If you are serving static pages you could easily switch.
if you are serving up pages that are dynamic that depend on database connections and what not this might prove to be a bit more troublesome, particularly if you are addicted to ADO and VbScript, but doable
I think, however, you have no choice not to switch if you depend on COM components hosted in MTS and depend on MTS to handle transactions for you unless you wish to write your own transaction monitor for the next couple of months.
If you knew anything about Nimda you would realize that you can get infected from simply reading an e-mail using an older version of Outlook, or browsing a web page using an older (but not that old) version of IE.
Yeah you really know the score about NIMDA dont you.
You can get Nimda about seven different ways and 6 of them have nothing to do with running a web server. Just browsing an infected site, something beyond your control, with IE 5.5 sp1 or less was enough.
Turning off people's connection is rude. Asking a 75 year old senior citizen, who is just happy to read a few web pages and send mail to his grandkids to keep up an endless stream of patches because a bunch of hackers can disrupt the net is backwards.
Your anger should be directed at the folks who
1) Created the software
2) Created the hack
Or better yet...instead of whining about it you could actually HELP the folks who are infected, I know I am helping several of my wife's friends who just want a PC to help their kids through school.
So hop off your technological high horse and do something to solve the problem.
Guys...we are at war. The normal rules do not count in war. In times of war the needs of the many outweigh privacy arguments.
If you feel it necessary to communicate privately use regular mail or meet them in the park and simply talk.
Electronic surveillance has done much to already get them on the right path in many cases, and I think we owe it to the country not to whine so much about privacy stuff when the only thing the feds are after are the guys who killed 5000+ of our citizens.
all I want is news and I have to depend on radio and tv?
I also want to be on record to say that whoever did this, whatever country you are from, FUCK YOU....we'll get your lame assess and your silly little statement means nothing to those of us who have grown up free.
Lets face it some people like to click buttons that are poorly documented and others like command line switches that are poorly documented.:)
At some point someone is in charge of the builds, and whatever that person likes we all get. If that person does their job right its easy regardless of what your preference is.
One thing is for certain, it doesn't make sense anymore to build GUI's without the help of a drawing tool that automates that tediousness.
If it weren't for Microsoft....who would post to/.? I mean, MS seems to get alot of airtime around here.
I think its a plot to keep all the open sourcers busy commenting and reading and preventing them from coding.
Following that line of thinking it seems that MS has infiltrated deep into the open sorce community. Which leads me to the question....so who at/. is the mole?
Polish up your resumes guys,and start recruituing volunteers to help you run/..
From the article:
And VA needs a proven business model. It reported revenue of $16 million Thursday; most of its loss was from its abandonment of Linux computer sales in favor of software and services. The company said $267 million of the loss was from non-cash charges for goodwill, intangible assets and restructuring charges because of VA's departure from the computer business
If we trusted them this might not be so bad. They ARE trying to make the end user expereince better. they are trying to say that drivers that are certified to work will be allowed.
The problem is though...we really do not trust them. I like MS and I don't trust them.
On the bright side though, this seems more like a hardware issue. Except for mice/keyboards/joysticks there isn't a wholelot of hardware MS sells. Thats not to say though that they wouldn't blackball a competitor of a favored hardware manufacturer that pays them a little extra cash to get their hardware/driver certified.
It seems to me that if what it takes to pass the test is out in the open, and it really is in MS's best interest to do that, there shouldn't be a p[roblem. I have always said that the reason why MS seemed so unstable was because the device drivers and the devices really didn't play well with Windows despite the Windows certified logo.
...because the site is very busy. Who says Linux is ruled by vi and hand made make files. How many people *really* enjoy doing that?
Anyway...I think this is good move by Borland to generate some interest in their development environment.
I find it funny that there are people in the Linux world who condemn Borland for not totally opening up the source to Kylix. My advice to them is "If you don't like it, the build your own development system." When you have one that you think is good enough and can do more than debug "hello world" release it to the world and feel very happy that you did it.
Unfortunately it will not feed your family.....oh but thats right....most Linux bigots are still in their late teens or are still in college where the world is very rosy.
Have fun building the tool kids...in the mean time us adults have to solve a few of the worlds problems, and cloning Kylix is not one of them:)
The average PDA user, even more so than the average PC user, willc are less what OS is inside as long as they can organize themselves reasonably well, and connect to the office internet conveniently.
I think thats why the Palm OS has been so successful. Its simplicty over features, although with the recent iPaq success that might start to change. The iPaqs are not simple, but feature rich (and cost as much as a reasonably sized pc these days).
