My main problem with the first-gen iPad is that, yes, it has all those things...but it costs more (substantially so, depending on which model you get) than a netbook...all while having netbook internals with no keyboard.
It's also running it's own OS and applications, meaning that the netbook-like-internals don't really mean much as they're being used differently. You're buying 'what it can do' not 'what it is made of'.
I don't get it. I suppose this is nice if it gets people to use Opera, but honestly... if that's your excuse, there's probably a better reason you're using something else.
People are hesitant to change, especially when they have a workflow they like. It's confusing, though, because nobody actually says that's the reason. "I don't want to change" sounds silly as a response to "it has better features!" Instead, "well I use a very specific set of extensions that I won't elaborate on" makes you sound much more level headed.
It's a shame, really, "I like what I got" isn't a bad excuse. At least I hope it isn't, it's the one I use.
I can buy a very capable laptop with 3G capability for less than that and it will be useful for more than just browsing pictures and watching youtube.
The iPad has interesting advantages over a low-cost laptop or netbook involving portability, battery life, screen size, and app availability. Depending on what you want and what you already have, it's value is not clear cut as you're making it out to be.
Yeah, you should get a Nokia N900! It does everything your pitiful Android and iPhones doesn't do. I don't have one so don't press me for more details about how it's superior. Oh, and can you believe that stupid Windows 7 shill?
Because this is an ad-supported site and every news story with the word 'Apple' in it generates heaps of comments. Think about that next time to you contribute to the thread.
Alrighty, well this will make divvying up the galaxy into quadrants. I recommend a simple naming scheme: Alpha, Beta, Delta, and Gamma. Umm... I'm not sure where the Neutral Zone should go.
Fuck you Oracle. Android is the only mobile OS worth using on the market right now, why are you trying to fuck that up? Its not like Apple's garbage is worth using.
You should check out the Nokia(R) N900! I've never even held one, but it's the underdog so I don't sound like a shill by recommending it!!
That's because they are almost all of the type 'use a [general-purpose device] to do [specific thing].'
No, they're not. That's what the eyeball-grabbing-summary says. The actual patents say "use these 10 steps to achieve this one result". For example: Slashdot ran a story that Microsoft patented page-turning on an e-book reader. There was a big dog-pile as people leapt in to claim prior art, citing a million Flash apps that allowed page turning. Nobody bothered to read the bit that described, in detail, how it was a gesture input that included things like how many pages to turn, what multiple fingers would do, and how the UI would respond graphically to let the user know how all that was going to go down.
This is not an occasional occurance. It happens every time. You lot are so busy looking for reasons to say software patents are bad you don't check on any of the things you're arguing about. You're shooting your own credibility in the foot, arguing with me isn't going to fix that.
Either there's something a bit more nuanced about the patent....
Um, that's the case with ALL the patents Slashdot has covered. Everybody cries 'obvious' when they oversimplify the task, nobody cites elements of the patent and says 'prior art!' I haven't seen the patent yet, but I have a dollar that says they attempted to patent using a particular instruction set in a way it wasn't intended to pull off a really slick result. That's usually what happens but it takes time to go look that up and we all want the word 'insightful' to appear by our posts.
There's 'need' and there's 'enjoy using'. I've played a bunch of action games on the iPhone and it just doesn't cut it. Sonic the Hedgehog on the iPad wasn't bad, I think having the bigger surface area helped. But if I'm right about that then it works against the phone.
Eh... ordinarily I would agree with that but Apple seems to be doing fine with games on the iPhone. There's a difference between upgrading the RAM and using a radically different architecture.
That experiment would be more valid if you had different items.
Well, derr, I was aiming for silly, not Insightful.;)
But if you're interested in it from a behavioral point of view, I'll point out something I've noticed: They respond to context. I'm the one that feeds both of the cats. My chair in my office makes a distinctive squeaking noise when I stand up. Every time I stand up, my girlfriend's cat immediately leaps off her lap and stands at the base of the stairs. Also, whenever my alarm goes off, they both sit on the bed. If they're really hungry, one of them will sit on my chest as a 'cuddly' way of waking me up. (They know if they push too hard the door'll be closed and they'll be on the wrong side of it.)
