Berlin is not a window manager, it's a full blown windowing system. ie. it's a replacement for X not for fvwm! I don't know if it is API compatable or not, I hope so!
This does not bode well for the future of large corporations. I wish people would stop things like this, and I hate Microsoft but I don't want the government to mess around in private enterprise. This is not about goverment intervention in private business, this is simply a case where free enterprise has fallen out of control and the goverment must step in and push things back in line. Microsoft has clearly abused their position and power. They have and will continue to use their monopoly positions in both operating systems and applications to push themselves deeper and lock out any chance of competition. If the government doesn't slap them down who can and will?
This is what I mean. From the Orbit Beginners Documentation FAQ
Does ORBit work with other ORBs?
Yes. This is one of the primary features of CORBA, and available through the Internet Inter-ORB Protocol (IIOP). There is one pitfall: ORBit has a proprietary security mechanism to authenticate clients. If interoperability is desired then you might have to figure out a work around for this.
As a Java programmer, I would like to play with the Orbit, the Gnome ORB, from a Java program. So far I have not seen any information as to how to do this. I've asked the gnome list and no one there could help me. From what I understand Orbit more or less a standard Corba ORB but it uses some sort of different authentication scheme. Does this make it incompatable with other ORBs, or does it still work? Can anyone provide pointers or information on this?
Yeah I trust her. I think this is the same person that basically pissed away $1 Billion in grants that she couldn't really account for, most of which went to her own riding (someone please correct me or provide the details if i'm wrong).
I always hated the OSF for forcing one of the major splits in the Unix world. They were a knee jerk response to Sun and AT&T trying to create a unified base for Unix to move forward. The only useful thing OSF ever came up with was motif, but it was never open. I could never figure out why they would push it as a standard UI while pricing it out of reach of the hacking community. I suppose it's too late now that we have gtk+ and qt, but it would still be nice to be able to download and install the motif RPMs for free so that we can build xmcd and other useful apps.
I'm very confused, where in my post did i include any part of M$'s information? I've never even downloaded or read it in whole or in part. I can't understand why you or the evil empire thinks that i did? Here is what I said in it's entirety:
What happens to the people that implement it (ie. the Samba guys) even if they obtain the information without intentionally breaking the license. Are they exposing themselves to expensive litigation? Are they endangering the project?
I suspect that the fact that it's included is simply a bug in their legal process that will be resolved in "Microsoft Notice of Copyright Infringement under the Digitial Millennium Copyright Act 2.0"
Having wrote that article I was suprised and pleased to be in the list. I suspect however that the fact that it's included is simply a bug in their legal process that will be resolved in "Microsoft Notice of Copyright Infringement under the Digitial Millennium Copyright Act 2.0"
Sure writing the script is easy to do. The hard part is to mail it to pine/elm/.. users and get their mailer to automatically execute it when they open their mail. In Outlook this is appearent easy to do. Thats why Outlook is so evil, this current virus seems to execute as soon as the victim opens their mail.
How anyone could write an application with such a feature is beyond me. Why anyone would willingly install the thing on their machine is also beyond me. Which brings me back to the point of my original post. System admins and IT managers need to be made well aware of what they are getting into when they base their corporate email system on this crap. I work for a large investment bank and our email has been down for over half a day now because of this thing. I can't even guess how much it's costing the firm.
This is the second time in a couple of months that I've been at a company where this sort of thing has gone around and around. Companys really need to be aware of the consequences of using Outlook and Exchange. This does not happen when you are using Sendmail and a regular POP3 or IMAP client.
What happens to the people that implement it (ie. the Samba guys) even if they obtain the information without intentionally breaking the license. Are they exposing themselves to expensive litigation? Are they endangering the project?
It looks to me like you have to sign up for 2 years of service in order to qualify for the rebate. So this machine really isn't a $50 toy, unless of course you want to get their service:)
This is clearly not enough. I recommend, shutting the company down, giving away the source code, dispensing the bank accounts to the Free Software Foundation, and public execution of the executive officers after an appropriate period of stoning.:)
What they lose is they legitimize a platform that they often tell people is "not up to the job" and "not robust enough". Plus they help pave the way to loosen their death grip on the market. If I were an IT manager, i'd look at this and think. Hmm maybe I really can replace windows on the desktop, get a lot more stable environment but not have to give up all those bloody applications that i paid through the nose for.
