Don't think I'm defending Microsoft here because I am old enough to remember Microsoft at its worst and still have the deep seated hatred of Gates and Balmer era MS. Hell, anti-trust BS aside I still hate them for what they did to my MechWarrior franchise alone! However, under the new leadership that seems to be taking the company towards an era of Glasnost and Perestroika, the hatred is given pause as I wait for the next dick move that may never come. At the very least, Microsoft has moved into a position that is no more or less "evil" than Google (yes, do no evil no longer applies here) or Apple. Given this, I wonder how many people here truly rationally hate MS anymore as opposed to hatred through nostalgia (like me) or hatred through "it's the way we do things around here" syndrome. As a developer that uses MS products and support in his profession, and develops Linux, Android, and Arduino apps as a hobby, I still prefer the current open source way of doing things over the MS way... but as far as the hatred? It cannot be said yet that Microsoft is the same company it was in the Balmer days. They at least *look* like they're moving towards a path that looks similar to the one Sun Microsystems was beating through.
Are they looking to Linux as the long term (down the road) bailout?
The droughts in Arizona and fires in California are just quirks of nature. The failing orange crops of Florida are imaginary. Last year was the Sabattical one for crops. You know, every seventh year, plants take off producing for the season
Is that parody or is that news? I cannot believe that one-sided, war-mongering, short-sighted propaganda piece is called 'News'. It packs more lies, ridicule, non sequiturs, and manipulation into three minutes than I've even seen before. Are people really expected watch that and then form their own opinions? If that is how Americans get their news, it explains so much about American ignorance, xenophobia, and thirst for war.
Aren't you understating what the Americans receive from Fox, CBS, NBC, etc? Americans are for the most part, kept ignorant about whats happening outside of the football or baseball field.
I don't have a stand on DST or Standard time. I stand on the floor. I have a stand for my pictures, etc. I would like to have one timezone for all of North America. 8am everywhere. Use the existing Central time as the reference. I prefer to have Darkness in the AM and a later sundown.
Kids never play for an hour or two before school, but do so after school. So, for their safety and to extend outdoor playing time in daylight, lets keep DST all year round.
I take my watch off at the end of the day. I put it on in the morning. How big a difference is it to set it "on a charger on my nightstand", instead of just "on my nightstand?"
Much ado about nothing.
Do you bring the charger with you when you travel or are away for one night?
Just look at the loving way in which the residents of "free" public housing maintain their residences out of gratitude to the all-caring government.
Truly, public housing solved poverty to exactly the same degree that free broadband will "solve" the digital divide. I'm sure that the upstanding U.S. citizens who live in public housing will take it upon themselves to learn how to code and contribute Open Source software to the world in complete gratitude for this benevolent entitlement.
My view is that by giving free internet, people will self-educate. Nothing better, don't you think. And some will find better jobs, because they will see opportunities.
Went the Android route and am very happy. I use a basic smartphone --one game that I chose, calculator, sms, telephone, email, camera, internet browsing and hotspot
It fits into my shirt pocket. I don't expect it to break if I accidentally sit on it or drop it.
What I can't figure out is how incompetent the car industry's software engineers must be. The implication of this is that it's possible to clone a key based only on the signal it gives off. The implication of that is that they're sending out a static password.
I mean, why are these keys not just broadcasting an "I'm here" signal (possibly with a unique id), and then doing some challenge/response authentication ala SRP that can't have the key reverse engineered from the transmissions to actually perform the unlock.
How did the car companies think they could get away with such crappy security?
My Chamberlain garage door opener uses a rolling security code as an access code. This is to protect hackers from recording the code and reusing it. The same is required for vehicles. The access code has to randomly change with every use, and be known only to the legitimate keys.
I never leave the garage remote anywhere in site. Especially not in the car parked in the driveway.
If garage door openers can be secure, so should car access systems.
And as passive income that billion a year is taxed at a 15% rate after all of his other deductions and loopholes. Whether or not you think a $70 mil writeoff is insignificant to a hundred billionaire, it's just this kind of insult to injury loophole (available only to the hyper rich) that makes a travesty of the notion that we're all in this together. But, of course, we're not - and apparently CrimsonAvenger is fine with that...
