I would love to hear you definition about liberal.
But libertarianism is a branch of the liberal thought from the enlightenment era. Actually libertarianism just a word used by anarchist to deflect censorship, but i digress, Ayn Rand mumbo jumbo is a form of laizzis faire liberalism.
Trying to be social determinismts, you must use the most general and stereotypical easy deffinition, that's so broad contradictions don't got something to grab on.
On my course about writing papers, the lecturer warned us about using generalities.
Maybe, but even if there were a study proving 80% of Portugese are either this or that, i would rather know a Portugese individual FIRST HAND before i go on judging him.
This kind of cultural determinism makes me cringe.
The third guy with the gun allegory is stupid, since the techniques in question, being public domain, would not near the kind of state you a describing, if it was public domain, a full fledged competition would erupt to utilize the techniques the best they could.
How is it free enterprise to limit technology thats allready been developed, from a public source no less. Its blueprints you found on the streets.
"Generally the firm with the best financing will also be the one best able to manage production and exploit the patent and produce value for society in the form of new and useful products and services. Maybe you don't believe that, but most economists working today would be substantially in agreement with that sentiment."
i'm really not sure what economist you are refering to, but by purpose limiting adventures to one company only and by some voodoo decree declare that they will do everything right just because they got the most dough?
"So which is better, the chance to buy useful products at a high price, or no meaningful chance to buy the products at any price because they were never invented in the first place or they were substantially delayed?""
So the rich company that could afford the bid, and thus wouldn't have to spend money on the bid, now cant for some reason work on the freely available patent?
Yeah, im not big on free market rhetoric, especially when people want everything in the infrastructure to be private.
But when it comes to more special situation where the flow of information is clearer and where public goods aint on the stakes, then the free market logic can rule a little. I've got nothing against that, and yes i do consider myself a socialist.
However i digress, you are not doing a good job advocating free market at all, since competition is one of the traits of the dogma, you proactively goes against it.
There is NO reason for this to be patented, several enterprises can come up with theirs own specialisations filling alot of empty corners in a market.
That's so horrible simplified i cant find word for it.
So what if a firm is younger and havent gathered enough capital then an older firm.
Actually, there is probably more then just "ONE" firm that could handle the patents and come up with the dough for this scam.
Yet only one would get it?
Then that company would have monopoly on the patents and by all free market rhetoric, wouldn't be pressured to be "efficient".
Maybe one day, my children will experience a world were people finally acknowledges that politics is more complex then a one dimensional line.
or two, or three, GODT DAMNIT! PEOPLE ITS OVER 9000 LINES!
Taking the liberal(no not the silly word in USA) stand here.
Wouldn't it be better if several companies be able to produce several of their own products of the patents instead of one? competition and all that jazz.
The closest the world ever came to experience capitalism, was under the liberal UK, in 19 century.
Completely caught up in laisiz faire.
This was a catahstrophe for Ireland when the potateofamine struck.
When the potato crops failed because of the potato disease, there were other food sources, livestock and grain.
Which WASNT profitable to sell domesticly!
During the 5 year famine, even when millions were dying, British landowners still shipped food to places where people could afford them.
The British goverment were so against going against the market and free enterprise and the considered emergency food shipments a dent in the market forces.
When they finally was forced to get off their self righteus asses, they sent cornflour to be diveded to people, but as a wage for building roads that led to nowhere, and you can imagine thousands of allready starving people worked to death.
http://www.nde.state.ne.us/ss/irish/irish_pf.html
History my ass, try to get your head of the metaphorical ass.
I do consider myself a socialist, but nowhere near anything drastic as what most extreme liberals, if we take them as counter parts.
I have no intention of abboloshing private enterprises, or telling people what jobs they should have.
But extrme, laisizz faire liberalism, have the dubios honor to be entirely ruled by rhetoric and myopic thinking!
Its basicly the economic version of "Classical element theory"
Capitalism? Where?
