... Uhm.. google voice just connects to the number you tell it to call and then calls your phone back. It's not VOIP, it doesn't bypass AT&T.. Unless you count for sms, since it sends that over your data connection.
I expect we'll see a "voice, but without the sms part turned on" app... but maybe not, depending on how open google is to compromise.
...other than that these are better documented. Take your clothes off for pictures on your web page, don't be surprised if that is weighed in a hiring process (might work your advantage:)
... I think you forgot where you were posting this. Unless the hiring manager is looking to keep blackmail material on you, I doubt it's going to work to an advantage for most of the people posting on slashdot.
It would be nice if non-free/open source software was forced to become open source when the proposed 5 year term expired, but even without that:
What harm is there to a project that is GPL?
Consider the following example using mysql.
Under the idea of a 5 year copyright, the code that makes up the version released today expires 5 years from now. However, each patch continues to be in copyright from the date it was written. If, in 5 years, someone builds a closed source that includes mysql's now public domain code the product can not include any new features or bug fixes without doing a clean-room reimplementation. This severely limits the over all code's usefulness.
In short, wouldn't it be easier to comply with the License then try to reimplement it all? And if they would rather add things on a 5 year lag, they are going to be behind and probably not be adding much the community would see as being of value.
So it did hinge on the presentation being allowed copyright as a collection.
It also sounds like it would have gone differently if the volumes had been published as individual works instead of, as it sounds, continuing to be a single collected volume.
Also, here we are dealing with an individual work being reproduced into an electronic form, which falls much closer to the Bridgeman case. For instance, if they physcially publish the work, you would still be able to take the text, minus any original work they did (like a foreward by Bezos, as an example), scan it and publish your own copy.
*sigh* Actually, I'm more being redundant to everyone else who has been citing: Bridgeman vs Corel.
Also, I have some personal experience working with software that uses the text of a work you may have heard of, the King James Bible.
It actually is an interesting point because in the US the text is public domain (and therefore scans, etc can be reproduced), while in the UK it falls under crown copyright.
Now, the lawsuit you mention being involved in (a link providing some information about the case would be helpful here) sounds possible, but unlikely. The text would still have remained public domain, even if the presentation (software) surrounding it was held to be copyrightable.
Could they sue me for copying their scanned version?
Yes
WRONG!
We just bloody covered this
In the US reproductions of public domain works are in the public domain. Unlike the previous story there can be no debate over which law (US or UK) applies to this case.
Heck, even if I were to type the text out (or write long hand) the copy would *STILL* be public domain, despite involving far more work.
Please Mod this up. I have not worked for the DOD, but I worked for a Linux vendor that had DOD customers.
This came up all the time, and for the major Linux vendors (SUSE, Red Hat) either a waiver or looking at a "We're running RHEL/SLES X with updates" type blanket exception was the best solution.
Hence, liking the idea. The practice never works out quite as well as intended.
Not wanting everyone to have access to health care they need is cold-hearted. But so is providing everyone with the same shitty care that doesn't help.
Hrm. those people would probably argue it fits in there somewhere around "Establish Justice" or "Promote the general welfare"..
Personally.. I like the *idea* of everyone being able to get the same access to health care and education..I just hate the idea of the gov't trying to provide it, considering how well they do at everything else.
I might get labeled as flamebait for this one, but:
If you don't like the update/package management, maybe you should try a different distro with a different package management?
I'd personally suggest an rpm based distro like Fedora or Suse. I've used both.deb based and.rpm based and find that I much prefer rpm. Some people like.deb much better, but I find that Fedora and Suse were easier to maintain.
Yes, it's still possible to get into dependency hell, but lately I've been able to find yum repositories that "Just Work" for most things I want on my system.
(As an aside to your complaint about sudo.. Are you running as an admin account on Windows? It's "much easier" to install things on Linux if you run as root too.. I just don't think anyone would advise you to do it.:)
I would say set up a SVN server but for each pair? And there goes complexity although I found TortoiseSVN to be very simple. It's great experience for them to work with a source control system though.
I find SVN pretty easy to use for just about anything that's plain text. Also, you don't need one for each pair. Honestly a main tree with a "branch" for each pair should be plenty.
If these are going to be one file projects (likely) and you don't care if everyone can see/modify everyone else's project (unlikely) why not make a Wiki with ground rules? Just put your code up on you and your partner's page and the whole history is right there.