I guess Balmer wants to line his coffin with all those shareholder certificates. Somebody tell him to insist to have the certificates waterproofed
Our local Sushi and Chinese restaurants and even the Fast Food ones are putting a tablet at the table, with the menu. We click on the item, indicate the quantity, and press the complete button. Thats it. Waiter does not have to walk back and forth, with paper written order to the chefs. And the chefs see merged quantities. (eg, 3 orders for xyz) result in his putting 3 quantities on the stove in one batch, and then separating out the quantities after heating/cooking.
Its faster, and the pictures of the food are great. One gets an idea of the serving and the quantity.
Its also great for billing. We are only billed for what we ordered. Tips are not calculated, except if the table has a party of 6.
1. That will be delegated to the ISPs. The plan is, that the ISPs should pay these taxes from their profits, and are expected NOT to increase the internet subscription fees, however, they will anyhow. 2. It is a tax on everything. not just streaming. 3. They won't leave anything untaxed.
Now consumers are becoming aware that there's a massive counterfeiting problem and can be better educated to ask their vendors "Hey, is my device legit?" I certainly had no idea that this was going on.
What happens when you buy the product at BestBuy or other BigBox store.
There are still bills I pay with paper. (Some companies still charge for the "privilege" of paying online, which pisses me off even though the amount doesn't matter.)
I occasionally deposit checks via mail. Even if I trusted my phone enough to put banking software on it (which would be a silly thing to do), that only works for some kinds of checks.
Some companies respond to customer complaints via paper mail much better than they do via the net.
Sometimes I send checks to family members who aren't technologically sophisticated enough for there to be another way.
Maybe all of those reasons will disappear eventually, but I doubt that will be in my lifetime. It's also worth remembering that you can still send some mail anonymously - frankly, I'm surprised you still can, as there's nothing a totalitarian state hates more than anonymous communication.
For Canadians, cheques by residents are so passé. Businesses, of course, use cheques as proof of payment.
If you are doing consumer banking and If you do not take a special type of bank account, you are entitled to 3 cheques per month, and then whamo, around $7.00ea for the excess. So, we consumers have automated payment from accounts, or even online bill-payment options.
So, keep a balance to cover the cheques, earn no interest, and pay to make payments.
Linux could work for the average user, at the end of the day there is no technical reason why not. After all Linux(in the form of android), dominates on the cell phone market, where the user base demands greater user friendlyness, has less patience, and wants even more bells and whistles, and is far less compitent with a computer. Linux has been shown to work marvelously with light meters, accellerometers, USB, touch screens(multi-touch even).
The big issue is how consumers by technology. They don't care about specs really, they don't care about merit. They care about branding and imagine. They want their Apple(tm), search with google(tm). Advertising and public relations gurus over the last few decades have build reality distortion bubbles, where people actively identify with brand names. GNU/Linux has no such brand name. They really don't care about "just works". Face it, windows does *not just work*, but people do whatever it takes, because they think windows is what they are supposed to be using. Microsoft presents the image of normalicy and conformity that most people identify with.
Apple on the other hand, presents an elitest artisan, fine craftsman, and intellectually supperior image, that marks the owner as part of an elite group.
Linux cleans up serverside, because it rode the wave of start up culture of the 1990s. If you had a great idea for a new website, but didn't have much capital, you could run a proffesional website with Linux, Apache, Mysql, and PHP out of an old desktop for a fraction of the cost of what constituted a proffesional server, of the day
As these companies grew, they continuted to use linux, and helped it transform into a proffesional class OS, that couldn't help but take notice.
Linux will eventually take over the desktop, and the reason is because microsoft has no real friends, and they have an ever growing list of enemies. Many of those pimpleface teenage nerds they stepped on back in the 1990s are now grown developers and sys admins. Their day dreams are now multi-million dollar products. Linux has a lot of corporate backers, many of which are household names, and some of the largest most powerful corporations in the world.
Whats eventually going to happen is that MS is going to piss off another giant like Google or Samsung to the point they want blood. You'll see a few large companies pour money, time, resouces, advertising into a distro with enough MS haters to accept them, and then use a Free as in beer product into the desktop market, to crush microsoft to prevent them from competing in other markets, by destroying their cash cow.
There will not be a year of the desktop. It will be a decade of pure hell, and microsoft is going to fight tooth and nail, and use every dirty trick in the book to keep the desktop market. They will eventually loose, because the nature of FOSS allows many companies to quietly pool resources behind a single banner, especially a not-for-profit, and allows more to join later without any real effort or diplomacy. Eventually it will be taken from them, and from that point its another 10 years before they go out of business.
