No, it's just a sensible reaction to a broken law to balance out all the times when it wasn't broken.
People have always been infringing on copyright. It's just a rationalization to claim that it is now being done because of an unbalanced law.
Not when the work is priced such that there is no significant net value to the public, just the creators and middlemen/parasites.
Easily refuted by people who actually pay. This is just more rationalization to take what you want for free. If it's so bad, don't illegally copy it.
No, he said refuse to obey unethical laws. Nothing to do with collapsing the system.
He said "the only hope for change is in forcing a collapse of the system". If nobody bought into copyrighted works, it would be a moot law. It would all be creative commons or open source.
If the law is going to be broken, why follow an arbitrary restriction?
To prove that the problem is the stated one. Otherwise it's just an excuse to get what you want.
Perpetual extension of copyright essentially eliminates the public's gain in that social contract.
Not completely. The public still gains from the works that are produced with the expectation of copyright.
In fact, the only ethical course of action at this point is to refuse to obey the law.
You could refuse to buy or support any copyrighted work and put your support behind works with open source licenses. It would have the same effect of collapsing the system.
"The US law firm of Dunlap, Grubb, & Weaver, otherwise known as the US Copyright Group, filed suit at the end of August against another 2,177 individuals for allegedly downloading and sharing the slasher film Cornered! (In total the USCG has now filed suit against over 16,200 individuals.) In retaliation, Operation Payback, the Anonymous-led project responsible for DDoSing websites of the RIAA and MPAA, targeted the US Copyright Group's website with a DDoS, temporarily bringing it down for a few hours."
But the laws have been hopelessly perverted by the multinationals against the wishes of the people as I doubt very seriously you could even find 5% that would agree that 150 year+ copyrights are anything but robbery.
The items being infringed on are not 150 years old. They are recent works that would have fallen under the original 14 year copyright terms (or 28 if renewed). Yes, the copyright extensions have become ridiculous. No, that's not what the 4chan basement dwellers are fighting about.
They believe in small scale evolution (the electricity), but they don't believe in large scale evolution where a single-cell organism has evolved into all the species that you see today. At least, not based on purely random mutation. It's kind of hard to repeat that in the lab.
It seems like you're stuck in the past if you can't find a modern (by today's standards) game with good gameplay and a good story. Not that every game today or even most will be a standout, but how could they? You can't compare a whole generation of games to the stand-outs of the past.
What I stated was that I think private copying should be legal under any circumstances...that does not include commercial distribution or the creation of derivative works, which are the keys to the GPL.
What does "private copying" mean when the software is made publicly available as torrents or on download servers? Also, the GPL says nothing about commercial distribution.
What's with all the crap hitting the front page that should be on Idle? We've gotten stories about creative art in Minecraft, Asteriods on web pages, and now this. Slow news the past couple of days?
I don't think it's so black and white. If he didn't care about the plight of the common citizen, why extend unemployment benefits? Why push for health care? If he loved big corporations so much, why did he try to publicly humiliate the Supreme Court justices for their ruling on corporate free speech? Whether Afghanistan is an unwinnable war or not is a matter of debate -- Iraq looked hopeless before the surge.
As for wiretapping, I won't defend him. This is just the Clipper Chip from the Clinton administration all over again. I wonder if any President ever pulled back from more invasive law enforcement.
It would be like them trademarking "Apple Computers" and then preventing anyone else using the word "computer" in their product name, despite the fact that the word was in common usage for many years before their trademark.
Or like Microsoft trademarking Windows, when the window concept was a generic term in the computer industry.
I agree that Obama's plan for Iraq was essentially the same as McCain's and Bush's. He did at least put a timeline on it with some wiggle room.
Of course I can't say with certainty that don't ask, don't tell will be repealed soon, but I think the issue is getting to be an embarrassment for Republicans as they try to sway independents and moderates. Obama at least pushed the issue and got the ball rolling. McCain would not have done that.
I have this aversion to bullshit and feel the need to speak out against it.
