I've tried minimizing it, resizing it, you name it. I guess my point is - this is a basic windows/linux/mac application. If they would have simply stuck to traditional methods for doing this sort of thing, the browser would be more usuable. They can always add "fancy" look and feel features later - when the browser is actually usable. I just got so frustrated with it I had to stop using it.
I have submitted a few bugs here and there since I first started using Mozilla about 2 years ago. I tried on many different occaisions to use it as my primary email client and web browser on windows - but it just doesn't work for me for 5 reasons:
1) When switching between inboxes on different mail servers it forgets your last selected messages. This is annoying as hell when I have over 1000 messages in both my inboxes. I have reported this bug well over a year ago.
2) You're supposed to be able to type in a "nickname" of somebody in your addressbook just like good old netscape 4.7X when using the mail client. Well, sometimes Mozilla feels like auto completing the email address with the one in your address book, and other times it doesn't work. Annoying to say the least when trying to compose a message.
3) I have a laptop which has an ATI mobile graphics card in it (I'm not sure if this matters) running Windows 2000. When I open Mozilla up, I get little black evenly spaced dots or dashes at random across the URL bar. It only does this in windows, and apparently only on my laptop using the ATI card. I have the latest ATI drivers. This just looks awful, and makes it so I can't even read the URL. This has been the case for the last 2 years, and it ONLY does this with Mozilla, and no other application I have ever used.
4) Mozilla seems to render pages extremely slowly and choppy. What I mean is, if you take it to a page that has a huge select box on it inside a form with over 1000 entries that is showing multiple rows, say 10 for example, the browser freaks out and takes about 15 seconds on my machine to load it. It does some weird stuff in the mean time, like move the box width around, put scroll bars at strange points on the screen, etc.
5) My largest gripe by a mile with Mozilla has to be this - this is non-platform-specific. I've had this happen on Mac OS X, Red Hat Linux, and Windows 98, 2000, and XP. The first instance of the browser I open allows me to type in form fields and type in the URL bar. Open up a second instance of the browser, and you can't type anywhere. My mouse then becomes the only input I have with the screen. I have to completely close mozilla, mail client and all, and restart it to be able to type in the form fields and url bar again. WTF? Oh, and sometimes when I look in the task manager under windows after completely thinking I closed mozilla, I'll still see mozilla.exe running, and have to kill it from the process manager in windows 2000. I can't verify if this happens with a mac or linux, but I do have the typing problems there as well. Isn't this a major thing that other people should have noticed?
So, I'm not trying to rag on the mozilla developers since they are doing a great thing - I just think that these 5 bugs are very major, and should have been fixed well before version 1.0. In my opinion, those 5 things are completely holding Mozilla back from becoming widely used and accepted. I hope they get them fixed before version 1.1 or 2.0.
No, I'm not concerned at all. They are games - and I hate people that blame kids going ballistic and shooting people on the games or movies, rather than on the dumb asses who gave or sold them the guns, and the bastards that constantly made fun of them. Instead of choosing to go on a shooting rampage and kill their classmates, let's say they decided to burn the school down, or put a massive bomb in the school. Should we then say that kids can't the news in case they show terrorist acts on it? If the kids have their parents permission, then I'm not concerned about the violence in games at all. Parents should know how their kids react to stuff like that better than anyone, so let them decide.
I think this is a great thing you're doing - I
have friends in similar positions at schools, and we were just discussing doing this sort of thing. It does keep kids out of trouble doing other things, and it really lets kids see how computer labs at schools can be used for something besides "school stuff". Games I would suggest would be like Quake, Doom, Unreal Tournament, etc. Granted - you would definitely have to have parents permission first, but then I think it would be ok.
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I strongly disagree - I think the most interesting linux news is when the new kernel releases come out. I think this should be a slash poll to see what everyone else thinks.
I'm tired of people bitching about this kind of thing, yet refusing to put in a little work to stop it. What can we do? Simple - boycott movies, TV, and music. For example, ever since the anti-rip features have been added to a CD, I haven't bought a single disc. I used to buy a lot of music, now I just listen to the radio on my way to work. Imagine what would happen if everybody who objects to this insane copy right control would fight it like I do with music. So, I simply call to anyone who cares to do the following:
Stop buying DVDs.
