How will they get agreement from current users? Does the TOS pops out the next time they login during the implementation?
From the first paragraph in the TOS:
We reserve the right, at our sole discretion, to change or delete portions of these Terms at any time without further notice. Your continued use of the Facebook Service after any such changes constitutes your acceptance of the new Terms.
I'm not really sure why this should come as a surprise to anyone. I mean, do you guys have any idea how valuable that data is to a marketer? For instance, just getting your name and some contact information (through legitimate means, of course) is worth about $20-25 to a typical marketer. That's why companies are so willing to give you special sign-up offers all the time (amazon, buy.com, reward programs, credit cards, banks, etc etc etc). As soon as you start tacking any bit of information onto that basic profile (purchasing habits, interests, etc) that value starts climbing through the roof.
Now, think about what Facebook knows about everyone who's signed up. They have names and contact information. They have leisure-time activities. They have browsing profiles. They have entertainment interests. They have friend lists. And then throw that "25 things people don't know about me" thing that was going around a few weeks ago into the mix. Now they have that information, too. And people are just voluntarily giving all that info away. Of course they're going to hang onto that information (and sell it) if given the chance. What did you think they were going to do with it?
What good would a channel guide do you if you cancel your cable and no longer have "channels" to tune into? Sounds like some people haven't really thought this through.
No idea what the hell they're trying to render, but my netbook renders just about every page I visit at about the same speed as my desktop machine. If there's any difference, I don't notice it.
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That's the beautiful thing about it. It's just as true today as it was 18 years ago.
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Hey! Check out this post I came across while browsing usenet. Have any of you heard anything about this? Sounds like it might be kinda cool.
From: torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds) Newsgroups: comp.os.minix Subject: Free minix-like kernel sources for 386-AT Keywords: 386, preliminary version Message-ID: Date: 5 Oct 91 05:41:06 GMT Organization: University of Helsinki Lines: 55
Do you pine for the nice days of minix-1.1, when men were men and wrote their own device drivers? Are you without a nice project and just dying to cut your teeth on a OS you can try to modify for your needs? Are you finding it frustrating when everything works on minix? No more all- nighters to get a nifty program working? Then this post might be just for you:-)
As I mentioned a month(?) ago, I'm working on a free version of a minix-lookalike for AT-386 computers. It has finally reached the stage where it's even usable (though may not be depending on what you want), and I am willing to put out the sources for wider distribution. It is just version 0.02 (+1 (very small) patch already), but I've successfully run bash/gcc/gnu-make/gnu-sed/compress etc under it.
Sources for this pet project of mine can be found at nic.funet.fi (128.214.6.100) in the directory/pub/OS/Linux. The directory also contains some README-file and a couple of binaries to work under linux (bash, update and gcc, what more can you ask for:-). Full kernel source is provided, as no minix code has been used. Library sources are only partially free, so that cannot be distributed currently. The system is able to compile "as-is" and has been known to work. Heh. Sources to the binaries (bash and gcc) can be found at the same place in/pub/gnu.
ALERT! WARNING! NOTE! These sources still need minix-386 to be compiled (and gcc-1.40, possibly 1.37.1, haven't tested), and you need minix to set it up if you want to run it, so it is not yet a standalone system for those of you without minix. I'm working on it. You also need to be something of a hacker to set it up (?), so for those hoping for an alternative to minix-386, please ignore me. It is currently meant for hackers interested in operating systems and 386's with access to minix.
The system needs an AT-compatible harddisk (IDE is fine) and EGA/VGA. If you are still interested, please ftp the README/RELNOTES, and/or mail me for additional info.
I can (well, almost) hear you asking yourselves "why?". Hurd will be out in a year (or two, or next month, who knows), and I've already got minix. This is a program for hackers by a hacker. I've enjouyed doing it, and somebody might enjoy looking at it and even modifying it for their own needs. It is still small enough to understand, use and modify, and I'm looking forward to any comments you might have.
I'm also interested in hearing from anybody who has written any of the utilities/library functions for minix. If your efforts are freely distributable (under copyright or even public domain), I'd like to hear from you, so I can add them to the system. I'm using Earl Chews estdio right now (thanks for a nice and working system Earl), and similar works will be very wellcome. Your (C)'s will of course be left intact. Drop me a line if you are willing to let me use your code.
Linus
PS. to PHIL NELSON! I'm unable to get through to you, and keep getting "forward error - strawberry unknown domain" or something.
I don't see how it could be a prank when the Streetview guys were in on it.
For this example, I agree with you. As the article & google guys mentioned, it's more of an easter egg. Of course, turning it into an exhibit sort of defeats that, too.
Well, I was mostly posting that as a joke. But your explanations for why non-redistribution shouldn't really even be an option are quite enlightening. Thanks!
The easy answer to the problem: don't redistribute whatever it is you make. By not redistributing, you should be free from any GPL (or other license) obligations. Now, in real life, that may not be an applicable answer. But it is the easy one.
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From the first paragraph in the TOS:
We reserve the right, at our sole discretion, to change or delete portions of these Terms at any time without further notice. Your continued use of the Facebook Service after any such changes constitutes your acceptance of the new Terms.
I'm not really sure why this should come as a surprise to anyone. I mean, do you guys have any idea how valuable that data is to a marketer? For instance, just getting your name and some contact information (through legitimate means, of course) is worth about $20-25 to a typical marketer. That's why companies are so willing to give you special sign-up offers all the time (amazon, buy.com, reward programs, credit cards, banks, etc etc etc). As soon as you start tacking any bit of information onto that basic profile (purchasing habits, interests, etc) that value starts climbing through the roof.
