Not from Apple, anyway. They gave up on a 'next generation MacOS' after spending millions and millions, and were acquired by NeXT.
Unfortunately, I don't recall hearing of hundreds of incompetents at Apple being fired. All that 'Copeland' and 'Sagan' hype should have ended with a bang.
He's probably thinking of Web servers. And you know, since any linux box connected to the net whose owner has many of the daemons running counts as a 'server', he's probably numerically correct. However, you are correct when it comes to the server market, i.e. places where servers do heavy liftning and do more than light duty tasks like running a httpd.
The logical conclusion is that their interest lies in keeping people from copying and illegally distributing copies of the content that they sell. If it 'takes out' various other legitimate distrubtion methods and mediums, that's irrelevant.
But will every component in the system have a microsoft-signed driver available?
As the grandparent said, most people will end up with Vista on new computers where it came preinstalled. Flash News For You: those computers will not have hardware installed in them that don't have Microsoft-signed drivers installed.
All that means is that they won't be able to drag along and plug in old hardware from their old machine. I do that, you do that, lots of us only upgrade one component at a time and some of us have new motherboards in cases that we had Pentium I processors in when they were new, and floppy drives that we've had since our old '286 machine.
At my house, you'd hit the lath behind the plaster. And if you persisted and continued digging in, hopefully you'd run into some of the old fabric-insulated tube-and-post wiring.
And when you got inside, you'd discover that a half greyhound/half black lab has a very long snout and can open her jaws really wide.
Just the typical 11 year old girl, as commonly found in typical settings like a DefCon convention. Yep.
No, she didn't know what theory she was applying. Just a plain old 11 year old girl, like all the other 11 year old girls who attend DefCon conventions.
Why is this whole thing hard to swallow?
It is easy to pick that kind of lock. I picked one when I was about that age on a bike rack out in front of school. Just because I wanted to see if I could. I had no interest in the bike. Thank god I wasn't caught. Would have been tagged a hopeless nerd years earlier than I was.
Shareware started with Jim Button back in the earliest days of the IBM PC. Freely distributed software that is fully functional, not crippled in any way, and the author relies on the goodwill of the user to send him/her some green if they like the program. Use Wikipedia, for goodness sake. Shareware is a well established concept and has been for decades.
No, there isn't a 'Shareware Concept (tm)' championed by some stuffed shirt like ESR.
I know why this is the case -- unlike many no-name players, they actually use fairly decent DAC chips from Wolfson Microelectronics.
Okay. So you've made your point. An iPod is better than the $17 no-name player I can buy at the dollar store. However, most of the iPod's competitors are not no-name products. SanDisk definitely is a well known brand-name product. So are most of the array of iPod alternatives people choose over an iPod.
Why wouldn't you need a headphone amp for an iPod but you would for any other player? Are you implying that Apple produces an integrated design that is far superior by merit of the fact that they're cramming a headphone amp onto the same die with the DAC???
You're an electrical engineer? Cool, as far as it goes. There are few EEs graduating these days who can do credible analog design. Do you stew up FPGAs for a living? Are you some digital dude? Do you know who Jim Williams is?
It's an interesting historical note to mention that the company that really, really disliked O'Reilly's 'Website' package (an all-in-one-retail-box method of rolling out a website in the early days) was Microsoft. It was a Web Server package that you could install on any plain old version of Windows NT. Microsoft didn't like this because they wanted to sell server versions of NT, and expensive client access licenses. They didn't WANT people being able to put a cheap NT Workstation online and use somebody else's software to make it a Web Server.
Actually, the Apple trademark dispute came up years ago, in the Apple II era. Apple Music settled with Apple Computers with an agreement that Apple Computer would never enter the music distributing business. It is just mean spirited backstabbing for Apple Computer to now enter the music distributing business. But it's the kind of ball Apple Computer plays. They ran all the small diverse 'Windowed GUI Computing Environment' companies out of business in the 80's, you know, delivering ownership of the 'One GUI to conquer us all' to Microsoft in the process. Apple Computer has never, ever, been a very ethical business, except in the ways that their marketing department tells them they should.
And here I thought it was when they started publishing comic books, and stuff by Eric Raymond.
Actually, an O'Reilly book still has a default ring of quality about it. The classics are the most important, though. You can configure your entire X Window System using the O'Reilly book set and have a rather nice system. Without the bloat of the new crap. Tab Window Manager rulez.
I haven't bough O'Reilly books for a while, and I'm certainly not going to be after learning about this. O'Reilly can burn in Hell for all I care.
That's fine then. You're probably more inclined toward books with higher screenshot content anyway. If you don't 'get it' to the degree that you seem to be indicating, you probably only bought Windows-oriented O'Reilly books in the first place.
Stick with '..For Dummies' books, and stuff from Microsoft Press.
