My neighbor had both players and I put my bets on HDDVD (only because I picked up a normally advertised $300 player for $150 -- floor model). For Christmas, him and his wife actually bought the wife and I a Samsung BD-P1400. I read the entire owner's manual front to back (does anyone do that anymore). Comes out they have a big huge fat disclaimer in there on how the format can change and they won't guarantee it will play future revisions.
The only thing I don't like, even though the Samsung upscales normal DVD's to close to it's 1080p output, it "stops" randomly while playing them. My Toshiba HDDVD's output is only 1080i (and even tho the upscale for standard DVDs is only close to that). At least it doesn't stop randomly.
I realize too this may be a firmware issue, but still an annoyance. Some cat5 to the ethernet jack in the back should allow internet firmware updates.
I have a torrent coming in, finishing in about 30 mins, I applied that patch you pointed out (leave it to kernel dudes to make it so elegant as to be solely one line). When I can reboot I'll reply back.
And I'm not vulnerable. Assuming vmsplice is for the new KVM code, I use vmware and qemu for virtulization. (I have no need for xen or kvm until I get a svm/vmx flag in my cpu).
So my vanilla-hand-compiled-with-only-certain-static-options 2.6.24 kernel on a highly customized slack 10.2 is safe.
I had an epiphany lately. You see, I've been into technology for around 20 years or so. I really like Unix and how it works, and I have to say I was really excited when Linux came into my playground.
I have Mac friends, I have Linux friends and I have PC friends (even have a PC wife). But we're all geeks. We love computers and technology.
Now at my last job, I really enjoyed it. It was an ISP and over the years I worked there as a system admin, I enjoyed helping to convert it from a solaris/cisco shop to a linux/vmware/cisco shop.
But then we (my family) decided to relocate. I packed up my Linux experience and cisco certs and moved 800 miles away, far away from the reach of my ISP job.
When I moved to this new locale, everything was different. Even the culture was different. The culture of being a geek (around here) was different. I landed a job as a Sr Network Engineer. But MS was God around here. We're actually an ASP and some people act like Linux is something you stepped in outside in the grass. We're even an "MS Gold" partner. All does not bode well for me.
I was really disappointed. I missed the ISP job and my Linux geek friends. We kept in touch on IRC.
But my networking capabilities floated my career, and I continued to use Linux at home, and setup a few small Linux vmware-server guests so I could do my work on the command line as I'm accustomed.
Recently our products (at the new ASP job) have really matured. We can offer someone a secure website where they can login to all their apps.
Here comes the epiphany part. The people who resent their computers the most are the ones who don't want to use them but are forced to. They have to buy a laptop, stage it with antivirus software and a dozen windows apps, like office, ugh what a headache.
Not anymore... I also realized there was a Linux client for our product. This is where I got really excited. I can do whatever I want on my desktop, including run Linux.
The people who don't care about computers, but just want to sit at a box and do work, will be happy. Myself, who likes to tear them apart, figure out how they work, study protocols, run Linux and learn more, will be happy.
Plenty of our customers use thin clients. They don't care about technology other than how it effects their business and as long as Office lives somewhere.
Perhaps in the future, we'll evolve into Time Machine-esque creatures where the geeks hunt the non-geeks for food. And MS will just be the rancher that cages them in for us.
It was nothing short of interactive story telling. I had friends who were geeks and artists, and it was really fun for a while. I had a character whom I role played his entire family. If I had taken some serious notes, I really could have written a book!
Mind you, I quit playing after 2nd edition. And my playing time was a good 15-20 years ago. (Man, am I getting that old?).
People who dwell on the rules, or have little bickering fights wanting to annoy someone who they didn't like (not all the geeks liked the artists and vice-versa) really kinda ruined it.
What I got out of it, was imagination, a weak form of acting, and the ability to shape my dreams into reality while playing by the rules. It's nice to set personal goals and then work hard to achieve them.
Anyone else who doesn't really benefit from it in some way, or get something positive out of it is wasting their time. I never really got the appeal of the computer versions, either. (I have all the old gold box games for C64 and Amiga in their original packaging), even MMORPGs of today, seem kinda... lacking. Everyone is playing the same revision of about the same story.
When I moved into a new house (and a new job, new state, etc) my wife and I purchased an HDTV. Being big media fans, I knew it was a matter of time before we took sides in the new Hi-Def DVD format war.
