I am an old fart. I started with cobol in the 60's, and it was a favourite. I could do perform paragraphs as good as the next guy, and I knew my go-tos and computed go-tos. I am more than picture 66 clauses.
That's a matter of genetics, I guess. I spotted my first gray hairs while I was still in college. (Yes, at the "traditional" age to be in college.)
let the gentleman die or tint his hair, and find references from people in the industry he wants to move to. Also, dress according to now, not to the 1980's. Pants, sports jacket, colored shirt, no tie, and reasonable shoes.
You do not want to show anacronism, or someone on the wild side.
You may even offer to work a free week for a evaluation.
Why would the freest country in the world (except, perhaps, Iceland) be against it?
=== Do you want to chase after hundreds of developers around the world, and ask them to patch your code for them(NSA, IRS, etc). or would you want to deal with one enterprise and closed source.
OpenSource is hard to patch without being caught. Open Source is hard to patch, sung to the tune of....
=== Someone wants revenge. Otherwise they will feel cheated in that they were caught with their pants down. Snowdon said what the USA was doing. He did not specify individuals. He did not give IP addresses, he stated clearly that the constitution was being stepped on by certain organizations. Ignore the citizens right to privacy, he does not count. Could the citizen later plead the 5th? He should be able to, as the snooping was just fishing expeditions.
=== Nah, he doesn't hate Cloud Computing. It is his way to test the waters for an eventual Oracle takeover of Microsoft. Ellison thrives on winning, and will, by successive approximations, suddenly be asked to take over all of MS. Just you wait and see.
I read was her rambling blog and wondered about her story. If her blog goes off topic, is the attack too painful to discuss.
She hit him with a coffee mug. --On the head or in the eye?
What do you think. Something happened, but it is not clear to me if it was a date that went too far or something else as claimed. By the way, she has no reason to fabricate this story.
but how do you know they aren't going to harm the US
You need to prove that they're likely going to, which is more or less the same thing they have to do to get a warrant for such matters.
There is no need to be 100% certain of anything, so I'm not sure why you asked that question. The same thing could be said about normal civilians, which would lead to us spying on them to find out if they're actually dangerous (which is what we already do in some cases, and it's morally wrong).
Instead we had to try to brute force it.
We should have never been playing world police to begin with.
=== I would say that anyone who works in networking or security is well aware of the government shenanigans. All that Snowdon did was say, the government is doing the snooping, and violating the right to privacy. Perhaps saying that the government collects taxes would also open up someone to criminal prosecution.
The government tracks phone number use. When they suspect someone, they know his phone number, and then look at the from/to of calls to that number. What are they going to catch? Well, my grandaughter calling her grandparents, parents, boyfriends and girlfriends. What would the government do with politicians phone numbers? Your bet your sweet life that they would soon be (if not already) monitoring every politician's calling patterns. Republicans, are you finished spying on Democrats? No, the reverse is not happening, or is it?
write apps, contribute to open projects, write a book and or books, volunteer with a non-profit. Or read reddit a lot and play starcraft or something. So many possibilities.
There was a university in BA Argentina that developped a dynamic key encryption software application for cellphones. When you wanted your secure call, you got a key (process how is not certain), and the built-in AES encryption was applled to the packets going out and decryption coming in. The two users were therefore in a private session. Any attempt to overhear the call was futile. encryption was before the delivery to the network. There was a slight delay as the audio packet had to be processed. The Argentinian government, I believe, were very interested, because of military secretness.
And the next secure call used new randomly selected encryption keys from book. Their paper and working item relied heavily on the use of key management software.
...a certain desperation to Microsoft's IE marketing efforts
Not at all. If you run a company with 10,000 PCs then it's a significant saving.
Where I work, we hardly have time for web browsing. We support applications, do development, and keep the systems running with good performance. We are for the time being, a diehard W7 user. Doubt we will go to 8.x anywhere in the next 10 years. Since I am also a linux user, my comments are that for large enterprises, W7, Office 2010, Sharepoint, Outlook, Lync, and some other software is just what the doctor ordered. Linux is great for smaller offices, but not when there are 8000 users
If the manufacturing site is on Linux or Unix, there is an AT function. This is similar to crontab. A logon script would look at the current time and add an offset, say 4 hours. After 4 hours, the line the terminal access would be dropped. Or one could have a monitor of the network traffic and do a hangup after some idle period. No need to have a mechanical timer.
