It should be realatively easy to trick SDMI players into thinking everything is kosher when in reality you can do anything you want with the data file. This has probably already been done. It's a simple matter of programming:)
I'm not sure that this is the same thing. My mpeg movie does not contain anything hidden in it, it just is. You could replace the mpeg with say the King James Bible which is freely available on the net. I think in this case, the only component that could be deemed illegal would be the instructions to transform the input file to DeCss. Now if you could create the instructions such that given a different input file, it would create a different fully legal output such as an image or an original piece of music, it would be very hard to ban the instructions or prove an illegal activity unless there were explicit links between the sources.
I've always wondered at what point a set of random bits become a piece of illegal or forbidden information? Suppose for example I had an large data file that is entirely legal, say a mpeg of my kid's birthday party. Then I wrote a program that is capable of taking the mpeg file plus a file containing a sequence of commands and creating an output file. Suppose the commands looked like this:
print byte 59821
print (byte 33 + 1)
print bit 12
So what this is doing is just taking the input stream and rearranging it to construct an output stream. Now suppose the output stream just happened to look an awful lot like a gziped tar file of the DeCSS source code.
Which part of this system is illegal? Is it my home movie? Is it the filter program that simply processes some instructs and transforms a file. Is it the instructions? Or is it the combination of all of the above? What if these pieces are kept on different machines, who is the one providing the illegal content then?
I if you like the products that Corel is providing, and are getting good use out of them, please support them by going out and buying a copy. I think the one thing that can slow or derail the Linux freight train is that the companies that are taking a big chance on the Linux bandwagon, fail to make money at it. This goes not only for Corel, but RedHat, Borland and even Sun.
I know most of us don't get support for Linux from that companies that we work for, even though they spend tons on inferior products made by a certain other company. But if you can get your boss to fork over $100 for a Linux office suite instead of the big price they pay for that other one, do it!
I tend to buy products on the track record of the company and their previous products. Hmm, windows nt, gee my office mate who uses it was just screeming at a blue screen of death not more than an hour ago. Hmm, 40+ million lines of new code in w2k from a company that can only get something somewhat stable after selling you half a dozen upgrades. Yes, i'd say that anyone who has ever used nt and goes out and buys w2k because they hope that somehow it will be stable is stupid. Anyone that doesn't use nt and is thinking about w2k should really look around for something better.
This is exactly the sort of thing M$ does. I remember being a t Netscape Developers Conference and there were Microsurfs outside handing out copies of ie and invitations to a M$ party with free beer and t-shirts. (I gave my shirt to a bum on the street:)) Anyway, let them have a taste of their own medicene. The point is to tell people that would be stupid enough to buy w2k that there is a better solution, if the linux gets some publicity at Bill's expense, it's fine by me.
Has any one got this? I saw it at future shop before christmas and it was about half the price of the main mindstorms set. Is it usable stand-alone or do you need the base set. Can it be programed?
No, it's not being close minded, it's I'm not going to pay money to see a performer I don't like. The people that star in a movie are a large part of it's selling value or lack there of. I saw the Truman Show and while Carrey was tolerable in it, I think it would have been much better with someone else. I'll probably end up watching TMITM on an airplane or on TV but I don't think that I want to fork over $8 given a better that 50/50 chance that i won't like it because I don't like the star.
Just because 4Front charges for the oss drivers does not make them evil. If i'm not mistaken they do also provide freebee drivers for many sound cards. I personally bought the oss drivers because it was the only way to get sound out of my machine. It worked, it was worth $30.
This plugin contest is not about them trying to scam people into writing free code that they intend to sell. It's about providing some insentive to get people to contribute and make xmms a much better thing.
I'd much rather live in the Linux world where people give stuff away up to the point where they need to get money to help make the development work worth while, rather than the windows world where everything is crippled or time bombed shareware.
He's been in the industry for years but does not seem to understand how badly M$ has screwed it up. Instead he goes off babbling about OS/2 and other bearly relavent issues. He also brushes of the clear facts that M$ does have a monopoly and they use it as a weapon to crush anything that threatens them. The have hurt the consumer, they have hurt developers, they have stifled inovation.
The government site posted the thing in Wordperfect format:). Unfortunatley the first two times I tried to read a summary of the finding at CNET, netscape crashed:(
If I don't pay the renewal on my domain name, I lose it right? The question is: Since, I got it from Network Solutions, am I forced to renew it there? Or can I renew it somewhere else cheaper. What exactly am I get from Network Solutions, I would guess that it's a refereal from their top level name servers. Can someone explain this, or point to some information on how the system works?
I absolutely agree, having just come off of a job search where I got to talk to a lot of different companies, I was very suprised a how extensively CORBA is used. No one that I talked to even mentioned DCOM. Much as M$ would like people to think differently, no large companies run their enterpise systems on nt, it's all Sun, AS400, HP and mainframes. As soon as you rule out a homogeneous M$ envroinment, you rule out DCOM.
I think ./ needs to add a new moderation level call either gripe(-5) or whine(-5)
This is going to cause someone to write a windoze virus or trojan to do the same thing, just to prove it's not a Unix problem.
