I can't believe this article. The number of places you store your data is directly related to the level of which it's important to you. People put all their data in once place then cry when it's gone? How is this new?
Isn't this akin to dumping all you money into one stock then whining when it tanks?
I worked for an ISP from 2001-2006 (Dreamscape Online) who had their POP raided in 1998 from then-AG Steve Vacco (he was running for re-election if I remember correctly).
In 1998 I heard about this in the news, and was annoyed at the common man's lack of knowledge about technology. By the time I worked there the ISP outsourced it's newsgroup servers.
I love the attorney's quote at the end of the article. How people should go after the originators and not the ISP's.
I was very glad to have worked at a place which seemed to have set a precedent. But did it really? I mean, here we are 10 years later, and some average Joe sixpacks (including AG's) still have no clue as how to fix social issues.
Because that's what they are. They're social issues not technical issues. Hell, the internet connection is just the carrier. We need to get ISP's out of the service (and content) business _NOW_.
Somehow I feel like this is bureaucratic BS... like my local municipality saying they're going to take care of pot holes, only to come examine and scrutinize my driveway... and patting themselves on the back for the excellent job they're performing.
I want to see this stuff wiped out as much as anyone else. But for some reason they're focusing their efforts at the wrong ends of the internet.
Your website is broken. I live in Colorado and my IP is 1.2.3.4. If you don't believe me, my ISP is Joe's ISP and Tire Shack, Inc, just perform a quick whois on the information. I would suggest you contact whomever you use for geolocation information to have them correct it....
Same information, not sent to Slashdot. If the people running the service don't respond to you, maybe they'll respond to a dozen companies who own the websites you go to. Remember, you're *their* customer, it's in their best interest to have your info correct.
I used to work as a SysAdmin for an ISP, we acquired a new block of IPs which previously were owned by a nefarious spammer. I had to jump through hoops trying to convince some blacklists to remove us. Finally, when there was one list with zero contact information and it seemed to no longer have any management behind it, I called our customers (there were only about two) having issues emailing a particular state office. I called the state office and explained the situation, they whitelisted just the IP of our particular mail server.
Think about solving the problem in a different way.
I thought we settled this dispute with a precedent. I don't remember particulars, but remember when IBM made "IBM PCs" and tried to sue the pants off of people making "clones"? Comes out you can clone something without "copying" it. If Daryl said something to the tune of "Linux is a Clone of Unix" he *may* have been ever so slightly closer. But saying it's a copy, is showing his ignorance or his idea that most of the world is ignorant and will believe him.
It was odd, wish I could find the email. I had formatted one of my slack partitions for reiserfs. I remember writing to the author, saying something like, "wow, I saved X% by switching to your filesystem!". He writes back and wanted to quote me, I said, well, it's kinda inaccurate as I took my analysis from a "df -h" which kinda rounds the whole amounts, and would not be as accurate as plain ol' "df". The guy flipped out via email, he kept on insisting he quote my original "I saved X% with your filesystem". I eventually said no and we dropped it.
I can't remember if it was Hans, but I do remember it being a 15Gb hard drive and having problems with it after that. (Dunno maybe it was beta software at the time?). I started using jfs and ext3 shortly after that.
I thought it was interesting then. It's also important to point out, Anne Wojcicki's husband's name is Sergey Brin. Having access to massive amounts of computing power makes sense for a genetics company.
And peddling on a bike, staying balanced without training wheels is so freakin hard too. Oh and tying my shoes? No matter what people tell me about the bunnie ears, I just don't get it. I'm like, just buy me some velco shoes or ones I can slip on. Or maybe I can go barefoot.
I mean editing a text file? C'mon people, what do you think I am, a rocket surgeon?
I'll keep my fluxbox, thanks. Then again, I run Slackware as well. Long ago when I was obsessed with UT2004, I wanted a minimal and fast window manager. I loaded fluxbox and never went back. Every time I try KDE or Gnome on the same hardware, it seems too slow.
Because I have the existential geek name, as it appears in so many tech books, I registered Fredtest.com. You would be surprised how many other IT Fred's out there send mail to Fred@fredtest.com.
I got bored with replying (some guy in SanDiego is a real estate agent for ReMax, I don't think he ever got it), so I just limited what my mail server will accept.
Now it just bounces back to the sender and hopefully they think "oops, perhaps I shouldn't do that", which is what I believe this guy should do. Discourage the bad behavior, don't exploit it.
I've actually experienced this type of thing in the last two jobs I've had. Allow me to explain.
I moved from my job in NY as a System Admin for an ISP. I won't name names, but our major tech we used was Cisco, Solaris, Linux and VMware ESX.
