You don't want to believe in science, so you don't learn it. You don't believe in all this technology stuff, because you don't believe in science. You begin to not be able to catch up with the modern world around you, so you begin to trail behind.
Some of the American Christians are going down the path of the Amish. One day in the future you will drive by a secluded village where they have insulated themselves from the rest of the advancing civilization.
I think this is the killer app for finally getting your ISP to join the mbone.
After all, mcasting a stream you have no way of tracking how many listeners you have. So when it comes time to pay soundexchange based on #listeners, well 0*0.0011 = $0.00
Sure it would be hard to calculate advertiser revenue, but I am sure there would be a way around it.
It really is too bad that mcast is usually the last feature that your ISP will add, well next to IPv6.
These guys have hit us up before. From what I have seen it is a -give us $ or we shut you down.
-a small quick ddos to show you they can. -you say "no thanks", so now they ask for $$$.
-a little bit longer ddos because you pissed them off. -now they ask for $$$$$. which you certainly are not going to pay.
-another little ddos, more email threats of looming death and destruction, they are "leet" after all.
at this point you begin to factor outages and lost revenues into the business plan, you call ISP's, you consider calling the FBI.
they eventually go away. The best advice we got was from someone who has a "relationship" (pronounced cashcow) with a ddos'r. The scam is that they are looking for regular clients that they know can/will pay, and that they can hit up when they need cash. The word has gotten around that if you pay once, you'll pay twice. At least in the business of online casino's everyone has begun to understand that you just dont pay, ever.
the acticle was a little light on *what* apps we need. And I had just finished reading another article that actually spells out the the specifics.
http://planet-geek.com/archives/003830.html
What are you talking about?
backup tapes are digital bits represented as analog signals xfer'd onto a magnetic tape. So when you read the analog signal back it transforms given the signal into a digital bit. To make a copy of a DLT tape it will get converted back to digital-copied-xfer'd to tape exactly as the original.. you can copy this backup media millions of times without loss of bits...
you must be thinking of plain old audio analog tapes where every analog-analog copy got worse..
really if what you are saying is true, backup tapes would be pretty useless..
dont know how you got modded +4 informative
I would put the odds of this getting implemented at practically nil. If you do not fundamentally redesign most/all of the protocols, you are just refining IPv4/IPv6 to suit your needs. And if in fact you did come up with a "from scratch" design you have the following hurdles to meet: -port all known software/libs to use the new protocols -get all vendors of networking equip to issue major firmware upgrades to switches/hubs/firewalls anything that speaks on the network. -rewrite networking code for top 6 most popular OS's. -finally port IOS, JunOS, on all the last hardware models of the last 10 years.
then you might be ready to actually implement something, that is of course if you can then talk a good percentage of the planets ISP/Corp/home users to actually upgrade everything for you.
Case in Point: IPv6 It has been around for a decade. it has been ported and deployed onto most major platforms. There is even app and NAT translators on the routers to ease you into it. There is a well known and defined migration path. The US Govt has mandated migration to IPv6 by 2009 (I think).
And you *still* cant get people/corps to start the migration.
We already have a internet, small incremental changes (MPLS,IPv6) are barely tolerated as long as its super easy and you have a big gain.
start from scratch? you are a little late for that.
If the courthouse has a copy machine and there is a copyrighted book next to it. Does that make the courthouse liable under the "Making Availible". After all anyone could start making copies.
I was the head net engineer on the island of st thomas (us virgin islands) during the late 90's early 2000. There was not a lot of technical people so I got to do almost everthing by myself and with little support from the states.
I built a couple of ISP's, Govt networks and tons of small business systems. Here are some favorite hacks/stories.
-wireless in a bucket in a cave. We needed to link two communication towers but lacked line of sight. The owner had a small piece of land on peterborg which did have line of sight but was nothing but rocks and jungle. During a test of (breezecom AP's) between towers I had put the AP's in a 5 gallon bucket with some holes in it. The permit for building and power was almost a year away, but damnit I needed that link. So I ended up wiring in a 6v golf cart battery to provide power to 2 AP's and a crossover cable. I found a little cave on the property and put it in there (two big ugly 24db antenna's peeking out)... So now every 3 days or so the internet would go down for half the island, the pager would go off, and I would drag a charged battery down to peterborg and replace the battery. This went on for almost a year. I cant tell you how glad I was to finally see the building get finished and *plug* in the bucket.
-The territorial court system had a *old* system of managing the court docket. A large and heavy Book was used on the first flood to record incoming violations and pending offenses (in pencil!). later in the day it would go to the second floor where they would write stuff regarding logs/cases/dispositions. then at the end of the day it would go to the 3rd floor where they would write down the actual court proceedings into the book....in the morning it would go down to the first floor where they would *photocopy* the book (old skool backups). and start all over again... years later EDS installed a very expensive case managment system that automated this stuff. But since there were few people that were computer literate it hardly got used except to *scan* in the book for online backups.