The reason why MS will lose the desktop is closed source and closed mentality. Our universities want to teach operating systems, their use, design, and tweaking. In addition, to do so at zero cost for software. This is where Linux came in. We have students who have started in College/University with LFS (Linux from Scratch). They get to study internals, networking, security, end-user computing, servers and more. Included of course are the language courses in C, C++, Python, Perl, Bash scripting, etc. etc. And the students had the software and course material on their laptops.
MS had restrictions on what information was available.
There's no brain patterns involved at all, it's a simple delusion rooted in statistical bias. You only remember the good times when you won, and you erase the bad times when you lost. So you think the casino is a money tree. And thus casinos pay their light bill. That's also why people play Powerball, they only hear stories about the people who hit the jackpot, never stories about not hitting it.
I could never be a compulsive gambler, I like active sex too much. Some people call me a dirty old man.
WOW! Finally, I've 'met' one. According to the sales states there was someone who bought a Windows Phone but I didn't expect to actually make contact with you. Hey, how's it working out?
Have one, and I also have access to an Android. For my needs, long battery life was the only criteria. In the end, I stick to the desktop for Slashdot, and mainly use the W phone for email, skype and some occasional browsing.
Technology is leaping forward by the second. The availability of very high-speed internet means that thousands of small to medium business Linux systems will be transferred to the cloud. Cloud systems will mean a huge reduction in the need for in-shop linux systems. It means, essentially, that businesses will buy computing services, will give up the systems department and that expensive "Air Conditioned" computer room, and support staff.
This is Autumn 2014, and this transition is happening now. Is this season the beginning of the autumn decline of independently installed Linux business computer systems? Have you the guts and funding to begin a cloud service or to transition to a job in a cloud service?
Will you care about making a profit, or of the differences between Systemd and the existing interface?
This is an opportunity to convert a building, with cafeteria, gymn, etc, into a building housing software development people. Remove the bars, remove the toilets and restructure the builiding a bit, and there you are. Perhaps the prisons that are not sellable as a prison can be sold for land value.
Of course government can read my e-mail. All they have to be is waterboard me. Or install enough camera in public places to capture my unlock pattern. The question is what we allow the government to do, and in democracy we deserve what we get. No amount of encryption is going to solve this problem. We should have a direct popular vote for a commission of constitutional enforcement and then if majority of them rule that some secret agency is in violation, they will be able to disclose it legally.
After a mental debate about the pros and cons of NSA surveillance, I have reached some conclusions. With total secured data and transmissions, businesses have the confidence that what is private to them remains so. With total secured data and transmissions, criminals have the confidence that what is private to them remains so. With total secured data and transmissions, NSA have the confidence that what is private to them remains so. With total secured data and transmissions, terrorists have the confidence that what is private to them remains so. So what? As a citizen of a multi-cultural democratic country, can I obtain all my information about criminals and terrorists only by infiltrating their organizations? Can the NSA, in proactive mode, be able to do so before an illegal act occurs, or only after the bodies are buried. When do you want them to do the searching?
A positive point to consider: If the NSA surveys the transmissions with sophisticated search engines, looking for illegal activities, and from the algorithms within the search engines, obtain a list of messages and meta data about the sender/recipient, can they protect us better?
A negative point to ponder. Can the NSA search engine software be audited by some authority to insure that the searches are against legitimate use are not done, what would be your stance?
I don't feel threatened by NSA and it's probing, as all my uses of email, web browsing, encryption, and purchasing of crap through the internet is for legal purposes.
So, draw your conclusions from my ponderings. Where do my thoughts lie?
It's true that they kill birds. But so do cars and skyscrapers. And I'd wager that coal - between the waste disposal, emitted mercury, and mining - kills birds, too.
Wind power gives birds a fighting chance. Solar, with the reflector technology that concentrates a beam of sunshine against a target boiler, is fatal if a bird flies through the path.
Which is likely to happen more often?
The saying from some people is "I have a lifetime supply of barbque fowl".