I located a shareware product selling for about $40 that was perfect....
If you weren't able to use it to do your conversion, it wasn't shareware. It was crippleware, which sadly has almost entirely overtaken the shareware concept. The shareware definition specifies that payment is voluntary. Crippled 'demo' versions of an application that don't work unless you pay for a 'key' or an uncrippled version are NOT shareware.
Yes, well, Apple is in the middle of throwing away their last-generation hardware (again). The dual PowerPC/Intel support will go away in a year or two.
Similar to the way they abandoned the 68k processors.
Everything on my hard-drive will live forever through countless generations of computers with no fear of some DRM scheme or closed architecture rendering the data useless.
Or it will die immediately, if the Internet balkanizes into a bunch of private spaces. I am sure there will always be places for freenix computers to connect to freenix computers. But when closed binary ("secured") applications and protocols are required to connect to the 'content everybody wants' we'll be locked out. And there are forces and entities working hard to make that day happen soon.
I don't like it, either, and I keep a fairly fresh complete copy of the distfiles for NetBSD pkgsrc on a local server. But it's a possibly near term reality.
A web object that would accept a simple 2-color bitmap and output an aerial photograph of the actual crop-circle pattern that the big machine it controlled had generated would be cooler. But you'd have to have a lot of spare land for the whole big mechanism to roll around on. And I dont think a PayPal link would cover the expenses...
That's what happens when everybody overpromotes 'Firefox' and virtually nobody still runs a browser (the Mozilla suite- 'seamonkey') with that nice little 'Composer' icon down on the status bar. Everything is typed into Web Forms or people are stuck using Microsft tUrd or the likes.
Yes, but said Mac MINI is the ONLY sub $1000 Apple platform. That was the point being made in this thread. And the $599 price gets you the box. You have to buy a keyboard and monitor to use it at all. That just doesn't compare favorably to the cheap all-included brand name deals from the Big Box merchandisers. And it withers away completely if you start looking at the deals from whitebox clone sellers.
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Not from Apple, anyway. They gave up on a 'next generation MacOS' after spending millions and millions, and were acquired by NeXT.
Unfortunately, I don't recall hearing of hundreds of incompetents at Apple being fired. All that 'Copeland' and 'Sagan' hype should have ended with a bang.
Correct. To be more precise, mine is a PowerBook 165C .
He, and his buddies who will use the machines he sets up, won't have to flash plastic and bend over at the Apple Store.
(now- I am not posting this comment on apple.slashdot.org, so don't get all slashy/gnashy, mods)
He's probably thinking of Web servers. And you know, since any linux box connected to the net whose owner has many of the daemons running counts as a 'server', he's probably numerically correct. However, you are correct when it comes to the server market, i.e. places where servers do heavy liftning and do more than light duty tasks like running a httpd.
No, it really doesn't rise to the level of being 'Orwellian.'
It's just some lamer calling something 'dictatorial.'
Similar to when some lamer calls something 'Orwellian.'
It can constitute flamebait, of course.
The logical conclusion is that their interest lies in keeping people from copying and illegally distributing copies of the content that they sell. If it 'takes out' various other legitimate distrubtion methods and mediums, that's irrelevant.
But will every component in the system have a microsoft-signed driver available?
As the grandparent said, most people will end up with Vista on new computers where it came preinstalled. Flash News For You: those computers will not have hardware installed in them that don't have Microsoft-signed drivers installed.
All that means is that they won't be able to drag along and plug in old hardware from their old machine. I do that, you do that, lots of us only upgrade one component at a time and some of us have new motherboards in cases that we had Pentium I processors in when they were new, and floppy drives that we've had since our old '286 machine.
At my house, you'd hit the lath behind the plaster. And if you persisted and continued digging in, hopefully you'd run into some of the old fabric-insulated tube-and-post wiring.
And when you got inside, you'd discover that a half greyhound/half black lab has a very long snout and can open her jaws really wide.
Just the typical 11 year old girl, as commonly found in typical settings like a DefCon convention. Yep.
No, she didn't know what theory she was applying. Just a plain old 11 year old girl, like all the other 11 year old girls who attend DefCon conventions.
Why is this whole thing hard to swallow?
It is easy to pick that kind of lock. I picked one when I was about that age on a bike rack out in front of school. Just because I wanted to see if I could. I had no interest in the bike. Thank god I wasn't caught. Would have been tagged a hopeless nerd years earlier than I was.
Nice and comfy in that armchair, eh?
Shareware started with Jim Button back in the earliest days of the IBM PC. Freely distributed software that is fully functional, not crippled in any way, and the author relies on the goodwill of the user to send him/her some green if they like the program. Use Wikipedia, for goodness sake. Shareware is a well established concept and has been for decades.
No, there isn't a 'Shareware Concept (tm)' championed by some stuffed shirt like ESR.