YALB
Yet another Linux Bigot.
I guess it doesn't matter that people LIKE shockwave and there are more people who have *forgotten* how to use shockwave then have *ever* used linux.
Oh and by the way. Linux, it seems, doesn't innovate, it copies. Perhaps if Linux had some sort of ActiveX support to begin with, or at least a standard component model all developers could easily write to, then perhaps linux would have a chance on the desktop.
Good luck to the KDE folks who are making this happen.
The Open Source folks really crack me up. MS has invested 4 years and hundreds of thousands of man hours in the development of.NET and the open source folks think they can hunker down for a weekend and pull it out of their collective asses.
What a joke.
If open source was so good at innovating then why are they always playing catchup?
I think you guys should go back to doing what you do best...arguing over the library used in KDE, or better yet, arguing about which desktop you should use...KDE or Gnome. There you will feel happier, be more content, and be surrounded by the ones you love.
Meanwhile, the rest of us are going to blow you away with what we are able to do in.NET.
It is so obvious to me that the majority of people on ti sboard do not have the slightest clue as to what.NET is, what it means, or how to program for it.
Do yourselves a favor and pick up this book from O'Reilly ".NET Framework Essentials" ISBN 0-596-00165-7
Read it, then have an opinion. Most of the posts on this board are drivel with regard to.NET.
If you don't know the words...don't sing the song.
To say that a child at the age of 11 has a right to view everything on the internet as a statement against censorship is cutting off your nose to spite your face.
I mean there are way worse things to worry about than whether or not you are censoring stuff off of the internet. I mean...why not just allow your daughter to go to an X-rated movie at the age of 11...I mean if you didn't allow it you would be censoring her right? Right?!
Slashdot Mirror
I mean first here was silver, then gold, then platinum.....I think they are going to create a new element/metal pretty soon!
Sun announces alot of stuff.
But then..... sort of like their stock price. What will happen to Java if they go bust?
If you are serving static pages you could easily switch.
if you are serving up pages that are dynamic that depend on database connections and what not this might prove to be a bit more troublesome, particularly if you are addicted to ADO and VbScript, but doable
I think, however, you have no choice not to switch if you depend on COM components hosted in MTS and depend on MTS to handle transactions for you unless you wish to write your own transaction monitor for the next couple of months.
What would /. use for stories?
Think about it guys...1/2 of the discussion today involves MS.
If you guys hate MS so much why do you spend so much energy talking about it?
If you knew anything about Nimda you would realize that you can get infected from simply reading an e-mail using an older version of Outlook, or browsing a web page using an older (but not that old) version of IE.
Yeah you really know the score about NIMDA dont you.
You can get Nimda about seven different ways and 6 of them have nothing to do with running a web server. Just browsing an infected site, something beyond your control, with IE 5.5 sp1 or less was enough.
Turning off people's connection is rude. Asking a 75 year old senior citizen, who is just happy to read a few web pages and send mail to his grandkids to keep up an endless stream of patches because a bunch of hackers can disrupt the net is backwards.
Your anger should be directed at the folks who
1) Created the software
2) Created the hack
Or better yet...instead of whining about it you could actually HELP the folks who are infected, I know I am helping several of my wife's friends who just want a PC to help their kids through school.
So hop off your technological high horse and do something to solve the problem.
Guys...we are at war. The normal rules do not count in war. In times of war the needs of the many outweigh privacy arguments.
If you feel it necessary to communicate privately use regular mail or meet them in the park and simply talk.
Electronic surveillance has done much to already get them on the right path in many cases, and I think we owe it to the country not to whine so much about privacy stuff when the only thing the feds are after are the guys who killed 5000+ of our citizens.
all I want is news and I have to depend on radio and tv?
I also want to be on record to say that whoever did this, whatever country you are from, FUCK YOU....we'll get your lame assess and your silly little statement means nothing to those of us who have grown up free.
Lets face it some people like to click buttons that are poorly documented and others like command line switches that are poorly documented. :)
At some point someone is in charge of the builds, and whatever that person likes we all get. If that person does their job right its easy regardless of what your preference is.
One thing is for certain, it doesn't make sense anymore to build GUI's without the help of a drawing tool that automates that tediousness.
If it weren't for Microsoft....who would post to /.? I mean, MS seems to get alot of airtime around here.
/. is the mole?
I think its a plot to keep all the open sourcers busy commenting and reading and preventing them from coding.
Following that line of thinking it seems that MS has infiltrated deep into the open sorce community. Which leads me to the question....so who at
Troubling very troubling indeed.
