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Reasons To Hesitate On Zer01's Unlimited Mobile Offer
alphadogg writes with an excerpt from Network World that might save you some money: "Imagine downloading a two-hour HD movie in three minutes to your new cell phone, then plugging the phone into your TV to watch the film. Make unlimited phone calls, surf online as much as you like and send unlimited text messaging for $70 a month, without a contract. Sign up to sell the same service to other people and get $10 a month for each person you sell to.
That's what a group of related companies including Zer01 Mobile, Buzzirk, Global Verge and Unified Technologies Group are promoting heavily online and at industry trade shows. The offer is attractive enough to garner coverage in top business and technology publications, at least one positive review from an analyst and even a 'best in show' award from a magazine at the CTIA wireless industry trade show earlier this year. Does it all sound too good to be true? If so, that's because it probably is. What little information is available about the services is technically inconsistent, and doesn't match up with public records."
They had me at pyramid scheme.
Surely email has taught us that we can absolutely trust anything offered for sale by someone u51Ng 1337 sp34k! Shame on you.
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They want to speak with someone over at Zer01, something about "exceeding sane limitations of the electromagnetic spectrum".
An HD movie in 3 minutes? Even if they are calling "480p" HD, there is no way in hell that is transfering wirelessly in 3 minutes to a cellular device.
Trying to sign everyone up as a sales associate just proves it is a scam.
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From TFA
One key player in the network of companies is Mark Petschel. He's the CEO of Global Verge, the multilevel marketing firm...
Whenever MLM (multi-level-marketing) rears its ugly head, that's a good sign for me to avoid company like the plague.
i thought companies were trustworthy honest people, they would never lie to us
Someday we'll hit the human carrying capacity. And the band will just play on.
That makes it multi-level-marketing (read: "legal pyramid scheme"), which should be an instant clue to anyone to avoid it.
Also, reading the article, it's a $70 initial fee to do the MLM part, and $40 monthly fee, which means if you sign up 5 people, it will take 7 months to break even.
You can probably make money faster by picking up loose change.
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At least it would have been if I wasn't using Zer01's service.
welcome our new A.I. overlords, and look forward to jacking into the Matrix.
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I mean, Comcast used to let me call this actual American person that would order a movie for me... I usually got the person because I owed them money, but then she'd put my film order in...
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$80 isn't exactly a screaming deal.
However, it would be nice to tether one of these up as opposed to Verizon or Sprints 5 GB a month bandwidth limit.
It sounds like all this guy does is set up ponzi schemes and then the state shuts him down, the circuit court rules that he must pay fines, but all he does is move on to the next ponzi.
So, where do I sign up and give him my $70?
Do we also get access to their warehouse of super-low-priced items but for a 1000%-off discount if we refer 10 people too? I read the article up until the part where it is revealed that one of the masterminds behind this sch-- operation was recently convicted of fraud.
Does this remind anyone else of the phantom. An electronic device that sounds too good to be true gathering investment money, the people who were supposed to be developing the thing have "offices" which are not really there.
Of course in this case, one of the guys involved already has a record. At least with the phantom no one was outed as a known fraudster beforehand.
I'm guessing that in 10 years, Zer01 will come out with a handy device to hold your phone up to your ear for you.
How, on the one hand, society makes it ever harder to escape your past(even shit entry level jobs can come with background and credit checks, never mind trying to get cleared, or the whole sex offender registry thing) while, somehow, certain people just seem to float right through, skipping from one scam to another, seemingly impervious.
I wonder how it works. Is it the charm that sociopaths are known for that allows certain people to do it? Are the rules different in certain areas? Are most of the barriers actually illusory/psychological? Why doesn't an attempt to legally incorporate a new business include a "do any of your officers have a background in crime, particularly white collar crime?" check?
Just throw the CEO in jail already...
Enzyte, despite the conviction of the founder and his mom for fraud, is still in business. They are still heavily advertising on TV, and apparently they are expanding and hiring. So there doing quite well for a company whose business model was proven unlawful in court.
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
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Is this one of those multi-level marketing (a.k.a. pyramid) schemes? I cannot WAIT for my neighbor with the jacked up Humvee to scrape the "MONA VIE" crap off his back windshield and replace it with a bunch of l33t h4x0r jargon. :-)
And yet he's out-and-about, which makes little sense to me. Probation should mean that he has a PO, has to make regular reports, and at least is under some scrutiny to ensure he doesn't pull the same crap again. Seems like nobody's paying attention though.
