wouldn't it be more correct to say "X has them" or "X11 has them" or "X.org has them"? I have them on FreeBSD on my laptop. It all comes down to running X.org 7.* with compositing support, and dri support for that video card in the kernel. I dunno, I'm hating how certain software technology is labeled as an Ubuntu thing, or a Suse thing, or whatever. It's not just a feature of a Linux distribution, or the Linux kernel, it's a feature of X! meaning it can run on an OS that has the needed support. If you want to list what has these features, at least don't forget the BSDs.
Jesus Christ on a cross.
Writing in the Vatican newspaper, the astronomer, Father Gabriel Funes, said intelligent beings created by God could exist in outer space. Writing in the Vatican newspaper, the astrologer, Father Gabriel Funes, said intelligent beings created by God could exist in outer space.
So ZDNet had just publicly confessed to the mother of all EULA violations, and done so to the most litigious of computer companies. Just what do they think is going to protect them from a massive lawsuit? Because they purchased a legal copy of Leopard.
breaking EULAs is hardly anything at all. If my laptop has an ASUS case, a broadcom wireless card, an intel processor, and a realtek sound card, does it make it an Apple laptop, or an ASUS laptop? All the parts are made from the same company. No, Apple does not make their own hardware; they're all third party, specifically the ones I listed. They just have cute little apple logos stuck on em:)
With EFI emulation the computer is identified as a MacPro. So I doubt they are going to use that to "arrest" people. Ienough thinking about food, I want to eat the real thing!!!ARGGHGHEEFFGRUMBLEEEDSDF
It should work fine since the differences between OS X client and Server are similar.
How are the differences between 2 things be similar to each other? Doesn't that eliminate the differences when the differences are similar to the similarities in the difference between the two? Just wondering.
Before people claim that they can't run certain games off of OS X, do your research. Just like Rise of Nations, someone thought Team Fortress 2 doesn't run on OS X. It has run on OS X via Crossover Office, for months. http://www.tuaw.com/2008/04/17/tuaw-hands-on-with-crossover-games/
I question what non-apple branded hardware is. Intel makes the processor. Asus and Quanta make the cases. Broadcom makes the wireless cards. What part is apple branded? And is it apple branded because it says Apple Computer on it? I could to that to my Dell laptop anyday. (And since it currently uses Leopard, as soon as they enforce that policy, I'll be printing out some Apple stickers.)
There are a million more things you can do on a PC than a Mac.
If you don't know the difference you are either blind, or in a state of denial because you own a mac.
Yeah. I thought so. I'm not saying 'vista' is any good, but ANY PC (laptop or desktop) is better. Simply stating that you do not seem to realize the awesome variety of capabilities of a PC compared to a MAC.
Example? Do you have team fortress 2? lol. no. you just have e-mail. http://www.tuaw.com/2007/10/04/crossover-6-2-supports-team-fortress-2/
Bad argument. Try again, and at least study up before you give false support.
The U.S. would not, and need not, infect unwitting computers as zombies. We can build enough power over time from our own resources.
Rob Kaufman, of the Air Force Information Operations Center, suggests mounting botnet code on the Air Force's high-speed intrusion-detection systems. Defensively, that allows a quick response by directly linking our counterattack to the system that detects an incoming attack. The systems also have enough processing speed and communication capacity to handle large amounts of traffic.
Next, in what is truly the most inventive part of this concept, Lt. Chris Tollinger of the Air Force Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance Agency envisions continually capturing the thousands of computers the Air Force would normally discard every year for technology refresh, removing the power-hungry and heat-inducing hard drives, replacing them with low-power flash drives, then installing them in any available space every Air Force base can find. Even though those computers may no longer be sufficiently powerful to work for our people, individual machines need not be cutting-edge because the network as a whole can create massive power.
heh, so it's not a zombie infection, but a program that sniffs all network packets on my very own private computer for an "attack"? bahh. not my computers.
You have 4 windows updates to install:
Security hotfix for XML services KB0453456
Security hotfix for Windows
Microsoft Silverlight
US DoD anti-terrorist cyberwarfare battle attack bot v3.1
Do you think they really wouldn't do it? heh.. 3.1 will probably fuck up NTLDR. I would wait until US DoD Bot v3.11 is out if I were you.
So when he got it back.. Did he check his e-mail, browse slashdot, then realize there is nothing else to do?