-UPS's... since they are heavy and expensive to ship to a small caribbean island. We would take dozens of marine batteries a couple of industrial inverters and some chargers and dedicate a small room to house it. Then wire the inverters into the premise wiring and viola. site wide UPS! This is for a ISP's datacenter. Thank goodness the EPA never came within a 1000 miles of my island.
-critters like warm EM equipment.. I had to rebuild a number of servers as either a lizard would crawl into the box and short out the MB with its body (frying the poor guy in the process)... OR the big one which is ants are attracted to the EM fields and would start to congregate around sources of it.. So you would see lots of power supplies with ant nests in it, funny smell burnt electronics and cooked ants.
I could never figure out which was worse: -Someone lying to a third party and social engineering their way into position of trust. -Or that third parties seem to be more than willing to believe someone on the other side of the phone is whoever they claim to be.
I guess they can make laws to outlaw pretexting (so only criminals do it), or they can let civil lawsuits award large damages to corps that readily believe anyone on the other side of the phone.
sadly I can imaging who's side the lawmakers are on.
This keeps coming up every 6 months or so. To rehash it for you:
1) performance wise a 6x PCI-X motherboard is rare and commodity computers are not built for the buses to independantly talk to each other without invoking cpu. 2) feature wise you Have to have a RTOS or bad things happen when you try to implement QOS. speaking of features they have libraries full of books that talk about the *thousands* of features technologies that real routers implement (its hard to do that most companies spend tens/hundreds of millions to do this). implementing a few protocols/nat/firewall does not a router make. 3) If you actually have been involved with these things you would know:
-ds3/oc3/oc12's are not cheap... phone company bills of $100k a *month* is very common.
-a couple network engineers $100k/year each
-dedicated power/colo space/ups/generators $50+k/year
-SLA's and peering arraingment... $$$
-uptime to your customers measured in seconds of uptime (revenue $200+k/MONTH)....... AND you want to save $30k by using a #@$%#$%#$% software router running on a DELL?????
really, try explaining that to the CEO after the site has lost $10k/HOUR because something wonky is going on with the cpu or the memory oorrr it could be the kernel, I dunno I just rebooted the thing "cuz that usually fixes MY problems"... bye bye SLA.
If it was so legal then why did connecticut AG shut it down... but really I dont see how the other ones in nevada can be legal and accessed across states line.
For those who can't see this coming: BSA comes to your business for a audit. -You have COA? we will need to see the receipts. -You have receipts? we will affidavits from all persons who clicked the EULA. -You have COA, receipts, EULA's? we will need to see the CD's. -etc.etc.etc. repeat till you fail their never ending requirements of Proof of Purchase/Ownership/Bloodletting.
yes this has been done before (different socket for sure). Most of them have failed. But this is getting picked up by others lately and seems to have legs (technologically speaking).
oh BTW a single 3U is around $45k. For certain memory bound calculations and some sequential algorithms, HFFPGA work well (high frequency FPGA).
alienware burned me. Dell can improve them.
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I had a alienware sentia laptop. after 1 year and 4 months (1 year warranty) the laptop totally died on me. So I call up to get out of warranty repair, I was expecting to pay. After playing the phone support game with a couple of their techs it came down to:
-Model is discontinued, and they have 0 parts for this model. -They have no competitive upgrade, I would have bought a newer laptop if they would have given me something for the old one. -Alienware said "sorry" and referred me to a company in CA who does laptop component repairs.
At this point I sent it to the company in CA who said the MB was totally shot. they gave me some money for the case and the LCD and shipped me my hardrive back.
Hopefully Alienware can learn a few things from Dell on how to support their products.
a couple of routing protocols and features do not a router make. getting the buzzwords of the week included in your project is pretty easy. Many, Many of the "standards" of quite a few networking technologies are authored, invented, implemented by cisco. Look through the networking RFC's and see who authored quite a few of them.
as everyone else has commented, routers/switches are specialty hardware devices. The software is a managment thing.
If this was such a good idea and you could get the same performance, cisco/juniper/3com/ibm all would have done it by now, heck of a lot easier than designing your own chips and making pcb boards.
xorp/cdrouter/etc are all specialty niche products for the small business that _wants_ a cisco but for some reason likes to roll their own. They all migrate one day when they get bigger and need xyz feature and find out cisco has had it in IOS 11.2T, and that in fact feature xyz _used_ to be a cisco only proprietary protocol... oh well, they usually learn.
--jboss
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I would hazard a guess where this is all going:
You don't want to believe in science, so you don't learn it.
