Stupid moderator.. I've been using the GPL-ed drivers on my Abit BP6 since November, works like a charm. You can also use ALSA, also works nice on my smp-rig, so you can even choose! So, what: "When does Creative releases it's SMP SB Live! drivers"?!! Just my 3 eurocents,
Ouch, so the Raite (and whatever names it uses) is a real challenger from the Apex.. Hmm, I was a bit doubting about the Apex, but the functionality and menus looked quite similar.. (SuperVCD, VCD, MP3, CD, DVD etc..) Ah well, watch my.sig
It's a Chinese company, Waisun Industrial Co.Ltd who produces this beasts goes under multiple names: Apex, Raite , Yamakawa, Kiss, Hoyo and Monyka. So, don't be suprised to see identical beasts, under various names..
Also, this beast plays: *SuperVCD*,*VCD*,MP3,CD & DVD.
Besides Circuit City it is also sold at Fry's (California?) going under the name Raite AVPhile 715 for $149,- (Different casing + optical output) The Ugeek review of the Apex 600A is over here A real geek review, can be found over here Also A good French site A German one
Some firmwares can be obtained from the next German site
I think a good geek, knows his way to Babelfish, so have fun...
P.s. The European distributor, is ABC Comp in Germany, I'm gonna try to find out, where I can buy this unit in Europe, for a decent price..,
Okay, but how about your program "exiting normally", trowing you in a virtual (striped down) bash shell, that allows you to su to root while logging keyboard input and next start a thread/child whatever.. with root rights to do it's thing?
The real problem starts, if these virii starts manipulating startup scripts or host.* etc.. and making your system act like, say, it's been BackOrificed.. Especially since *nux default remote control abilities are much more powerfull than other OS-es...
Just my 2 no 3 eurocents (devaluation, you know..)
Tried forwarding the port already with ipmasqadm and the autofw module? Also check this great ipmasq site for the right ports and stuff (unreplacable!): http://www.tsmservices.com/masq/
Corel is great, Corel is not only a hype, Corel is easy to install, Corel install has a great partitioning tool, the download version of Corel is really a full package, after Corel had finished I wondered: Okay and when are we going to start installing hardware? Turned out it had already done that part...
rm s/corel/mandrake
p.s. While you prenounce Mandrake as "Correll" you write Mandrake7, cappice? And all the media-hype about "Correll" is true, besides the tiny mistake, that they keep saying it's a Canadian compagny, while it is French ofcourse..
When I think about the average die hard Linux user this is the next image I visual: Male, in his 20-ish, likes abstract reasoning, analytical, doing (or having done) some kind of technical study. This seems like the ideal person to play every once in a while a strategy game, if time permits. The ideal compagny for strategy games, would be a compagny like Westwood, altough I like some games from Cavedog or Activision as well. (Civ Call to Power or Myst2 I don't call strategy). How come there are no Linux ports of their games yet and are you familiar with any plans from them making such a move?
Exactly, under Windows you also need to install 3DFX drivers & miniport,turbodrivers or AGP-miniport drivers for your card. Also you need to install your 2D video drivers correctly for a game to work and install the latest DirectX, Direct3D, DirectMedia and what ever get's Direct-ed.
This has nothing do with a game working straight out of the box. (Remember getting Unreal (1) to work under Windows properly? Now that's a game that didn't work from the box)
Moderation (as in removal of postings) seems an evil thing, limiting freedom of speech..
But seeing all these postings here, which clearly shows disrespect towards other people in general, really sadness me..
1) If you are a teenager doesn't give you an excuse to react childish and un-adolescent. 2) You might not agree, dislike or not understand what "being gay" is about, and maybe Dave 'Zoid' Kirsch is gay and maybe he's not the slimmest person on earth (neither am I), it doesn't give you the right to insult and yes, I might even say, hurt someone with these flames concerning this subject. Maybe the persons who reacted most fiercly on this subject are the ones who are having the most personal problems with sexuality. Linking being gay to AIDS is an evil thing also.. Sure, it is quite known gays take more risks if it comes to making unproctected love, but if you look at AIDS in general, more straight people are hit by this decease than gays and dieing of AIDS is horrible thing..
I myself am straight, but the only reason why I mention this, is because if you would say to me "You big fat gay, shut up' you would not greeve me as much as when you would be saying that towards a gay person with weight problems (common problem amongst programmers). Gays are sensitive people you know and you know what, they even got feelings!
Now back to the topic.. This moderation thing is causing me to get headaches, should we or shouldn't we moderate?