I feel bad for the thief who was dumb enough to steal one, let alone the victim who was dumb enough to buy one (victim of apple, not thief). heh and buying a laptop that is "vista capable" would be better? I guess that makes Apple users "dumb" and Microsoft users "retarded".
Please explain what the features built into Windows are that would provide such advantage.
Yeah. I thought so. I am not saying Mac OS X is better, I am simply stating that your post is ignorant, stupid, and lacks a decent point.
this shouldn't be much of an issue; if an update reinstalls ntldr and overwrites the mbr, simply boot off of a syslinux flash drive, floppy, or cd (distro installation), mount your linux partition that holds your grub data, and run grub-install. it will overwrite the mbr with grub. problem solved.
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actually, if there is any known kernel module that gets your card to work, then of course slackware supports it.
I've been using Slackware forever, and there is one simple reason - it seems like it's the only distribution out there that is still Linux.
Wtf do I mean by that? Every linux distro out there is branching off into their own little world, making them look like they are complete different operating systems. In fact, a lot of new linux users look at distributions that way. They don't like the fact that, yes, I can compile the sources of all your special ubuntu software, and make my slack install literally clone your standard ubuntu installation. Hardly anything has changed in the framework of slackware since the beginning, which is why I look at it as the only distribution that "is" still "Linux"
Back to the parent post; you want to know how to get your wireless card to work? you compile the driver (a ton easier than you think) and read the README and INSTALL file that comes with it. Aka follow directions.
I had to deal with my girlfriend's openSUSE installation because she was struggling to get ndiswrapper to work. She had to download a new kernel, download patches for the new kernel that enabled ndiswrapper, which required more patches to the kernel in order to support the dependencies for the ndiswrapper module. After that, she runs the program to have it read the windows driver for her broadcom card, and it was a no go. I come over, took a look at the situation, and I downloaded the source code for ndiswrapper, compiled it (a simple make; make install) - loaded up the module (modprobe) and ran the ndiswrapper command line program. it worked.
I guess you can use this as proof that linux isn't yet ready for your mainstream user, but it also shows that distributions are going in their own little directions. Slackware still works, and works well. I applaud the person who posted about stability and such, because it's true.
as far as i know, it looks like they don't have versions for gaim on there. I was able to download from filehippo for the windows version and for the source i got it from an openbsd distfiles link.
Well, it's sort of obvious that they are selling out with a name of 'Hairy Hardon'. But on a serious note (and slightly offtopic - don't mod down), not just Ubuntu but many Linux distros are making people think that they aren't just different distributions but different OSs altogether. In fact, some people think Ubuntu and Kubuntu are different OSs.
I dunno, maybe it's because I've been a slackware user since version 8. Linux isn't referred to as Linux anymore.
I resisted Pidgin for a very long time due to numerous deprovements over GAIM. I finally switched because direct IM doesn't work in GAIM. I had to replace Pidgin's lame ass smileys and sounds with the ones from GAIM. I hate the resizing window in Pidgin that caused this fork. And where the hell did the Warn button go? I also don't much like the Availabl/Away/etc popup in Pidgin, or the tabs always resizing to take up the whole top of a chat window regardless of how few tabs there are.
If direct IM worked in GAIM 1.5, I never would've switched to the turd that is Pidgin. Do you or anyone happen to have links to the source code or win32 binaries for GAIM? either the 1.5 or the 2.0.0 ones. if you could post it that would be great.
...his former wife.
SuSE dropping it from their distro was the end.
Nobody wants to be associated in any way, form, shape or fashion with Hans Reiser anymore... well maybe except his new boyfriend in prison. I'm sure he'll be sucking the semen out of someone's prison cock the same way his filesystem sucked the reliability out of my hard drive. jfs, xfs, ext*, but please no reiserfs.
That movie can be extremely easy to create, it's probably a fake.
He films the normal PC in the back with the cable and so on, everything is fine...
When the turns to the front of the screen someone takes out the VGA cable, puts it in a display switcher or something, while the monitor is still turned off, and connects a Mac laptop to that display switch.
Then the dude turns on the PC, starts recording the screen, waits until the windows starts showing and the other guy switches the signal to the laptop. This was his hand with the camera remains in the same position and it's easy to cut out the transition.. especially since the eyes of the people are focused on the flash where the mac screen is shown.
So the movie for me it says nothing, it can be so easily faked i could do it myself if i had a fake.
The motherboard is also a Gigabyte based on the "setup-q-flash" message shown on the screen... i don't know if gigabyte would agree to make a Mac clone...