Since there isnt a place in the world where everything is privatly owned, i assumed you just got high on rhetoric.
By the way, you do know capitalism is a term invented by Marx;)
Other then that, please come with a solution that makes it possible that several cable companies can dig around in public or private land to get their fibers around without messing around with the infrastructure.
I'm sure you dont need to be reminded the inconvinience of shutting down a public road for 4 weeks.
"Iran signed the NPA; they were completely free to use nuclear power. The only problem is that they allegedly started their nuclear program without informing the IAEA, which means they broke the terms they agreed to in the NPA."
They have not broken the NPA, the broke some of the aditional safety protocols agreed to.
After that they have signed additional safty protocols and the AIEA have flooded with reports on the compliance of Iran following suit with their will, ElBaradei is convinced no nuclear weapons is being worked on so is USA's NIA.
"Their actions only make sense if nuclear weapons are their goal. (Also they are refusing pre-enriched uranium from Russia; why? The only logical reason is that they want to be able to enrich to weapons grade, and Russia would only sell them reactor grade.)"
Or simply put, they want to be self-sufficient, i mean, its not that Russia is reliable with their energy fuel.
This is for openGL programmers like me, rite?!
I have an excuse to 15000 kr on this right?
I need something decent for that gcc compiler or god forbid visual studio, right?!
PLEASE TELL ME I MUST HAVE THIS!!
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I would love to hear you definition about liberal.
But libertarianism is a branch of the liberal thought from the enlightenment era.
Actually libertarianism just a word used by anarchist to deflect censorship, but i digress, Ayn Rand mumbo jumbo is a form of laizzis faire liberalism.
The rest of the world dont use.
Trying to be social determinismts, you must use the most general and stereotypical easy deffinition, that's so broad contradictions don't got something to grab on.
On my course about writing papers, the lecturer warned us about using generalities.
This is beyond stupid.
Got books from Karl Marx, you might be a socialist, if you got book from Nozick or Ayn Rand you might be a liberal.
I should have taken sociology courses instead.
Sorry, but if you are going to make up groups of "deserving" "undeserving" it really proves they are really needed.
So why did they defend Ollie North of all people?
Or Limbaugh.
What i see in that link is just nationalists caring more about their pride then the ideals they pretend to stand by.
Are you into Achewood by any chance?
Maybe, but even if there were a study proving 80% of Portugese are either this or that, i would rather know a Portugese individual FIRST HAND before i go on judging him.
This kind of cultural determinism makes me cringe.
The super collider super exploded.
That people will be more secure when they search laptops for.....ehm...terrorists?
Again, you don't get, if we can drop the preschool economics and focus on the issue here.
Also, you generalise, you automaticly went over to left/right modus, and go on about rant with the usual clichés!
Now, onto the issue.
The third guy with the gun allegory is stupid, since the techniques in question, being public domain, would not near the kind of state you a describing, if it was public domain, a full fledged competition would erupt to utilize the techniques the best they could.
SHEEZ louise!
How is it free enterprise to limit technology thats allready been developed, from a public source no less.
Its blueprints you found on the streets.
"Generally the firm with the best financing will also be the one best able to manage production and exploit the patent and produce value for society in the form of new and useful products and services. Maybe you don't believe that, but most economists working today would be substantially in agreement with that sentiment."
i'm really not sure what economist you are refering to, but by purpose limiting adventures to one company only and by some voodoo decree declare that they will do everything right just because they got the most dough?
"So which is better, the chance to buy useful products at a high price, or no meaningful chance to buy the products at any price because they were never invented in the first place or they were substantially delayed?""
So the rich company that could afford the bid, and thus wouldn't have to spend money on the bid, now cant for some reason work on the freely available patent?
Yeah, im not big on free market rhetoric, especially when people want everything in the infrastructure to be private.
But when it comes to more special situation where the flow of information is clearer and where public goods aint on the stakes, then the free market logic can rule a little.