I myself can say, that I haven't used my moderation rights a couple of times already, because I really was put off by stupids posts like you can find a lot on this article.. This is not right.. We don't like people to control freedom of speech etc.. but do these anonymous cowards ever brought us any good? If I recall it right, some stupid ACs where even quoted in the CSS-case as representing the average/. people..
Just my personal vendetta, for euronet.nl selling the bandwidth I payed for 1 year in advance, for free under wanadoo.nl (the upstream from S1-0-0.mae-east.us.euro.net to asd-bfr.euro.net still sucks, no matter how much excuses) You can't give away that which you don't own.. (bandwidth)
Just some instructions to get distros running with unpatched kernels:
RedHat6.0 Hedwig B doesn't support installing onto devices higher that /dev/hdd I just assume they fix that in 6.1, but just turn off your on board controllers for now, to be sure.. First boot with an emergency disk..
Next run lspci -b -v for something that says "unknown mass storage controller"
lspci -b -v
00:13.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366 (rev01) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 120, IRQ 11 I/O ports at b800 I/O ports at bc00 I/O ports at c000 Expansion ROM at ed000000
00:13.1 Unknown mass storage controller: Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366 (rev 01) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 120, IRQ 11 I/O ports at c400 I/O ports at c800 I/O ports at cc00
Now you see 3 lines filled with adresses, You only need the first two adresses of each channel.
Now I assume your hd is on the primary channel of the thing as master(stand-alone).. Look for the first two lines of adresses and (after the 'I/O at ') and note them down.. So in my case 0xb800 and 0xbc00
RedHat 6.0: Next put boot from your RH setup floppy/cd and at boot type: linux ide0=0xb800,0xbc00 and hit enter
Okay, now you can install RedHat.. (assuming your cd player resides on/dev/hdc,/dev/hdd)
After installing RedHat, append this to your lilo.conf, For example: append "ide0=0xb800,0xbc00"
This is part of my Lilo.conf
#Red Hat 6 image =/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.5-22 append = "ide2=0xb800,0xbc00 ide3=0xc400,0xc800" #append = "ide2=ata66" root =/dev/hde3 label = Linux alias = l
Now run lilo and you are set.. You can now use your RedHat install, but your HD will only run in PIO mode not in ata66 (dma mode)
! It won't work if you got other hd's, if you can't change the booting sequence in the BIOS.
Mandrake 7.0: Next put boot from your Mandrake 7 setup floppy/cd and at boot type: linux ide2=0xb800,0xbc00 and hit enter make sure to add ide3= also at boot if you use the secundary (quartiary channel also) Okay, now you can install Mandrake.. Next time you'll boot, Mandrake has set up everything so you are ready now,
Next: If so, you'll need to boot from/dev/hda! Just to be sure it works okay, create a partition on your 1st hd (/dev/hda) of say 10mb (located *beneath* the 1024 cylinder boundary!) and mount it under/boot. Change boot=/dev/hdaX accordingly..
Also, using the option pci=reverse (to reverse scanning of PCI devices, in order to boot your hpt366 1st (as many sites advice), will break the current SB Live! detection routines, if you use such a card..
Welcome to Linux...
MBr
Also check: http://www.nl.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/h edrick/ or http://www.kernel.dk (The Hedrick IDE patch doesn't work okay on my system, tried it since august'99, but mounting my DVD on/dev/hdg will lock my kernel (2.2.14) )
Be sure to upgrade hdparm first and do NOT use -d 1 (enable dma) and -c 1 (enable 32bit transfer) because it will crash your machine..
p.s. Isn't the SB Live! Distro called Linux Corel 2.0? Hehe.. (I prefere SuSE6.3 or Mandrake 7 however)
Running a bp6 myself. Several users reported stray interrupts that occure sometimes with this board, it is unclear to me if this is caused by the celeron smp workaround being flacky, the ever BetaBIOS with its troubles or, what is, more likely, the overclocking people are doing.. One advice, start limiting PCI-bus speeds to less_or_equal 33Mhz. 37,5 or 43Mhz is quite common tried, but very unwise..
# Makefile for Vortex au88xx driver # # Copyright (c) 1999 Aureal Inc. # # Environment: # AUCHIP - AU8830 (default), AU8820, or AU8810 # # This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify # it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by # the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or # (at your option) any later version.
The faq on the linux.aureal.com webpage:
Is the source code to the driver available? How about chip specifications?
