You're talking about something completely different now. Legacy binary compatability is a non-issue for the average user. She/He doesn't bring any old software along with them from a Windows 98/2000/XP system. They get their new machine and they start looking for the button to make email and 'the internet' load up on the screen.
The operation of taking the new system out of the package, starting it up, registering it, connecting to WiFi, etc. is the hard part. The 'Friendly' Internet Explorer icon is right there on the Metro Desktop, along with the email button, etc. People can and do just use it.
Novel was the typical topdown networking that only a salaried IT drone could love.
WordPerfect was a hopeless sea of alt-control this-and-that which required a massive keyboard help overlay to be usable. Sure, that one secretary loved it because it was very empowering to be the main expert.
The rest of us were glad when Workgroup networking became feasible. We could install NICs in all the machines in Engineering and tell the IT tard to gtfo. We were glad that Microsoft Word (for MS-DOS) had menus that weren't invisible. We didn't have to turn in our handwritten drafts and wait for the secretary to type them.
I suppose it sucked after awhile to have that Novell certification wallpaper on your cubicle partition that didn't mean anything anymore.
The average user sits down and in a few minutes is back to doing what they want on a Win8 system. The average aspie self-appointed computer expert (the guy everybody in the office asks) suddenly isn't the expert anymore, so he fumes and fumes. Then logs onto Slashdot for reinforcement.
I think you meant to type "Netscape stole the graphical browser from where it was invented, at the NCSA, in the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champagne (UIUC)"
Still, it's a good thing lil' Marc had his wings clipped. One Zack existing in the world is quite enough.
My wife bought a new Windows 8.1 laptop yesterday. I got a new 8.1. tablet last week.
We looked at the abandoned aisle for the Apple stuff at Frys. There wasn't anybody there at all. The sales clerks were busy trying to keep up with the people buying Windows laptops.
Not anymore. You can now get a full x86 tablet with 8.1 for about the same price as a Nexus. It's still not for sure how things will settle, but this might be the point at which Tablets become something more than a toy to the public at large.
It would be a delicious irony if the entry of affordable regular Windows onto Tablets became the hinge point for their mainstream acceptance. Maybe Apple will soon be forced by the market to sell an OSX tablet.
Wow. You can see all of that from your vantage point in France. I imagine it must be gratifying to have the capacity to have things so well figured out with so little actual information flowing your way.
Shouldn't you be out selling the newspaper right now? They're not going to let you sit at the lit table on campus and discuss the finer points of dialectical materialism with the pretty coeds if you don't sell your weekly quota of newspapers.
Clearly "the rich" should pile more goods onto those shelves to be sold at a loss. If they refuse, then soldiers should point guns at them to force them to do so. If entities from outside the country subsequently refuse to continue shipping in goods, after all the "rich" people's money is gone, clearly the UN will have to be empowered to force these outside companies to ship more goods, at a loss, into Venezuela.
RT is gonna die, and fast. There are 8" Windows tablets in the stores now with x86 processors and full 8.1 for under $300. The whole purpose of RT has evaporated.
I have actual experience now running Windows 8. Windows 8 is to Windows 8.1 as Windows 98 was to Second Edition. We will see how far the parallels follow.
Metro is what you give your computer illiterate aunt, with the programs she will be using as big shiny buttons. Anybody more 'literate' than that can use other methods.
If the problems with security in iOS, and the fragmentation/security issues with Android continue, people will go back to the 'doze.
Fragmented, partial and not always that useful Core Dumps when a program crashes? Lotsa folks have had that in the past. Back in the day the Core was just sitting there with it's magnetic domains in place to debug with.
Cost of ownership is more than the price of the actual software. Microsoft isn't out of the woods yet, but don't kid yourself if you think they don't have the staff, support, and mindshare to roll out something that lots of people want to use.
Google is a very casual operation with regard to the software they provide to consumers. Android is rather fragmented now, and you only see ChromeOS being sold on the lowest-price but also lowest-end hardware on a retailer's shelf. And Google's history of abandoning projects that don't pan out makes many people nervous.
Also, the VM model they've adopted for Android will allow for lots of other vendors to produce VMs to run their Apps. I could forsee Microsoft producing a 'Gaming VM' that allows all the nice little games in Googles App Store to run in sandboxes on Windows.
I'd think so too, if I were pirating it from an unknown source. But sites like The Pirate Bay have comment threads attached to their linked warez, and people do chime in when they find unexpected malware. So you only download well-seeded isos that have lengthy comment threads praising them. Downloading software from a robust and well populated community of peers is fairly safe. Given that malware makes it into commercial distributions often enough, it's probably as good a place to download an OS as any other.
There are finally affordable real Windows (8.1) tablets out. I just got a Dell Venue 8 Pro for $300 at Walmart. It has real x86 Windows in an 8" tablet. Its so far unlike (far superior to) ant Dell hardware I've recently owned. We're no longer forced to choose between iOS or Android.
I know evil, etc. This thing might kill Android tablets, though. It also includes free MS Office 2013 in the $300 price. Double evil, etc. It could Really kill Android tablets
. Finally being able to run Seamonkey, and any other x86 'doze stuff on a pocketable tablet is pretty nice.
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You're talking about something completely different now. Legacy binary compatability is a non-issue for the average user. She/He doesn't bring any old software along with them from a Windows 98/2000/XP system. They get their new machine and they start looking for the button to make email and 'the internet' load up on the screen.
The operation of taking the new system out of the package, starting it up, registering it, connecting to WiFi, etc. is the hard part. The 'Friendly' Internet Explorer icon is right there on the Metro Desktop, along with the email button, etc. People can and do just use it.