Slashdot Mirror
Don't think I'm defending Microsoft here because I am old enough to remember Microsoft at its worst and still have the deep seated hatred of Gates and Balmer era MS. Hell, anti-trust BS aside I still hate them for what they did to my MechWarrior franchise alone! However, under the new leadership that seems to be taking the company towards an era of Glasnost and Perestroika, the hatred is given pause as I wait for the next dick move that may never come. At the very least, Microsoft has moved into a position that is no more or less "evil" than Google (yes, do no evil no longer applies here) or Apple. Given this, I wonder how many people here truly rationally hate MS anymore as opposed to hatred through nostalgia (like me) or hatred through "it's the way we do things around here" syndrome. As a developer that uses MS products and support in his profession, and develops Linux, Android, and Arduino apps as a hobby, I still prefer the current open source way of doing things over the MS way... but as far as the hatred? It cannot be said yet that Microsoft is the same company it was in the Balmer days. They at least *look* like they're moving towards a path that looks similar to the one Sun Microsystems was beating through.
Are they looking to Linux as the long term (down the road) bailout?
The droughts in Arizona and fires in California are just quirks of nature. The failing orange crops of Florida are imaginary. Last year was the Sabattical one for crops. You know, every seventh year, plants take off producing for the season
Why are we spending so much money on satellites? We could have bought a couple Cold War fighter jets that will never be used and that explode on liftoff!
Is that parody or is that news? I cannot believe that one-sided, war-mongering, short-sighted propaganda piece is called 'News'. It packs more lies, ridicule, non sequiturs, and manipulation into three minutes than I've even seen before. Are people really expected watch that and then form their own opinions? If that is how Americans get their news, it explains so much about American ignorance, xenophobia, and thirst for war.
Aren't you understating what the Americans receive from Fox, CBS, NBC, etc? Americans are for the most part, kept ignorant about whats happening outside of the football or baseball field.
I want my home to be stupid, to not have a telescreen, and to not track me or sell my habits to third parties. ;)
I want my mortgage paid.
If the watches are stopped, they are each right twice a day.
I don't have a stand on DST or Standard time. I stand on the floor. I have a stand for my pictures, etc.
I would like to have one timezone for all of North America. 8am everywhere. Use the existing Central time as the reference.
I prefer to have Darkness in the AM and a later sundown.
Kids never play for an hour or two before school, but do so after school. So, for their safety and to extend outdoor playing time in daylight, lets keep DST all year round.
I take my watch off at the end of the day. I put it on in the morning. How big a difference is it to set it "on a charger on my nightstand", instead of just "on my nightstand?"
Much ado about nothing.
Do you bring the charger with you when you travel or are away for one night?
Just look at the loving way in which the residents of "free" public housing maintain their residences out of gratitude to the all-caring government.
Truly, public housing solved poverty to exactly the same degree that free broadband will "solve" the digital divide. I'm sure that the upstanding U.S. citizens who live in public housing will take it upon themselves to learn how to code and contribute Open Source software to the world in complete gratitude for this benevolent entitlement.
My view is that by giving free internet, people will self-educate. Nothing better, don't you think.
And some will find better jobs, because they will see opportunities.
Does his edict mean that science can again be taught in schools in the south?
Wow.
Went the Android route and am very happy. I use a basic smartphone --one game that I chose, calculator, sms, telephone, email, camera, internet browsing and hotspot
It fits into my shirt pocket. I don't expect it to break if I accidentally sit on it or drop it.
What I can't figure out is how incompetent the car industry's software engineers must be. The implication of this is that it's possible to clone a key based only on the signal it gives off. The implication of that is that they're sending out a static password.
I mean, why are these keys not just broadcasting an "I'm here" signal (possibly with a unique id), and then doing some challenge/response authentication ala SRP that can't have the key reverse engineered from the transmissions to actually perform the unlock.
How did the car companies think they could get away with such crappy security?
My Chamberlain garage door opener uses a rolling security code as an access code. This is to protect hackers from recording the code and reusing it.
The same is required for vehicles. The access code has to randomly change with every use, and be known only to the legitimate keys.
I never leave the garage remote anywhere in site. Especially not in the car parked in the driveway.
If garage door openers can be secure, so should car access systems.
And as passive income that billion a year is taxed at a 15% rate after all of his other deductions and loopholes. Whether or not you think a $70 mil writeoff is insignificant to a hundred billionaire, it's just this kind of insult to injury loophole (available only to the hyper rich) that makes a travesty of the notion that we're all in this together. But, of course, we're not - and apparently CrimsonAvenger is fine with that...