I didn't care for the prices of the players. To make a long story short, a local retail store had a Toshiba HD DVD player on sale (well the display unit) for about 1/2 off... so $150 sounded good to me, I bought it on the spot.
Even though it only outputs 1080i, I love it. It makes the standard def DVDs look good as well. Now a neighbor buddy of mine decided to take both sides in the format war, already had a PS3 and bought himself a Toshiba HD DVD player, too (the next model number up).
So for Christmas, he and his spouse got me and the wife a Blu-ray disc player. So I guess we're all set in the format war for now.
I think if people get annoyed enough (my wife didn't like how some titles were Blu-ray only) they'll just settle down and get both. Not only that, the prices are coming down. My neighbor friend knew how frugal I can be and he insisted it was on sale and he got a really good deal on it.
Personally I like the output on the particular Blu-Ray player (1080p) *but* for some reason standard-def DVDs abrubptly "stop" during playing. I had this issue with several Netflix DVD's and chalked it up to the used disc. But last night I opened a new (standard def) DVD and it had the same problem.
Guess my entire point is, geeks like options. Given the price coming down, average Joes will like the options too and the whole "format war" will become moot.
Maybe then someone will sit down at the table and agree on something.
I'm with this guy. I was twelve years old twenty years ago when I first started using a computer *a lot*. I have friends and a brother with CTS but not myself. Must just be good habits, or perhaps there's other factors involved?
You actually have a fantastic point. (Sorry out of mod points). One would tend to think that Linux aficionado would take the moral high road and promote cooperation. By acting in this way and pointing fingers, aren't they kinda missing the point?
I was part of a few voip beta tests a few years ago both for places I've worked and competitors. I installed this program, and it worked well. It's like a sip packet sniffer. So this is really nothing new.
This wasn't in Manhattan, but I did live in central NY up until last year. I had an EZPass for the thruway for years, but before I had one, I actually received a ticket from the thruway system. It was on Valentine's day, they insisted I ran through the EZPass lane without paying. (I had previously never had an EZPass). I know for a fact that was false, because my wife and I had an optometrist's appointment, we were going to go out for dinner afterwards. Well, they had dialated our pupils so we just drove home... nowhere near the thruway.
Anyhow, to make a long story short, my means of contacting friends who had friends who worked for the thruway, I eventually got in touch with a real person. By this time several weeks had gone by and they escalated the small fine into preparing to take away my license. My friend-with-a-friend suggested that I ask for the picture of my car, as they take pictures, as you go through the lane. Sure enough, either my car type didn't match, or they didn't have the picture. It was dropped and I never heard another thing again.
I honestly think a few weeks prior I had thrown out some old license plates (those in NY know you're supposed to recycle them, but also you're supposed to deface/damage them)... I think someone had stolen them from the recycle bin and ran through the ezpass lane.
Just an example of how some crazy surveillance crap saved me from a fine or getting my license revoked.
... with the music producers. The mp3 format is a bastardization of music. It cuts out 90% of the original work, so therefor the mp3 copy is not a duplicated master. So when I listen to an mp3, I'm only hearing part of the music. And if I were to be charged with copyright infringement, I would say, well no, it's not an exact copy, it's only a 10% representation of the real thing. So I guess this whole RIAA thing is just blown out of proportion!
Is there a link where I can help out? What if I have some "Google 700mhz" fund money? Reading the comments on this page, and as a network engineer having to deal with BellSouth (now the new AT&T) *all the freakin' time* I would like nothing more than to see Google win this auction.
Like them, I'd be willing to put my money where my mouth is.
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My neighbor had both players and I put my bets on HDDVD (only because I picked up a normally advertised $300 player for $150 -- floor model). For Christmas, him and his wife actually bought the wife and I a Samsung BD-P1400. I read the entire owner's manual front to back (does anyone do that anymore). Comes out they have a big huge fat disclaimer in there on how the format can change and they won't guarantee it will play future revisions.
The only thing I don't like, even though the Samsung upscales normal DVD's to close to it's 1080p output, it "stops" randomly while playing them. My Toshiba HDDVD's output is only 1080i (and even tho the upscale for standard DVDs is only close to that). At least it doesn't stop randomly.
I realize too this may be a firmware issue, but still an annoyance. Some cat5 to the ethernet jack in the back should allow internet firmware updates.
No, the patch from Linus' git repository doesn't fix the 2nd exploit. Rebooted with the new splice.o and same thing happens.