My family and I moved to SC for the nicer weather... I landed a job as Sr Network Engineer for an ASP. I thought, ASP, can't be too different. Well 800 miles away, some things are the same, some are different. I'm a command-line, CLI type guy. The ASP is an MS Gold Partner and takes advantage of Citrix. All the network gear is Cisco (which is where me and my team come in). I thought, oh great... I don't belong here (except for the Cisco stuff). For the record, we do have *some* Linux hosting and colo.
But I setup a few smallish vmware servers and I'm happy. I have my Linux-in-a-box. I've done a bunch of grepping and typing and scripting and such this morning, and I found some new issues that I didn't see before without seeing the "big picture".
So back to my point. I'm very picky about the apps I use and whatnot, so it's hard for me to "conform" to an IT ruleset about what can and cannot be run on company machines. The ISP I worked at was very flexible in this manner, for some reason I expect this out of the new job.
Our business model is we sell these published apps and hosting to our customers. We run a large private MPLS network and connect many smaller places to us. They can run Office 2007 from a website.
Then it hit me. Things have been getting really optimized in the last year or two, so we're using our own stuff. My office apps "live" in a website. The revelation came that now, when it comes to my laptop (or desktop), I can do whatever I want. Notice this is typically a nightmare for common IT shops, but many of our smaller customers think IT is a pain and will be happy with published apps and thinclients. For someone like me, who is tech-savvy, I can format my machine and install Linux (some of the other guys have already done so). Because there's a Citrix web client for Linux (I use it at home). Involve virtualization in the mix, and our datacenter becomes one giant network, one giant machine that we manage and the apps are just floating around inside. We manage all the security and whatnot, and keep it running.
So in a way, you really can have it both ways. We're not a Web 2.0 shop, but our method is definitely Another Way to Do It.
Or heighten up the layer 2 security. If I only allow one mac address per switchport, this wouldn't work. Why fix the remote side when the problem is local? Add some 802.1x authentication, and you're not even getting on my LAN unless you're authenticated.
I think it boils down to Psychology. I'm a huge fan of Linux, but not a very big fan of games. Sure, I've played AD&D in the past. I have the latest Nvidia drivers for my machine and can play UT2004 whenever I'd like, and it runs just as well in Linux as it did in Windows.
But I also think my mindset is that of a nuts-and-bolts engineer. I want to know how things tick, take them apart, break them and put them back together again. I think a long time ago I was mystified with the idea of magic and slight of hand. So I started studying it myself. Guess what? Some of the mystery went away. And I was bored.
I think plenty of self proclaimed "gamers" are fascinated about the idea of being whisked away into a fantasy world. Much like the older ones of us feel when reading a book. Some of my younger friends and relatives who are gamers act this way. Should they become programmers, and find out what it really takes to make a game, or perhaps some of the shortcuts taken, it takes that magical feeling away. So there's no interest there, or it's lost very quickly. They also seemed baffled when I wasn't really impressed with their gaming systems, when a very powerful computer was a better tool. They were looking to play, I was looking to work.
I always thought the idea of being a "gamer" was a funny label. Games are easy to play. I read books so am I some sort of extreme "reader". Books are easy to read... both have a certain foundation to them, you're taken on a journey and a certain level of imagination is involved. Writing books is harder than reading them, just as playing games is easier than writing them.
So for me, games, I can take them or leave them. Ok they're cute. But I would call myself a "gamer" just much as I'd call myself a "shoe-tier" or "tic-tac-toer" or "peanut-butter-and-jelly-sandwhich-maker".
Yup, think about it. This changes everything. When the RIAA goes after someone, they'll have to consider what type of license the music is released under. They can't have a blanket statement, "we distribute all music so therefor any and all copying is illegal." Now, some copying(/distribution) is illegal, guess who decides what will be successful, when the consumer has a choice?
I stopped right there. Um, harassing people on a website doesn't exactly make you "tech-savvy". Also, calling teachers names, passing notes, etc, has probably gone on for centuries. This is nothing new. I didn't care for the tech-savvy label, since places like MySpace make it so easy to throw up a website even a braindead monkey could do it.
I think the teachers should up their knowledge on the subject, and confront the kids themselves. Teach them a little bit about the real world.
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I can't believe this article. The number of places you store your data is directly related to the level of which it's important to you. People put all their data in once place then cry when it's gone? How is this new?
Isn't this akin to dumping all you money into one stock then whining when it tanks?
I worked for an ISP from 2001-2006 (Dreamscape Online) who had their POP raided in 1998 from then-AG Steve Vacco (he was running for re-election if I remember correctly).
Here's a nice writeup on it: http://www.theharbinger.org/xvii/990119/blair.html
In 1998 I heard about this in the news, and was annoyed at the common man's lack of knowledge about technology. By the time I worked there the ISP outsourced it's newsgroup servers.
I love the attorney's quote at the end of the article. How people should go after the originators and not the ISP's.
