I don't think there are any issues. iPhone is designed to be used. I use mine so much during the day that I have to recharge it anyway while I'm sleeping. And it's great. I understand why owners of other phones don't really use them, but I love playing while on the move, and listen to music. When it's time for me to unwind, it's time for my iPhone to unwind too, and I put it recharging right next to me on bed.
Really? Apple's saying they've found software issues causing a problem and are beta testing a fix right now. Sure you wanna argue with that?
And although I'm happy with the 4S, and it's not dying on me before I get home from work, it's most certainly worse than the iPhone 4 I had. I can't wait for the update.
No, it means "designed for people who know nothing and who are unwilling to learn.
Oh, please. These are products. You buy a product to perform a task. When it succeeds in doing that task with minimal fuss, it's successful. Somewhere along the way, you have to figure out how much money you want to spend developing the product, and how much bullshit your potential customers will be willing to put up with, and come up with the bare minimum needed to ship. The "customers don't want to think" argument is a justification for poor design.
The 'people willing to think' that can use poorly designed software aren't actually smarter, they're just more interested in tinkering with it. The fact is, those dudes benefit from 'idiot design' as well. That's why you don't get mad when a dialog comes up asking you if you want to overwrite that file.
Fuck. I'm done with this site. I spent 15 years as a Linux admin and developer, and 15 years later everyone in LinuxLand still acts the same way - like little shits who think they know better.
The part that kills me about this is that the commenters on Slashdot have spent over ten years roasting Microsoft over how easy it is to write mal-ware for Windows and brag about how great Linux is impervious to it. Apple comes along, creates something that IT guys should LOVE... and... well no a few noisy people love their phones so Apple can do no right.
"idiot-ready" software is good software... for "idiots".
No, it's not. That's a myth started to defend the quality of OSS software and perpetuated by people who think they're above the masses because they know how to turn on encryption on their WiFi router.
"Idiot Ready" actually means 'thoughtfully designed'.
Of course, the second that Apple announces that they ARE, in fact, locking down the Mac's too, I suspect you'll see one of two responses (should be interesting to see how it goes):
Yeah, here's a third: They can't lock down Macs, just what they bring in through the App Store. Do you really think Apple's going to make it so you cannot run a Python script on your Macbook Pro?
In the mean time it's going to be a lot harder for that inexplicably popular Angry Birds clone to go rogue and start mailing off your personal data to some server in Russia.
Do people really have contacts named "girlfriend", "wife", "grandmother", etc.?
No. My contact has my girlfriend's name. I said "Siri, my girlfriend is "... and her name. A tag is then added to the contact listing her as girlfriend. I also told it who my dad, mother, sister, and boss are.
It's true, people get a kick out of Siri screwups. One day I said to Siri "tell my girlfriend I love her" The message that popped up was nicely addressed to my girlfriend and said "have her". I chuckled and clicked 'send'.
You try popping out your iPhone 4s in public transport and start giving voice commands to the thing.
Yeah, try the US where public transport is a joke. Siri's awesome for use in the car. "Read my newest text message" Besides that, it is starting to gain mass market appeal. That attitude could actually change in 2 years just like people talking on Bluetooth headsets did.
Why do you expect that company will spend time of employees to tech them or even hire someone to tech them how yiour phone works?
I expect them to say "sorry, we can't do that. Here's our clearly written policy on the matter". Instead what I get is: "Ok, it's set up. In a few weeks I'm going to grumble about it!"
Furthermore, unless you're the CEO or my boss in some other way, you don't get to add every single piece of technology under the sun to the list of things I'm required to support for you. IT (or those up the food chain from IT) decide what gets supported, not random people who think that iPads are cool, so they should purchase one and IT should be required to support it as if it were a product they researched and decided to use themselves.
Okay... so with the exception of the guy in the big chair, nobody can make you do anything you don't want to do. You don't "have" to support anything. It's just a big non-issue.
Ah, but it's not really like that, is it...
Letting people buy any random crap they think is neat, and then make IT support it, is almost 100% counterproductive to that goal.
... hah, yeah. So why is connecting to the company Exchange server 'neat'? It's because that obnoxious infestation of parasitic coworkers that are gobbling up your resources are being paid to do a job and sometimes it's worthwhile to buy a gadget to make it happen more efficiently. That's your job. Well, that is until you make the case to your superior to NOT support them. But once you've done that, you don't "have" to support them do ya?
So, when you go to work tomorrow, are you going to be hooking up iPads to the wireless network, or are you going to come up with an estimate of what it costs your company to support this and present that to your superiors so you can come up with a very clear policy so those twerps that do the work that pay your paycheck won't interrupt your web-browsing?
If you came into my office with that attitude, I would tell you fuck off and also make sure your shitty device NEVER touches my network. You piece of shit device gets onto the corporate network strictly on the terms the company sets and I enforce it. If you dont like it, fuck off.