Look, all I'm saying is that this video would be a lot better if they took advantage of the medium.
No, all you are doing is making uninformed and whiny complaints, while continuing to move the goalposts after each response.
Whoosh! The point here is that for all the advantages of copying and transmission fidelity with digital, it still gives you a shit experience when things go wrong.
Oh no, there was a minor bug in the player! That must negate all the advantages! Better go back to magnetic tape, because it was so perfect. Back then we had mechanical fast forward and rewind buttons. It was slow, and we liked it! The tape quality would degrade over time, and we liked it! Sometimes the tape would get chewed up. We liked that too! Our VCRs had tracking problems, and we liked it!
The point is that you're a whiny bitch making shallow complaints about a vastly superior format and a well-done educational video.
But he's held the same course in so many OTHER areas that you can stay he's much the same.
For example, we're still in Iraq. We're still in Afghanistan. We're still spending borrowed money like crazy. Gun control hasn't changed, and don't ask don't tell still stands.
Troop levels are down a lot in Iraq. He said in his campaign that he would leave a small force in. He said in his campaign that he would focus on Afghanistan. Borrowed money -- yup, you got him there. It was supposed to be "pay as you go". I don't know about gun control, as I haven't paid attention to it, but I'd be just as happy to leave the status quo. Don't ask, don't tell is on its last legs, something that would not have occurred under McCain.
That civil rights were eroded beyond anyone's wildest imagination in the anti-terrst frenzy after 9/11.
Wildest imagination? A mass round-up of Arabs/Muslims and exporting them from the country. No, not a small number of people with terrorists ties. I'm talking Japanese-size round-up of American citizens, as was done in World War II, but exporting instead.
You really don't have any sense of history to be making claims like above.
It's really no different from China in terms of how government acts.
Except that you are talking about an imagined tomorrow by a guy who makes his living on conspiracy theories. Whereas today I can read about Kent State, listen to a protest song about it, visit tons of sites about 9/11 conspiracy theories, etc. In China they face Orwellian censorship. You can't even look up a historical protest that happened over 20 years ago. So um, yeah, the "same" in the mind of a conspiracy nut who takes Alex Jones as gospel.
The original complaint was about a lack of "graphs, equations, and animations". Only one of those is not static. The whiteboard illustrations that you are now dismissing are part of the "show" and tell, equivalent to graphs and equations. There were plenty of audio demonstrations (that's not static). There were also some video demonstrations. In sum, if you are the original Anonymous Coward, you are changing your tune and full of shit.
What I found more amusing is that the presenter ("Monty" Montgomery) mentions at one point how digital media can be copied, stored, manipulated, and transmitted with no loss of quality compared to analog. Then I skipped around the video a little bit and it fell out of sync, and I noted numerous dropouts and freezes during playback (thanks, Java!).
Try copying a single analog video from person to person, in analog. Compare the original with the 6th copy. Now do the same thing with digital. Try sending out your analog copy over the Internet, in analog.
The digital revolution is not all it was cracked up to be.
The guy who was hit by the tank chose to stand in front of it. The students who were shot were unarmed protesters and bystanders.
Tank Man was not run over. He stopped a column of tanks. The soldier in that tank did not want to run over a civilian in cold blood.
The difference between China and the United States is that in China you can't search for Tiananmen Square and find out about the 1989 protest. You won't find a popular song about it. The Kent State shootings are an acknowledged black mark in United States history.
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No, it's just a sensible reaction to a broken law to balance out all the times when it wasn't broken.
People have always been infringing on copyright. It's just a rationalization to claim that it is now being done because of an unbalanced law.
Not when the work is priced such that there is no significant net value to the public, just the creators and middlemen/parasites.
Easily refuted by people who actually pay. This is just more rationalization to take what you want for free. If it's so bad, don't illegally copy it.
No, he said refuse to obey unethical laws. Nothing to do with collapsing the system.
He said "the only hope for change is in forcing a collapse of the system". If nobody bought into copyrighted works, it would be a moot law. It would all be creative commons or open source.
