I thought I checked that "Ads disabled" option checkbox at the top of/. page
I hate to break it to you, but we geeks really do have an appetite for blinky things that cost money. I can only imagine the amount of emotional turmoil this site is causing you.
Sigh.. That's because the trend of wall gardened personal devices is relatively new.
No, it's not. Everything we have is a descendant of 'walled garden' devices. General purpose machines won. As it comes up several times a day here, there's a huge leap between an iOS device and a netbook.
Precedent is not the only way one can predict the future. Preemption also works.
Apparently you can also predict the future by taking a flawed concept and taking it to an extreme, no matter how much sense it doesn't really make.
It looks like you're shilling for Microsoft. Would you like to:
* Talk about how Microsoft solutions are enterprise ready * Bash Google and/or Apple for no apparent reason * Mention the hidden costs of open source * Cleverly forget to mention Microsoft disasters such as Bob, the Zune, Windows Mobile, or Vista
Just once I would like to see a +5 accusation of shilling include a solid rebuttal.
Not really bias. There is precedent. Does apple allow you to install your own applications on iphone? No they do not. The first step towards any lock down software regime is to offer it as a choice on the existing open platform.
There's also a precedent of Apple NOT locking down software like that. How many years has the Mac been around?
Yes, it is bias. When Apple puts iOS on notebook'esque computers, THEN you have a precedent to waggle your fingers on Slashdot about.
For building a telegraph (or any electronic communications medium), the challenge lies in the miles of wire that are needed.
There's also the 'hindsight is 20/20' factor. Once the basics are understood, the 'technology' needed to construct something like that isn't a BFD. Back to the Future III was far more interesting.
Yes. However they are not fundamentally different.
Uh, yes they are. Heh. Seriously, try to imagine locking down OSX in such a way that you cannot install apps without using their store. That means not writing files in key places and not allowing executables. No more interpreted languages, no more mounting of flash drives, you name it.
OSX is NOT a lot like iOS. It shares ancestry but its userland philosophy is waaaay different. Your assessment of the two is way too superficial.
Sony would make it explosive, Microsoft would make them so they could only half-charge, and Google wouldn't sell it to you until you turned over all your past and future search history.
Getting everyone hooked on the app store is phase 1. If it catches on fast enough, they may be able to start imposing the lockdown in OS X Lion--that's why they're launching the app store now.
You do realize they'd have to switch to something like iOS to actually lock down the Mac enough for this to work, right?
This is just another nice income stream for Apple. Does anyone really think that Apple would remove every other way of installing software from the Mac?
No, but babbling about it makes the word 'Insightful' appear next to our posts.
A few years ago it was popular to make CG images of starships with a procedural/fractal nebula in the background. I used to make comments like: "The Enterprise is investigating the Mandelbrot Nebula", but nobody I know of ever got it.
I'm not paying $100 for a 120 gig hard drive, because that's asinine.
I agree with you, but that's mainly because you could probably buy your own hard drive and put it in. The iPhone and iPad aren't really the same animal. What would make me agree with you is if either of those devices used an off-the-shelf OS. That make sense?
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I thought I checked that "Ads disabled" option checkbox at the top of /. page
I hate to break it to you, but we geeks really do have an appetite for blinky things that cost money. I can only imagine the amount of emotional turmoil this site is causing you.
That's the neat thing about science, every little bit helps.
Somehow I feel way less sympathy for these guys now that I can afford to just buy the games I want... weird.
Try buying and installing those games. Your sympathy will return shortly.
This is really starting to look more and more like the iphone.
Not really, no. Seriously, if they want to go more towards the iPhone, they'll port iOS to the desktop.
Sigh.. That's because the trend of wall gardened personal devices is relatively new.
No, it's not. Everything we have is a descendant of 'walled garden' devices. General purpose machines won. As it comes up several times a day here, there's a huge leap between an iOS device and a netbook.
Precedent is not the only way one can predict the future. Preemption also works.
Apparently you can also predict the future by taking a flawed concept and taking it to an extreme, no matter how much sense it doesn't really make.