I've got nothing against that, and yes i do consider myself a socialist.
However i digress, you are not doing a good job advocating free market at all, since competition is one of the traits of the dogma, you proactively goes against it.
There is NO reason for this to be patented, several enterprises can come up with theirs own specialisations filling alot of empty corners in a market.
Don't put all the egss in one basket.
Now DAMNIT ./ MOD ME!!!
That's so horrible simplified i cant find word for it. So what if a firm is younger and havent gathered enough capital then an older firm. Actually, there is probably more then just "ONE" firm that could handle the patents and come up with the dough for this scam. Yet only one would get it? Then that company would have monopoly on the patents and by all free market rhetoric, wouldn't be pressured to be "efficient".
Maybe one day, my children will experience a world were people finally acknowledges that politics is more complex then a one dimensional line. or two, or three, GODT DAMNIT! PEOPLE ITS OVER 9000 LINES!
Taking the liberal(no not the silly word in USA) stand here. Wouldn't it be better if several companies be able to produce several of their own products of the patents instead of one? competition and all that jazz.
If i took time to study the issue i might have lost first post.
PRAISE CANADA!
Rhetoric is NEVER insightful!
The closest the world ever came to experience capitalism, was under the liberal UK, in 19 century. Completely caught up in laisiz faire. This was a catahstrophe for Ireland when the potateofamine struck. When the potato crops failed because of the potato disease, there were other food sources, livestock and grain. Which WASNT profitable to sell domesticly! During the 5 year famine, even when millions were dying, British landowners still shipped food to places where people could afford them. The British goverment were so against going against the market and free enterprise and the considered emergency food shipments a dent in the market forces. When they finally was forced to get off their self righteus asses, they sent cornflour to be diveded to people, but as a wage for building roads that led to nowhere, and you can imagine thousands of allready starving people worked to death. http://www.nde.state.ne.us/ss/irish/irish_pf.html History my ass, try to get your head of the metaphorical ass. I do consider myself a socialist, but nowhere near anything drastic as what most extreme liberals, if we take them as counter parts. I have no intention of abboloshing private enterprises, or telling people what jobs they should have. But extrme, laisizz faire liberalism, have the dubios honor to be entirely ruled by rhetoric and myopic thinking! Its basicly the economic version of "Classical element theory"
Capitalism? Where? Since there isnt a place in the world where everything is privatly owned, i assumed you just got high on rhetoric. By the way, you do know capitalism is a term invented by Marx ;)
Other then that, please come with a solution that makes it possible that several cable companies can dig around in public or private land to get their fibers around without messing around with the infrastructure.
I'm sure you dont need to be reminded the inconvinience of shutting down a public road for 4 weeks.
We should rather do something about the enviromentalist strawman.
"Iran signed the NPA; they were completely free to use nuclear power. The only problem is that they allegedly started their nuclear program without informing the IAEA, which means they broke the terms they agreed to in the NPA." They have not broken the NPA, the broke some of the aditional safety protocols agreed to. After that they have signed additional safty protocols and the AIEA have flooded with reports on the compliance of Iran following suit with their will, ElBaradei is convinced no nuclear weapons is being worked on so is USA's NIA. "Their actions only make sense if nuclear weapons are their goal. (Also they are refusing pre-enriched uranium from Russia; why? The only logical reason is that they want to be able to enrich to weapons grade, and Russia would only sell them reactor grade.)" Or simply put, they want to be self-sufficient, i mean, its not that Russia is reliable with their energy fuel.
This is for openGL programmers like me, rite?! I have an excuse to 15000 kr on this right? I need something decent for that gcc compiler or god forbid visual studio, right?! PLEASE TELL ME I MUST HAVE THIS!!
Do you have any idea how cool this is for us cyberpunk fans? DO YA!?
Oh, god. I'm not looking forward for the new update on the DMCA.
I'm sure the ICT department were real sorry they couldnt facilitate RIAA's demands.