Cancel your cable subscriptions and don't buy tvs. (Yes, this is the hardest, but if we all get together and set a month or two and all do it at once - without people watching and paying for TV, they lose money.)
Don't buy music discs.
Now, if we all work together and get organized, they can never win. They only win if we don't do anything and keep throwing our money in their bank accounts.
I think you mean well, but letting M$ do what they want like they have for the past decade or so will bring us down further. My company can barely afford the windows 2000 licenses we had to buy, and we will NEVER buy XP because we can't afford it, and ofcourse we don't have a reason to.... that is, unless these bastards make it so we have to. Meaning, that only the latest OS will support their new programs and what not. This is why we NEED the government to keep them in line.
Yeah, by making a friendly virus, you're closing the back doors, but who cares really? A friendly virus would be *just* as damaging bandwidth wise, would it not? So, you'd be adding another damn virus to the mix, eating up more and more bandwidth... do the world a favor, and DON'T try to do this.
I tend to buy the distros for my company because we use the heck out of the books that come with. For us, it sure beats surfing around the web looking for the docs, or using pico or something to read the READMEs. Red Hat ships a great set of docs with 7.1 I think. Windows.... well, honestly I've never bought a copy.
Right, that can and does often happen. I guess my point was simply that a scenario such as this often happens to us:
We get a call from a client in LA for example. "Your website is down". We check the servers, our T1, etc, all check out fine. The client claims they can get to www.ebay.com, so they know the "internet" is working, but our site isn't. What usually happens is that the single route to get from their computer to our website happens to go from their ISP, to their ISP's ISP, to another ISP (which usually is a backbone of some kind), and that's where the problem is. So, by this person calling us, and not having a clue who their ISP is or even their IP address, we can't do a damn thing to help them. We run a tax website, and we have had several clients complain because our site is down, and they can't enter their info to have their taxes done on April 14th at 11 PM. I'm sorry, but relying on the internet for important business transactions is like using the US Postal Service to send an important package that must arrive on time in one piece:)
Um, NO. When one of our clients complains our site is down, and it's not, it's not specifically our ISP or theirs. Do you even realize how many hops there are between your computer and a website?? You're probably traveling through about 15 routers, or more, along the way, through different networks depending on what site you go to. The internet isn't just some big ass straight line that an ISP just has a connection to, it's a bunch of small networks combined to form a big one, with a few larger networks holding most of them together. Yeah, if your ISP is to blame, fine. But, for the most part, a router that goes out in Kansas City can be the downfall of our website in Denver for someone who tries to access it from LA.
I also have an IBM think pad A21M at work, and I'm loving it. I have it set to dual boot, Win2k and Linux. I use Red Hat 7.1 from home, and win2k here at work because I have to:( But, everything amazing worked on the first try, it didn't take any special configurations to get my X desktop or sound working.
If Adobe gets this the way they want, the name will change. No big deal, right? Wrong. If Adobe can do this, what does that mean about Xwindows? Microsoft could force the same issue with the Windows trademark if KIllustrator gives into this dangerous demand. I say they should go to work and force a ruling, but that's just me...
I agree 100%. Anybody ever burn cds with linux? Yeah, that's right... there ARE other cd recording programs out there. So, don't worry about it. Roxio isn't the only ball game in town, and even if they were, somebody will write a "non-compliant" burning program that isn't buddy-buddy with EMI. So, no big deal here.
I understand all that stuff, but here's the bottom line. They *will* eventually have people using their technology to copy DVDs. How? Same way people started using modchips in playstations, and other various hacked hardware. Apple may not intend for this to happen, but anyway... but we're just getting off topic here. My point is, they encourage the freedom of inovation, freedom of "thinking different", etc. Just look at Darwin, for the most part. When they try to go after people for making themes that "look alike" when compared to theirs, they go balistic. Something's not right here...
Apple is allowing people to "copy" DVDs with their new Macs, and THAT's ok. The minute someone tries to write open source software allowing their users to edit Mac OS X themes, that's suddenly a crime against THEIR copyrights and intellectual property?!?!?!? Apple - BITE ME.