What you really are saying is that you have no test system around to accept the vendor's patches, and that he actually modifies the production system. SHAME on your company for inviting their own demise.
Get a test system, and test the vendor's patches first. If successful, then you schedule an implementation and fallback plan
Yet more evidence that the terrorists have won. We have here yet another citizen who believes that terrorism is a major problem. Each and every day, more Americans die in automobile accidents, than the terrorists have managed to kill since 9/11/01. Yet, "we're dog meat" because of terrorists.
Far to few Americans have any balls these days. Is it something in the diet? To many drugs? To much brain washing? What is it that causes Americans to whine like whipped dogs? "we're dog meat".
On the day of the Boston Marathon bombings, I saw a lot of people who have a bit of fortitude running TOWARD the explosions, to care for their fellow citizens. People with big brass balls, who understood that something bad had happened, and decided that they should disregard the potential for further explosions. Most of the severely injured have survived because all those people ran toward the disaster, and not away from it. The crowd at the marathon bombing made me proud.
This "we're dog meat" shit is embarrassing as all hell. I can see why he posted as AC.
Most people are selfish. They think of themselves first. And to further add to your ideas why there are no complainers, it is because the average American has become trained to be passive. Give him a Big Mac, Pizza at home, and a 50 inch TV, so he can sit and be entertained and fed, and that is the reason they don't give a care. Its "I don't want to get involved or get up from watching my TV show".
I'm sure he could have given the vendor (Microsoft) 5 or 10 days to work on a fix and devise a rollout before disclosing it. The only reason not to do this is if the exploit were being actively used in the wild, where the damage was already being done so there was nothing to gain from giving them more time.
=== If the exploit was actively used, I have two responses. a) Microsoft would have known about it, and b) instead of posting the bug, the author should have posted a fix
So in other words, Amazon has managed to lobby legislators into having a national internet sales tax which it can fairly easily implement (since it designed it and is a large company after all) in order to screw over both the average Joe AND make the playing field less competitive (the US tax code is far from simple...)
Gee thanks Amazon!
=== Would it not be in the best interest in all 50 states and territories to harmonize the sales tax? By that, sales tax would be a flat rate, and not proportional or inversely proportional to the item cost. Of course, we know that in most places, groceries are not taxable. Where I live, raw chicken ready for BBQ is not taxable, but cooked hot BBQ chicken is. Doughnuts are taxable if the purchased quantity is fewer than 6. I buy chocolate bars from the baking section, not from the check-out rack or the confectionery showcase.
Nope, just making exploits public without even trying to tell the vendor about them first is just a dickhead move, esp. on the users.
=== I would fire the guy. Yes, there was a bug, and Microsoft is a competitor, but it was not for Microsoft, Google would not exist. I thought that Google's motto was "Do no harm".
Well, here is a guy that did the most harm possible for his ego trip.
Google, remember this, what goes around comes around. Your employee did harm, revenge will be saught. Your critical applications will be analyzed six ways to Sunday, and the exploits will be pushed to the hackers around the world. Chromium and other software are not safe.
You're absolutely incorrect. Iris patterns DO change over time. It has been proven.
--- Do the patterns in Iris's change more severely than the physical anatomies of students ages 11 to 16? I would say that there are probably enough points of reference in an IRIS scan to persist for more than 10 years without changes in intensity or location. I am not an ophthalmologist
This would be voluntary. That is a pretty big difference.
At first. It would be voluntary at first. There are many people in power in this world today who would love to be able to tattoo some sort of ID on people from birth, or embed an RFID in their bodies at birth, and so on, so they can be tracked everywhere they go (with greater ease than we already are with goddamn fucking cameras everywhere. NO. JUST. NO. Yes, I understand the article is talking about something like a henna tattoo or a sticker you wear.. but it would set a dangerous precedent. The line has to be drawn here, no farther!
Some perspective du jour...
Rewind 50 years: "You mean those fuckers are going to require that they have my picture just so I can get a drivers license? Hell no! Let's draw the line in the sand! The MAN already knows too much about me, and it would set an unthinkable precedent!"