Those darn hooligans and their twitter. It's good to see somebody here willing to type common sense! Harumph!
I should correct the above. The cert wasn't a total loss, as the beancounters still loved ya.
Novel was the typical topdown networking that only a salaried IT drone could love.
WordPerfect was a hopeless sea of alt-control this-and-that which required a massive keyboard help overlay to be usable. Sure, that one secretary loved it because it was very empowering to be the main expert.
The rest of us were glad when Workgroup networking became feasible. We could install NICs in all the machines in Engineering and tell the IT tard to gtfo. We were glad that Microsoft Word (for MS-DOS) had menus that weren't invisible. We didn't have to turn in our handwritten drafts and wait for the secretary to type them.
I suppose it sucked after awhile to have that Novell certification wallpaper on your cubicle partition that didn't mean anything anymore.
The part I like is that in his version of free-market capitalism we are all driving East German cars.
The average user sits down and in a few minutes is back to doing what they want on a Win8 system. The average aspie self-appointed computer expert (the guy everybody in the office asks) suddenly isn't the expert anymore, so he fumes and fumes. Then logs onto Slashdot for reinforcement.
My high-speed paper tape reader jammed because of Billy's bloated BASIC!!11!!!
No software should take up more than sixty feet of paper tape!!!11!!
I think you meant to type "Netscape stole the graphical browser from where it was invented, at the NCSA, in the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champagne (UIUC)"
Still, it's a good thing lil' Marc had his wings clipped. One Zack existing in the world is quite enough.
My wife bought a new Windows 8.1 laptop yesterday. I got a new 8.1. tablet last week.
We looked at the abandoned aisle for the Apple stuff at Frys. There wasn't anybody there at all. The sales clerks were busy trying to keep up with the people buying Windows laptops.
Not anymore. You can now get a full x86 tablet with 8.1 for about the same price as a Nexus. It's still not for sure how things will settle, but this might be the point at which Tablets become something more than a toy to the public at large.
It would be a delicious irony if the entry of affordable regular Windows onto Tablets became the hinge point for their mainstream acceptance. Maybe Apple will soon be forced by the market to sell an OSX tablet.
There's always Rachel Maddog to save us.
They don't need businesses talking to their suppliers. The suppliers might figure it out.
"Profits are soaring on record sales! Please just ship in more goods! The check is in the mail."
Wow. You can see all of that from your vantage point in France. I imagine it must be gratifying to have the capacity to have things so well figured out with so little actual information flowing your way.
He exhibits all the authoritarian zeal, and none of the charisma, of his predecessor. It's fairly obvious what the outcome will be.
Shouldn't you be out selling the newspaper right now? They're not going to let you sit at the lit table on campus and discuss the finer points of dialectical materialism with the pretty coeds if you don't sell your weekly quota of newspapers.
Go back to your cave Ogg. Pound on some rocks with your stick. The tribal leader will send for you when the council has decided your fate.
Clearly "the rich" should pile more goods onto those shelves to be sold at a loss. If they refuse, then soldiers should point guns at them to force them to do so. If entities from outside the country subsequently refuse to continue shipping in goods, after all the "rich" people's money is gone, clearly the UN will have to be empowered to force these outside companies to ship more goods, at a loss, into Venezuela.
I tried installing Irix on my SparcStation IPX and it just sat there and laughed. I guess I'll try my AIX install media next.
RT is gonna die, and fast. There are 8" Windows tablets in the stores now with x86 processors and full 8.1 for under $300. The whole purpose of RT has evaporated.
I have actual experience now running Windows 8. Windows 8 is to Windows 8.1 as Windows 98 was to Second Edition. We will see how far the parallels follow.
Metro is what you give your computer illiterate aunt, with the programs she will be using as big shiny buttons. Anybody more 'literate' than that can use other methods.
If the problems with security in iOS, and the fragmentation/security issues with Android continue, people will go back to the 'doze.
Fragmented, partial and not always that useful Core Dumps when a program crashes? Lotsa folks have had that in the past. Back in the day the Core was just sitting there with it's magnetic domains in place to debug with.
Cost of ownership is more than the price of the actual software. Microsoft isn't out of the woods yet, but don't kid yourself if you think they don't have the staff, support, and mindshare to roll out something that lots of people want to use.
Google is a very casual operation with regard to the software they provide to consumers. Android is rather fragmented now, and you only see ChromeOS being sold on the lowest-price but also lowest-end hardware on a retailer's shelf. And Google's history of abandoning projects that don't pan out makes many people nervous.
Also, the VM model they've adopted for Android will allow for lots of other vendors to produce VMs to run their Apps. I could forsee Microsoft producing a 'Gaming VM' that allows all the nice little games in Googles App Store to run in sandboxes on Windows.
I'd think so too, if I were pirating it from an unknown source. But sites like The Pirate Bay have comment threads attached to their linked warez, and people do chime in when they find unexpected malware. So you only download well-seeded isos that have lengthy comment threads praising them. Downloading software from a robust and well populated community of peers is fairly safe. Given that malware makes it into commercial distributions often enough, it's probably as good a place to download an OS as any other.
There are finally affordable real Windows (8.1) tablets out. I just got a Dell Venue 8 Pro for $300 at Walmart. It has real x86 Windows in an 8" tablet. Its so far unlike (far superior to) ant Dell hardware I've recently owned. We're no longer forced to choose between iOS or Android.
I know evil, etc. This thing might kill Android tablets, though. It also includes free MS Office 2013 in the $300 price. Double evil, etc. It could Really kill Android tablets
. Finally being able to run Seamonkey, and any other x86 'doze stuff on a pocketable tablet is pretty nice.
Revolutionary? Certainly not more revolting, in any case.