I agree with you for the most part, when I tell people I used JavaScript to write something, they always ask "Oh, is Java cool?". But, I disagree with you here:
I think the best way to tell the difference is the salary difference between JavaScript and Java programmers.:-)
I get paid quite well, thanks, and I don't program in java because I use SQL, JavaScript, HTML, and Cold Fusion or PHP to write sweet looking dynamic web pages.
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If Apple would have done that to begin with (ported Mac OS to x86), the OS competition would have intensified, and we wouldn't be seeing prices like $499 for a damn copy of Windows 2000. Plus, the OS would have to keep getting better and better to outpace Windows. Then, you have to think about drivers. Would companies like Nvidia, ATI, and the like write drivers for OS X? I bet they would. Look at what they're already doing, writing drivers that actually do work with OS X on the Motorola platform.
So, all in all, if Apple doesn't do this, Windows will continue to be more bloated, cost more, and be the only commercial choice. Yes, linux is there, and I love it to death. I'm just afraid it's getting so fragmented, with each linux company putting out their own method for doing things. It can really tear the community apart if we're not careful. I think it would be great to have yet another choice for an OS on the x86 platform, so come Apple, step up!!
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I agree for the most part with the authors up top. The technical side of things was pretty sweet. Except for the fact that we're supposed to believe that from a single computer, you can send a video signal via satellites to every hand held and TV screen in America. I would have to assume that these huge broadcasting companies would give access to Microsoft (OOOPS, I mean Nurv) that would allow them to send a pirate signal over the regular broadcast.
Also, if these guys could zoom in on a person's desktop while they are working, and "steal" code, couldn't they find out what their most valued employee was up to?
Also, these smart open source "hackers" that just graduated, they seemed to be all about venture capital. Yes, they meant to give away the code, but the constant drive for venture capital was annoying. Also, the last scene in the movie was cheesy as hell.
I will give it huge props though for the constant shots of Gnome. I hope this made people realize how functional a Linux workstation can be, and how it can be customized for your needs.
NSI sucks. I have been trying to get several domains that they are holding, even though the person who originally had them did not renew them. Yet, NSI would not release them. I'm joining the suit!! I have emails to prove what they said...
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I've tried minimizing it, resizing it, you name it. I guess my point is - this is a basic windows/linux/mac application. If they would have simply stuck to traditional methods for doing this sort of thing, the browser would be more usuable. They can always add "fancy" look and feel features later - when the browser is actually usable. I just got so frustrated with it I had to stop using it.
I have submitted a few bugs here and there since I first started using Mozilla about 2 years ago. I tried on many different occaisions to use it as my primary email client and web browser on windows - but it just doesn't work for me for 5 reasons:
1) When switching between inboxes on different mail servers it forgets your last selected messages. This is annoying as hell when I have over 1000 messages in both my inboxes. I have reported this bug well over a year ago.
2) You're supposed to be able to type in a "nickname" of somebody in your addressbook just like good old netscape 4.7X when using the mail client. Well, sometimes Mozilla feels like auto completing the email address with the one in your address book, and other times it doesn't work. Annoying to say the least when trying to compose a message.
3) I have a laptop which has an ATI mobile graphics card in it (I'm not sure if this matters) running Windows 2000. When I open Mozilla up, I get little black evenly spaced dots or dashes at random across the URL bar. It only does this in windows, and apparently only on my laptop using the ATI card. I have the latest ATI drivers. This just looks awful, and makes it so I can't even read the URL. This has been the case for the last 2 years, and it ONLY does this with Mozilla, and no other application I have ever used.
4) Mozilla seems to render pages extremely slowly and choppy. What I mean is, if you take it to a page that has a huge select box on it inside a form with over 1000 entries that is showing multiple rows, say 10 for example, the browser freaks out and takes about 15 seconds on my machine to load it. It does some weird stuff in the mean time, like move the box width around, put scroll bars at strange points on the screen, etc.