Fast forward 5 years (maybe less): "Oh, wait, you mean it will make my email and phone and bank account basically un-hackable in the face of wave after wave of cybertheft? Yeah, well, ok let's draw the line just a little further out"
=== 'My dog has embedded rfid chip. He does not suffer. And if he is lost, we can get him, if the finder takes him to a vet with a scanner.
And when in the future I get Alzheimer or dementia, it would be a good idea to have me identified by such a chip. And if I end up in the hospital, unconscious, the hospital could find out all my allergies before administering me penicillin or other anti-biotic. I am for it, the good outweighs the bad.
Whether you think the program is good or bad is irrelevant. The issue at hand is, they did this to minors without permission from the parents or notification to them.
But seriously though, why would you need iris scans of kids? Their reasoning is to track the students getting on and off the buses, replacing the identification cards that they students carry now. Oh wait, ALL of the kids had the scans done. What about the kids that do not ride the buses, the ones that walk or have parents/guardians pick them up and drop them off everyday. Not only are they invading the privacy by collecting personal information from a minor without consent, but they are removing a valuable lesson in responsibility, as well as collecting this data for people that will not or do not use the system at all.
What's more, the article says that all of the students went through the program, but you're telling me that there were no students at all that objected? I find it hard to believe that there were high school students involved and no one said "no".
How are you going to react when the police come door to door installing biometric scanners and requiring you to scan in/out each time you leave the house, walk into/out of a building, get into/out of your car?
Are we talking of a photograph of the iris? Is there radiation involved. I think that the school already has archived pictures of every student. It is in must jurisdictions a need to be able to identify a student, to/from school or in the premises. The Iris scan has a benefit. The scan will be the same after the child goes through puberty. However, childrens faces and hair styles changes. The iris is consistent, the photo is non invasive, and the concern is an over-exaggeration. In the same light, does the teacher have to send home the course material description for the coming week, to have the parents approval?
What a nonsense topic. Noone is going to kidnap a student based on an Iris photo.
If you're doing quants work, or business intelligence, data mining etc, sure. Hardcore math is a must. If you're developing business software or something like that, it's more important to know Djikstra, the gang of four and closures.
=== Definition of advanced math please?
I would make it a requirement for probability and statistics and queuing theory to be a requirement. When I started in IT, I was working in a Bank's IT department. The bank had a standard that said "No atm customer should wait more than 4 minutes of turn around time -- Queue plus service). The bank executives wanted to know the impact on ATM queuing if the increased host transaction response time by 25,50,75 and 100 ms. For each level, where would there be bottlenecks in the network at peaks, and in how many locations would they have to add an ATM machine.
Thats where your advanced math in the above topics would come into play. Yes, we got answers, and then we found out that we could get atm's delivered within a month, but the building codes, security, and other permissions and concerns to work through ( needed to install an additional ATM) required between 6 months and a year to obtain.
I had to give up using Gnome for Fedora 19. On one implementation I installed both KDE and Gnome. There were over 7 pages of 30 icons per page of scrolling that I had to do to view what I needed to use. And that did not include my QT and C++ workbenches, as well as python and Eclipse.
So,, with KDE, its one to two clicks and the application I want is there. It certainly not as pretty, but it is way the more functional versus Gnome.
Fedora, aside from which is better, KDE or GNOME, is really great.
The rich would not benefit if the consumption tax was applied to their living expenses or their investments. Tax every purchase. In Canada, where the government can get away with it, they even tax used car sales.
In Canada we went metric 20 years ago. The analog speedometers show metric as an outer circle for the needle/hand that shows speed. The inner circumference shows miles.
In the newer vehicles, this is user programmable, as the guages are electronic displays
I have begun to doubt my position and wonder if we don't have some responsibility to artificially 'cripple' the solution and in doing so protect the user from themselves
That tells me he should consider working for Apple.
It tells me that at the moment he's on the Gnome 3 dev team.
=== I abandoned Gnome3.8 in favour of KDE. Took a few minutes to adjust, and now with two mouse clicks, I can start about any application
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what COBOL does as well as COBOL does it.
I am an old fart. I started with cobol in the 60's, and it was a favourite. I could do perform paragraphs as good as the next guy, and I knew my go-tos and computed go-tos.
I am more than picture 66 clauses.
That's a matter of genetics, I guess. I spotted my first gray hairs while I was still in college. (Yes, at the "traditional" age to be in college.)
let the gentleman die or tint his hair, and find references from people in the industry he wants to move to. Also, dress according to now, not to the 1980's. Pants, sports jacket, colored shirt, no tie, and reasonable shoes.