No, you wouldn't. You see, there's a certain underlying reality here that you're in conflict with: When somebody says "I need my device that I carry with me at all times to connect to the company's mail server", they're saying "I want to do more job more efficiently." Guess what? In the eyes of the people paying your paycheck, those dudes win. Your job is to supply data to them and you know damn good and well you'd hook them up and then go back to browsing Slashdot and posting fun little short stories about what you'd do in an alternate dimension where you actually had any authority to tell anybody to fuck off. Your problem is *not* gadget happy employees.
Now answer the GP's questions
I did. But I guess I have to explain something that's actually really really obvious. If supporting all these devices has a measurable impact on the bottom line, you make the case and get a policy set. You nail a sign to your door that says "We will not hook up your iPad." If you can't make the case, then your job isn't going to be as easy as you'd like. Boo hoo.
You do realize you can zoom in to a drawing to handle fine detail with a larger stylus right? I mean DUH
Yes, you can use an uncomfortable stylus and blow your image way up to do some painting. You can also cross the United States on a skateboard.
Where's the goddam harness on this horseless carriage? Nor is there a place for my buggy-whi to be stored! Useless I say... File interchange is being figured out. !
Says me, I'm an iPad owner and content creator. I love my iPad, but it sucks for painting, writing, and video editing. It is, however, great for browsing and playing.
I mean it theoretically had a stylus, but please. For art you can simply zoom in a bit more if you want to sketch finer details with an iPad stylus.
You do realize that an iPad stylus is just a pencil with a fake finger on the end of it, right? A Wacom it is not.
Applications matter.
So does the interface. Seriously. The iPad doesn't even have a proper file system. How are you going to edit your videos if you can't grab images and sound from a library somewhere and connect it all together? The people you talk about 'creating content' are really just playing around and having fun with it.
Apple doesn't really care whether its customers come to harm... Liability and profit are the only concerns.
Derr. And guess which news story they don't want floating around. I'll give you a hint, they did a very quick update when the Smurf Berries thing came around.
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I don't think there are any issues. iPhone is designed to be used. I use mine so much during the day that I have to recharge it anyway while I'm sleeping. And it's great. I understand why owners of other phones don't really use them, but I love playing while on the move, and listen to music. When it's time for me to unwind, it's time for my iPhone to unwind too, and I put it recharging right next to me on bed.
Really? Apple's saying they've found software issues causing a problem and are beta testing a fix right now. Sure you wanna argue with that?
And although I'm happy with the 4S, and it's not dying on me before I get home from work, it's most certainly worse than the iPhone 4 I had. I can't wait for the update.
Does that mean you could come up with a trusted source and only have the APT command only use that one?
No, it means "designed for people who know nothing and who are unwilling to learn.
Oh, please. These are products. You buy a product to perform a task. When it succeeds in doing that task with minimal fuss, it's successful. Somewhere along the way, you have to figure out how much money you want to spend developing the product, and how much bullshit your potential customers will be willing to put up with, and come up with the bare minimum needed to ship. The "customers don't want to think" argument is a justification for poor design.
The 'people willing to think' that can use poorly designed software aren't actually smarter, they're just more interested in tinkering with it. The fact is, those dudes benefit from 'idiot design' as well. That's why you don't get mad when a dialog comes up asking you if you want to overwrite that file.
If Apple supported having multiple app-stores set up on your computer, as Ubuntu does...
Could you describe that a lil more?
b) ways to black or white list solutions from the Apple App store so that people don't install erotic applications on their work computer.
Hah. Apple won't allow 'erotic applications' in their store.
Fuck. I'm done with this site. I spent 15 years as a Linux admin and developer, and 15 years later everyone in LinuxLand still acts the same way - like little shits who think they know better.
The part that kills me about this is that the commenters on Slashdot have spent over ten years roasting Microsoft over how easy it is to write mal-ware for Windows and brag about how great Linux is impervious to it. Apple comes along, creates something that IT guys should LOVE... and... well no a few noisy people love their phones so Apple can do no right.
Good luck, man.
"idiot-ready" software is good software... for "idiots".
No, it's not. That's a myth started to defend the quality of OSS software and perpetuated by people who think they're above the masses because they know how to turn on encryption on their WiFi router.
"Idiot Ready" actually means 'thoughtfully designed'.
Which one isn't the Evil Company?
Of course, the second that Apple announces that they ARE, in fact, locking down the Mac's too, I suspect you'll see one of two responses (should be interesting to see how it goes):
Yeah, here's a third: They can't lock down Macs, just what they bring in through the App Store. Do you really think Apple's going to make it so you cannot run a Python script on your Macbook Pro?
In the mean time it's going to be a lot harder for that inexplicably popular Angry Birds clone to go rogue and start mailing off your personal data to some server in Russia.
Do people really have contacts named "girlfriend", "wife", "grandmother", etc.?
No. My contact has my girlfriend's name. I said "Siri, my girlfriend is "... and her name. A tag is then added to the contact listing her as girlfriend. I also told it who my dad, mother, sister, and boss are.
They're just keywords you add through Siri.
It's true, people get a kick out of Siri screwups. One day I said to Siri "tell my girlfriend I love her" The message that popped up was nicely addressed to my girlfriend and said "have her". I chuckled and clicked 'send'.