5) My largest gripe by a mile with Mozilla has to be this - this is non-platform-specific. I've had this happen on Mac OS X, Red Hat Linux, and Windows 98, 2000, and XP. The first instance of the browser I open allows me to type in form fields and type in the URL bar. Open up a second instance of the browser, and you can't type anywhere. My mouse then becomes the only input I have with the screen. I have to completely close mozilla, mail client and all, and restart it to be able to type in the form fields and url bar again. WTF? Oh, and sometimes when I look in the task manager under windows after completely thinking I closed mozilla, I'll still see mozilla.exe running, and have to kill it from the process manager in windows 2000. I can't verify if this happens with a mac or linux, but I do have the typing problems there as well. Isn't this a major thing that other people should have noticed?
So, I'm not trying to rag on the mozilla developers since they are doing a great thing - I just think that these 5 bugs are very major, and should have been fixed well before version 1.0. In my opinion, those 5 things are completely holding Mozilla back from becoming widely used and accepted. I hope they get them fixed before version 1.1 or 2.0.
No, I'm not concerned at all. They are games - and I hate people that blame kids going ballistic and shooting people on the games or movies, rather than on the dumb asses who gave or sold them the guns, and the bastards that constantly made fun of them. Instead of choosing to go on a shooting rampage and kill their classmates, let's say they decided to burn the school down, or put a massive bomb in the school. Should we then say that kids can't the news in case they show terrorist acts on it? If the kids have their parents permission, then I'm not concerned about the violence in games at all. Parents should know how their kids react to stuff like that better than anyone, so let them decide.
I think this is a great thing you're doing - I have friends in similar positions at schools, and we were just discussing doing this sort of thing. It does keep kids out of trouble doing other things, and it really lets kids see how computer labs at schools can be used for something besides "school stuff". Games I would suggest would be like Quake, Doom, Unreal Tournament, etc. Granted - you would definitely have to have parents permission first, but then I think it would be ok.
Ok, so rather than promoting clear channel like you said, I could listen to CDs I already own. Better?
You mean like they probably are already?
I strongly disagree - I think the most interesting linux news is when the new kernel releases come out. I think this should be a slash poll to see what everyone else thinks.
- Stop buying DVDs.
- Cancel your cable subscriptions and don't buy tvs. (Yes, this is the hardest, but if we all get together and set a month or two and all do it at once - without people watching and paying for TV, they lose money.)
- Don't buy music discs.
Now, if we all work together and get organized, they can never win. They only win if we don't do anything and keep throwing our money in their bank accounts.I think you mean well, but letting M$ do what they want like they have for the past decade or so will bring us down further. My company can barely afford the windows 2000 licenses we had to buy, and we will NEVER buy XP because we can't afford it, and ofcourse we don't have a reason to.... that is, unless these bastards make it so we have to. Meaning, that only the latest OS will support their new programs and what not. This is why we NEED the government to keep them in line.
Spell check is always a good idea...
If you make default.ida a php based file, why wouldn't a redirect server side work?
Yeah, by making a friendly virus, you're closing the back doors, but who cares really? A friendly virus would be *just* as damaging bandwidth wise, would it not? So, you'd be adding another damn virus to the mix, eating up more and more bandwidth... do the world a favor, and DON'T try to do this.
I tend to buy the distros for my company because we use the heck out of the books that come with. For us, it sure beats surfing around the web looking for the docs, or using pico or something to read the READMEs. Red Hat ships a great set of docs with 7.1 I think. Windows.... well, honestly I've never bought a copy.
Right, that can and does often happen. I guess my point was simply that a scenario such as this often happens to us:
:)
We get a call from a client in LA for example. "Your website is down". We check the servers, our T1, etc, all check out fine. The client claims they can get to www.ebay.com, so they know the "internet" is working, but our site isn't. What usually happens is that the single route to get from their computer to our website happens to go from their ISP, to their ISP's ISP, to another ISP (which usually is a backbone of some kind), and that's where the problem is. So, by this person calling us, and not having a clue who their ISP is or even their IP address, we can't do a damn thing to help them. We run a tax website, and we have had several clients complain because our site is down, and they can't enter their info to have their taxes done on April 14th at 11 PM. I'm sorry, but relying on the internet for important business transactions is like using the US Postal Service to send an important package that must arrive on time in one piece
Um, NO. When one of our clients complains our site is down, and it's not, it's not specifically our ISP or theirs. Do you even realize how many hops there are between your computer and a website?? You're probably traveling through about 15 routers, or more, along the way, through different networks depending on what site you go to. The internet isn't just some big ass straight line that an ISP just has a connection to, it's a bunch of small networks combined to form a big one, with a few larger networks holding most of them together. Yeah, if your ISP is to blame, fine. But, for the most part, a router that goes out in Kansas City can be the downfall of our website in Denver for someone who tries to access it from LA.