I know why this is the case -- unlike many no-name players, they actually use fairly decent DAC chips from Wolfson Microelectronics.
Okay. So you've made your point. An iPod is better than the $17 no-name player I can buy at the dollar store. However, most of the iPod's competitors are not no-name products. SanDisk definitely is a well known brand-name product. So are most of the array of iPod alternatives people choose over an iPod.
Why wouldn't you need a headphone amp for an iPod but you would for any other player? Are you implying that Apple produces an integrated design that is far superior by merit of the fact that they're cramming a headphone amp onto the same die with the DAC???
You're an electrical engineer? Cool, as far as it goes. There are few EEs graduating these days who can do credible analog design. Do you stew up FPGAs for a living? Are you some digital dude? Do you know who Jim Williams is?
It's an interesting historical note to mention that the company that really, really disliked O'Reilly's 'Website' package (an all-in-one-retail-box method of rolling out a website in the early days) was Microsoft. It was a Web Server package that you could install on any plain old version of Windows NT. Microsoft didn't like this because they wanted to sell server versions of NT, and expensive client access licenses. They didn't WANT people being able to put a cheap NT Workstation online and use somebody else's software to make it a Web Server.
Actually, the Apple trademark dispute came up years ago, in the Apple II era. Apple Music settled with Apple Computers with an agreement that Apple Computer would never enter the music distributing business. It is just mean spirited backstabbing for Apple Computer to now enter the music distributing business. But it's the kind of ball Apple Computer plays. They ran all the small diverse 'Windowed GUI Computing Environment' companies out of business in the 80's, you know, delivering ownership of the 'One GUI to conquer us all' to Microsoft in the process. Apple Computer has never, ever, been a very ethical business, except in the ways that their marketing department tells them they should.
And here I thought it was when they started publishing comic books, and stuff by Eric Raymond.
Actually, an O'Reilly book still has a default ring of quality about it. The classics are the most important, though. You can configure your entire X Window System using the O'Reilly book set and have a rather nice system. Without the bloat of the new crap. Tab Window Manager rulez.
I haven't bough O'Reilly books for a while, and I'm certainly not going to be after learning about this. O'Reilly can burn in Hell for all I care.
That's fine then. You're probably more inclined toward books with higher screenshot content anyway. If you don't 'get it' to the degree that you seem to be indicating, you probably only bought Windows-oriented O'Reilly books in the first place.
Stick with '..For Dummies' books, and stuff from Microsoft Press.
I located a shareware product selling for about $40 that was perfect....
If you weren't able to use it to do your conversion, it wasn't shareware. It was crippleware, which sadly has almost entirely overtaken the shareware concept. The shareware definition specifies that payment is voluntary. Crippled 'demo' versions of an application that don't work unless you pay for a 'key' or an uncrippled version are NOT shareware.
Yes, well, Apple is in the middle of throwing away their last-generation hardware (again). The dual PowerPC/Intel support will go away in a year or two.
Similar to the way they abandoned the 68k processors.
(The iPod happens to work great with OS X.)
My iPod works equally well with NetBSD. (see tagline)
Everything on my hard-drive will live forever through countless generations of computers with no fear of some DRM scheme or closed architecture rendering the data useless.
Or it will die immediately, if the Internet balkanizes into a bunch of private spaces. I am sure there will always be places for freenix computers to connect to freenix computers. But when closed binary ("secured") applications and protocols are required to connect to the 'content everybody wants' we'll be locked out. And there are forces and entities working hard to make that day happen soon.
I don't like it, either, and I keep a fairly fresh complete copy of the distfiles for NetBSD pkgsrc on a local server. But it's a possibly near term reality.
A web object that would accept a simple 2-color bitmap and output an aerial photograph of the actual crop-circle pattern that the big machine it controlled had generated would be cooler. But you'd have to have a lot of spare land for the whole big mechanism to roll around on. And I dont think a PayPal link would cover the expenses...
You have 'say' that is equivalent to your contribution to the project, however.
You respond that you still don't have any say? Hmm...
That's what happens when everybody overpromotes 'Firefox' and virtually nobody still runs a browser (the Mozilla suite- 'seamonkey') with that nice little 'Composer' icon down on the status bar. Everything is typed into Web Forms or people are stuck using Microsft tUrd or the likes.
When everybody is free to take an equal part in something, it can be Democracy.
When everybody is forced to take an equal part in something, it can be slavery, Marxism-Leninism, Communism, etc.
Yes, but said Mac MINI is the ONLY sub $1000 Apple platform. That was the point being made in this thread. And the $599 price gets you the box. You have to buy a keyboard and monitor to use it at all. That just doesn't compare favorably to the cheap all-included brand name deals from the Big Box merchandisers. And it withers away completely if you start looking at the deals from whitebox clone sellers.
There is no 'low-cost' Apple machine.