It looks like you're shilling for Microsoft. Would you like to:
* Talk about how Microsoft solutions are enterprise ready
* Bash Google and/or Apple for no apparent reason
* Mention the hidden costs of open source
* Cleverly forget to mention Microsoft disasters such as Bob, the Zune, Windows Mobile, or Vista
Just once I would like to see a +5 accusation of shilling include a solid rebuttal.
Not really bias. There is precedent. Does apple allow you to install your own applications on iphone? No they do not. The first step towards any lock down software regime is to offer it as a choice on the existing open platform.
There's also a precedent of Apple NOT locking down software like that. How many years has the Mac been around?
Yes, it is bias. When Apple puts iOS on notebook'esque computers, THEN you have a precedent to waggle your fingers on Slashdot about.
For building a telegraph (or any electronic communications medium), the challenge lies in the miles of wire that are needed.
There's also the 'hindsight is 20/20' factor. Once the basics are understood, the 'technology' needed to construct something like that isn't a BFD. Back to the Future III was far more interesting.
Babbling about it also allows others to be informed so that they can make the right choice for them.
You're not 'informing' them, you're spreading your particular bias of a topic to those who don't know any better.
Where did you think fanboys came from?
Yep, there a significant number of cases that could be one element of the solution.
Yes. However they are not fundamentally different.
Uh, yes they are. Heh. Seriously, try to imagine locking down OSX in such a way that you cannot install apps without using their store. That means not writing files in key places and not allowing executables. No more interpreted languages, no more mounting of flash drives, you name it.
OSX is NOT a lot like iOS. It shares ancestry but its userland philosophy is waaaay different. Your assessment of the two is way too superficial.
You do realize that iOS isn't far removed from OS X, right?
You do realize that the difference between OSX and iOS isn't a simple config file change, right?
Your post wouldn't have been dependent on browser speed if it wasn't such an obvious joke.
Apple would still make it un-replaceable ;)
Sony would make it explosive, Microsoft would make them so they could only half-charge, and Google wouldn't sell it to you until you turned over all your past and future search history.
Tee hee giggle snort.
As exciting as this is, I would take this news... ... with a grain of salt.
Ugh. If you ever said that to me in person I'd likely be charged with a salt and battery.
How is an interplanetary transport a "starship"?
Ever wondered what that big glowing thing at the center of our solar system is called?
Just like Microsoft with its Xbox - ultimately, it will have Windows for business, and XBox for consumers...
..what?
Getting everyone hooked on the app store is phase 1. If it catches on fast enough, they may be able to start imposing the lockdown in OS X Lion--that's why they're launching the app store now.
You do realize they'd have to switch to something like iOS to actually lock down the Mac enough for this to work, right?
This is just another nice income stream for Apple. Does anyone really think that Apple would remove every other way of installing software from the Mac?
No, but babbling about it makes the word 'Insightful' appear next to our posts.
I just assumed virtualization had made dual booting a relic of the 90s that we never needed to talk about again.
No, not true. But I work with peeps who do a lot of 3d stuff.
How the heck can IT battle this? (Is it obviously a social issue?)
Why should they? He's not exposing the company to harm. At that point it's just a productivity issue.
A few years ago it was popular to make CG images of starships with a procedural/fractal nebula in the background. I used to make comments like: "The Enterprise is investigating the Mandelbrot Nebula", but nobody I know of ever got it.
You might also notice, that various versions of MS office don't instantly inter-operate properly either.
Are you expecting that to improve by throwing a competing app into the mix?
I'm not paying $100 for a 120 gig hard drive, because that's asinine.
I agree with you, but that's mainly because you could probably buy your own hard drive and put it in. The iPhone and iPad aren't really the same animal. What would make me agree with you is if either of those devices used an off-the-shelf OS. That make sense?
... demo'd the interoperability and the ease of switching, but because it's not Microsoft they just can't consider it "reliable".
They're right. Or do you expect OO to instantly inter-operate properly with docs created by the next version of MS Office?