If the law is going to be broken, why follow an arbitrary restriction?
To prove that the problem is the stated one. Otherwise it's just an excuse to get what you want.
Perpetual extension of copyright essentially eliminates the public's gain in that social contract.
Not completely. The public still gains from the works that are produced with the expectation of copyright.
In fact, the only ethical course of action at this point is to refuse to obey the law.
You could refuse to buy or support any copyrighted work and put your support behind works with open source licenses. It would have the same effect of collapsing the system.
I've never heard of it either, but obviously it's easy to search for. It's from 2009:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1151911/
It's right in the summary:
"The US law firm of Dunlap, Grubb, & Weaver, otherwise known as the US Copyright Group, filed suit at the end of August against another 2,177 individuals for allegedly downloading and sharing the slasher film Cornered! (In total the USCG has now filed suit against over 16,200 individuals.) In retaliation, Operation Payback, the Anonymous-led project responsible for DDoSing websites of the RIAA and MPAA, targeted the US Copyright Group's website with a DDoS, temporarily bringing it down for a few hours."
Clearly you're a product of public schooling.
But the laws have been hopelessly perverted by the multinationals against the wishes of the people as I doubt very seriously you could even find 5% that would agree that 150 year+ copyrights are anything but robbery.
The items being infringed on are not 150 years old. They are recent works that would have fallen under the original 14 year copyright terms (or 28 if renewed). Yes, the copyright extensions have become ridiculous. No, that's not what the 4chan basement dwellers are fighting about.
They believe in small scale evolution (the electricity), but they don't believe in large scale evolution where a single-cell organism has evolved into all the species that you see today. At least, not based on purely random mutation. It's kind of hard to repeat that in the lab.
Any good php hacker should be able to whip this up in about an hour. I'd do it, but I've got work to do.
I'm sure you'll spend an hour after work then. Thanks!
It seems like you're stuck in the past if you can't find a modern (by today's standards) game with good gameplay and a good story. Not that every game today or even most will be a standout, but how could they? You can't compare a whole generation of games to the stand-outs of the past.
You guys are all suffering from Old Man Syndrome.
What I stated was that I think private copying should be legal under any circumstances...that does not include commercial distribution or the creation of derivative works, which are the keys to the GPL.
What does "private copying" mean when the software is made publicly available as torrents or on download servers? Also, the GPL says nothing about commercial distribution.
What's with all the crap hitting the front page that should be on Idle? We've gotten stories about creative art in Minecraft, Asteriods on web pages, and now this. Slow news the past couple of days?
All you did was make uninformed and whiny complaints, while continuing to move the goalposts after each response. Sorry to repeat myself.
Personally I'm still trying to get what the big deal is
I was the same, but then I figured out it was the same crowd that gets excited about Legos. I don't get that either, but to each their own.
I don't think it's so black and white. If he didn't care about the plight of the common citizen, why extend unemployment benefits? Why push for health care? If he loved big corporations so much, why did he try to publicly humiliate the Supreme Court justices for their ruling on corporate free speech? Whether Afghanistan is an unwinnable war or not is a matter of debate -- Iraq looked hopeless before the surge.
As for wiretapping, I won't defend him. This is just the Clipper Chip from the Clinton administration all over again. I wonder if any President ever pulled back from more invasive law enforcement.
It would be like them trademarking "Apple Computers" and then preventing anyone else using the word "computer" in their product name, despite the fact that the word was in common usage for many years before their trademark.
Or like Microsoft trademarking Windows, when the window concept was a generic term in the computer industry.
I agree that Obama's plan for Iraq was essentially the same as McCain's and Bush's. He did at least put a timeline on it with some wiggle room.
Of course I can't say with certainty that don't ask, don't tell will be repealed soon, but I think the issue is getting to be an embarrassment for Republicans as they try to sway independents and moderates. Obama at least pushed the issue and got the ball rolling. McCain would not have done that.