You do not want to show anacronism, or someone on the wild side.
You may even offer to work a free week for a evaluation.
Why would the freest country in the world (except, perhaps, Iceland) be against it?
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Do you want to chase after hundreds of developers around the world, and ask them to patch your code for them(NSA, IRS, etc). or would you want to deal with one enterprise and closed source.
OpenSource is hard to patch without being caught. Open Source is hard to patch, sung to the tune of ....
http://slashdot.org/submission/2747589/us-pressuring-hong-kong-to-arrest-snowden-while-snowden-has-flown-to-moscow
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Someone wants revenge. Otherwise they will feel cheated in that they were caught with their pants down. Snowdon said what the USA was doing. He did not specify individuals. He did not give IP addresses, he stated clearly that the constitution was being stepped on by certain organizations. Ignore the citizens right to privacy, he does not count. Could the citizen later plead the 5th? He should be able to, as the snooping was just fishing expeditions.
I thought Larry Ellison hates cloud computing?
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Nah, he doesn't hate Cloud Computing. It is his way to test the waters for an eventual Oracle takeover of Microsoft. Ellison thrives on winning, and will, by successive approximations, suddenly be asked to take over all of MS. Just you wait and see.
I read was her rambling blog and wondered about her story. If her blog goes off topic, is the attack too painful to discuss.
She hit him with a coffee mug. --On the head or in the eye?
What do you think. Something happened, but it is not clear to me if it was a date that went too far or something else as claimed. By the way, she has no reason to fabricate this story.
If you're going to have an arms race, it might as well be in an area with significent civilian applications.
Shame the space race died once America made target and the USSR fell apart. If that had kept going, we'd be living in apartments on Mars by now.
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Who cares. Mars does not have grass or flowers, or sexy blondes.
but how do you know they aren't going to harm the US
You need to prove that they're likely going to, which is more or less the same thing they have to do to get a warrant for such matters.
There is no need to be 100% certain of anything, so I'm not sure why you asked that question. The same thing could be said about normal civilians, which would lead to us spying on them to find out if they're actually dangerous (which is what we already do in some cases, and it's morally wrong).
Instead we had to try to brute force it.
We should have never been playing world police to begin with.
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I would say that anyone who works in networking or security is well aware of the government shenanigans.
All that Snowdon did was say, the government is doing the snooping, and violating the right to privacy. Perhaps saying that the government collects taxes would also open up someone to criminal prosecution.
The government tracks phone number use. When they suspect someone, they know his phone number, and then look at the from/to of calls to that number. What are they going to catch? Well, my grandaughter calling her grandparents, parents, boyfriends and girlfriends.
What would the government do with politicians phone numbers? Your bet your sweet life that they would soon be (if not already) monitoring every politician's calling patterns. Republicans, are you finished spying on Democrats?
No, the reverse is not happening, or is it?
write apps, contribute to open projects, write a book and or books, volunteer with a non-profit. Or read reddit a lot and play starcraft or something. So many possibilities.
Get a dog and take long walks.
There was a university in BA Argentina that developped a dynamic key encryption software application for cellphones. When you wanted your secure call, you got a key (process how is not certain), and the built-in AES encryption was applled to the packets going out and decryption coming in. The two users were therefore in a private session. Any attempt to overhear the call was futile. encryption was before the delivery to the network. There was a slight delay as the audio packet had to be processed. The Argentinian government, I believe, were very interested, because of military secretness.
And the next secure call used new randomly selected encryption keys from book. Their paper and working item relied heavily on the use of key management software.
...a certain desperation to Microsoft's IE marketing efforts
Not at all. If you run a company with 10,000 PCs then it's a significant saving.
Where I work, we hardly have time for web browsing. We support applications, do development, and keep the systems running with good performance. We are for the time being, a diehard W7 user. Doubt we will go to 8.x anywhere in the next 10 years.
Since I am also a linux user, my comments are that for large enterprises, W7, Office 2010, Sharepoint, Outlook, Lync, and some other software is just what the doctor ordered. Linux is great for smaller offices, but not when there are 8000 users
If the manufacturing site is on Linux or Unix, there is an AT function. This is similar to crontab. A logon script would look at the current time and add an offset, say 4 hours. After 4 hours, the line the terminal access would be dropped. Or one could have a monitor of the network traffic and do a hangup after some idle period. No need to have a mechanical timer.