The current driver distribution contains both source and object files. Access to Vortex hardware is provided by object files, while the code that interfaces to the Linux kernel is provided in source form. This allows the driver to be recompiled by the customer to support new kernel distributions. We are working on a full source distribution of the driver including chip documentation.
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't this make the future source code release GPL-ed too?
-- /* Manuël Beunder, web master of the Linux SB Live! page: http://www.euronet.nl/~mailme
According to Alan Cox it progressing nicely, but it won't be part of the kernel before 2.4.xx (It's not part of 2.3.xx yet also).. --/* Manuël Beunder, web master of the Linux SB Live! page: http://www.euronet.nl/~mailme .
I just had a quick look at their site, but it looks like Aureal is going to release the source code later as well, besides the partially binaries they've now released..
Would be nice if the turbo driver would run on a Celeron though... (Yes, I use win98 for occasionally playing a game, can't buy any Linux games over here anyway, tried to buy Linux Q3a at on shop that is specialiced in games and always imports them from The States, so that I've got it sooner than anyone else, replied: "No way, I'm not going to order Linux games, out of the question.." Well really nice.. I'm off to LokiGames, making use of my creditcard for a change (only 1/100 or 1000 people has one over here, I think.)
Finally went to have a look who this 'Natalie Portman' figure is (Nevah saw StarWars, I'm a Trekkie) Jeez man, see looks just like the girl across the street.. If you like her so much, why don't you just date 'the girl across the street' and stop undressing Barbie dolls..
"Thirdly, price. The.18 micron technology is hard to produce, and I've heard reports that Sony is having a hard time churning out enough chips."
Err, how 'bout this, afaik, the chip production processes are developed by Philips and they seem to know their way around with chips.. Don't think that'll be a problem..
Slashdot Mirror
Ah so it are 'fingerprints'....
Maybe time for them to release the final stable release..
Stupid moderator.. I've been using the GPL-ed drivers on my Abit BP6 since November, works like a charm. You can also use ALSA, also works nice on my smp-rig, so you can even choose! So, what: "When does Creative releases it's SMP SB Live! drivers"?!! Just my 3 eurocents,
Ouch, so the Raite (and whatever names it uses) .sig
is a real challenger from the Apex..
Hmm, I was a bit doubting about the Apex, but the functionality and menus looked quite similar..
(SuperVCD, VCD, MP3, CD, DVD etc..)
Ah well, watch my
It's a Chinese company, Waisun Industrial Co.Ltd who produces this beasts goes under multiple names: Apex, Raite , Yamakawa, Kiss, Hoyo and Monyka. So, don't be suprised to see identical beasts, under various names..
Also, this beast plays: *SuperVCD*,*VCD*,MP3,CD & DVD.
Besides Circuit City it is also sold at Fry's (California?) going under the name Raite AVPhile 715 for $149,- (Different casing + optical output)
The Ugeek review of the Apex 600A is over here
A real geek review, can be found over here
Also A good French site
A German one
Some firmwares can be obtained from the next German site
I think a good geek, knows his way to Babelfish, so have fun...
P.s. The European distributor, is ABC Comp in Germany, I'm gonna try to find out, where I can buy this unit in Europe, for a decent price..,
Okay, but how about your program "exiting normally", trowing you in a virtual (striped down) bash shell, that allows you to su to root while logging keyboard input and next start a thread/child whatever.. with root rights to do it's thing?
The real problem starts, if these virii starts manipulating startup scripts or host.* etc.. and making your system act like, say, it's been BackOrificed..
Especially since *nux default remote control abilities are much more powerfull than other OS-es...
Just my 2 no 3 eurocents (devaluation, you know..)
Tried forwarding the port already with ipmasqadm
and the autofw module?
Also check this great ipmasq site for the right ports and stuff (unreplacable!): http://www.tsmservices.com/masq/
s/corel/mandrake
Corel is great, Corel is not only a hype, Corel is easy to install, Corel install has a great partitioning tool, the download version of Corel is really a full package, after Corel had finished I wondered: Okay and when are we going to start installing hardware? Turned out it had already done that part...
rm s/corel/mandrake
p.s.
While you prenounce Mandrake as "Correll" you write Mandrake7, cappice? And all the media-hype
about "Correll" is true, besides the tiny mistake,
that they keep saying it's a Canadian compagny, while it is French ofcourse..
When I think about the average die hard Linux user this is the next image I visual: Male, in his 20-ish, likes abstract reasoning, analytical, doing (or having done) some kind of technical study. This seems like the ideal person to play every once in a while a strategy game, if time permits.
