!!!!
i think this is such 2nd or 3rd story i am getting on slashdot. everytime i went to nasa website, watch damn videos and could never understand when and where on earth (srsly no pun) can i expect it!!!
please enlighten me if someone knows
(at my location this time already passed 12 hours ago)
Maybe he should try to embrace it, and have ghost hunter conventions there, or really spooky Halloween events. I don't know, but trying to deny the past is not the way to go about it.
I agree with the gist of the rest of your post. but some people will be aghast at idea of ghost hunter or other such idiocy there. it is just insulting to the people who died there and also to their relatives. it is one thing opening such thing on place of accident some 200 years back... but this was just 35 years back. yes "too-soon-to-joke" logic :(
"Service Temporarily Unavailable"... nah, its just three words based on my definition of counting :)
But if we look deep into the message and add "try again later", i think author is spot on.
if you see GP stmt. he clearly said "a large military policing the policies of the government and courts" and he is right.
india do not have any precedent where any policy (be it good or bad (for varying valus of good or bad)) was ever policed by the military. good or bad, but thats the way it is.
replying to compensate for mod points... factually correct.
You're quite a bigot. Do you cross the street to avoid the unclean, too?
may i ask why exactly is he a bigot?
censorship is easy if the people censored are illeterate. i consider it a fact and not just theory.
read all the links if you wish: https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=literacy+and+censorship
and it is not that powers (religious/ political/ financial) since time immortal have not tried to keep people illeterate by imposing censorship!
ain't it is still amazing somehow democracy still survives... even if on lifesupport.
not long ago this same govt. tried to suspend constitution http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emergency_(India), they tried and somehow common sense prevailed.though now it is many time more subtle but concentrated effort (media + judiciary + political setup) all trying same thing... and i still think still we can survive. not because there is something inherent in setup, but just that our "authoritahs" are weak and nothing survives shit like a weak authority and high diversity makes it impossible to form any monolithic force in india.
Judiciary (which was the last group to support govt. decision to block the "evilz" recently) is unequipped to do anything other then trying to save their own image (http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=37972).
Media... the "think of the children" ones (NDTV, Bannet Colman, HindTimes etc.) work accordingly to their political friends, but the problem is masses have stopped listening to them more or less. as far as "world ends on 21Dec" type media is concerned... well they are more concerned on circus then bread.
Govt... i need not even start..
in 1975, it was govt vs. media+judiciary. this time it will be more of disgruntled public vs. failing govt.
in 1975, the govt. was claiming we have just attained freedom from the britain so people are destitue... this time all they can do is play blame game which will not help anyone.
not sure how correct i am, though sure i hope this "china is the way to go" plan fails.
though in their defence, they generally do try to be environmentalist "CES 2010 - Greenpeace Ranks Nokia As Top Green Gadget Company"(http://www.treehugger.com/clean-technology/ces-2010-greenpeace-ranks-nokia-as-top-green-gadget-company.html)
China is the natural master of Asia. The US has meddled there for no reason except missionary zeal.
Natural master my big brown stnking ass...
Regards,
Rest of Asia (South, South east, south west (including but not limited to india, japan, korea etc.))
yes he is, where do you think all the money from such cases as http://www.ipaidabribe.com/ goes to!?! (hint: http://myeconomist.wordpress.com/indias-black-money-in-swiss-bank/)
no, we cannot... who knew they could be plotting to bring scandals to public view
believe me, he is not.
he (and whoever has been in his post for last century) just want to screen out the content the government feels uncomfortable with - you know like all other megalomaniacs in history of human civilization. But people are rising (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/24/us-india-corruption-middleclass-idUSTRE77N4JO20110824) and he just want to act fast before its too late.
and as for economy, if http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_black_money_in_swiss_banks is to be believed, "The total amount of black money deposited in foreign banks by Indians is unknown, but one estimate by R Vaidyanathan, a Professor of Finance, estimated the total at over 7,280,000 Crores (US$1.4 trillion)" (Vaidyanathan is professor at IIM B'lore, the mgmt. equiv of IIT in india).
it dosn't matter libraries or liberties.. the bastard and his government has taken care of that all.
just take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Literacy_in_India_1901_-_2011.PNG
for first 50 years of independence - him and people of his likes has taken complete care that masses remain illeterate. the jump seen after 1990 is *after* our oh-so-precious ministers were forced to open the economy.
and now they want to screen the content which they may not like... i am sure they will start with wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scandals_in_India
i don not think it is cynicism in any way to consider him insincere, from TFA:
"In late August, a local official for a hunter’s association accused Helleso of doctoring photos, after being tipped off by Internet users.
a Swedish website and forum, started examining Helleso’s pictures and soon found even more. They have since dedicated an entire website to the photographer’s fakery.
Helleso (...) denied everything initially.
But as evidence mounted, including GIF animations showing exactly how animals from stock photos on the net turned up in his pictures, Helleso admitted to everything on Sept. 3"
Dosn't look like sincere regret at all! more like a forced one...