I can see that this is good for Vmware as it solves some potential worries about M$ attacking them through licensing schemes that only allow windoze to be run on actual hardware. I guess this is good for VMware users because it might mean that windoze runs better on VMware and better supports the virtual machine. But what I don't get is why this is good for M$, what do they gain? What they lose is that they are helping people make the break to a more stable platform and relegating windoze to be simply an application launcher and runtime environment.
I guess this makes sense if they are only selling the machines at a loss to get people on their service. On the other hand, i thought that they were happy that all of the sudden there were thousands of slashdotters interested in buying their equipment.
Oh well, what states are these sort of agreements invalid in again?
Remember microsoft's heavy handed overraction and the brute force they used to try to push Netscape out of business when they decided that a web browse was a threat to their monopoly simply because it ran java applets and supported plugins. Wow how are they going to react when they see the possibilities that Mozilla provides as a cross platform base for developing really cool apps. If you don't understand what I'm saying do a little research and you will see that Mozilla is really as much like a web browser as Emacs is a text editor. Check out XMLTerm for an example of what is possible.
They seem to make some effort to suppor Linux, so why don't we do a slashdot interview with someone who has some authority and ask them. Here are my questions:
1. How far does Real's commitment to Linux go?
2. Is there any hope that Real will be the ones to provide use with the codec's that are currently unavailable?
3. How can the Linux community help real get the media play out of beta on our platform?
4. What incentives can we provide to make the effort worth while?
Can anyone provide a pointer to the the features of this player? Can it play any video codecs not currently available under linux. For example quicktime and mpeg4?
This is the typical M$ trick of preannouncing vapour to try to give people second thoughts about buying a competators product. It seem to me that this is clearly aimed at the playstation 2. Probably because it is not windows based and offers a real threat to them in functionality.
There are many optical backup systems that do pretty much this. They may not scan looking for identical files, but they do automaticall migrate files to a near line storage system and replace the original with a link. Absolutely nothing is new with the M$ approach.
I've always thought that M$ shortcuts were their typically broken attempt at symbolic links. If this is suppose to be their attempt at hard links I guess it will be just as twisted.
Let's make sure that they don't get a patent on this!
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Berlin is not a window manager, it's a full blown windowing system. ie. it's a replacement for X not for fvwm! I don't know if it is API compatable or not, I hope so!
This does not bode well for the future of large corporations. I wish people would stop things like this, and I hate Microsoft but I don't want the government to mess around in private enterprise. This is not about goverment intervention in private business, this is simply a case where free enterprise has fallen out of control and the goverment must step in and push things back in line. Microsoft has clearly abused their position and power. They have and will continue to use their monopoly positions in both operating systems and applications to push themselves deeper and lock out any chance of competition. If the government doesn't slap them down who can and will?
This is what I mean. From the Orbit Beginners Documentation FAQ
Does ORBit work with other ORBs?
Yes. This is one of the primary features of CORBA, and available through the Internet Inter-ORB Protocol (IIOP). There is one pitfall: ORBit has a proprietary security mechanism to authenticate clients. If interoperability is desired then you might have to figure out a work around for this.
As a Java programmer, I would like to play with the Orbit, the Gnome ORB, from a Java program. So far I have not seen any information as to how to do this. I've asked the gnome list and no one there could help me. From what I understand Orbit more or less a standard Corba ORB but it uses some sort of different authentication scheme. Does this make it incompatable with other ORBs, or does it still work? Can anyone provide pointers or information on this?
Yeah I trust her. I think this is the same person that basically pissed away $1 Billion in grants that she couldn't really account for, most of which went to her own riding (someone please correct me or provide the details if i'm wrong).
I always hated the OSF for forcing one of the major splits in the Unix world. They were a knee jerk response to Sun and AT&T trying to create a unified base for Unix to move forward. The only useful thing OSF ever came up with was motif, but it was never open. I could never figure out why they would push it as a standard UI while pricing it out of reach of the hacking community. I suppose it's too late now that we have gtk+ and qt, but it would still be nice to be able to download and install the motif RPMs for free so that we can build xmcd and other useful apps.
I'm very confused, where in my post did i include any part of M$'s information? I've never even downloaded or read it in whole or in part. I can't understand why you or the evil empire thinks that i did? Here is what I said in it's entirety:
What happens to the people that implement it (ie. the Samba guys) even if they obtain the information without intentionally breaking the license. Are they exposing themselves to expensive litigation? Are they endangering the project?