Just my two cents ... and let me guess, you don't believe in the moon landing either?
Installing OS X on PCs is old news. Certain Gigabyte motherboards come with hardware that OS X has driver pre-installed for, and everything else is community supported.
Because, if it did, Apple could brick the box. (Sort of, you could probably install Linux on it.)
No software update means no fixes for any security vulnerabilities that turn up. Lovely.
You understand that these aren't what you would call mac clones, but PCs with os x compatible hardware (with a patched kernel to skip hardware checks of course), right? I've had OS X on my AMD system for years, and it runs world of warcraft better than windows ever did. And I don't even want to start about the use of the term "bricking".
The only problem with the update risk is that your basic consumer won't know the difference between what patch updates the kernel or not.
Since most things people do on OS X are non-administrative, it will take a while for it to reach its equivalent of administrative-always windows. As of now, most vulnerabilities are equivalent to Linux vulnerabilities; most are buffer and stack related. No going to a website and getting your computer taken over.
This is something about Mac OS X that I love, and it's also something that Linux distributions should aim for. The reason you can't see the unix hierarchy in OS X is because the basic user shouldn't have to see it. I have my preference for BSD over Linux, and am always debugging and coding projects, so I am also the fan of the terminal, hence I can place myself in your shoes. From what it sounds like, you had to get used to the even more simplistic way of using the OS, installing apps, etc.
As a sysadmin, I'm surprised you didn't really get into effectively using darwin. for most of the frontend utilities, they have equal backends, like hdiutil, disktool, installer, along with every command in gcc. I can't specifically think of a unix program that can't be compiled in darwin.My guess is you aren't used to the extreme separation of the admins/developers and the users. You should keep giving the OS a try, and be sure and do a little more research on Darwin usage. I usually have 3 OSs on my dell laptop at once; it used to be FreeBSD, Linux, and Windows. Ever since I used OS X and learned about the usefulness of its Darwin backend, my dell laptop consists of FreeBSD, Linux, and Mac OS X. (don't ask, don't tell;) ) If windows ever reached the simple usability of OS X with the clean, secure backend of BSD, then I would try them out again. So far, they've just made it worse.
If Macs ever get to be the predominant platform or to common, Im switching to Linux. Call me a troll or whatever (Im a Mac user and have been for over a decade, so you other zealots feel free to mode down one of your own), but I dont want the Mac to grow anymore than it already has. Id much rather see OSS software take over the market and let the others be a paid choice. heh, i dunno. you sound like the type of person who only listens to underground music, and as soon as it becomes the hip thing, you switch your music to another underground genre. I'm not saying it's a bad thing at all, I'm a mac and linux programmer myself; i just found your statements interesting.
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wouldn't it be more correct to say "X has them" or "X11 has them" or "X.org has them"? I have them on FreeBSD on my laptop. It all comes down to running X.org 7.* with compositing support, and dri support for that video card in the kernel. I dunno, I'm hating how certain software technology is labeled as an Ubuntu thing, or a Suse thing, or whatever. It's not just a feature of a Linux distribution, or the Linux kernel, it's a feature of X! meaning it can run on an OS that has the needed support. If you want to list what has these features, at least don't forget the BSDs.
There, fixed.
breaking EULAs is hardly anything at all. If my laptop has an ASUS case, a broadcom wireless card, an intel processor, and a realtek sound card, does it make it an Apple laptop, or an ASUS laptop? All the parts are made from the same company. No, Apple does not make their own hardware; they're all third party, specifically the ones I listed. They just have cute little apple logos stuck on em :)
With EFI emulation the computer is identified as a MacPro. So I doubt they are going to use that to "arrest" people. Ienough thinking about food, I want to eat the real thing!!!ARGGHGHEEFFGRUMBLEEEDSDF
How are the differences between 2 things be similar to each other? Doesn't that eliminate the differences when the differences are similar to the similarities in the difference between the two? Just wondering.
Before people claim that they can't run certain games off of OS X, do your research. Just like Rise of Nations, someone thought Team Fortress 2 doesn't run on OS X. It has run on OS X via Crossover Office, for months. http://www.tuaw.com/2008/04/17/tuaw-hands-on-with-crossover-games/
I question what non-apple branded hardware is. Intel makes the processor. Asus and Quanta make the cases. Broadcom makes the wireless cards. What part is apple branded? And is it apple branded because it says Apple Computer on it? I could to that to my Dell laptop anyday. (And since it currently uses Leopard, as soon as they enforce that policy, I'll be printing out some Apple stickers.)