Uhm, if it's in svn there's no real reason to keep them from being able to see it. If cheating is your concern (on a project that involves creativity, if it's basic simple stuff or "from the book".. who cares) svn gives you the ability to easily compare code. Also, if someone purposefully overwrites someone elses project branch, you simply revert that change, and punish the student. (Accidents may happen, but if someone does bad things to someone else's project on purpose... an F and/or expulsion is probably called for).
Ah, but you disclosed a relationship with them.. You first need to go "Carl Jr's is great" without disclosing it's brought to you by said company. Then the FTC investigates, and then you can try and get compensation....
Wait.. something here still seems backward.
Unless they fired the admin who knows anything, or are half-deaf and trying it out for the first time, or never use the command line but now have to because the X-windows, she no start.
I cut my teeth at Red Hat, all of the above happened to me at one point or another.
...Have you ever spent time on the phones doing tech support?
I've had conversations where relaying the command "cd" took 15 minutes. "ok I need you to cd/etc, that's c as in charlie" "b as in boy?" "no, c as in charlie" "b as in boy?" "no, c as in cookie".
After a few go arounds of "c as in cookie" my cubemate started going "is good enough for me".
now "the tech will know the prefix" doesn't help. What are you going to do? "I only need the last two sets of digits between the colons?" It won't help. People don't deal well with "the computer is down" in the first place, much less when they have to read out crap that doesn't make sense. Numbers are easy, numbers mixed with letters... you're just going to further alienate users and have to hide it deeper to make it "friendly".
It's slightly worse. It's more like the phone company going "we can only handle phone numbers from (000)000-0000 to (255)255-2555" and instead of going "Hey.. let's try making go up to (999) 999-9999 and maintain the pattern everyone knows, or even say adding another set of numbers to make 255(255)255-2555 available, let's change it all up into some long string people can only half pronounce and you have to be a telephone repairman to understand... your new phone number is now ab823:fff::324223 and your neighbor is ab823:fff:731:823:324223". Can you imagine the confusion?
I never liked ipv6 is you end up with addresses like 2001:0db8:85a3:0000:0000:8a2e:0370:7334 that can also be written as 2001:db8:85a3::8a2e:370:7334.
Trying to get "what's your ip address?" when doing telephone technical support is going to be nightmarish. Not just from the fact it's now a long hex string, but also from a complete lack of understanding by users, much less some level 1's I've dealt with.
Heck, just try diagnosing a user who "can't get to the internet" and it turns out to be a wrong dns server entry. It's hard enough to get them to go to google's ip now.
... Darl, is that you?
Seriously, I don't mean to feed the troll, but I don't see any bullying of the "IT press". Unless you mean Maureen O'Gara.. but I remember reading her crap from before SCO and thinking she was a muck-raker. I was rather worried when the SCO thing first came out, but they never produced any solid evidence. The "SCO may not own the copyright" bit aside, they never actually gave any bits that were copied.
They also then proceeded to try and sell everyone who runs Linux a "license" and threatened to sue you if not, while trying to distribute the unmodified kernel under the GPL! And we're not talking about suing IBM or Red Hat (or even Novell, again, copyright issues aside), they wanted money from everyone running a server, a desktop, or an embedded device.
Agreed. I had chronic stomach issues for several years (throwing up, being unable to keep much down). I had doctors who would just treat it as if it were a stomach bug, or the flu, or acid reflux. I would feel better in a couple weeks, and continue to feel better for a couple months.
A few years into all of this, I spent a week being unable to really process any food and finally got sent to a G-I specialist. Apparently I had a Volvulous (sp? basically, one intestine had wrapped around another, causing blockage) and needed surgery NOW or I would probably die.
Please, doctors listen when a patient says "This keeps happening to me".
I can't believe the biggest focus out of all this is on the "evolution" (or whatever) of their anti-virus, with little mention of the end of the Money product line.
I feel for all the people who have been locked in to MS money, like the one in the article. Hopefully it will drive him to open source... however I haven't really been able to find a good alternative to Money and/or Quicken for Home/SMB finance.. any suggestions?
There was a student dozing off in a class in college and the professor makes the remark that the Sun will one day go out, but this will probably not happen for at least a billion years.
The student wakes up suddenly with a panicked look and asks the professor to repeat his statement.
The professor does so, and the student says "Whew. I thought you said a million years."
I can't seem to bring myself to worry, either way.
It's got to be better then typing on my cellphone.
T9 or other predictive texts only help if you and the cell phone know how to spell the word you want.
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... Uhm.. google voice just connects to the number you tell it to call and then calls your phone back. It's not VOIP, it doesn't bypass AT&T..
Unless you count for sms, since it sends that over your data connection.