You can have a two hour movie at 1080p resolution in 1Mb of data if you're not too fussy about image quality.
Resolution is one thing, bitrate is something else.
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Interesting that he can get salespeople to pay him to work for him. All that crap they taught me in school about wages and salary obviously was backwards.
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In the mid 1990s there was a multilevel marketing company called:LOCALNET. It claimed to have the technology to push high speed internet and broadcast quality video through ANALOGUE phone lines! No DSL needed! Big names were involved. The technology was never released. A lot good people were burned. There were stories that the demos of the technology were rigged from the start
You don't want me to sign up so that when it turns out to be AWESOME later on, you can get 10$/mo for referring me.
I'm on to your scheme, I WILL BUY A DOZEN!
He's not selling to technical people who can do the math.
He's selling to people who will hear the pitch and think, "Holy shit, people will line up around the block to get HD movies on their cell and plug it into their TV! I've GOT to invest in this right now, and get in on the ground floor."
Look at what he's got already: postive reviews, awards, and a front page on /. I guarantee you that the next rounds of adverts in an investment magazine will have these awards highlighted.
"Holy shit, not only is this a great-sounding idea, but it's won a CTIA award. It's... fucking legitimate! Cut this guy a cheque, and do it before some other asshole does!"
The system requires travelling to other dimensions with different physics in order to work, but other than that, it's a great idea.
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Rarely do fake pyramid scam companies collect real income in a recession with the increasing number of sufficient savvy consumers increasing. Therefore they must get their employees to pay the company instead of paying their employees. Its a law of reverse proportions scams (I made that law up).
Step 1 Create fake miracle product.
Step 2 Hire employees as product advocates swearing by the awesome majesty of imaginary hardware/service.
Step 3 Convince employees to pay employer instead of being paid themselves.
Step 4 PROFIT!!!!!!!!!! and Create a new identity to hide from the multi-state angry mob of rightfully vengeful customers.
Oh great. You had to do it didn't you? You've just provided them a citable reference that they can use to claim "Out of this world service".
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Fundraising organizations that help schools, churches, etc raise money for projects are equally as bad as MLM. They are essentially getting FREE labor, and not paying into Social Security, Medicare, providing benefits or anything. Many times the schools have to pay up front for a certain amount of product, and if they don't sell it they are stuck with it. There is almost no risk for the fundraising organization while the school or Church or whatever shoulders most of the risk or shares the risk with the parents of the underage labor pool. Meanwhile, the corporate campuses of some of these outfits are just insanely lavish and huge. Their only real cost of business is sending people out to beat the drums at the schools and churches.
If you are not allowed to question your government then the government has answered your question.
Cut me a cheque. I have the patent for downloading movies to you cell and displaying on you TV. If you don't beleive me call the US Patent Office and have them look up and verify pantie: 10000293747995500
I already give all my money to Amway Global :(
But it won't help you a bit without a network infrastructure thate Zer01 simply don't have. You can't use AT&T's network, which is barely 3G and get 4G speeds.
That's all well and good, but they'll need to site a source, too;
"It's a great idea. Out of this world service!"
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What I don't get is how does:
"Make unlimited phone calls, surf online as much as you like and send unlimited text messaging for $70 a month, without a contract. Sign up to sell the same service to other people and get $10 a month for each person you sell to."
Not immediately set off SCAM alarms for people? Honestly, anyone taken in by this deserves to lose their money. Good for them for coming up with a neat scheme to fleece a bunch of morons of their money.
Cricket Wireless is similar, established, and without the pyramid deal. Their service is splotchy at best outside of urban areas. But $40 for unlimited wireless via USB, or $35 for unlimited long distance and text. My understanding is they buy obsolete towers from other companies, and work on older networks with older phones. Still, $35 unlimited everything beats the hell out of the fully nationwide providers, if you tend not to travel across rural areas.
I guess I shouldn't have omitted the tag.
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Insert "" before tag. That failcomment deserves a -1 troll I guess.
Note to whoever modded me troll: the first sentence is supposed to sound like it describes zer01, then the joke is that I pretend to be an idiot and imply I think the article is the scam, while the company is legit. Note the sig- I often go for humor. I'll admit not all my jokes are worth modding up, but the closest I get to trolling is a bad joke. My karma can take it, but mod points are better used on modding up or finding real trolls.
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