I have a torrent coming in, finishing in about 30 mins, I applied that patch you pointed out (leave it to kernel dudes to make it so elegant as to be solely one line). When I can reboot I'll reply back.
I did a "grep -i" on the term "splice" in my /usr/src/linux/.config and it came up empty.
I did not include KVM support in my kernel on purpose.
As this http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=9;filename=patch;att=1;bug=464953 patch points out, it's in the general fs splice.c code, so I think it is more serious than I originally had thought.
For some reason, (if someone can substantiate this I would appreciate it) I could get neither code to work on a CentOS 4.6 machine setup as a server).
I'm buying into the idea that it may be based (a little) on kernel config options, but an official patch would be bet
Uh oh. There's another link, (not the one from the /. article) that worked on my machine:
http://www.milw0rm.com/exploits/5093
Notice the original article links to 5092.
... I compiled it and ran it.
And I'm not vulnerable. Assuming vmsplice is for the new KVM code, I use vmware and qemu for virtulization. (I have no need for xen or kvm until I get a svm/vmx flag in my cpu).
So my vanilla-hand-compiled-with-only-certain-static-options 2.6.24 kernel on a highly customized slack 10.2 is safe.
I had an epiphany lately. You see, I've been into technology for around 20 years or so. I really like Unix and how it works, and I have to say I was really excited when Linux came into my playground.
... I also realized there was a Linux client for our product. This is where I got really excited. I can do whatever I want on my desktop, including run Linux.
I have Mac friends, I have Linux friends and I have PC friends (even have a PC wife). But we're all geeks. We love computers and technology.
Now at my last job, I really enjoyed it. It was an ISP and over the years I worked there as a system admin, I enjoyed helping to convert it from a solaris/cisco shop to a linux/vmware/cisco shop.
But then we (my family) decided to relocate. I packed up my Linux experience and cisco certs and moved 800 miles away, far away from the reach of my ISP job.
When I moved to this new locale, everything was different. Even the culture was different. The culture of being a geek (around here) was different. I landed a job as a Sr Network Engineer. But MS was God around here. We're actually an ASP and some people act like Linux is something you stepped in outside in the grass. We're even an "MS Gold" partner. All does not bode well for me.
I was really disappointed. I missed the ISP job and my Linux geek friends. We kept in touch on IRC.
But my networking capabilities floated my career, and I continued to use Linux at home, and setup a few small Linux vmware-server guests so I could do my work on the command line as I'm accustomed.
Recently our products (at the new ASP job) have really matured. We can offer someone a secure website where they can login to all their apps.
Here comes the epiphany part. The people who resent their computers the most are the ones who don't want to use them but are forced to. They have to buy a laptop, stage it with antivirus software and a dozen windows apps, like office, ugh what a headache.
Not anymore
The people who don't care about computers, but just want to sit at a box and do work, will be happy. Myself, who likes to tear them apart, figure out how they work, study protocols, run Linux and learn more, will be happy.
Plenty of our customers use thin clients. They don't care about technology other than how it effects their business and as long as Office lives somewhere.
Perhaps in the future, we'll evolve into Time Machine-esque creatures where the geeks hunt the non-geeks for food. And MS will just be the rancher that cages them in for us.
Since when was Apple stuff open source?
...I'm going to snipe them and bid 1.3 Billion at the last second.
It was nothing short of interactive story telling. I had friends who were geeks and artists, and it was really fun for a while. I had a character whom I role played his entire family. If I had taken some serious notes, I really could have written a book!
... lacking. Everyone is playing the same revision of about the same story.
Mind you, I quit playing after 2nd edition. And my playing time was a good 15-20 years ago. (Man, am I getting that old?).
People who dwell on the rules, or have little bickering fights wanting to annoy someone who they didn't like (not all the geeks liked the artists and vice-versa) really kinda ruined it.
What I got out of it, was imagination, a weak form of acting, and the ability to shape my dreams into reality while playing by the rules. It's nice to set personal goals and then work hard to achieve them.
Anyone else who doesn't really benefit from it in some way, or get something positive out of it is wasting their time. I never really got the appeal of the computer versions, either. (I have all the old gold box games for C64 and Amiga in their original packaging), even MMORPGs of today, seem kinda
Where's the imagination, or creativity in that?
Google is Google because of things like Linux and OSS.
Linux/OSS are the tools which allow Google to exist.
I'm just waiting for the next big Google.
Ahh yes, thank you for correcting me!
We must keep our preschool intellectual property accurate. We wouldn't want anyone taking our toddlers to court!