What you really are saying is that you have no test system around to accept the vendor's patches, and that he actually modifies the production system. SHAME on your company for inviting their own demise.
Get a test system, and test the vendor's patches first. If successful, then you schedule an implementation and fallback plan
"The terrorists are smart and we're dog meat"
Yet more evidence that the terrorists have won. We have here yet another citizen who believes that terrorism is a major problem. Each and every day, more Americans die in automobile accidents, than the terrorists have managed to kill since 9/11/01. Yet, "we're dog meat" because of terrorists.
Far to few Americans have any balls these days. Is it something in the diet? To many drugs? To much brain washing? What is it that causes Americans to whine like whipped dogs? "we're dog meat".
On the day of the Boston Marathon bombings, I saw a lot of people who have a bit of fortitude running TOWARD the explosions, to care for their fellow citizens. People with big brass balls, who understood that something bad had happened, and decided that they should disregard the potential for further explosions. Most of the severely injured have survived because all those people ran toward the disaster, and not away from it. The crowd at the marathon bombing made me proud.
This "we're dog meat" shit is embarrassing as all hell. I can see why he posted as AC.
Most people are selfish. They think of themselves first. And to further add to your ideas why there are no complainers, it is because the average American has become trained to be passive. Give him a Big Mac, Pizza at home, and a 50 inch TV, so he can sit and be entertained and fed, and that is the reason they don't give a care. Its "I don't want to get involved or get up from watching my TV show".
I'm sure he could have given the vendor (Microsoft) 5 or 10 days to work on a fix and devise a rollout before disclosing it. The only reason not to do this is if the exploit were being actively used in the wild, where the damage was already being done so there was nothing to gain from giving them more time.
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If the exploit was actively used, I have two responses. a) Microsoft would have known about it, and b) instead of posting the bug, the author should have posted a fix
Its completely broken with perfectly legitimate local DNS URLs. And can also error on IP addresses entered manually.
Like it or not, it breaks standards. That may be cool with you, but its worth shit to anyone who is more than a trivial user.
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Have patience. As debugging and alpah/beta users provide feedback, these issues will be fixed.
You are looking at a pre-alpha version
So in other words, Amazon has managed to lobby legislators into having a national internet sales tax which it can fairly easily implement (since it designed it and is a large company after all) in order to screw over both the average Joe AND make the playing field less competitive (the US tax code is far from simple...)
Gee thanks Amazon!
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Would it not be in the best interest in all 50 states and territories to harmonize the sales tax? By that, sales tax would be a flat rate, and not proportional or inversely proportional to the item cost. Of course, we know that in most places, groceries are not taxable. Where I live, raw chicken ready for BBQ is not taxable, but cooked hot BBQ chicken is. Doughnuts are taxable if the purchased quantity is fewer than 6.
I buy chocolate bars from the baking section, not from the check-out rack or the confectionery showcase.
Yes, tax us into weight loss.
Nope, just making exploits public without even trying to tell the vendor about them first is just a dickhead move, esp. on the users.
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I would fire the guy. Yes, there was a bug, and Microsoft is a competitor, but it was not for Microsoft, Google would not exist. I thought that Google's motto was "Do no harm".
Well, here is a guy that did the most harm possible for his ego trip.
Google, remember this, what goes around comes around. Your employee did harm, revenge will be saught. Your critical applications will be analyzed six ways to Sunday, and the exploits will be pushed to the hackers around the world. Chromium and other software are not safe.
You're absolutely incorrect. Iris patterns DO change over time. It has been proven.
--- Do the patterns in Iris's change more severely than the physical anatomies of students ages 11 to 16? I would say that there are probably enough points of reference in an IRIS scan to persist for more than 10 years without changes in intensity or location.
I am not an ophthalmologist
This would be voluntary. That is a pretty big difference.
At first. It would be voluntary at first.
There are many people in power in this world today who would love to be able to tattoo some sort of ID on people from birth, or embed an RFID in their bodies at birth, and so on, so they can be tracked everywhere they go (with greater ease than we already are with goddamn fucking cameras everywhere. NO. JUST. NO.