I was very glad to have worked at a place which seemed to have set a precedent. But did it really? I mean, here we are 10 years later, and some average Joe sixpacks (including AG's) still have no clue as how to fix social issues.
Because that's what they are. They're social issues not technical issues. Hell, the internet connection is just the carrier. We need to get ISP's out of the service (and content) business _NOW_.
Somehow I feel like this is bureaucratic BS ... like my local municipality saying they're going to take care of pot holes, only to come examine and scrutinize my driveway ... and patting themselves on the back for the excellent job they're performing.
I want to see this stuff wiped out as much as anyone else. But for some reason they're focusing their efforts at the wrong ends of the internet.
... and yes in the "blocking freedom" event, China has already taken the gold!
Dear movielink, nvidia, {insert website here},
...
Your website is broken. I live in Colorado and my IP is 1.2.3.4. If you don't believe me, my ISP is Joe's ISP and Tire Shack, Inc, just perform a quick whois on the information. I would suggest you contact whomever you use for geolocation information to have them correct it.
Same information, not sent to Slashdot. If the people running the service don't respond to you, maybe they'll respond to a dozen companies who own the websites you go to. Remember, you're *their* customer, it's in their best interest to have your info correct.
I used to work as a SysAdmin for an ISP, we acquired a new block of IPs which previously were owned by a nefarious spammer. I had to jump through hoops trying to convince some blacklists to remove us. Finally, when there was one list with zero contact information and it seemed to no longer have any management behind it, I called our customers (there were only about two) having issues emailing a particular state office. I called the state office and explained the situation, they whitelisted just the IP of our particular mail server.
Think about solving the problem in a different way.
I thought we settled this dispute with a precedent. I don't remember particulars, but remember when IBM made "IBM PCs" and tried to sue the pants off of people making "clones"? Comes out you can clone something without "copying" it. If Daryl said something to the tune of "Linux is a Clone of Unix" he *may* have been ever so slightly closer. But saying it's a copy, is showing his ignorance or his idea that most of the world is ignorant and will believe him.
It was odd, wish I could find the email. I had formatted one of my slack partitions for reiserfs. I remember writing to the author, saying something like, "wow, I saved X% by switching to your filesystem!". He writes back and wanted to quote me, I said, well, it's kinda inaccurate as I took my analysis from a "df -h" which kinda rounds the whole amounts, and would not be as accurate as plain ol' "df". The guy flipped out via email, he kept on insisting he quote my original "I saved X% with your filesystem". I eventually said no and we dropped it.
I can't remember if it was Hans, but I do remember it being a 15Gb hard drive and having problems with it after that. (Dunno maybe it was beta software at the time?). I started using jfs and ext3 shortly after that.
I think you may have accidentally coined a new term, typo-style.
...to give back. This would be one of the biggest PR debacles of all time for a proprietard company. What he's saying is this:...
Here's the link:
http://www.wired.com/medtech/genetics/magazine/15-12/ff_genomics
I thought it was interesting then. It's also important to point out, Anne Wojcicki's husband's name is Sergey Brin. Having access to massive amounts of computing power makes sense for a genetics company.
And peddling on a bike, staying balanced without training wheels is so freakin hard too. Oh and tying my shoes? No matter what people tell me about the bunnie ears, I just don't get it. I'm like, just buy me some velco shoes or ones I can slip on. Or maybe I can go barefoot.
I mean editing a text file? C'mon people, what do you think I am, a rocket surgeon?
I know these people! All the women in the family have a rare condition, where, when nude, they appearence is easily mistaken for lawn chairs!
You can see them sunbathing in the back yard by the pool! I can't believe they didn't sue for more money!
Amen brother! I'm surrounded by a bunch of people who remember the "good ol' days of 95 and 98". I'm like ugh.
...(and I know I'm going to get it for this), but doesn't it say a lot about the Adult Network Admin in Alabama?
Egads, make that "TINSTAFS" ... I'm abbreviationally challenged today.
"There is no such thing as free software."
Slavery, anyone?
I'll keep my fluxbox, thanks. Then again, I run Slackware as well. Long ago when I was obsessed with UT2004, I wanted a minimal and fast window manager. I loaded fluxbox and never went back. Every time I try KDE or Gnome on the same hardware, it seems too slow.
So yea, the lazy part was correct.
Because I have the existential geek name, as it appears in so many tech books, I registered Fredtest.com. You would be surprised how many other IT Fred's out there send mail to Fred@fredtest.com.
I got bored with replying (some guy in SanDiego is a real estate agent for ReMax, I don't think he ever got it), so I just limited what my mail server will accept.
Now it just bounces back to the sender and hopefully they think "oops, perhaps I shouldn't do that", which is what I believe this guy should do. Discourage the bad behavior, don't exploit it.
I've actually experienced this type of thing in the last two jobs I've had. Allow me to explain.