The ideal compagny for strategy games, would be a compagny like Westwood, altough I like some games from Cavedog or Activision as well.
(Civ Call to Power or Myst2 I don't call strategy).
How come there are no Linux ports of their games yet and are you familiar with any plans from them making such a move?
Exactly, under Windows you also need to install 3DFX drivers & miniport,turbodrivers or AGP-miniport drivers for your card. Also you need to install your 2D video drivers correctly for a game to work and install the latest DirectX, Direct3D, DirectMedia and what ever get's Direct-ed.
This has nothing do with a game working straight out of the box. (Remember getting Unreal (1) to work under Windows properly? Now that's a game that didn't work from the box)
Moderation (as in removal of postings) seems an evil thing, limiting freedom of speech..
/. people..
But seeing all these postings here, which clearly shows disrespect towards other people in general, really sadness me..
1) If you are a teenager doesn't give you an excuse to react childish and un-adolescent.
2) You might not agree, dislike or not understand what "being gay" is about, and maybe Dave 'Zoid' Kirsch is gay and maybe he's not the slimmest person on earth (neither am I), it doesn't give you the right to insult and yes, I might even say, hurt someone with these flames concerning this subject.
Maybe the persons who reacted most fiercly on this subject are the ones who are having the most personal problems with sexuality.
Linking being gay to AIDS is an evil thing also..
Sure, it is quite known gays take more risks if it comes to making unproctected love, but if you look at AIDS in general, more straight people are hit by this decease than gays and dieing of AIDS is horrible thing..
I myself am straight, but the only reason why I mention this, is because if you would say to me "You big fat gay, shut up' you would not greeve me as much as when you would be saying that towards a gay person with weight problems (common problem amongst programmers). Gays are sensitive people you know and you know what, they even got feelings!
Now back to the topic..
This moderation thing is causing me to get headaches, should we or shouldn't we moderate?
I myself can say, that I haven't used my moderation rights a couple of times already, because I really was put off by stupids posts like you can find a lot on this article..
This is not right..
We don't like people to control freedom of speech etc.. but do these anonymous cowards ever brought us any good? If I recall it right, some stupid ACs where even quoted in the CSS-case as representing the average
Just my 2 eurocents..
Printing? Ever heard of email?
http://home.wanadoo.nl/whatdoya/QuakeLives , Just in case the others get /...ed http://home.wanadoo.nl/whatdoya/css is still up as always..
Just my personal vendetta, for euronet.nl selling the bandwidth I payed for 1 year in advance, for free under wanadoo.nl (the upstream from S1-0-0.mae-east.us.euro.net to asd-bfr.euro.net still sucks, no matter how much excuses) You can't give away that which you don't own.. (bandwidth)
Just some instructions to get distros running with unpatched kernels:
/dev/hdd
..
/dev/hdc, /dev/hdd)
/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.5-22 /dev/hde3
/dev/hda! /boot.
h edrick/ /dev/hdg will lock my kernel (2.2.14) )
RedHat6.0 Hedwig B doesn't support installing onto devices higher that
I just assume they fix that in 6.1, but just turn off your on board controllers
for now, to be sure..
First boot with an emergency disk..
Next run lspci -b -v for something that says "unknown mass storage controller"
lspci -b -v
00:13.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366 (rev01)
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 120, IRQ 11
I/O ports at b800
I/O ports at bc00
I/O ports at c000
Expansion ROM at ed000000
00:13.1 Unknown mass storage controller: Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366 (rev
01)
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 120, IRQ 11
I/O ports at c400
I/O ports at c800
I/O ports at cc00
Now you see 3 lines filled with adresses,
You only need the first two adresses of each channel.
Now I assume your hd is on the primary channel of the thing as
master(stand-alone)
Look for the first two lines of adresses and (after the 'I/O at ') and
note them down..
So in my case 0xb800 and 0xbc00
RedHat 6.0:
Next put boot from your RH setup floppy/cd and at boot type:
linux ide0=0xb800,0xbc00 and hit enter
Okay, now you can install RedHat.. (assuming your cd player resides on
After installing RedHat, append this to your lilo.conf,
For example: append "ide0=0xb800,0xbc00"
This is part of my Lilo.conf
#Red Hat 6
image =
append = "ide2=0xb800,0xbc00 ide3=0xc400,0xc800"
#append = "ide2=ata66"
root =
label = Linux
alias = l
Now run lilo and you are set..