You don't believe in all this technology stuff, because you don't believe in science.
You begin to not be able to catch up with the modern world around you, so you begin to trail behind.
Some of the American Christians are going down the path of the Amish. One day in the future you will drive by a secluded village where they have insulated themselves from the rest of the advancing civilization.
So please just let them go on their merry way.
I think this is the killer app for finally getting your ISP to join the mbone. After all, mcasting a stream you have no way of tracking how many listeners you have. So when it comes time to pay soundexchange based on #listeners, well 0*0.0011 = $0.00 Sure it would be hard to calculate advertiser revenue, but I am sure there would be a way around it. It really is too bad that mcast is usually the last feature that your ISP will add, well next to IPv6.
These guys have hit us up before. From what I have seen it is a
-give us $ or we shut you down.
-a small quick ddos to show you they can.
-you say "no thanks", so now they ask for $$$.
-a little bit longer ddos because you pissed them off.
-now they ask for $$$$$. which you certainly are not going to pay.
-another little ddos, more email threats of looming death and destruction, they are "leet" after all.
at this point you begin to factor outages and lost revenues into the business plan, you call ISP's, you consider calling the FBI.
they eventually go away. The best advice we got was from someone who has a "relationship" (pronounced cashcow) with a ddos'r. The scam is that they are looking for regular clients that they know can/will pay, and that they can hit up when they need cash. The word has gotten around that if you pay once, you'll pay twice. At least in the business of online casino's everyone has begun to understand that you just dont pay, ever.
the acticle was a little light on *what* apps we need. And I had just finished reading another article that actually spells out the the specifics. http://planet-geek.com/archives/003830.html
What are you talking about? backup tapes are digital bits represented as analog signals xfer'd onto a magnetic tape. So when you read the analog signal back it transforms given the signal into a digital bit. To make a copy of a DLT tape it will get converted back to digital-copied-xfer'd to tape exactly as the original.. you can copy this backup media millions of times without loss of bits... you must be thinking of plain old audio analog tapes where every analog-analog copy got worse.. really if what you are saying is true, backup tapes would be pretty useless.. dont know how you got modded +4 informative
I would put the odds of this getting implemented at practically nil. If you do not fundamentally redesign most/all of the protocols, you are just refining IPv4/IPv6 to suit your needs. And if in fact you did come up with a "from scratch" design you have the following hurdles to meet:
-port all known software/libs to use the new protocols
-get all vendors of networking equip to issue major firmware upgrades to switches/hubs/firewalls anything that speaks on the network.
-rewrite networking code for top 6 most popular OS's.
-finally port IOS, JunOS, on all the last hardware models of the last 10 years.
then you might be ready to actually implement something, that is of course if you can then talk a good percentage of the planets ISP/Corp/home users to actually upgrade everything for you.
Case in Point: IPv6
It has been around for a decade. it has been ported and deployed onto most major platforms. There is even app and NAT translators on the routers to ease you into it. There is a well known and defined migration path. The US Govt has mandated migration to IPv6 by 2009 (I think).
And you *still* cant get people/corps to start the migration.
We already have a internet, small incremental changes (MPLS,IPv6) are barely tolerated as long as its super easy and you have a big gain.
start from scratch? you are a little late for that.
If the courthouse has a copy machine and there is a copyrighted book next to it. Does that make the courthouse liable under the "Making Availible". After all anyone could start making copies.
I was the head net engineer on the island of st thomas (us virgin islands) during the late 90's early 2000. There was not a lot of technical people so I got to do almost everthing by myself and with little support from the states.
I built a couple of ISP's, Govt networks and tons of small business systems. Here are some favorite hacks/stories.
-wireless in a bucket in a cave. We needed to link two communication towers but lacked line of sight. The owner had a small piece of land on peterborg which did have line of sight but was nothing but rocks and jungle. During a test of (breezecom AP's) between towers I had put the AP's in a 5 gallon bucket with some holes in it. The permit for building and power was almost a year away, but damnit I needed that link. So I ended up wiring in a 6v golf cart battery to provide power to 2 AP's and a crossover cable. I found a little cave on the property and put it in there (two big ugly 24db antenna's peeking out)... So now every 3 days or so the internet would go down for half the island, the pager would go off, and I would drag a charged battery down to peterborg and replace the battery. This went on for almost a year. I cant tell you how glad I was to finally see the building get finished and *plug* in the bucket.
-The territorial court system had a *old* system of managing the court docket. A large and heavy Book was used on the first flood to record incoming violations and pending offenses (in pencil!). later in the day it would go to the second floor where they would write stuff regarding logs/cases/dispositions. then at the end of the day it would go to the 3rd floor where they would write down the actual court proceedings into the book....in the morning it would go down to the first floor where they would *photocopy* the book (old skool backups). and start all over again... years later EDS installed a very expensive case managment system that automated this stuff. But since there were few people that were computer literate it hardly got used except to *scan* in the book for online backups.