What the fuck is your problem, dude?
I have this aversion to bullshit and feel the need to speak out against it.
Look, all I'm saying is that this video would be a lot better if they took advantage of the medium.
No, all you are doing is making uninformed and whiny complaints, while continuing to move the goalposts after each response.
Whoosh! The point here is that for all the advantages of copying and transmission fidelity with digital, it still gives you a shit experience when things go wrong.
Oh no, there was a minor bug in the player! That must negate all the advantages! Better go back to magnetic tape, because it was so perfect. Back then we had mechanical fast forward and rewind buttons. It was slow, and we liked it! The tape quality would degrade over time, and we liked it! Sometimes the tape would get chewed up. We liked that too! Our VCRs had tracking problems, and we liked it!
The point is that you're a whiny bitch making shallow complaints about a vastly superior format and a well-done educational video.
But he's held the same course in so many OTHER areas that you can stay he's much the same.
For example, we're still in Iraq. We're still in Afghanistan. We're still spending borrowed money like crazy. Gun control hasn't changed, and don't ask don't tell still stands.
Troop levels are down a lot in Iraq. He said in his campaign that he would leave a small force in. He said in his campaign that he would focus on Afghanistan. Borrowed money -- yup, you got him there. It was supposed to be "pay as you go". I don't know about gun control, as I haven't paid attention to it, but I'd be just as happy to leave the status quo. Don't ask, don't tell is on its last legs, something that would not have occurred under McCain.
That civil rights were eroded beyond anyone's wildest imagination in the anti-terrst frenzy after 9/11.
Wildest imagination? A mass round-up of Arabs/Muslims and exporting them from the country. No, not a small number of people with terrorists ties. I'm talking Japanese-size round-up of American citizens, as was done in World War II, but exporting instead.
You really don't have any sense of history to be making claims like above.
The USA will ban Alex Jones soon.
Alex Jones makes money from fools like you.
It's really no different from China in terms of how government acts.
Except that you are talking about an imagined tomorrow by a guy who makes his living on conspiracy theories. Whereas today I can read about Kent State, listen to a protest song about it, visit tons of sites about 9/11 conspiracy theories, etc. In China they face Orwellian censorship. You can't even look up a historical protest that happened over 20 years ago. So um, yeah, the "same" in the mind of a conspiracy nut who takes Alex Jones as gospel.
Almost every illustration is static.
The original complaint was about a lack of "graphs, equations, and animations". Only one of those is not static. The whiteboard illustrations that you are now dismissing are part of the "show" and tell, equivalent to graphs and equations. There were plenty of audio demonstrations (that's not static). There were also some video demonstrations. In sum, if you are the original Anonymous Coward, you are changing your tune and full of shit.
What I found more amusing is that the presenter ("Monty" Montgomery) mentions at one point how digital media can be copied, stored, manipulated, and transmitted with no loss of quality compared to analog. Then I skipped around the video a little bit and it fell out of sync, and I noted numerous dropouts and freezes during playback (thanks, Java!).
Try copying a single analog video from person to person, in analog. Compare the original with the 6th copy. Now do the same thing with digital. Try sending out your analog copy over the Internet, in analog.
The digital revolution is not all it was cracked up to be.
Whiners aren't all they are cracked up to be.
The guy who was hit by the tank chose to stand in front of it. The students who were shot were unarmed protesters and bystanders.
Tank Man was not run over. He stopped a column of tanks. The soldier in that tank did not want to run over a civilian in cold blood.
The difference between China and the United States is that in China you can't search for Tiananmen Square and find out about the 1989 protest. You won't find a popular song about it. The Kent State shootings are an acknowledged black mark in United States history.
This post is a carbon copy post of dozens of similar ones, I'm not sure what's so insightful about this point of view any more.
Then it should be modded informative. It's a valid concern for a significant number of people.
You've got to be kidding me. The presentation was full of visual and audio demonstrations. I'm guessing you didn't even watch the video.
A mouse can learn a maze.