I expect we'll see a "voice, but without the sms part turned on" app... but maybe not, depending on how open google is to compromise.
When asked for comment, Ballmer said: Developers, developers, developers... will be leaving leaving leaving apple apple apple.
...other than that these are better documented. Take your clothes off for pictures on your web page, don't be surprised if that is weighed in a hiring process (might work your advantage :)
... I think you forgot where you were posting this. Unless the hiring manager is looking to keep blackmail material on you, I doubt it's going to work to an advantage for most of the people posting on slashdot.
It would be nice if non-free/open source software was forced to become open source when the proposed 5 year term expired, but even without that:
What harm is there to a project that is GPL?
Consider the following example using mysql. Under the idea of a 5 year copyright, the code that makes up the version released today expires 5 years from now. However, each patch continues to be in copyright from the date it was written. If, in 5 years, someone builds a closed source that includes mysql's now public domain code the product can not include any new features or bug fixes without doing a clean-room reimplementation. This severely limits the over all code's usefulness.
In short, wouldn't it be easier to comply with the License then try to reimplement it all? And if they would rather add things on a 5 year lag, they are going to be behind and probably not be adding much the community would see as being of value.
So it did hinge on the presentation being allowed copyright as a collection.
It also sounds like it would have gone differently if the volumes had been published as individual works instead of, as it sounds, continuing to be a single collected volume.
Also, here we are dealing with an individual work being reproduced into an electronic form, which falls much closer to the Bridgeman case. For instance, if they physcially publish the work, you would still be able to take the text, minus any original work they did (like a foreward by Bezos, as an example), scan it and publish your own copy.
*sigh* Actually, I'm more being redundant to everyone else who has been citing: Bridgeman vs Corel.
Also, I have some personal experience working with software that uses the text of a work you may have heard of, the King James Bible.
It actually is an interesting point because in the US the text is public domain (and therefore scans, etc can be reproduced), while in the UK it falls under crown copyright.
Now, the lawsuit you mention being involved in (a link providing some information about the case would be helpful here) sounds possible, but unlikely. The text would still have remained public domain, even if the presentation (software) surrounding it was held to be copyrightable.
>
Do they own the "scan". Can they copyright that?
yes
Could they sue me for copying their scanned version?
Yes
WRONG! We just bloody covered this
In the US reproductions of public domain works are in the public domain. Unlike the previous story there can be no debate over which law (US or UK) applies to this case.
Heck, even if I were to type the text out (or write long hand) the copy would *STILL* be public domain, despite involving far more work.
Please Mod this up. I have not worked for the DOD, but I worked for a Linux vendor that had DOD customers.
This came up all the time, and for the major Linux vendors (SUSE, Red Hat) either a waiver or looking at a "We're running RHEL/SLES X with updates" type blanket exception was the best solution.
Hence, liking the idea. The practice never works out quite as well as intended. Not wanting everyone to have access to health care they need is cold-hearted. But so is providing everyone with the same shitty care that doesn't help.
Hrm. those people would probably argue it fits in there somewhere around "Establish Justice" or "Promote the general welfare"..
Personally.. I like the *idea* of everyone being able to get the same access to health care and education..I just hate the idea of the gov't trying to provide it, considering how well they do at everything else.
I did, until they met the MPAA/RIAA's boomstick.
I might get labeled as flamebait for this one, but:
.deb based and .rpm based and find that I much prefer rpm. Some people like .deb much better, but I find that Fedora and Suse were easier to maintain.
:)
If you don't like the update/package management, maybe you should try a different distro with a different package management?
I'd personally suggest an rpm based distro like Fedora or Suse. I've used both
Yes, it's still possible to get into dependency hell, but lately I've been able to find yum repositories that "Just Work" for most things I want on my system.
(As an aside to your complaint about sudo.. Are you running as an admin account on Windows? It's "much easier" to install things on Linux if you run as root too.. I just don't think anyone would advise you to do it.
I would say set up a SVN server but for each pair? And there goes complexity although I found TortoiseSVN to be very simple. It's great experience for them to work with a source control system though.
I find SVN pretty easy to use for just about anything that's plain text. Also, you don't need one for each pair. Honestly a main tree with a "branch" for each pair should be plenty.
If these are going to be one file projects (likely) and you don't care if everyone can see/modify everyone else's project (unlikely) why not make a Wiki with ground rules? Just put your code up on you and your partner's page and the whole history is right there.