You try popping out your iPhone 4s in public transport and start giving voice commands to the thing.
Yeah, try the US where public transport is a joke. Siri's awesome for use in the car. "Read my newest text message" Besides that, it is starting to gain mass market appeal. That attitude could actually change in 2 years just like people talking on Bluetooth headsets did.
Non issue.
Why do you expect that company will spend time of employees to tech them or even hire someone to tech them how yiour phone works?
I expect them to say "sorry, we can't do that. Here's our clearly written policy on the matter". Instead what I get is: "Ok, it's set up. In a few weeks I'm going to grumble about it!"
Furthermore, unless you're the CEO or my boss in some other way, you don't get to add every single piece of technology under the sun to the list of things I'm required to support for you. IT (or those up the food chain from IT) decide what gets supported, not random people who think that iPads are cool, so they should purchase one and IT should be required to support it as if it were a product they researched and decided to use themselves.
Okay... so with the exception of the guy in the big chair, nobody can make you do anything you don't want to do. You don't "have" to support anything. It's just a big non-issue.
Ah, but it's not really like that, is it...
Letting people buy any random crap they think is neat, and then make IT support it, is almost 100% counterproductive to that goal.
... hah, yeah. So why is connecting to the company Exchange server 'neat'? It's because that obnoxious infestation of parasitic coworkers that are gobbling up your resources are being paid to do a job and sometimes it's worthwhile to buy a gadget to make it happen more efficiently. That's your job. Well, that is until you make the case to your superior to NOT support them. But once you've done that, you don't "have" to support them do ya?
So, when you go to work tomorrow, are you going to be hooking up iPads to the wireless network, or are you going to come up with an estimate of what it costs your company to support this and present that to your superiors so you can come up with a very clear policy so those twerps that do the work that pay your paycheck won't interrupt your web-browsing?
If you came into my office with that attitude, I would tell you fuck off and also make sure your shitty device NEVER touches my network. You piece of shit device gets onto the corporate network strictly on the terms the company sets and I enforce it. If you dont like it, fuck off.
No, you wouldn't. You see, there's a certain underlying reality here that you're in conflict with: When somebody says "I need my device that I carry with me at all times to connect to the company's mail server", they're saying "I want to do more job more efficiently." Guess what? In the eyes of the people paying your paycheck, those dudes win. Your job is to supply data to them and you know damn good and well you'd hook them up and then go back to browsing Slashdot and posting fun little short stories about what you'd do in an alternate dimension where you actually had any authority to tell anybody to fuck off. Your problem is *not* gadget happy employees.
Now answer the GP's questions
I did. But I guess I have to explain something that's actually really really obvious. If supporting all these devices has a measurable impact on the bottom line, you make the case and get a policy set. You nail a sign to your door that says "We will not hook up your iPad." If you can't make the case, then your job isn't going to be as easy as you'd like. Boo hoo.
Why can't you say 'no'?
If the pollicy is so clear then what's the conflict?
Why do I have to support your purchase?
You're asking why you have to do your job?
Does Google index Slashdot comments?
Now you are claiming the fault of the iPad stylus is that it is "uncomfortable"? Please.
Yes. It's not the stylus, it's the display they use. That's why it looks (and feels) like the end of a finger and not a precise pointing tool.
As for the difficulty gap, it's more akin to driving across the country in a Honda instead of an Audi...
You eventually reach the same place.
Thank you for supporting my point.
Those who cannot see the future and don't even try are usually the worst off when it actually arrives.
And now we're changing tenses to persist with the failing argument.
You do realize you can zoom in to a drawing to handle fine detail with a larger stylus right? I mean DUH
Yes, you can use an uncomfortable stylus and blow your image way up to do some painting. You can also cross the United States on a skateboard.
Where's the goddam harness on this horseless carriage? Nor is there a place for my buggy-whi to be stored! Useless I say ... File interchange is being figured out. !
Mmm hmm.
Says who?
Says me, I'm an iPad owner and content creator. I love my iPad, but it sucks for painting, writing, and video editing. It is, however, great for browsing and playing.
I mean it theoretically had a stylus, but please. For art you can simply zoom in a bit more if you want to sketch finer details with an iPad stylus.
You do realize that an iPad stylus is just a pencil with a fake finger on the end of it, right? A Wacom it is not.
Applications matter.
So does the interface. Seriously. The iPad doesn't even have a proper file system. How are you going to edit your videos if you can't grab images and sound from a library somewhere and connect it all together? The people you talk about 'creating content' are really just playing around and having fun with it.
The idea was that the system would only run MS software on MS hardware. No upgrades would be possible. .
And it'd come in various colors named after fruit.
'The App Store had established some kind of intravenous connection to my body and was pumping me full of Apple-branded heroin.
Gee, you think this is the sentence that got this story approved for Slashdot?
You don't get the point? Really?? Are you still using DOS?
Apple doesn't really care whether its customers come to harm... Liability and profit are the only concerns.
Derr. And guess which news story they don't want floating around. I'll give you a hint, they did a very quick update when the Smurf Berries thing came around.