Now, think about what Facebook knows about everyone who's signed up. They have names and contact information. They have leisure-time activities. They have browsing profiles. They have entertainment interests. They have friend lists. And then throw that "25 things people don't know about me" thing that was going around a few weeks ago into the mix. Now they have that information, too. And people are just voluntarily giving all that info away. Of course they're going to hang onto that information (and sell it) if given the chance. What did you think they were going to do with it?
I'm sorry. I'd like to be able to have my terabit ethernet runs over distances longer than a few inches.
Someone broke the rule a while ago. That's why all the major ISPs stopped carrying the good groups.
I wish them all the success that Gateway had with their stores!
If you make breathing illegal, only criminals with breath.
I think you mean breathe.
And what will they do with breathe?
Why don't they just deactivate them and leave them in place? That shouldn't cost too much, I wouldn't think...
Yeah, it's not like some bored MIT students would figure out how to hack into them and have their own little surveillance network...
Just be careful. A few weeks ago someone was telling me to watch out for the Niagaran Paper Mill scam.
The answer is pretty simple--Jobs came along with NeXT. Gasse wasn't nearly as enticing (plus apparently he wanted too much).
Think about how much energy could be harnessed if they just hooked these things up to slashdotters forearms. It's mindboggling!
Gotcha. I was still thinking along the lines of the GP (or whoever) up there who said he was gonna ditch cable.
What good would a channel guide do you if you cancel your cable and no longer have "channels" to tune into? Sounds like some people haven't really thought this through.
Apparently making up bullshit is interesting.
Yes, it is.
No idea what the hell they're trying to render, but my netbook renders just about every page I visit at about the same speed as my desktop machine. If there's any difference, I don't notice it.
That's the beautiful thing about it. It's just as true today as it was 18 years ago.
Hey! Check out this post I came across while browsing usenet. Have any of you heard anything about this? Sounds like it might be kinda cool.
From: torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Free minix-like kernel sources for 386-AT
Keywords: 386, preliminary version
Message-ID:
Date: 5 Oct 91 05:41:06 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki
Lines: 55
Do you pine for the nice days of minix-1.1, when men were men and wrote :-)
their own device drivers? Are you without a nice project and just dying
to cut your teeth on a OS you can try to modify for your needs? Are you
finding it frustrating when everything works on minix? No more all-
nighters to get a nifty program working? Then this post might be just
for you
As I mentioned a month(?) ago, I'm working on a free version of a
minix-lookalike for AT-386 computers. It has finally reached the stage
where it's even usable (though may not be depending on what you want),
and I am willing to put out the sources for wider distribution. It is
just version 0.02 (+1 (very small) patch already), but I've successfully
run bash/gcc/gnu-make/gnu-sed/compress etc under it.
Sources for this pet project of mine can be found at nic.funet.fi /pub/OS/Linux. The directory also :-). Full kernel /pub/gnu.
(128.214.6.100) in the directory
contains some README-file and a couple of binaries to work under linux
(bash, update and gcc, what more can you ask for
source is provided, as no minix code has been used. Library sources are
only partially free, so that cannot be distributed currently. The
system is able to compile "as-is" and has been known to work. Heh.
Sources to the binaries (bash and gcc) can be found at the same place in
ALERT! WARNING! NOTE! These sources still need minix-386 to be compiled
(and gcc-1.40, possibly 1.37.1, haven't tested), and you need minix to
set it up if you want to run it, so it is not yet a standalone system
for those of you without minix. I'm working on it. You also need to be
something of a hacker to set it up (?), so for those hoping for an
alternative to minix-386, please ignore me. It is currently meant for
hackers interested in operating systems and 386's with access to minix.
The system needs an AT-compatible harddisk (IDE is fine) and EGA/VGA. If
you are still interested, please ftp the README/RELNOTES, and/or mail me
for additional info.
I can (well, almost) hear you asking yourselves "why?". Hurd will be
out in a year (or two, or next month, who knows), and I've already got
minix. This is a program for hackers by a hacker. I've enjouyed doing
it, and somebody might enjoy looking at it and even modifying it for
their own needs. It is still small enough to understand, use and
modify, and I'm looking forward to any comments you might have.
I'm also interested in hearing from anybody who has written any of the
utilities/library functions for minix. If your efforts are freely
distributable (under copyright or even public domain), I'd like to hear
from you, so I can add them to the system. I'm using Earl Chews estdio
right now (thanks for a nice and working system Earl), and similar works
will be very wellcome. Your (C)'s will of course be left intact. Drop me
a line if you are willing to let me use your code.
Linus
PS. to PHIL NELSON! I'm unable to get through to you, and keep getting
"forward error - strawberry unknown domain" or something.
I don't see how it could be a prank when the Streetview guys were in on it.
For this example, I agree with you. As the article & google guys mentioned, it's more of an easter egg. Of course, turning it into an exhibit sort of defeats that, too.
Yes, I know it's huge but it's the only way I know how to do it.
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God help the meta-moderator that comes across this post. : p
That would be Timothy. And isn't this the sort of thing that Idle was created for?
Geez, don't remind me! My four month old is probably at home at this moment with my topless wife!
That's it. I'm calling child protective services. It's clear that your wife is not fit to be a mother.
It's a back-alley in Pittsburgh. Trust me, the pictures are better with the band/marathon/garage scientists/etc.
Well, I was mostly posting that as a joke. But your explanations for why non-redistribution shouldn't really even be an option are quite enlightening. Thanks!
Ahhh, what a refreshing change it would be to see the "open sores" comments get marked as 'insightful' and 'informative'.
The easy answer to the problem: don't redistribute whatever it is you make. By not redistributing, you should be free from any GPL (or other license) obligations. Now, in real life, that may not be an applicable answer. But it is the easy one.
Online forums need to be managed? And is there a chapter in there on trolls?