Oh, like throwing stars? If you throw them, you lose your weapon, and up close they're as good as a pen. You'd have better luck with a blowgun. (Straws haven't been confiscated yet, btw.)
Or how about an airtight container filled with some poisonous gas? Envelope with anthax?
Fine, keep collecting scissors and two inch long pocket knives. Clearly thinking like it's accomplishing something is more important than whether or not it's actually doing something.
I'll pick the broken tray. First, I'll block your thrown stars (assuming you can even get a good windup given the claustrophobic environment inside a plane) and, now that you're disarmed, beat you over the head with said tray.
Or if it's a flimsy kind like in school, break it in half and stab you with a shard.
Or can I establish the criteria of the demonstration? In which case I'll take the necktie and you can sit in the seat in front of me.
"I mean, if you don't count 1923, 1927, 1928, 1932, 1936-39, 1941, 1943, 1947, 1949-53, 1956, 1958, 1961, 1962, 1977, 1978, 1996, 1998-2000, or 2009, when have the NY Yankees EVER won a World Series?!"
If their show of security is successful, they will never have a "first real capture",
The problem I have with this, though, is it essentially demands the TSA is working as theorized, except people sneaking contraband aboard is easy fodder for slow news days.
Don't have time at the moment to search, but people have snuck banned objects (including boxcutters) aboard. Sure, in these cases the sole purpose is to make the TSA look stupid(er), but what if one of those people really WAS a lunatic and used it to kill someone on board? Won't exactly look good for the TSA...
You cannot predict how people will behave in a crisis.
United 93. American Airlines 63. Northwest Airlines 253.
I dunno...you're unsourced claim seems to hold less water than my unsourced claim.
Citation needed.
I have 2 cites above in favor of passengers (3 if you count 'foiling the plan' and omit 'and live to tell about it') and can find 0 cites in favor of the TSA.
Is there data you can share that supports this statement?
I wish I had anything concrete. While they claim they've stopped a lot, there's never any name attached, only vague statements. I wager the TSA is chomping at the bit for their first real capture so they can display them on the news and go, "SEE!? We ARE being productive!!"
And I'm still dead if he strangles me with a tie, stabs me with a broken off piece of tray or attacks me with any number of other improvised weapons that are already on planes.
So your argument is "it's better to die from a something not prohibited by the TSA than it is to die from something prohibited?" Either way I'm still dead.
Which results in the bigger question of... "So what?"
So someone brings ninja stars on a 747 and goes on a bloody rampage (or...well...two, three people before everyone in the 5 rows above and behind tie him up with seat belt extenders...)
How different is this from someone taking a tie and strangling the person in front of them? Or breaking off the tray table? Or using any one of a hundred other improvised weapons?
Security theater is not security. There are more cases of passengers stopping lunatics on planes than there are of TSA stopping lunatics from getting on planes.
It's also a catchall. Most accidents are not the result of a single "pilot error." They're the result of MANY small errors that build up, the last piece being the final 'pilot error.'
Take Comair 191 for example, the one that took the short runway. You have two tired pilots, a closed taxi lane, outdated airport charts, a lone controller in the tower. So while, in the end, it was a 'pilot error,' there were issues all over, any one of which could have changed the outcome of the flight.
The people who are raising Cain over party affiliation on this article are looking for an axe to grind, a little mud to sling, and a little schaudefreude.
The people who don't simply say, "oh look, another dumbass politician."
In fact, it took the gas prices of the mid 2000s to really bugger up USPS. Largest private fleet, every penny gas went up they'd be out another $2 million. Then tack on the decrease of snail mail, the inability to do the simple things private industry can do unilaterally but for USPS requires an act of Congress (close branches, reduce days of service), and the inability to raise rates above the rate of inflation...
USPS HAS a plan to get in the black...they just can't cause their board (Congress) won't let them.
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Physics is not a slave to style.
The problem with cars is we expect them to look a certain way. This shows we could make more efficient vehicles with a radical new design.
The car's only 830 pounds, so they don't really need much of either.
Reading the Wired article, linked below, the total prize was $10 mil. Edison2 got $5 mil, the other two got $2.5 mil each.
Oh, like throwing stars? If you throw them, you lose your weapon, and up close they're as good as a pen. You'd have better luck with a blowgun. (Straws haven't been confiscated yet, btw.)
Or how about an airtight container filled with some poisonous gas? Envelope with anthax?
Fine, keep collecting scissors and two inch long pocket knives. Clearly thinking like it's accomplishing something is more important than whether or not it's actually doing something.
I'll pick the broken tray. First, I'll block your thrown stars (assuming you can even get a good windup given the claustrophobic environment inside a plane) and, now that you're disarmed, beat you over the head with said tray.
