As this story demonstrates, they'll do whatever they have to, to create a provocation that lets them shoot you.
Right. Because the national guardsmen psychically sent a signal to a freelance photographer to make him bring a gun and open fire. Makes perfect sense.
Government agents infiltrate situations or causes to instigate and manufacture threats, violence, or confusion in order to promote or convince the rest of the country to condone action against said infiltrated group? Tell me it ain't so?
Idiot conspiracy theorist making up shit that isn't backed up by any actual evidence? Tell me it ain't so!
Why don't you see it as criticizing the problems in the west rather than endorsement of the problems in the east?
Because if I say "child rape is bad" and someone else says "it's actually no different from homosexuality", I don't really give a damn that they're probably attacking homosexuality - I care about the fact that they're downplaying a truly evil act in order to further their own political agenda.
There are only two things that can get you that much notice from the U.S. government: 1) Try to start a war they don't want. 2) Try to stop a war they do want.
AFAIK, the US is the only nation in the history of planet which has stopped a war because a bunch of sandal-wearing potheads walked in circles and waived a bunch of signs. So I think you're a little off-base, there.
Ah, yes. You're one of those twits who claims he lives in a fascist nation because your neighbor deleted one of the comments you left on his facebook profile.
Proud product of the American Education System, huh?
These findings implicate co-infection by IIV and Nosema with honey bee colony decline, giving credence to older research pointing to IIV, interacting with Nosema and mites, as probable cause of bee losses in the USA, Europe, and Asia. We next need to characterize the IIV and Nosema that we detected and develop management practices to reduce honey bee losses.
Wow, it's almost like they're proposing that we do more science!
i was starting to think it had something to do with the elevated aluminum levels in the soil/plants and the way plants have been genetically modified to produce their own insecticides
That's because you're stupid. Judging by all the tinfoil-wearing enviro-fanatics these days, it appears to be a communicable disease. Now put down your bag of "organic" tomatoes, and pick up a goddamn biology book.
Hardly amazing. People like stories. Considering how long we've had nonsense like astrology, homeopathy, religion, and all sort of other superstitious nonsense, how can you be surprised that the UFO nutters are still at it?
As a (former) cop.... Anybody in law enforcement, at every level, is an infantile egomaniac.
If there's one thing I've learned from being a part of large government organizations, it's that any individual can only really speak about himself. Any time you hear a soldier, cop, or politician speak about their field of work, they tell you more about themselves than they do about the organization.
The whole point of Relativity is that there's no "preferred reference
Yes, I get that. I've already acknowledged that. From a purely impartial perspective, it's completely valid. From a human perspective, it's retarded. As a child grows, we COULD say that the rest of the world is actually shrinking, but that would, likewise, be retarded. We could also say that both views are equally valid; this would also be retarded. It might prove useful in some circumstances, when playing around with abstract math, but when it comes to everyday discussion there's only one valid reference point.
It might be better if you read the Wikipedia articles on the Lorentz Transform and Special Relativity.
I've read them. I read them a long time ago. I re-read the article on special relativity when you first mentioned it, and I re-read the article on the Lorentz transform just now. I'm as familiar with the concepts as a person can be without fully grasping the mathematics involved. Neither article does anything to support your claim. Time dilation is still a real, observed phenomenon.
Time travels at the same rate in the different locations for people at those locations. However, when they look at the other location from where they are, they will see time there traveling slower.
Once again - already acknowledged. Again, you're just repeating the same assertion over and over.
You're missing something very important about the Twin Paradox: that is how long it takes for information about one of the observers in one frame to reach the observer in the other.
No, I'm not missing it - I explicitly stated that your entire argument hinges on the time needed for "information" (ie. light) to reach the traveling observer. I think YOU are missing something very important about the Twin Paradox: that the traveling twin WILL ACTUALLY BE YOUNGER than the stationary twin, upon his return to earth. No amount of wikibation can change that.
Hi, I'm from Canada. Over here, any value which might exist in a sarcastic comment completely disappears when it's repeated even once, let alone twice.
Yeah, two AC's already said the same thing. The only difference is that you actually put a name to your silliness. Do you really consider this to be a legitimate concern, or are you just trolling?
5. Replace melted patient with new patient. 6. Fix broken chair and write reminder to buy restraints for next patient. 7. Demand ONE HUNDRED BEEEELION dollars. 8. Profit!
These durned new ow-toe-mo-beals sound like the bees knees, but they will never take the place of good ol' "Lightning" over here. He might fart a lot and throw me once in a while, but he's cheap, easy, accurate, and relatively harmless. These sound expensive, require all sorts of factories, they break down all the time, and rely on someone to bring oil from who-knows-where just to get them to move. In some cases they may be useful, but for the majority of your traveling needs, horses are clearly the way to go!
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As this story demonstrates, they'll do whatever they have to, to create a provocation that lets them shoot you.
Right. Because the national guardsmen psychically sent a signal to a freelance photographer to make him bring a gun and open fire. Makes perfect sense.
Government agents infiltrate situations or causes to instigate and manufacture threats, violence, or confusion in order to promote or convince the rest of the country to condone action against said infiltrated group? Tell me it ain't so?
Idiot conspiracy theorist making up shit that isn't backed up by any actual evidence? Tell me it ain't so!