... I landed a job as Sr Network Engineer for an ASP. I thought, ASP, can't be too different. Well 800 miles away, some things are the same, some are different. I'm a command-line, CLI type guy. The ASP is an MS Gold Partner and takes advantage of Citrix. All the network gear is Cisco (which is where me and my team come in). I thought, oh great ... I don't belong here (except for the Cisco stuff). For the record, we do have *some* Linux hosting and colo.
I moved from my job in NY as a System Admin for an ISP. I won't name names, but our major tech we used was Cisco, Solaris, Linux and VMware ESX.
My family and I moved to SC for the nicer weather
But I setup a few smallish vmware servers and I'm happy. I have my Linux-in-a-box. I've done a bunch of grepping and typing and scripting and such this morning, and I found some new issues that I didn't see before without seeing the "big picture".
So back to my point. I'm very picky about the apps I use and whatnot, so it's hard for me to "conform" to an IT ruleset about what can and cannot be run on company machines. The ISP I worked at was very flexible in this manner, for some reason I expect this out of the new job.
Our business model is we sell these published apps and hosting to our customers. We run a large private MPLS network and connect many smaller places to us. They can run Office 2007 from a website.
Then it hit me. Things have been getting really optimized in the last year or two, so we're using our own stuff. My office apps "live" in a website. The revelation came that now, when it comes to my laptop (or desktop), I can do whatever I want. Notice this is typically a nightmare for common IT shops, but many of our smaller customers think IT is a pain and will be happy with published apps and thinclients. For someone like me, who is tech-savvy, I can format my machine and install Linux (some of the other guys have already done so). Because there's a Citrix web client for Linux (I use it at home). Involve virtualization in the mix, and our datacenter becomes one giant network, one giant machine that we manage and the apps are just floating around inside. We manage all the security and whatnot, and keep it running.
So in a way, you really can have it both ways. We're not a Web 2.0 shop, but our method is definitely Another Way to Do It.
Or heighten up the layer 2 security. If I only allow one mac address per switchport, this wouldn't work. Why fix the remote side when the problem is local? Add some 802.1x authentication, and you're not even getting on my LAN unless you're authenticated.
This is a local ARP poisoning attack.
What did the notice to Myspace/google etc consist of? I can break things on my local LAN, so fix your site?
If he did this in my office he'd get a tireiron to the head because I could walk over to him and do it.
I think it boils down to Psychology. I'm a huge fan of Linux, but not a very big fan of games. Sure, I've played AD&D in the past. I have the latest Nvidia drivers for my machine and can play UT2004 whenever I'd like, and it runs just as well in Linux as it did in Windows.
But I also think my mindset is that of a nuts-and-bolts engineer. I want to know how things tick, take them apart, break them and put them back together again. I think a long time ago I was mystified with the idea of magic and slight of hand. So I started studying it myself. Guess what? Some of the mystery went away. And I was bored.
I think plenty of self proclaimed "gamers" are fascinated about the idea of being whisked away into a fantasy world. Much like the older ones of us feel when reading a book. Some of my younger friends and relatives who are gamers act this way. Should they become programmers, and find out what it really takes to make a game, or perhaps some of the shortcuts taken, it takes that magical feeling away. So there's no interest there, or it's lost very quickly. They also seemed baffled when I wasn't really impressed with their gaming systems, when a very powerful computer was a better tool. They were looking to play, I was looking to work.
I always thought the idea of being a "gamer" was a funny label. Games are easy to play. I read books so am I some sort of extreme "reader". Books are easy to read... both have a certain foundation to them, you're taken on a journey and a certain level of imagination is involved. Writing books is harder than reading them, just as playing games is easier than writing them.
So for me, games, I can take them or leave them. Ok they're cute. But I would call myself a "gamer" just much as I'd call myself a "shoe-tier" or "tic-tac-toer" or "peanut-butter-and-jelly-sandwhich-maker".
Yup, think about it. This changes everything. When the RIAA goes after someone, they'll have to consider what type of license the music is released under. They can't have a blanket statement, "we distribute all music so therefor any and all copying is illegal." Now, some copying(/distribution) is illegal, guess who decides what will be successful, when the consumer has a choice?
I stopped right there. Um, harassing people on a website doesn't exactly make you "tech-savvy". Also, calling teachers names, passing notes, etc, has probably gone on for centuries. This is nothing new. I didn't care for the tech-savvy label, since places like MySpace make it so easy to throw up a website even a braindead monkey could do it.
I think the teachers should up their knowledge on the subject, and confront the kids themselves. Teach them a little bit about the real world.
It makes me wonder if somehow MS bought out Fisher Price. I've mentioned this before.
The next time someone whines "How can we make money if we give away XYZ for free?" ask them how we can give away recipes for free without starving.
/. forum, it's more preaching to the choir.
Good article, btw, but I think here in the
Technet is revolting? Hell, I coulda told you that!