I find it hilarious that the author says "the OS looks like something Fisher Price might have designed." It's sort of an (un)concious jab at Linux.
Here's something I noticed for years:
Do me a huge favor. Go to an XP machine. Go to control panel, look at the icon for "User Accounts".
Look familiar?
When I moved into a new house (and a new job, new state, etc) my wife and I purchased an HDTV. Being big media fans, I knew it was a matter of time before we took sides in the new Hi-Def DVD format war.
... so $150 sounded good to me, I bought it on the spot.
I didn't care for the prices of the players. To make a long story short, a local retail store had a Toshiba HD DVD player on sale (well the display unit) for about 1/2 off
Even though it only outputs 1080i, I love it. It makes the standard def DVDs look good as well. Now a neighbor buddy of mine decided to take both sides in the format war, already had a PS3 and bought himself a Toshiba HD DVD player, too (the next model number up).
So for Christmas, he and his spouse got me and the wife a Blu-ray disc player. So I guess we're all set in the format war for now.
I think if people get annoyed enough (my wife didn't like how some titles were Blu-ray only) they'll just settle down and get both. Not only that, the prices are coming down. My neighbor friend knew how frugal I can be and he insisted it was on sale and he got a really good deal on it.
Personally I like the output on the particular Blu-Ray player (1080p) *but* for some reason standard-def DVDs abrubptly "stop" during playing. I had this issue with several Netflix DVD's and chalked it up to the used disc. But last night I opened a new (standard def) DVD and it had the same problem.
Guess my entire point is, geeks like options. Given the price coming down, average Joes will like the options too and the whole "format war" will become moot.
Maybe then someone will sit down at the table and agree on something.
...is penguins.
And you thought Air Wolf had badass headgear.
You'll have all the kids thinking "Is Air Wolf a new game for the wii???".
I'm with this guy. I was twelve years old twenty years ago when I first started using a computer *a lot*. I have friends and a brother with CTS but not myself. Must just be good habits, or perhaps there's other factors involved?
I welcome our new Wimax toting Sproogle overlords. (Sproogle works better than Grint).
You beat me to the pool analogy punch.
I was going to say, "Einstein was right, God doesn't play dice. He plays pool. Third planet, corner pocket!"
You actually have a fantastic point. (Sorry out of mod points). One would tend to think that Linux aficionado would take the moral high road and promote cooperation. By acting in this way and pointing fingers, aren't they kinda missing the point?
I was part of a few voip beta tests a few years ago both for places I've worked and competitors. I installed this program, and it worked well. It's like a sip packet sniffer. So this is really nothing new.
Please Mom?
This wasn't in Manhattan, but I did live in central NY up until last year. I had an EZPass for the thruway for years, but before I had one, I actually received a ticket from the thruway system. It was on Valentine's day, they insisted I ran through the EZPass lane without paying. (I had previously never had an EZPass). I know for a fact that was false, because my wife and I had an optometrist's appointment, we were going to go out for dinner afterwards. Well, they had dialated our pupils so we just drove home... nowhere near the thruway.
... I think someone had stolen them from the recycle bin and ran through the ezpass lane.
Anyhow, to make a long story short, my means of contacting friends who had friends who worked for the thruway, I eventually got in touch with a real person. By this time several weeks had gone by and they escalated the small fine into preparing to take away my license. My friend-with-a-friend suggested that I ask for the picture of my car, as they take pictures, as you go through the lane. Sure enough, either my car type didn't match, or they didn't have the picture. It was dropped and I never heard another thing again.
I honestly think a few weeks prior I had thrown out some old license plates (those in NY know you're supposed to recycle them, but also you're supposed to deface/damage them)
Just an example of how some crazy surveillance crap saved me from a fine or getting my license revoked.
... with the music producers. The mp3 format is a bastardization of music. It cuts out 90% of the original work, so therefor the mp3 copy is not a duplicated master. So when I listen to an mp3, I'm only hearing part of the music. And if I were to be charged with copyright infringement, I would say, well no, it's not an exact copy, it's only a 10% representation of the real thing. So I guess this whole RIAA thing is just blown out of proportion!
Is there a link where I can help out? What if I have some "Google 700mhz" fund money? Reading the comments on this page, and as a network engineer having to deal with BellSouth (now the new AT&T) *all the freakin' time* I would like nothing more than to see Google win this auction.
Like them, I'd be willing to put my money where my mouth is.