I think Mozilla should be taken out back and dealt with in the most humane way as possible. Its a non starter folks.
Polish up your resumes guys,and start recruituing volunteers to help you run /..
From the article:
And VA needs a proven business model. It reported revenue of $16 million Thursday; most of its loss was from its abandonment of Linux computer sales in favor of software and services. The company said $267 million of the loss was from non-cash charges for goodwill, intangible assets and restructuring charges because of VA's departure from the computer business
If we trusted them this might not be so bad. They ARE trying to make the end user expereince better. they are trying to say that drivers that are certified to work will be allowed.
The problem is though...we really do not trust them. I like MS and I don't trust them.
On the bright side though, this seems more like a hardware issue. Except for mice/keyboards/joysticks there isn't a wholelot of hardware MS sells. Thats not to say though that they wouldn't blackball a competitor of a favored hardware manufacturer that pays them a little extra cash to get their hardware/driver certified.
It seems to me that if what it takes to pass the test is out in the open, and it really is in MS's best interest to do that, there shouldn't be a p[roblem. I have always said that the reason why MS seemed so unstable was because the device drivers and the devices really didn't play well with Windows despite the Windows certified logo.
...they must have...somehow.
...because the site is very busy. Who says Linux is ruled by vi and hand made make files. How many people *really* enjoy doing that?
:)
Anyway...I think this is good move by Borland to generate some interest in their development environment.
I find it funny that there are people in the Linux world who condemn Borland for not totally opening up the source to Kylix. My advice to them is "If you don't like it, the build your own development system." When you have one that you think is good enough and can do more than debug "hello world" release it to the world and feel very happy that you did it.
Unfortunately it will not feed your family.....oh but thats right....most Linux bigots are still in their late teens or are still in college where the world is very rosy.
Have fun building the tool kids...in the mean time us adults have to solve a few of the worlds problems, and cloning Kylix is not one of them
The average PDA user, even more so than the average PC user, willc are less what OS is inside as long as they can organize themselves reasonably well, and connect to the office internet conveniently.
I think thats why the Palm OS has been so successful. Its simplicty over features, although with the recent iPaq success that might start to change. The iPaqs are not simple, but feature rich (and cost as much as a reasonably sized pc these days).
YALB
Yet another Linux Bigot.
I guess it doesn't matter that people LIKE shockwave and there are more people who have *forgotten* how to use shockwave then have *ever* used linux.
Oh and by the way. Linux, it seems, doesn't innovate, it copies. Perhaps if Linux had some sort of ActiveX support to begin with, or at least a standard component model all developers could easily write to, then perhaps linux would have a chance on the desktop.
Good luck to the KDE folks who are making this happen.
The Open Source folks really crack me up. MS has invested 4 years and hundreds of thousands of man hours in the development of .NET and the open source folks think they can hunker down for a weekend and pull it out of their collective asses.
.NET.
What a joke.
If open source was so good at innovating then why are they always playing catchup?
I think you guys should go back to doing what you do best...arguing over the library used in KDE, or better yet, arguing about which desktop you should use...KDE or Gnome. There you will feel happier, be more content, and be surrounded by the ones you love.
Meanwhile, the rest of us are going to blow you away with what we are able to do in
It is so obvious to me that the majority of people on ti sboard do not have the slightest clue as to what .NET is, what it means, or how to program for it.
.NET.
Do yourselves a favor and pick up this book from O'Reilly ".NET Framework Essentials" ISBN 0-596-00165-7
Read it, then have an opinion. Most of the posts on this board are drivel with regard to
If you don't know the words...don't sing the song.
Anyone who has been to Wildwood NJ should immediately be thinking about that annoying message:
Watch The Tram Car Please
...it was supposed to be the next Dell.
Flame out.
It always seemed odd to me that adding a free OS to a box seemed to make it cost more than a Windows box.
....would still be in use 30 years later.
Just last week I integrated some Fortran code into a DLL that will wind up on several hundred desktops. It does regressions.
The regression code was written about 30 years ago. It still runs as good today as it did 30 years ago.
When was the last time you wrote something that will run exactly as you wrote it 30 years from now?
It would be nice to see Fortran moved into the CLRE framework MS is proposing to make cross language issues less tedious.
To say that a child at the age of 11 has a right to view everything on the internet as a statement against censorship is cutting off your nose to spite your face.
I mean there are way worse things to worry about than whether or not you are censoring stuff off of the internet. I mean...why not just allow your daughter to go to an X-rated movie at the age of 11...I mean if you didn't allow it you would be censoring her right? Right?!
I guess they didn't spend any of their money on advertising.