You can now use your RedHat install, but your HD will only run in PIO
mode not in ata66 (dma mode)
! It won't work if you got other hd's, if you can't change the booting
sequence in the BIOS.
Mandrake 7.0:
Next put boot from your Mandrake 7 setup floppy/cd and at boot type:
linux ide2=0xb800,0xbc00 and hit enter
make sure to add ide3= also at boot if you use the secundary (quartiary channel also)
Okay, now you can install Mandrake..
Next time you'll boot, Mandrake has set up everything so you are ready now,
Next:
If so, you'll need to boot from
Just to be sure it works okay, create a partition on your 1st hd (/dev/hda)
of say 10mb (located *beneath* the 1024 cylinder boundary!) and mount it
under
Change boot=/dev/hdaX accordingly..
Also, using the option pci=reverse (to reverse scanning of PCI devices,
in order to boot your hpt366 1st (as many sites advice), will break the
current SB Live! detection routines, if you use such a card..
Welcome to Linux...
MBr
Also check:
http://www.nl.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/
or
http://www.kernel.dk
(The Hedrick IDE patch doesn't work okay on my system, tried it since august'99, but mounting
my DVD on
Be sure to upgrade hdparm first and do NOT use -d 1 (enable dma)
and -c 1 (enable 32bit transfer) because it will crash your machine..
p.s. Isn't the SB Live! Distro called Linux Corel 2.0? Hehe.. (I prefere SuSE6.3 or Mandrake 7 however)
Well maybe it works for you, but when I mount my DVD my kernel locks up (Axboe's unmerged patches work just fine, but PIO mode is sloooowwww)
Running a bp6 myself. Several users reported stray interrupts that occure sometimes with this board, it is unclear to me if this is caused by the celeron smp workaround being flacky, the ever BetaBIOS with its troubles or, what is, more likely, the overclocking people are doing..
One advice, start limiting PCI-bus speeds to less_or_equal 33Mhz. 37,5 or 43Mhz is quite common tried, but very unwise..
Don't you mean GiB?
http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html
Ohw, err and me still keep thinking that Netscape was fscking up my fonts *again*
# Makefile for Vortex au88xx driver
#
# Copyright (c) 1999 Aureal Inc.
#
# Environment:
# AUCHIP - AU8830 (default), AU8820, or AU8810
#
# This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
# it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
# the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or
# (at your option) any later version.
The faq on the linux.aureal.com webpage:
Is the source code to the driver available? How about chip specifications?
The current driver distribution contains both source and object files. Access to Vortex hardware is provided by
object files, while the code that interfaces to the Linux kernel is provided in source form. This allows the driver to be recompiled by the customer to support new kernel distributions. We are working on a full source distribution of the driver including chip documentation.
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't this make the future source code release GPL-ed too?
--
/* Manuël Beunder, web master of the Linux SB Live! page: http://www.euronet.nl/~mailme
.
According to Alan Cox it progressing nicely, but it won't be part of the kernel before 2.4.xx (It's not part of 2.3.xx yet also).. -- /* Manuël Beunder, web master of the Linux SB Live! page: http://www.euronet.nl/~mailme .
I just had a quick look at their site, but it looks like Aureal is going to release the source code later as well, besides the partially binaries they've now released..
I'm not native English, but I believe the Americans have a phrase for this that I think sounds appropriate:
'Are you out of your fucking mind!!'
.
Would be nice if the turbo driver would run on a Celeron though... (Yes, I use win98 for occasionally playing a game, can't buy any Linux games over here anyway, tried to buy Linux Q3a at on shop that is specialiced in games and always imports them from The States, so that I've got it sooner than anyone else, replied: "No way, I'm not going to order Linux games, out of the question.."
Well really nice.. I'm off to LokiGames, making use of my creditcard for a change (only 1/100 or 1000 people has one over here, I think.)
Finally went to have a look who this 'Natalie Portman' figure is (Nevah saw StarWars, I'm a Trekkie) Jeez man, see looks just like the girl across the street.. If you like her so much, why don't you just date 'the girl across the street' and stop undressing Barbie dolls..
"Thirdly, price. The .18 micron technology is hard to produce, and I've heard reports that Sony is having a hard time churning out enough chips."
Err, how 'bout this, afaik, the chip production processes are developed by Philips and they seem to know their way around with chips..
Don't think that'll be a problem..
Sonny, where did you learn to read.. "Electronics intersegment amounts primarily consist of transactions with the Game business."