-UPS's... since they are heavy and expensive to ship to a small caribbean island. We would take dozens of marine batteries a couple of industrial inverters and some chargers and dedicate a small room to house it. Then wire the inverters into the premise wiring and viola. site wide UPS! This is for a ISP's datacenter. Thank goodness the EPA never came within a 1000 miles of my island.
-critters like warm EM equipment.. I had to rebuild a number of servers as either a lizard would crawl into the box and short out the MB with its body (frying the poor guy in the process)... OR the big one which is ants are attracted to the EM fields and would start to congregate around sources of it.. So you would see lots of power supplies with ant nests in it, funny smell burnt electronics and cooked ants.
--jboss
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I could never figure out which was worse:
-Someone lying to a third party and social engineering their way into position of trust.
-Or that third parties seem to be more than willing to believe someone on the other side of the phone is whoever they claim to be.
I guess they can make laws to outlaw pretexting (so only criminals do it), or they can let civil lawsuits award large damages to corps that readily believe anyone on the other side of the phone.
sadly I can imaging who's side the lawmakers are on.
This keeps coming up every 6 months or so. To rehash it for you:
...... AND you want to save $30k by using a #@$%#$%#$% software router running on a DELL?????
1) performance wise a 6x PCI-X motherboard is rare and commodity computers are not built for the buses to independantly talk to each other without invoking cpu.
2) feature wise you Have to have a RTOS or bad things happen when you try to implement QOS. speaking of features they have libraries full of books that talk about the *thousands* of features technologies that real routers implement (its hard to do that most companies spend tens/hundreds of millions to do this). implementing a few protocols/nat/firewall does not a router make.
3) If you actually have been involved with these things you would know:
-ds3/oc3/oc12's are not cheap... phone company bills of $100k a *month* is very common.
-a couple network engineers $100k/year each
-dedicated power/colo space/ups/generators $50+k/year
-SLA's and peering arraingment... $$$
-uptime to your customers measured in seconds of uptime (revenue $200+k/MONTH).
really, try explaining that to the CEO after the site has lost $10k/HOUR because something wonky is going on with the cpu or the memory oorrr it could be the kernel, I dunno I just rebooted the thing "cuz that usually fixes MY problems"... bye bye SLA.
--jboss
If it was so legal then why did connecticut AG shut it down... but really I dont see how the other ones in nevada can be legal and accessed across states line.
For those who can't see this coming:
BSA comes to your business for a audit.
-You have COA? we will need to see the receipts.
-You have receipts? we will affidavits from all persons who clicked the EULA.
-You have COA, receipts, EULA's? we will need to see the CD's.
-etc.etc.etc.
repeat till you fail their never ending requirements of Proof of Purchase/Ownership/Bloodletting.
yes this has been done before (different socket for sure). Most of them have failed. But this is getting picked up by others lately and seems to have legs (technologically speaking).
http://www.cray.com/products/xd1/index.html
oh BTW a single 3U is around $45k. For certain memory bound calculations and some sequential algorithms, HFFPGA work well (high frequency FPGA).
I had a alienware sentia laptop. after 1 year and 4 months (1 year warranty) the laptop totally died on me. So I call up to get out of warranty repair, I was expecting to pay. After playing the phone support game with a couple of their techs it came down to:
-Model is discontinued, and they have 0 parts for this model.
-They have no competitive upgrade, I would have bought a newer laptop if they would have given me something for the old one.
-Alienware said "sorry" and referred me to a company in CA who does laptop component repairs.
At this point I sent it to the company in CA who said the MB was totally shot. they gave me some money for the case and the LCD and shipped me my hardrive back.
Hopefully Alienware can learn a few things from Dell on how to support their products.
A totally disatisfied customer.
a couple of routing protocols and features do not a router make. getting the buzzwords of the week included in your project is pretty easy. Many, Many of the "standards" of quite a few networking technologies are authored, invented, implemented by cisco. Look through the networking RFC's and see who authored quite a few of them. as everyone else has commented, routers/switches are specialty hardware devices. The software is a managment thing. If this was such a good idea and you could get the same performance, cisco/juniper/3com/ibm all would have done it by now, heck of a lot easier than designing your own chips and making pcb boards. xorp/cdrouter/etc are all specialty niche products for the small business that _wants_ a cisco but for some reason likes to roll their own. They all migrate one day when they get bigger and need xyz feature and find out cisco has had it in IOS 11.2T, and that in fact feature xyz _used_ to be a cisco only proprietary protocol... oh well, they usually learn. --jboss