Or if it's a flimsy kind like in school, break it in half and stab you with a shard.
Or can I establish the criteria of the demonstration? In which case I'll take the necktie and you can sit in the seat in front of me.
Where's your sharp object now?
I don't know, I think it's a great argument!
"I mean, if you don't count 1923, 1927, 1928, 1932, 1936-39, 1941, 1943, 1947, 1949-53, 1956, 1958, 1961, 1962, 1977, 1978, 1996, 1998-2000, or 2009, when have the NY Yankees EVER won a World Series?!"
If their show of security is successful, they will never have a "first real capture",
The problem I have with this, though, is it essentially demands the TSA is working as theorized, except people sneaking contraband aboard is easy fodder for slow news days.
Don't have time at the moment to search, but people have snuck banned objects (including boxcutters) aboard. Sure, in these cases the sole purpose is to make the TSA look stupid(er), but what if one of those people really WAS a lunatic and used it to kill someone on board? Won't exactly look good for the TSA...
You cannot predict how people will behave in a crisis.
United 93.
American Airlines 63.
Northwest Airlines 253.
I dunno...you're unsourced claim seems to hold less water than my unsourced claim.
Citation needed.
I have 2 cites above in favor of passengers (3 if you count 'foiling the plan' and omit 'and live to tell about it') and can find 0 cites in favor of the TSA.
Paper gowns?! Heck no, imagine the paper cuts!
And for a straight jacket, terrorists will simply learn how to dislocate their shoulders.
Is there data you can share that supports this statement?
I wish I had anything concrete. While they claim they've stopped a lot, there's never any name attached, only vague statements. I wager the TSA is chomping at the bit for their first real capture so they can display them on the news and go, "SEE!? We ARE being productive!!"
But instead there's simply crates and crates of confiscated scissors... ( http://www.cockeyed.com/photos/airport/airport.html )
Define weapon.
A tie can be a weapon if one uses it as such.
And I'm still dead if he strangles me with a tie, stabs me with a broken off piece of tray or attacks me with any number of other improvised weapons that are already on planes.
So your argument is "it's better to die from a something not prohibited by the TSA than it is to die from something prohibited?" Either way I'm still dead.
Which results in the bigger question of... "So what?"
So someone brings ninja stars on a 747 and goes on a bloody rampage (or...well...two, three people before everyone in the 5 rows above and behind tie him up with seat belt extenders...)
How different is this from someone taking a tie and strangling the person in front of them? Or breaking off the tray table? Or using any one of a hundred other improvised weapons?
Security theater is not security. There are more cases of passengers stopping lunatics on planes than there are of TSA stopping lunatics from getting on planes.
And you're a pilot who knows this for a fact?
Here: http://www.airliners.net/photo/1190987/L/
Find the "land" button
It's also a catchall. Most accidents are not the result of a single "pilot error." They're the result of MANY small errors that build up, the last piece being the final 'pilot error.'
Take Comair 191 for example, the one that took the short runway. You have two tired pilots, a closed taxi lane, outdated airport charts, a lone controller in the tower. So while, in the end, it was a 'pilot error,' there were issues all over, any one of which could have changed the outcome of the flight.
Yes, if a flight proceeds normally a modern jetliner can pretty much fly itself.
Northwest Flight 188?
Whenever someone mentions how planes can fly themselves these days, I'm reminded Northwest Flight 188: the one that overshot MSP by 150 miles.
Clearly, if planes can fly themselves, it should have landed on its own and not overshot.
US Attorneys General declare "War on Nookie."
Also, this is by following like a bit under 2000 people. There are millions and billions of people they aren't taking into account here.
If they picked their demographic right, that can be a perfectly fine number.
Well, you can't exactly crank out a 20 year study every year...
Apologies, I missed the sarcasm bit. Detector's been going haywaire all week.
Just Senators. Assemblymen were always from the popular vote.
But that didn't change anything logically to elections. It just added a few more names to the ballot every six years.
http://politics.slashdot.org/story/10/05/04/1414201/State-Senator-Caught-Looking-At-Porn-On-Senate-Floor
Explains why there was no party affiliation noted there.
Oh, wait, Bennett's a Republican.
The people who are raising Cain over party affiliation on this article are looking for an axe to grind, a little mud to sling, and a little schaudefreude.
The people who don't simply say, "oh look, another dumbass politician."
In fact, it took the gas prices of the mid 2000s to really bugger up USPS. Largest private fleet, every penny gas went up they'd be out another $2 million. Then tack on the decrease of snail mail, the inability to do the simple things private industry can do unilaterally but for USPS requires an act of Congress (close branches, reduce days of service), and the inability to raise rates above the rate of inflation...
USPS HAS a plan to get in the black...they just can't cause their board (Congress) won't let them.