Yes, I understand the article is talking about something like a henna tattoo or a sticker you wear.. but it would set a dangerous precedent. The line has to be drawn here, no farther!
Some perspective du jour...
Rewind 50 years:
"You mean those fuckers are going to require that they have my picture just so I can get a drivers license? Hell no! Let's draw the line in the sand! The MAN already knows too much about me, and it would set an unthinkable precedent!"
Fast forward 5 years (maybe less):
"Oh, wait, you mean it will make my email and phone and bank account basically un-hackable in the face of wave after wave of cybertheft? Yeah, well, ok let's draw the line just a little further out"
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'My dog has embedded rfid chip. He does not suffer. And if he is lost, we can get him, if the finder takes him to a vet with a scanner.
And when in the future I get Alzheimer or dementia, it would be a good idea to have me identified by such a chip. And if I end up in the hospital, unconscious, the hospital could find out all my allergies before administering me penicillin or other anti-biotic.
I am for it, the good outweighs the bad.
Whether you think the program is good or bad is irrelevant. The issue at hand is, they did this to minors without permission from the parents or notification to them.
But seriously though, why would you need iris scans of kids? Their reasoning is to track the students getting on and off the buses, replacing the identification cards that they students carry now. Oh wait, ALL of the kids had the scans done. What about the kids that do not ride the buses, the ones that walk or have parents/guardians pick them up and drop them off everyday. Not only are they invading the privacy by collecting personal information from a minor without consent, but they are removing a valuable lesson in responsibility, as well as collecting this data for people that will not or do not use the system at all.
What's more, the article says that all of the students went through the program, but you're telling me that there were no students at all that objected? I find it hard to believe that there were high school students involved and no one said "no".
How are you going to react when the police come door to door installing biometric scanners and requiring you to scan in/out each time you leave the house, walk into/out of a building, get into/out of your car?
Are we talking of a photograph of the iris? Is there radiation involved. I think that the school already has archived pictures of every student. It is in must jurisdictions a need to be able to identify a student, to/from school or in the premises.
The Iris scan has a benefit. The scan will be the same after the child goes through puberty. However, childrens faces and hair styles changes. The iris is consistent, the photo is non invasive, and the concern is an over-exaggeration.
In the same light, does the teacher have to send home the course material description for the coming week, to have the parents approval?
What a nonsense topic. Noone is going to kidnap a student based on an Iris photo.
If you're doing quants work, or business intelligence, data mining etc, sure. Hardcore math is a must. If you're developing business software or something like that, it's more important to know Djikstra, the gang of four and closures.
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Definition of advanced math please?
I would make it a requirement for probability and statistics and queuing theory to be a requirement. When I started in IT, I was working in a Bank's IT department. The bank had a standard that said "No atm customer should wait more than 4 minutes of turn around time -- Queue plus service).
The bank executives wanted to know the impact on ATM queuing if the increased host transaction response time by 25,50,75 and 100 ms. For each level, where would there be bottlenecks in the network at peaks, and in how many locations would they have to add an ATM machine.
Thats where your advanced math in the above topics would come into play.
Yes, we got answers, and then we found out that we could get atm's delivered within a month, but the building codes, security, and other permissions and concerns to work through ( needed to install an additional ATM) required between 6 months and a year to obtain.
I had to give up using Gnome for Fedora 19. On one implementation I installed both KDE and Gnome. There were over 7 pages of 30 icons per page of scrolling that I had to do to view what I needed to use. And that did not include my QT and C++ workbenches, as well as python and Eclipse.
So,, with KDE, its one to two clicks and the application I want is there. It certainly not as pretty, but it is way the more functional versus Gnome.
Fedora, aside from which is better, KDE or GNOME, is really great.
The rich would not benefit if the consumption tax was applied to their living expenses or their investments. Tax every purchase. In Canada, where the government can get away with it, they even tax used car sales.
In Canada we went metric 20 years ago. The analog speedometers show metric as an outer circle for the needle/hand that shows speed. The inner circumference shows miles.
In the newer vehicles, this is user programmable, as the guages are electronic displays
That tells me he should consider working for Apple.
It tells me that at the moment he's on the Gnome 3 dev team.
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I abandoned Gnome3.8 in favour of KDE. Took a few minutes to adjust, and now with two mouse clicks, I can start about any application