I also have an IBM think pad A21M at work, and I'm loving it. I have it set to dual boot, Win2k and Linux. I use Red Hat 7.1 from home, and win2k here at work because I have to :( But, everything amazing worked on the first try, it didn't take any special configurations to get my X desktop or sound working.
If Adobe gets this the way they want, the name will change. No big deal, right? Wrong. If Adobe can do this, what does that mean about Xwindows? Microsoft could force the same issue with the Windows trademark if KIllustrator gives into this dangerous demand. I say they should go to work and force a ruling, but that's just me...
I agree 100%. Anybody ever burn cds with linux? Yeah, that's right... there ARE other cd recording programs out there. So, don't worry about it. Roxio isn't the only ball game in town, and even if they were, somebody will write a "non-compliant" burning program that isn't buddy-buddy with EMI. So, no big deal here.
I understand all that stuff, but here's the bottom line. They *will* eventually have people using their technology to copy DVDs. How? Same way people started using modchips in playstations, and other various hacked hardware. Apple may not intend for this to happen, but anyway... but we're just getting off topic here. My point is, they encourage the freedom of inovation, freedom of "thinking different", etc. Just look at Darwin, for the most part. When they try to go after people for making themes that "look alike" when compared to theirs, they go balistic. Something's not right here...
Apple is allowing people to "copy" DVDs with their new Macs, and THAT's ok. The minute someone tries to write open source software allowing their users to edit Mac OS X themes, that's suddenly a crime against THEIR copyrights and intellectual property?!?!?!? Apple - BITE ME.
I agree with you for the most part, when I tell people I used JavaScript to write something, they always ask "Oh, is Java cool?". But, I disagree with you here:
:-)
I think the best way to tell the difference is the salary difference between JavaScript and Java programmers.
I get paid quite well, thanks, and I don't program in java because I use SQL, JavaScript, HTML, and Cold Fusion or PHP to write sweet looking dynamic web pages.
If Apple would have done that to begin with (ported Mac OS to x86), the OS competition would have intensified, and we wouldn't be seeing prices like $499 for a damn copy of Windows 2000. Plus, the OS would have to keep getting better and better to outpace Windows. Then, you have to think about drivers. Would companies like Nvidia, ATI, and the like write drivers for OS X? I bet they would. Look at what they're already doing, writing drivers that actually do work with OS X on the Motorola platform.
So, all in all, if Apple doesn't do this, Windows will continue to be more bloated, cost more, and be the only commercial choice. Yes, linux is there, and I love it to death. I'm just afraid it's getting so fragmented, with each linux company putting out their own method for doing things. It can really tear the community apart if we're not careful. I think it would be great to have yet another choice for an OS on the x86 platform, so come Apple, step up!!
I agree for the most part with the authors up top. The technical side of things was pretty sweet. Except for the fact that we're supposed to believe that from a single computer, you can send a video signal via satellites to every hand held and TV screen in America. I would have to assume that these huge broadcasting companies would give access to Microsoft (OOOPS, I mean Nurv) that would allow them to send a pirate signal over the regular broadcast.
Also, if these guys could zoom in on a person's desktop while they are working, and "steal" code, couldn't they find out what their most valued employee was up to?
Also, these smart open source "hackers" that just graduated, they seemed to be all about venture capital. Yes, they meant to give away the code, but the constant drive for venture capital was annoying. Also, the last scene in the movie was cheesy as hell.
I will give it huge props though for the constant shots of Gnome. I hope this made people realize how functional a Linux workstation can be, and how it can be customized for your needs.
NSI sucks. I have been trying to get several domains that they are holding, even though the person who originally had them did not renew them. Yet, NSI would not release them. I'm joining the suit!! I have emails to prove what they said...