Uhm, if it's in svn there's no real reason to keep them from being able to see it. If cheating is your concern (on a project that involves creativity, if it's basic simple stuff or "from the book".. who cares) svn gives you the ability to easily compare code. Also, if someone purposefully overwrites someone elses project branch, you simply revert that change, and punish the student. (Accidents may happen, but if someone does bad things to someone else's project on purpose... an F and/or expulsion is probably called for).
On-screen, of course.
Ah, but you disclosed a relationship with them.. You first need to go "Carl Jr's is great" without disclosing it's brought to you by said company. Then the FTC investigates, and then you can try and get compensation....
Wait.. something here still seems backward.
Unless they fired the admin who knows anything, or are half-deaf and trying it out for the first time, or never use the command line but now have to because the X-windows, she no start.
I cut my teeth at Red Hat, all of the above happened to me at one point or another.
...Have you ever spent time on the phones doing tech support?
/etc, that's c as in charlie" "b as in boy?" "no, c as in charlie" "b as in boy?" "no, c as in cookie".
I've had conversations where relaying the command "cd" took 15 minutes. "ok I need you to cd
After a few go arounds of "c as in cookie" my cubemate started going "is good enough for me".
now "the tech will know the prefix" doesn't help. What are you going to do? "I only need the last two sets of digits between the colons?" It won't help. People don't deal well with "the computer is down" in the first place, much less when they have to read out crap that doesn't make sense. Numbers are easy, numbers mixed with letters... you're just going to further alienate users and have to hide it deeper to make it "friendly".
It's slightly worse. It's more like the phone company going "we can only handle phone numbers from (000)000-0000 to (255)255-2555" and instead of going "Hey.. let's try making go up to (999) 999-9999 and maintain the pattern everyone knows, or even say adding another set of numbers to make 255(255)255-2555 available, let's change it all up into some long string people can only half pronounce and you have to be a telephone repairman to understand... your new phone number is now ab823:fff::324223 and your neighbor is ab823:fff:731:823:324223". Can you imagine the confusion?
I never liked ipv6 is you end up with addresses like 2001:0db8:85a3:0000:0000:8a2e:0370:7334 that can also be written as 2001:db8:85a3::8a2e:370:7334. Trying to get "what's your ip address?" when doing telephone technical support is going to be nightmarish. Not just from the fact it's now a long hex string, but also from a complete lack of understanding by users, much less some level 1's I've dealt with.
Heck, just try diagnosing a user who "can't get to the internet" and it turns out to be a wrong dns server entry. It's hard enough to get them to go to google's ip now.
... Darl, is that you?
Seriously, I don't mean to feed the troll, but I don't see any bullying of the "IT press". Unless you mean Maureen O'Gara.. but I remember reading her crap from before SCO and thinking she was a muck-raker. I was rather worried when the SCO thing first came out, but they never produced any solid evidence. The "SCO may not own the copyright" bit aside, they never actually gave any bits that were copied.
They also then proceeded to try and sell everyone who runs Linux a "license" and threatened to sue you if not, while trying to distribute the unmodified kernel under the GPL! And we're not talking about suing IBM or Red Hat (or even Novell, again, copyright issues aside), they wanted money from everyone running a server, a desktop, or an embedded device.
Who Tried to bully whom here, exactly?
Agreed. I had chronic stomach issues for several years (throwing up, being unable to keep much down). I had doctors who would just treat it as if it were a stomach bug, or the flu, or acid reflux. I would feel better in a couple weeks, and continue to feel better for a couple months.
A few years into all of this, I spent a week being unable to really process any food and finally got sent to a G-I specialist. Apparently I had a Volvulous (sp? basically, one intestine had wrapped around another, causing blockage) and needed surgery NOW or I would probably die.
Please, doctors listen when a patient says "This keeps happening to me".
I can't believe the biggest focus out of all this is on the "evolution" (or whatever) of their anti-virus, with little mention of the end of the Money product line.
I feel for all the people who have been locked in to MS money, like the one in the article. Hopefully it will drive him to open source... however I haven't really been able to find a good alternative to Money and/or Quicken for Home/SMB finance.. any suggestions?
There was a student dozing off in a class in college and the professor makes the remark that the Sun will one day go out, but this will probably not happen for at least a billion years.
The student wakes up suddenly with a panicked look and asks the professor to repeat his statement.
The professor does so, and the student says "Whew. I thought you said a million years."
I can't seem to bring myself to worry, either way.
It's got to be better then typing on my cellphone. T9 or other predictive texts only help if you and the cell phone know how to spell the word you want.
Somewhere around $4.35 for a mallard, unless you buy in bulk.
Google, helping me be a smart ass since 1998.
FanFic? Heck, with text to speech you can stop calling those 900 numbers!