2. Operation Northwoods demonstrates that the US government would consider faking terrorist attacks. It's not the only example of the US government being dishonest, so can we at least agree that they can't be trusted, in general? I can cite more examples, if you really want, but I think we can agree on this.
3. I don't deny that there are terrorists who want to attack the US/UK, but what I intend to point out is that whenever an attack is "foiled", that may just be political propaganda. When an attack happens, it may be that the government had a role in it, if it suits their political agenda. That role might involve execution, or might just involve letting it happen despite knowing about it. No one can be sure about this. It almost happened in 1962. What has changed so much about the US government since 1962 that makes them most trustworthy today?
Read the document that came straight out of the DOD, then. The Wikipedia article's claims are mostly quotes directly from the Operation Northwoods document.
I can't agree with that because you'd probably end up killing hundreds of innocent people for every terrorist that you manage to kill. I think the worldwide opinion would drastically change if the US was attacked even after having pulled out of foreign countries, although we still couldn't be sure about whether any attack was a false flag attack.
Had they (terrorists/freedom fighters) succeeded would this article be here complaining about we cant bring on toothpaste, or would we be talking about the 10-20 planes and thousands of people who died today?
Thousands of people did die today... Due to car accidents, cancer, and poverty. If we're just trying to stop deaths, we should focus on making safer cars, researching cancer, and helping those less fortunate than ourselves.
You said one thing right: In order to be fair, this ultimatum should be only *after* we have stopped our meddling in the Middle East. All troops should first be unilaterally withdrawn and all aid to Israel should cease.
I think you'd find that if the US did that, all of the attacks would stop.
Yes, but what the grandparent poster said made it sound like the gun misfired. It was a far more ugly situation than that.
Either way, what happened is completely indefensible. Police should not ever be allowed to approach someone in this way and shoot them in the head like that.
Do you realise how ridiculous that sounds? Let's pretend that is the case. Why are they attacking the US and Britain when there are much closer (and softer) targets?
Most terrorist attacks take place due to the foreign occupation of another country. It is much more likely that the US trying to spread Christianity. They even admit it.
Excellent emotional propaganda! You should run for president.
Those of us who don't get carried away so easily might inquire, though, how does freedom for us allow them to attack us? How does making sure people don't get fair trials serve to keep us safe? How does allowing people to be detained for weeks without being charged keep us safe?
If you can't release the source code, I'd rather you didn't release the executable code, either. I'd also rather you can't use Qt in that case, because then you have to put up with awful Windows API crap.
First to file still allows prior art - why wouldn't it?
Suppose first to file allows prior art. In the case of the person filing the claim not being the inventor, there would be prior art from whomever was the inventor.
1. They don't seem to have any motive. That's what makes it so frustrating.
2. No, because most drivers run at kernel level. That's like giving each of those companies a root login to your computer. Would you run absolutely any binary code that I send you as root? Give me your email address.
How did Intel get away with it, then? Besides, it is simple enough (but illegal in some places, hence a legal driver can't be written from this method) to reverse engineer the existing driver if someone is determined enough to do this.
That's a bad response. Telling people to "fuck off" isn't nice. Especially when they have what appears to be a legitimate complaint. As a free software developer, I am happy for people to complain about my software, although, I don't write drivers.
Anyway, in this case the problem doesn't lie with free software developers, otherwise there definitely would be a driver by now!
The problem is that people are buying hardware from hardware manufacturers that are being absolute bastards.
I've never had an ATI card, so I don't know what their status is, but is there even a free software driver for your card? If not, then you're probably blaming the wrong organisation. If ATI won't cooperate, you can't expect Ubuntu to magically still support ATI hardware.
I, too, am very happy with the excellent performance from the iw2200. I'm also on a Dell laptop.
When I got it, I reinstalled Windows (I only use Windows to compile programs for Windows users) to get rid of the Dell spyware and was annoyed to find that wireless wasn't working until I installed the driver.
I was pleasantly surprised when Ubuntu didn't give me any hassles. I was able to open Firefox and start browsing without doing anything else. An OS like Ubuntu is most beautiful when you are using properly supported hardware.
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1. The current "foiled attack" is quite obviously fictional:
A senior congressional source told CNN that the plot was believed to hinge on mixing an energy drink with a gel-like substance inflight to create a potent explosive capable of being ignited by an MP3 player or mobile phone.
Unhook your brain from the government propaganda and think about that for a second. Energy drink + gel + MP3 player/mobile phone = terrorist attack? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
2. Operation Northwoods demonstrates that the US government would consider faking terrorist attacks. It's not the only example of the US government being dishonest, so can we at least agree that they can't be trusted, in general? I can cite more examples, if you really want, but I think we can agree on this.