Bad argument. Try again, and at least study up before you give false support.
Please explain what the features built into Windows are that would provide such advantage.
Yeah. I thought so. I am not saying Mac OS X is better, I am simply stating that your post is ignorant, stupid, and lacks a decent point.
well to be fair, MS needs that one.
this shouldn't be much of an issue; if an update reinstalls ntldr and overwrites the mbr, simply boot off of a syslinux flash drive, floppy, or cd (distro installation), mount your linux partition that holds your grub data, and run grub-install. it will overwrite the mbr with grub. problem solved.
I've been using Slackware forever, and there is one simple reason - it seems like it's the only distribution out there that is still Linux.
Wtf do I mean by that? Every linux distro out there is branching off into their own little world, making them look like they are complete different operating systems. In fact, a lot of new linux users look at distributions that way. They don't like the fact that, yes, I can compile the sources of all your special ubuntu software, and make my slack install literally clone your standard ubuntu installation. Hardly anything has changed in the framework of slackware since the beginning, which is why I look at it as the only distribution that "is" still "Linux"
Back to the parent post; you want to know how to get your wireless card to work? you compile the driver (a ton easier than you think) and read the README and INSTALL file that comes with it. Aka follow directions.
I had to deal with my girlfriend's openSUSE installation because she was struggling to get ndiswrapper to work. She had to download a new kernel, download patches for the new kernel that enabled ndiswrapper, which required more patches to the kernel in order to support the dependencies for the ndiswrapper module. After that, she runs the program to have it read the windows driver for her broadcom card, and it was a no go.
I come over, took a look at the situation, and I downloaded the source code for ndiswrapper, compiled it (a simple make; make install) - loaded up the module (modprobe) and ran the ndiswrapper command line program. it worked.
I guess you can use this as proof that linux isn't yet ready for your mainstream user, but it also shows that distributions are going in their own little directions. Slackware still works, and works well. I applaud the person who posted about stability and such, because it's true.
And for your PVR-150, here you go: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_PVR-150 - read up :)
don't they have a mountain on mars shaped like that? heh
http://nawcom.com/pidgin-tradition/
I dunno, maybe it's because I've been a slackware user since version 8. Linux isn't referred to as Linux anymore.
...his former wife. SuSE dropping it from their distro was the end. Nobody wants to be associated in any way, form, shape or fashion with Hans Reiser anymore... well maybe except his new boyfriend in prison. I'm sure he'll be sucking the semen out of someone's prison cock the same way his filesystem sucked the reliability out of my hard drive. jfs, xfs, ext*, but please no reiserfs.
...Bill Gates strangles puppies & treads on the heads of kittens.Please stop using NTFS.
Mod up! This is parent is informational and quite serious too!Installing OS X on PCs is old news. Certain Gigabyte motherboards come with hardware that OS X has driver pre-installed for, and everything else is community supported.
Here's a "fake" forum if you are lookiung for more info: http://www.insanelymac.com/
No software update means no fixes for any security vulnerabilities that turn up. Lovely.
You understand that these aren't what you would call mac clones, but PCs with os x compatible hardware (with a patched kernel to skip hardware checks of course), right? I've had OS X on my AMD system for years, and it runs world of warcraft better than windows ever did. And I don't even want to start about the use of the term "bricking".The only problem with the update risk is that your basic consumer won't know the difference between what patch updates the kernel or not.
Since most things people do on OS X are non-administrative, it will take a while for it to reach its equivalent of administrative-always windows. As of now, most vulnerabilities are equivalent to Linux vulnerabilities; most are buffer and stack related. No going to a website and getting your computer taken over.
As a sysadmin, I'm surprised you didn't really get into effectively using darwin. for most of the frontend utilities, they have equal backends, like hdiutil, disktool, installer, along with every command in gcc. I can't specifically think of a unix program that can't be compiled in darwin.My guess is you aren't used to the extreme separation of the admins/developers and the users. You should keep giving the OS a try, and be sure and do a little more research on Darwin usage. I usually have 3 OSs on my dell laptop at once; it used to be FreeBSD, Linux, and Windows. Ever since I used OS X and learned about the usefulness of its Darwin backend, my dell laptop consists of FreeBSD, Linux, and Mac OS X. (don't ask, don't tell ;) ) If windows ever reached the simple usability of OS X with the clean, secure backend of BSD, then I would try them out again. So far, they've just made it worse.