Other than 'its chilly down here' comments, I have to say I think this is record companies trying to pose like they actually care about the consumer, while still loving the RIAA henchmen they employ. I don't buy it for a second.
I am a good enough friend to not force my OS beliefs upon my friends. The/. community feels decidedly that it is that way for religion- I think it should be for all things.
Thus, if a friend asks me what video card to get, I ask him what OS he uses and what he wants to do with it. Based on that, I advise.
Plus, neither NV nor ATI release their code for anything that could be called a modern card. Assuming my friend likes playing a game made in the past three years (and for some odd reason is not fully content with Wesnoth and UT2k3?) then I could not advise him to buy a card with an open driver, since Intel doesn't cut it and old Radeons may not have enough juice.
Thanks Tom, for not even reading my post to reply to it. As a Linux user, I realize that 5% (at best) is probably not a large enough market share to entice a manufacturer to invest money into driver development. Free driver development, on the other hand, may lead to an increase of devices that are fully supported in linux - a win for the entire community, and the erosion on sticking points for those who don't want 'to become a mechanic just so they can drive the car'.
True enough. I think desktop hardware is going to be key - if Linux is going to become a viable alternative for the girlfriend, then the hardware has to 'just work'. Offering free driver dev is a big step in the right direction. Once we have a 'just works' solution that is free (as in beer), I think we will see a larger pool of converts. Also, if this program takes off, companies seeing the benefits of including the Linux community may initiate projects for to be release products, allowing Linux to stay more up to date with cutting edge software - another big win.
As far as printers go, HP has a driver out now thats pretty slick (HPLIP). It doesn't do everything, but it does most of the personal printers. (Not to mention they make damn good printers).
I would disagree. Linux drivers are not made since they do not generate profit, largely due to the small user base verses the cost of developing the driver. If there is but a modest cost of a dev answering a few questions, it may be worth their while if it means shipping another 200 widgets.
Because currently, you can distribute a Linux distro to the small percentage of people interested in running linux. You can give away OO.o to almost anyone with a computer, and they can use it. Plus, there are many students in college that must use windows for one reason or another, or are scared to switch. This will be an introduction for the time being with maybe a conversion down the line.
Do you have any reason for which to qualify that statement? It seems pretty hard to make giving something away for free a scam, unless they decide to bundle something terrible with it.
No. If I said we have already lost lives, so we should stay the course, that is sunk cost fallacy. I said I think what we are doing is right (as do the men I know who are over there), so the sunk (unrecoverable) cost is high, but not in error. Nor is our continued presence there.
I hope, with all my heart, that my friends come home. I said in the previous post that I don't think we should be at this point already, but we are here. Although I think the President is a day late and a dollar short, I do agree that the Iraqi government is unable to keep any semblance of order right now. We have been too lenient on them, letting them rely on our support for their protection. We must give them a hard limit to how far our generosity will go.
That said, those of my friends who have died in Iraq did not do so in vain. My friends who died thought what they were doing was right, and my friends who are still there think the same. I have no problems ousting Hussein from power, it should have been done long ago. Leaving right now, I believe, will make Iraq much more of a bloodbath than it already is. Surely, there have been many mistakes, but there is no reason to just add another one to it.
What of people rioting outside of an embassy? That would be a good use for this weapon.
Further, if terrorists are disbursed among civilians, you can use this weapon to stop everyone, grab the assholes with the AKs, and everyone else lives. Minimal collateral damage.
Also convenient when assaulting a critical location with entrenched enemies that you don't want to blow up (power plant, oil refinery, etc). You can incapacitate the bad guys without blowing the building up - big win for all of the innocents that rely on the building.
You are right- We should let the sectarian violence rage completely unabated.
I am not saying we should have gone there in the first place (although I do think Hussein got his right), but the fact remains that we are there now. Leaving would only be worsening things. Sure I would love to have the friends I have serving over there back home and safe, but I would not have them come home now and just let Iraq go to shit.
Maybe you should go back to selling mattresses.
Actually, I saw a special on this (on either MoJo or INHD) about a month ago. Enlists are encouraged to play the game, quite a bit. The idea is to have current enlists interacting with the general population, promoting the benefits of Army life [don't read politics into that statement, I am representing the Army's desires...]. According to the show, it has been quite effective for them.
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Plus, I hope the invading nation uses a laptop somewhat more powerful than the OLPC.
I actually agree with you, but I wanted to offer one counter point to:
"If Gnome is so terrible, why wouldn't anyone switch to something else?"