:)
Any takers
Probably the 63% of americans that have never owned a computer
It should be realatively easy to trick SDMI players into thinking everything is kosher when in reality you can do anything you want with the data file. This has probably already been done. It's a simple matter of programming :)
Which did not work at all.
Isn't it just a big LDAP server?
I'm not sure that this is the same thing. My mpeg movie does not contain anything hidden in it, it just is. You could replace the mpeg with say the King James Bible which is freely available on the net. I think in this case, the only component that could be deemed illegal would be the instructions to transform the input file to DeCss. Now if you could create the instructions such that given a different input file, it would create a different fully legal output such as an image or an original piece of music, it would be very hard to ban the instructions or prove an illegal activity unless there were explicit links between the sources.
So what this is doing is just taking the input stream and rearranging it to construct an output stream. Now suppose the output stream just happened to look an awful lot like a gziped tar file of the DeCSS source code.
Which part of this system is illegal? Is it my home movie? Is it the filter program that simply processes some instructs and transforms a file. Is it the instructions? Or is it the combination of all of the above? What if these pieces are kept on different machines, who is the one providing the illegal content then?
I know most of us don't get support for Linux from that companies that we work for, even though they spend tons on inferior products made by a certain other company. But if you can get your boss to fork over $100 for a Linux office suite instead of the big price they pay for that other one, do it!
I tend to buy products on the track record of the company and their previous products. Hmm, windows nt, gee my office mate who uses it was just screeming at a blue screen of death not more than an hour ago. Hmm, 40+ million lines of new code in w2k from a company that can only get something somewhat stable after selling you half a dozen upgrades. Yes, i'd say that anyone who has ever used nt and goes out and buys w2k because they hope that somehow it will be stable is stupid. Anyone that doesn't use nt and is thinking about w2k should really look around for something better.
This is exactly the sort of thing M$ does. I remember being a t Netscape Developers Conference and there were Microsurfs outside handing out copies of ie and invitations to a M$ party with free beer and t-shirts. (I gave my shirt to a bum on the street :)) Anyway, let them have a taste of their own medicene. The point is to tell people that would be stupid enough to buy w2k that there is a better solution, if the linux gets some publicity at Bill's expense, it's fine by me.
The revolution will be televised!
Does anyone know if 4.0 will support new keyboards like the logitech internet keyboard. I beleive these keyboards send multiple byte key sequences.
Has any one got this? I saw it at future shop before christmas and it was about half the price of the main mindstorms set. Is it usable stand-alone or do you need the base set. Can it be programed?
No, it's not being close minded, it's I'm not going to pay money to see a performer I don't like. The people that star in a movie are a large part of it's selling value or lack there of. I saw the Truman Show and while Carrey was tolerable in it, I think it would have been much better with someone else. I'll probably end up watching TMITM on an airplane or on TV but I don't think that I want to fork over $8 given a better that 50/50 chance that i won't like it because I don't like the star.
I won't see the movie because he's in it, I hate stupid humour. A movie containing real footage of Andy would have been much more interesting. IMHO
I remember him from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.
Here's a listing of what he did.
If Stevie gets his sight back, he's going to kill whoever has been dressing him all these years :)
LoudCloud
:)
I'll bet that cost Marc a fortune
Just because 4Front charges for the oss drivers does not make them evil. If i'm not mistaken they do also provide freebee drivers for many sound cards. I personally bought the oss drivers because it was the only way to get sound out of my machine. It worked, it was worth $30.
This plugin contest is not about them trying to scam people into writing free code that they intend to sell. It's about providing some insentive to get people to contribute and make xmms a much better thing.
I'd much rather live in the Linux world where people give stuff away up to the point where they need to get money to help make the development work worth while, rather than the windows world where everything is crippled or time bombed shareware.
> Which part of did you not agree with?
He's been in the industry for years but does not seem to understand how badly M$ has screwed it up. Instead he goes off babbling about OS/2 and other bearly relavent issues. He also brushes of the clear facts that M$ does have a monopoly and they use it as a weapon to crush anything that threatens them. The have hurt the consumer, they have hurt developers, they have stifled inovation.
He just doesn't get it.
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http://www.byte.com/column/BYT19991108S0001
Every account i've seen so far praises the judge for clearly seeing and understanding the issues. Then there's Jerry
The government site posted the thing in Wordperfect format :). Unfortunatley the first two times I tried to read a summary of the finding at CNET, netscape crashed :(
If I don't pay the renewal on my domain name, I lose it right? The question is: Since, I got it from Network Solutions, am I forced to renew it there? Or can I renew it somewhere else cheaper. What exactly am I get from Network Solutions, I would guess that it's a refereal from their top level name servers. Can someone explain this, or point to some information on how the system works?
I absolutely agree, having just come off of a job search where I got to talk to a lot of different companies, I was very suprised a how extensively CORBA is used. No one that I talked to even mentioned DCOM. Much as M$ would like people to think differently, no large companies run their enterpise systems on nt, it's all Sun, AS400, HP and mainframes. As soon as you rule out a homogeneous M$ envroinment, you rule out DCOM.
Any one know if they include an ATI Rage 128 server. I'm using the Suse one and it's great. very sharp, no hoizontal lines, ... Nice.