I suspect that the fact that it's included is simply a bug in their legal process that will be resolved in "Microsoft Notice of Copyright Infringement under the Digitial Millennium Copyright Act 2.0"
Having wrote that article I was suprised and pleased to be in the list. I suspect however that the fact that it's included is simply a bug in their legal process that will be resolved in "Microsoft Notice of Copyright Infringement under the Digitial Millennium Copyright Act 2.0"
Sure writing the script is easy to do. The hard part is to mail it to pine/elm/.. users and get their mailer to automatically execute it when they open their mail. In Outlook this is appearent easy to do. Thats why Outlook is so evil, this current virus seems to execute as soon as the victim opens their mail.
How anyone could write an application with such a feature is beyond me. Why anyone would willingly install the thing on their machine is also beyond me. Which brings me back to the point of my original post. System admins and IT managers need to be made well aware of what they are getting into when they base their corporate email system on this crap. I work for a large investment bank and our email has been down for over half a day now because of this thing. I can't even guess how much it's costing the firm.
vCard and vCalendar.
Sure I do. I just get the benefit of choosing which calendar I want to use. These things should all be standards based.
This is the second time in a couple of months that I've been at a company where this sort of thing has gone around and around. Companys really need to be aware of the consequences of using Outlook and Exchange. This does not happen when you are using Sendmail and a regular POP3 or IMAP client.
What happens to the people that implement it (ie. the Samba guys) even if they obtain the information without intentionally breaking the license. Are they exposing themselves to expensive litigation? Are they endangering the project?
It looks to me like you have to sign up for 2 years of service in order to qualify for the rebate. So this machine really isn't a $50 toy, :)
unless of course you want to get their service
This is clearly not enough. :)
I recommend, shutting the company down, giving away the source code, dispensing the bank accounts to the Free Software Foundation, and public execution of the executive officers after an appropriate period of stoning.
"And what exactly do they lose by that?"
What they lose is they legitimize a platform that they often tell people is "not up to the job" and "not robust enough". Plus they help pave the way to loosen their death grip on the market. If I were an IT manager, i'd look at this and think. Hmm maybe I really can replace windows on the desktop, get a lot more stable environment but not have to give up all those bloody applications that i paid through the nose for.
I can see that this is good for Vmware as it solves some potential worries about M$ attacking them through licensing schemes that only allow windoze to be run on actual hardware. I guess this is good for VMware users because it might mean that windoze runs better on VMware and better supports the virtual machine. But what I don't get is why this is good for M$, what do they gain? What they lose is that they are helping people make the break to a more stable platform and relegating windoze to be simply an application launcher and runtime environment.
I guess this makes sense if they are only selling the machines at a loss to get people on their service. On the other hand, i thought that they were happy that all of the sudden there were thousands of slashdotters interested in buying their equipment.
Oh well, what states are these sort of agreements invalid in again?
Remember microsoft's heavy handed overraction and the brute force they used to try to push Netscape out of business when they decided that a web browse was a threat to their monopoly simply because it ran java applets and supported plugins. Wow how are they going to react when they see the possibilities that Mozilla provides as a cross platform base for developing really cool apps. If you don't understand what I'm saying do a little research and you will see that Mozilla is really as much like a web browser as Emacs is a text editor. Check out XMLTerm for an example of what is possible.
They seem to make some effort to suppor Linux, so why don't we do a slashdot interview with someone who has some authority and ask them. Here are my questions:
1. How far does Real's commitment to Linux go?
2. Is there any hope that Real will be the ones to provide use with the codec's that are currently unavailable?
3. How can the Linux community help real get the media play out of beta on our platform?
4. What incentives can we provide to make the effort worth while?
Can anyone provide a pointer to the the features of this player? Can it play any video codecs not currently available under linux. For example quicktime and mpeg4?
This is the typical M$ trick of preannouncing vapour to try to give people second thoughts about buying a competators product. It seem to me that this is clearly aimed at the playstation 2. Probably because it is not windows based and offers a real threat to them in functionality.
There are many optical backup systems that do pretty much this. They may not scan looking for identical files, but they do automaticall migrate files to a near line storage system and replace the original with a link. Absolutely nothing is new with the M$ approach.
I've always thought that M$ shortcuts were their typically broken attempt at symbolic links. If this is suppose to be their attempt at hard links I guess it will be just as twisted.
Let's make sure that they don't get a patent on this!