I guess Balmer wants to line his coffin with all those shareholder certificates. Somebody tell him to insist to have the certificates waterproofed
Our local Sushi and Chinese restaurants and even the Fast Food ones are putting a tablet at the table, with the menu. We click on the item, indicate the quantity, and press the complete button. Thats it. Waiter does not have to walk back and forth, with paper written order to the chefs. And the chefs see merged quantities. (eg, 3 orders for xyz) result in his putting 3 quantities on the stove in one batch, and then separating out the quantities after heating/cooking.
Its faster, and the pictures of the food are great. One gets an idea of the serving and the quantity.
Its also great for billing. We are only billed for what we ordered. Tips are not calculated, except if the table has a party of 6.
Hungarian dude here.
1. That will be delegated to the ISPs. The plan is, that the ISPs should pay these taxes from their profits, and are expected NOT to increase the internet subscription fees, however, they will anyhow.
2. It is a tax on everything. not just streaming.
3. They won't leave anything untaxed.
What happens when the ISP is the government?
Now consumers are becoming aware that there's a massive counterfeiting problem and can be better educated to ask their vendors "Hey, is my device legit?" I certainly had no idea that this was going on.
What happens when you buy the product at BestBuy or other BigBox store.
There are still bills I pay with paper. (Some companies still charge for the "privilege" of paying online, which pisses me off even though the amount doesn't matter.)
I occasionally deposit checks via mail. Even if I trusted my phone enough to put banking software on it (which would be a silly thing to do), that only works for some kinds of checks.
Some companies respond to customer complaints via paper mail much better than they do via the net.
Sometimes I send checks to family members who aren't technologically sophisticated enough for there to be another way.
Maybe all of those reasons will disappear eventually, but I doubt that will be in my lifetime. It's also worth remembering that you can still send some mail anonymously - frankly, I'm surprised you still can, as there's nothing a totalitarian state hates more than anonymous communication.
For Canadians, cheques by residents are so passé. Businesses, of course, use cheques as proof of payment.
If you are doing consumer banking and If you do not take a special type of bank account, you are entitled to 3 cheques per month, and then whamo, around $7.00ea for the excess. So, we consumers have automated payment from accounts, or even online bill-payment options.
So, keep a balance to cover the cheques, earn no interest, and pay to make payments.
Linux could work for the average user, at the end of the day there is no technical reason why not. After all Linux(in the form of android), dominates on the cell phone market, where the user base demands greater user friendlyness, has less patience, and wants even more bells and whistles, and is far less compitent with a computer. Linux has been shown to work marvelously with light meters, accellerometers, USB, touch screens(multi-touch even).
The big issue is how consumers by technology. They don't care about specs really, they don't care about merit. They care about branding and imagine. They want their Apple(tm), search with google(tm). Advertising and public relations gurus over the last few decades have build reality distortion bubbles, where people actively identify with brand names. GNU/Linux has no such brand name. They really don't care about "just works". Face it, windows does *not just work*, but people do whatever it takes, because they think windows is what they are supposed to be using. Microsoft presents the image of normalicy and conformity that most people identify with.
Apple on the other hand, presents an elitest artisan, fine craftsman, and intellectually supperior image, that marks the owner as part of an elite group.
Linux cleans up serverside, because it rode the wave of start up culture of the 1990s. If you had a great idea for a new website, but didn't have much capital, you could run a proffesional website with Linux, Apache, Mysql, and PHP out of an old desktop for a fraction of the cost of what constituted a proffesional server, of the day
As these companies grew, they continuted to use linux, and helped it transform into a proffesional class OS, that couldn't help but take notice.
Linux will eventually take over the desktop, and the reason is because microsoft has no real friends, and they have an ever growing list of enemies. Many of those pimpleface teenage nerds they stepped on back in the 1990s are now grown developers and sys admins. Their day dreams are now multi-million dollar products. Linux has a lot of corporate backers, many of which are household names, and some of the largest most powerful corporations in the world.
Whats eventually going to happen is that MS is going to piss off another giant like Google or Samsung to the point they want blood. You'll see a few large companies pour money, time, resouces, advertising into a distro with enough MS haters to accept them, and then use a Free as in beer product into the desktop market, to crush microsoft to prevent them from competing in other markets, by destroying their cash cow.
There will not be a year of the desktop. It will be a decade of pure hell, and microsoft is going to fight tooth and nail, and use every dirty trick in the book to keep the desktop market. They will eventually loose, because the nature of FOSS allows many companies to quietly pool resources behind a single banner, especially a not-for-profit, and allows more to join later without any real effort or diplomacy. Eventually it will be taken from them, and from that point its another 10 years before they go out of business.