In other news, grass is green.
Seems more likely that some idiot protesters accused him of being an "agent provocateur", attacked him, he panicked and pulled his gun.
Just check wikipedia, ok? :)
You either fail at reading comprehension or basic logic, since I wasn't speaking about the qualities or opinions of others.
lol. Watch out for the chemtrails!
Huh?
You really don't understand the concept of an analogy, do you?
It's not historically accurate. I still don't get what point you're trying to make.
Why don't you see it as criticizing the problems in the west rather than endorsement of the problems in the east?
Because if I say "child rape is bad" and someone else says "it's actually no different from homosexuality", I don't really give a damn that they're probably attacking homosexuality - I care about the fact that they're downplaying a truly evil act in order to further their own political agenda.
People also don't shoot fleas with a shotgun. What's your point?
There are only two things that can get you that much notice from the U.S. government: 1) Try to start a war they don't want. 2) Try to stop a war they do want.
AFAIK, the US is the only nation in the history of planet which has stopped a war because a bunch of sandal-wearing potheads walked in circles and waived a bunch of signs. So I think you're a little off-base, there.
Ah, yes. You're one of those twits who claims he lives in a fascist nation because your neighbor deleted one of the comments you left on his facebook profile.
Proud product of the American Education System, huh?
From TFP:
Conclusions/Significance
These findings implicate co-infection by IIV and Nosema with honey bee colony decline, giving credence to older research pointing to IIV, interacting with Nosema and mites, as probable cause of bee losses in the USA, Europe, and Asia. We next need to characterize the IIV and Nosema that we detected and develop management practices to reduce honey bee losses.
Wow, it's almost like they're proposing that we do more science!
i was starting to think it had something to do with the elevated aluminum levels in the soil/plants and the way plants have been genetically modified to produce their own insecticides
That's because you're stupid. Judging by all the tinfoil-wearing enviro-fanatics these days, it appears to be a communicable disease. Now put down your bag of "organic" tomatoes, and pick up a goddamn biology book.
I thought it was God's vengeance for cellphone use.
freezing prisoner would be a lot cheaper than caring for them
Shooting them in the head would be even cheaper, and would create only a slightly lower probability of them being revived.
Any guidelines on how to help the bees return?
Teeeeeny tiny vaccines?
Last I checked, blimps weren't exactly "high speed". I can't see the boys at Top Gun coming up with a course for zeppelin pilots any time soon ...
Hardly amazing. People like stories. Considering how long we've had nonsense like astrology, homeopathy, religion, and all sort of other superstitious nonsense, how can you be surprised that the UFO nutters are still at it?
As a (former) cop .... Anybody in law enforcement, at every level, is an infantile egomaniac.
If there's one thing I've learned from being a part of large government organizations, it's that any individual can only really speak about himself. Any time you hear a soldier, cop, or politician speak about their field of work, they tell you more about themselves than they do about the organization.
The whole point of Relativity is that there's no "preferred reference
Yes, I get that. I've already acknowledged that. From a purely impartial perspective, it's completely valid. From a human perspective, it's retarded. As a child grows, we COULD say that the rest of the world is actually shrinking, but that would, likewise, be retarded. We could also say that both views are equally valid; this would also be retarded. It might prove useful in some circumstances, when playing around with abstract math, but when it comes to everyday discussion there's only one valid reference point.
It might be better if you read the Wikipedia articles on the Lorentz Transform and Special Relativity.
I've read them. I read them a long time ago. I re-read the article on special relativity when you first mentioned it, and I re-read the article on the Lorentz transform just now. I'm as familiar with the concepts as a person can be without fully grasping the mathematics involved. Neither article does anything to support your claim. Time dilation is still a real, observed phenomenon.
Time travels at the same rate in the different locations for people at those locations. However, when they look at the other location from where they are, they will see time there traveling slower.
Once again - already acknowledged. Again, you're just repeating the same assertion over and over.
You're missing something very important about the Twin Paradox: that is how long it takes for information about one of the observers in one frame to reach the observer in the other.
No, I'm not missing it - I explicitly stated that your entire argument hinges on the time needed for "information" (ie. light) to reach the traveling observer. I think YOU are missing something very important about the Twin Paradox: that the traveling twin WILL ACTUALLY BE YOUNGER than the stationary twin, upon his return to earth. No amount of wikibation can change that.
Hi, I'm from Canada. Over here, any value which might exist in a sarcastic comment completely disappears when it's repeated even once, let alone twice.
Stop doing it.
Yeah, two AC's already said the same thing. The only difference is that you actually put a name to your silliness. Do you really consider this to be a legitimate concern, or are you just trolling?
5. Replace melted patient with new patient.
6. Fix broken chair and write reminder to buy restraints for next patient.
7. Demand ONE HUNDRED BEEEELION dollars.
8. Profit!
These durned new ow-toe-mo-beals sound like the bees knees, but they will never take the place of good ol' "Lightning" over here. He might fart a lot and throw me once in a while, but he's cheap, easy, accurate, and relatively harmless. These sound expensive, require all sorts of factories, they break down all the time, and rely on someone to bring oil from who-knows-where just to get them to move. In some cases they may be useful, but for the majority of your traveling needs, horses are clearly the way to go!