Opening a can of cat-food gets their attention, but everything leading up to it does as well. They're very routine-oriented creatures. Every day my cat waits by the door just about the time I come home. During the weekends he just sits in the window and snoozes. Very bizarre. You'd almost think he was reading clocks.
By this age it's way too much to carry around mobile phone, gaming device and everything else. Mobile devices are a lot more powerful now and you can fit everything in your phone.
Speaking as a gamer... no, this is not true. If there's one lesson we've learned over 30 years of home gaming it's that the controllers really matter in ways that the processors don't.
I don't think my cat uses hearing to detect an opened can of food. I did an experiment once where he was on the ground floor and at the opposite end. I carefully and quietly opened the can and *PifF* he teleported into the room, right by the bowl. I don't know how they do that.
Yet even sourceforge doesn't provide copy and paste friendly download links anymore. It's got to automatically start your download for you because you're just too fucking lazy to make one more click.
Great!!! I've always wanted a phone that won't work if I am jogging, riding a horse, skiing, walking on ice, sprain my ankle, having a gout attack, riding a bicycle, fleeing for my life,.... When can I expect to be able to buy this wonder?
You're a slashdotter, when are you going to do any of that?
What's so different between putting a man and a woman in space? I could see the "first child conceived in space" or the "first birth in space", but why does the (astro|cosmo)naut's gender matter in this context?
I dare you to ask your mother, aunt, or grandmother that question.
One thing/. could do to improve slightly would be to outright prevent AC from being the first poster for an article. That would mostly eliminate the "first post" crap.
You're worried about first posts? What Slashdot needs is a meme-filter.
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My main problem with the first-gen iPad is that, yes, it has all those things...but it costs more (substantially so, depending on which model you get) than a netbook...all while having netbook internals with no keyboard.
It's also running it's own OS and applications, meaning that the netbook-like-internals don't really mean much as they're being used differently. You're buying 'what it can do' not 'what it is made of'.
I don't get it. I suppose this is nice if it gets people to use Opera, but honestly... if that's your excuse, there's probably a better reason you're using something else.
People are hesitant to change, especially when they have a workflow they like. It's confusing, though, because nobody actually says that's the reason. "I don't want to change" sounds silly as a response to "it has better features!" Instead, "well I use a very specific set of extensions that I won't elaborate on" makes you sound much more level headed.
It's a shame, really, "I like what I got" isn't a bad excuse. At least I hope it isn't, it's the one I use.
I can buy a very capable laptop with 3G capability for less than that and it will be useful for more than just browsing pictures and watching youtube.
The iPad has interesting advantages over a low-cost laptop or netbook involving portability, battery life, screen size, and app availability. Depending on what you want and what you already have, it's value is not clear cut as you're making it out to be.
So how is this different to developing games/apps for the desktop....
Screens are big, RAM and CPU resources are abundant, and natively there is more abstraction.
Yeah, you should get a Nokia N900! It does everything your pitiful Android and iPhones doesn't do. I don't have one so don't press me for more details about how it's superior. Oh, and can you believe that stupid Windows 7 shill?
And seriously... is this really front page material?
You'd rather argue about smartphones?
This is worthy of a front page news item why?
Because this is an ad-supported site and every news story with the word 'Apple' in it generates heaps of comments. Think about that next time to you contribute to the thread.
Alrighty, well this will make divvying up the galaxy into quadrants. I recommend a simple naming scheme: Alpha, Beta, Delta, and Gamma. Umm... I'm not sure where the Neutral Zone should go.
Canon Blocks Copy Jobs Using Banned Keywords
If the keywords are banned, how can you use them to do any copy blocking?
Fuck you Oracle. Android is the only mobile OS worth using on the market right now, why are you trying to fuck that up? Its not like Apple's garbage is worth using.
You should check out the Nokia(R) N900! I've never even held one, but it's the underdog so I don't sound like a shill by recommending it!!
That's because they are almost all of the type 'use a [general-purpose device] to do [specific thing].'