The reason why MS will lose the desktop is closed source and closed mentality.
Our universities want to teach operating systems, their use, design, and tweaking. In addition, to do so at zero cost for software. This is where Linux came in.
We have students who have started in College/University with LFS (Linux from Scratch). They get to study internals, networking, security, end-user computing, servers and more. Included of course are the language courses in C, C++, Python, Perl, Bash scripting, etc. etc. And the students had the software and course material on their laptops.
MS had restrictions on what information was available.
There's no brain patterns involved at all, it's a simple delusion rooted in statistical bias. You only remember the good times when you won, and you erase the bad times when you lost. So you think the casino is a money tree. And thus casinos pay their light bill. That's also why people play Powerball, they only hear stories about the people who hit the jackpot, never stories about not hitting it.
I could never be a compulsive gambler, I like active sex too much. Some people call me a dirty old man.
Can they be a little more specific as to what it is that's in the soda that is causing this?
Its the bubbles.
"I'm a Windows Phone user"
WOW! Finally, I've 'met' one. According to the sales states there was someone who bought a Windows Phone but I didn't expect to actually make contact with you. Hey, how's it working out?
Have one, and I also have access to an Android. For my needs, long battery life was the only criteria. In the end, I stick to the desktop for Slashdot, and mainly use the W phone for email, skype and some occasional browsing.
Technology is leaping forward by the second. The availability of very high-speed internet means that thousands of small to medium business Linux systems will be transferred to the cloud. Cloud systems will mean a huge reduction in the need for in-shop linux systems. It means, essentially, that businesses will buy computing services, will give up the systems department and that expensive "Air Conditioned" computer room, and support staff.
This is Autumn 2014, and this transition is happening now. Is this season the beginning of the autumn decline of independently installed Linux business computer systems? Have you the guts and funding to begin a cloud service or to transition to a job in a cloud service?
Will you care about making a profit, or of the differences between Systemd and the existing interface?
This is an opportunity to convert a building, with cafeteria, gymn, etc, into a building housing software development people. Remove the bars, remove the toilets and restructure the builiding a bit, and there you are. Perhaps the prisons that are not sellable as a prison can be sold for land value.
Of course government can read my e-mail. All they have to be is waterboard me. Or install enough camera in public places to capture my unlock pattern. The question is what we allow the government to do, and in democracy we deserve what we get. No amount of encryption is going to solve this problem. We should have a direct popular vote for a commission of constitutional enforcement and then if majority of them rule that some secret agency is in violation, they will be able to disclose it legally.
After a mental debate about the pros and cons of NSA surveillance, I have reached some conclusions.
With total secured data and transmissions, businesses have the confidence that what is private to them remains so.
With total secured data and transmissions, criminals have the confidence that what is private to them remains so.
With total secured data and transmissions, NSA have the confidence that what is private to them remains so.
With total secured data and transmissions, terrorists have the confidence that what is private to them remains so.
So what?
As a citizen of a multi-cultural democratic country, can I obtain all my information about criminals and terrorists only by infiltrating their organizations? Can the NSA, in proactive mode, be able to do so before an illegal act occurs, or only after the bodies are buried. When do you want them to do the searching?
A positive point to consider:
If the NSA surveys the transmissions with sophisticated search engines, looking for illegal activities, and from the algorithms within the search engines, obtain a list of messages and meta data about the sender/recipient, can they protect us better?
A negative point to ponder.
Can the NSA search engine software be audited by some authority to insure that the searches are against legitimate use are not done, what would be your stance?
I don't feel threatened by NSA and it's probing, as all my uses of email, web browsing, encryption, and purchasing of crap through the internet is for legal purposes.
So, draw your conclusions from my ponderings. Where do my thoughts lie?
85 KW*hr in 5 minutes is about a megawatt of power. Even at 10,000 volts, you're talking 100 amps.
The Koch brothers are rubbing their hands in glee. Bye bye Oil, hello Electricity, hello coal.
It's true that they kill birds. But so do cars and skyscrapers. And I'd wager that coal - between the waste disposal, emitted mercury, and mining - kills birds, too.
Wind power gives birds a fighting chance. Solar, with the reflector technology that concentrates a beam of sunshine against a target boiler, is fatal if a bird flies through the path.
Which is likely to happen more often?
The saying from some people is "I have a lifetime supply of barbque fowl".