It would be:
If Windows is so terrible, why wouldn't anyone switch to something else?
Just a thought...
Yeah, but marketing class taught me that although perception may not be reality, it is good enough to move product.
Nay, for that was I. Now lets drink deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk!
Other than 'its chilly down here' comments, I have to say I think this is record companies trying to pose like they actually care about the consumer, while still loving the RIAA henchmen they employ. I don't buy it for a second.
I am a good enough friend to not force my OS beliefs upon my friends. The /. community feels decidedly that it is that way for religion- I think it should be for all things.
Thus, if a friend asks me what video card to get, I ask him what OS he uses and what he wants to do with it. Based on that, I advise.
Plus, neither NV nor ATI release their code for anything that could be called a modern card. Assuming my friend likes playing a game made in the past three years (and for some odd reason is not fully content with Wesnoth and UT2k3?) then I could not advise him to buy a card with an open driver, since Intel doesn't cut it and old Radeons may not have enough juice.
In principal, I agree, but I have a hard time saying that 5% of the market is going to make a company disappear.
TFM? I didn't get a manual...
Hey nah- we don't approve of yer Micro-soft 'round he-uh!
Oh what I would pay for a big cluebat...
Next time, please RTF post.
Use HPLIP for just about any HP printer you have on your desk...
True enough. I think desktop hardware is going to be key - if Linux is going to become a viable alternative for the girlfriend, then the hardware has to 'just work'. Offering free driver dev is a big step in the right direction. Once we have a 'just works' solution that is free (as in beer), I think we will see a larger pool of converts. Also, if this program takes off, companies seeing the benefits of including the Linux community may initiate projects for to be release products, allowing Linux to stay more up to date with cutting edge software - another big win.
Then shame on you for wasting a partition on windows...
http://hplip.sourceforge.net/
I would disagree. Linux drivers are not made since they do not generate profit, largely due to the small user base verses the cost of developing the driver. If there is but a modest cost of a dev answering a few questions, it may be worth their while if it means shipping another 200 widgets.
Because currently, you can distribute a Linux distro to the small percentage of people interested in running linux. You can give away OO.o to almost anyone with a computer, and they can use it. Plus, there are many students in college that must use windows for one reason or another, or are scared to switch. This will be an introduction for the time being with maybe a conversion down the line.
Do you have any reason for which to qualify that statement? It seems pretty hard to make giving something away for free a scam, unless they decide to bundle something terrible with it.
So this is the fight you were really picking.
No. If I said we have already lost lives, so we should stay the course, that is sunk cost fallacy. I said I think what we are doing is right (as do the men I know who are over there), so the sunk (unrecoverable) cost is high, but not in error. Nor is our continued presence there.
I hope, with all my heart, that my friends come home. I said in the previous post that I don't think we should be at this point already, but we are here. Although I think the President is a day late and a dollar short, I do agree that the Iraqi government is unable to keep any semblance of order right now. We have been too lenient on them, letting them rely on our support for their protection. We must give them a hard limit to how far our generosity will go.
That said, those of my friends who have died in Iraq did not do so in vain. My friends who died thought what they were doing was right, and my friends who are still there think the same. I have no problems ousting Hussein from power, it should have been done long ago. Leaving right now, I believe, will make Iraq much more of a bloodbath than it already is. Surely, there have been many mistakes, but there is no reason to just add another one to it.
What of people rioting outside of an embassy? That would be a good use for this weapon.
Further, if terrorists are disbursed among civilians, you can use this weapon to stop everyone, grab the assholes with the AKs, and everyone else lives. Minimal collateral damage.
Also convenient when assaulting a critical location with entrenched enemies that you don't want to blow up (power plant, oil refinery, etc). You can incapacitate the bad guys without blowing the building up - big win for all of the innocents that rely on the building.
You are right- We should let the sectarian violence rage completely unabated. I am not saying we should have gone there in the first place (although I do think Hussein got his right), but the fact remains that we are there now. Leaving would only be worsening things. Sure I would love to have the friends I have serving over there back home and safe, but I would not have them come home now and just let Iraq go to shit. Maybe you should go back to selling mattresses.
Incorrect. *Every* man masturbates.
Actually, I saw a special on this (on either MoJo or INHD) about a month ago. Enlists are encouraged to play the game, quite a bit. The idea is to have current enlists interacting with the general population, promoting the benefits of Army life [don't read politics into that statement, I am representing the Army's desires...]. According to the show, it has been quite effective for them.