No, they're not. That's what the eyeball-grabbing-summary says. The actual patents say "use these 10 steps to achieve this one result". For example: Slashdot ran a story that Microsoft patented page-turning on an e-book reader. There was a big dog-pile as people leapt in to claim prior art, citing a million Flash apps that allowed page turning. Nobody bothered to read the bit that described, in detail, how it was a gesture input that included things like how many pages to turn, what multiple fingers would do, and how the UI would respond graphically to let the user know how all that was going to go down.
This is not an occasional occurance. It happens every time. You lot are so busy looking for reasons to say software patents are bad you don't check on any of the things you're arguing about. You're shooting your own credibility in the foot, arguing with me isn't going to fix that.
Either there's something a bit more nuanced about the patent....
Um, that's the case with ALL the patents Slashdot has covered. Everybody cries 'obvious' when they oversimplify the task, nobody cites elements of the patent and says 'prior art!' I haven't seen the patent yet, but I have a dollar that says they attempted to patent using a particular instruction set in a way it wasn't intended to pull off a really slick result. That's usually what happens but it takes time to go look that up and we all want the word 'insightful' to appear by our posts.
There's 'need' and there's 'enjoy using'. I've played a bunch of action games on the iPhone and it just doesn't cut it. Sonic the Hedgehog on the iPad wasn't bad, I think having the bigger surface area helped. But if I'm right about that then it works against the phone.
Eh... ordinarily I would agree with that but Apple seems to be doing fine with games on the iPhone. There's a difference between upgrading the RAM and using a radically different architecture.
Actually.. I think they know I'm opening it because they've ordered me to do it.
That experiment would be more valid if you had different items.
Well, derr, I was aiming for silly, not Insightful. ;)
But if you're interested in it from a behavioral point of view, I'll point out something I've noticed: They respond to context. I'm the one that feeds both of the cats. My chair in my office makes a distinctive squeaking noise when I stand up. Every time I stand up, my girlfriend's cat immediately leaps off her lap and stands at the base of the stairs. Also, whenever my alarm goes off, they both sit on the bed. If they're really hungry, one of them will sit on my chest as a 'cuddly' way of waking me up. (They know if they push too hard the door'll be closed and they'll be on the wrong side of it.)
Opening a can of cat-food gets their attention, but everything leading up to it does as well. They're very routine-oriented creatures. Every day my cat waits by the door just about the time I come home. During the weekends he just sits in the window and snoozes. Very bizarre. You'd almost think he was reading clocks.
By this age it's way too much to carry around mobile phone, gaming device and everything else. Mobile devices are a lot more powerful now and you can fit everything in your phone.
Speaking as a gamer... no, this is not true. If there's one lesson we've learned over 30 years of home gaming it's that the controllers really matter in ways that the processors don't.
I don't think my cat uses hearing to detect an opened can of food. I did an experiment once where he was on the ground floor and at the opposite end. I carefully and quietly opened the can and *PifF* he teleported into the room, right by the bowl. I don't know how they do that.
Yet even sourceforge doesn't provide copy and paste friendly download links anymore. It's got to automatically start your download for you because you're just too fucking lazy to make one more click.
Actually that's an extra stop to serve you ads.
Roger Roger.
Oveur and Dunn.
Great!!! I've always wanted a phone that won't work if I am jogging, riding a horse, skiing, walking on ice, sprain my ankle, having a gout attack, riding a bicycle, fleeing for my life, .... When can I expect to be able to buy this wonder?
You're a slashdotter, when are you going to do any of that?
What's so different between putting a man and a woman in space? I could see the "first child conceived in space" or the "first birth in space", but why does the (astro|cosmo)naut's gender matter in this context?
I dare you to ask your mother, aunt, or grandmother that question.
The possibility of successfully spotting an asteroid collision is approximately 3,720 to 1!
One thing /. could do to improve slightly would be to outright prevent AC from being the first poster for an article. That would mostly eliminate the "first post" crap.
You're worried about first posts? What Slashdot needs is a meme-filter.
Like comment moderation would ever work
You do realize that the moderation system is why people keep using that overlords joke, right?