3. I don't deny that there are terrorists who want to attack the US/UK, but what I intend to point out is that whenever an attack is "foiled", that may just be political propaganda. When an attack happens, it may be that the government had a role in it, if it suits their political agenda. That role might involve execution, or might just involve letting it happen despite knowing about it. No one can be sure about this. It almost happened in 1962. What has changed so much about the US government since 1962 that makes them most trustworthy today?
Read the document that came straight out of the DOD, then. The Wikipedia article's claims are mostly quotes directly from the Operation Northwoods document.
I can't agree with that because you'd probably end up killing hundreds of innocent people for every terrorist that you manage to kill. I think the worldwide opinion would drastically change if the US was attacked even after having pulled out of foreign countries, although we still couldn't be sure about whether any attack was a false flag attack.
Had they (terrorists/freedom fighters) succeeded would this article be here complaining about we cant bring on toothpaste, or would we be talking about the 10-20 planes and thousands of people who died today?
Thousands of people did die today... Due to car accidents, cancer, and poverty. If we're just trying to stop deaths, we should focus on making safer cars, researching cancer, and helping those less fortunate than ourselves.
I suspect, however, that all of this terrorism hype isn't about stopping deaths. We don't even know for sure that there was going to be a terrorist attack. The US and UK governments are far from being trustworthy. The US government has contemplated "simulated" terrorist attacks to change public opinion.
You said one thing right:
In order to be fair, this ultimatum should be only *after* we have stopped our meddling in the Middle East. All troops should first be unilaterally withdrawn and all aid to Israel should cease.
I think you'd find that if the US did that, all of the attacks would stop.
Yes, but what the grandparent poster said made it sound like the gun misfired. It was a far more ugly situation than that.
Either way, what happened is completely indefensible. Police should not ever be allowed to approach someone in this way and shoot them in the head like that.
Do you realise how ridiculous that sounds? Let's pretend that is the case. Why are they attacking the US and Britain when there are much closer (and softer) targets?
Most terrorist attacks take place due to the foreign occupation of another country. It is much more likely that the US trying to spread Christianity. They even admit it.
London is America, not Europe. A proper European country like Sweden should be more afraid of a false flag attack from the US than terrorists.
In Operation Northwoods, terrorist attacks were going to be used as a pretext for war.
Are you sure?
Operation Northwoods
Project for a New American Century
False flag
Excellent emotional propaganda! You should run for president.
Those of us who don't get carried away so easily might inquire, though, how does freedom for us allow them to attack us? How does making sure people don't get fair trials serve to keep us safe? How does allowing people to be detained for weeks without being charged keep us safe?
One problem: Europeans usually aren't the targets because Europeans usually don't fuck with other countries.
The police shot one guy by accident...
In the head. Nine times. Accident, eh?
How about I chase you around, trying to shoot you in the head "by accident", and then we'll see how well you accept my humble apologies...
dats y dey ned ggl 2 do it!!!!!!!!
If you can't release the source code, I'd rather you didn't release the executable code, either. I'd also rather you can't use Qt in that case, because then you have to put up with awful Windows API crap.
First to file still allows prior art - why wouldn't it?
Suppose first to file allows prior art. In the case of the person filing the claim not being the inventor, there would be prior art from whomever was the inventor.
testing and quality control on multiple operating systems is a -nightmare-.
Testing is never a nightmare if done properly. I suspect most games don't do it properly, though.
1. They don't seem to have any motive. That's what makes it so frustrating.
2. No, because most drivers run at kernel level. That's like giving each of those companies a root login to your computer. Would you run absolutely any binary code that I send you as root? Give me your email address.
How did Intel get away with it, then? Besides, it is simple enough (but illegal in some places, hence a legal driver can't be written from this method) to reverse engineer the existing driver if someone is determined enough to do this.
I sought out a laptop (Dell Inspiron 710m) that would work. Why can't other people?
That's a bad response. Telling people to "fuck off" isn't nice. Especially when they have what appears to be a legitimate complaint. As a free software developer, I am happy for people to complain about my software, although, I don't write drivers.
Anyway, in this case the problem doesn't lie with free software developers, otherwise there definitely would be a driver by now!
The problem is that people are buying hardware from hardware manufacturers that are being absolute bastards.
I've never had an ATI card, so I don't know what their status is, but is there even a free software driver for your card? If not, then you're probably blaming the wrong organisation. If ATI won't cooperate, you can't expect Ubuntu to magically still support ATI hardware.
Must have been pretty old. VLC is based on ffmpeg, and the VLC in Debian Sarge is capable of encoding to Theora.
Come here so I can teach you a lessen.
I, too, am very happy with the excellent performance from the iw2200. I'm also on a Dell laptop.
When I got it, I reinstalled Windows (I only use Windows to compile programs for Windows users) to get rid of the Dell spyware and was annoyed to find that wireless wasn't working until I installed the driver.
I was pleasantly surprised when Ubuntu didn't give me any hassles. I was able to open Firefox and start browsing without doing anything else. An OS like Ubuntu is most beautiful when you are using properly supported hardware.