I can confidently say that the CEO of SOE is not in touch with his company.
Everquest bugs made Windows appear to be a paragon of good software design, development, and QA.
Seriously, what an idiot. Although I did have fun playing it, the idea that it was "complete" is hilarious. Aside from broken encounters... Vex Thal? Plane of Mischief? I could go on for hours but it would just make me look nerdy:D
The 'huge' bill on the taxpayers is the fault of the mayor, not the judge.
Do you blame the judge for wasting money when they find someone guilty of a crime and put them in jail? No, you blame the person who committed the crime. Same difference here except it wasn't a criminal case, instead it was civil.
Maybe that huge bill will get the taxpayers to pull their heads out of their collective ass and vote the mayor out, if he's really so bad.
Just as Windows 2003 SRV/ADS/DTC, XP home, and XP pro run on the same core, I have little doubt that these versions of windows will do so as well.
(I know because I used to work there, but don't crucify me!:) )
fedora, ubuntu, suse, debian, rhel, slackware.... the list goes on and on. There are many things to complain about with Microsoft software, but let's not be hypocritical.
Biggest difference as far as I'm concerned is that non citizens can't own their own companies there.
That one thing alone differentiates it from the old west in such a manner that the entire comparison starts to break down.
But if you enjoy(ed) it, more power to you:)
This may be true, I'm honestly not sure, but I certainly have never seen a human rights watch organization discussing how bad Indian workers have it at Microsoft... and they seemed pretty happy to me when I worked there. (Don't crucify me:p)
I also realize that's a specific, not a general observation, so I may be wrong:)
As a matter of fact, they are a very worker-hostile country. Labor abuse is a serious problem there, as apparently in order to obtain an exit visa from many of these middle-eastern countries, you need sponsorship from your employer, amounting to an almost forced labor situation in many cases. (reference: http://hrw.org/english/docs/2003/09/19/uae6388.htm)
Many times passports are confiscated, resulting in the inability to leave or in some cases even report this abuse.
I've also read another article not too long ago that I can't find now, explaining that many companies import cheap labor from outside the country promising excellent wages and opportunities, but then either cutting the workers pay immediately after they were there, amounting to a situation that many if not most of them can't afford to get out of. They have to work to survive, and never are given enough to get out of the hole and leave.
Spaceports are cool and all, but I don't think I'd want to go there to help build one!
I fully admit that, compared to most slashdotters, I'm a complete newbie at linux, in spite of the fact that I've dabbled in it many times over the years and in fact can accomplish, with some extra time, pretty much anything I can do with Windows... but I'm sorry... it's not an old and tired argument.
I went to install bugzilla last night... so I try to install (IIRC) DBI. While it's running make test, it attempts to connect to my DB, and apparently there was a bug with the way it did so (I'm still not really sure). I could connect fine on my own, and bugzilla works fine after I finally skipped that, but I spent an easy 3 hours trying to figure out what was wrong because I wanted to learn it.
I went to upgrade mysql 3.23 to mysql 5.x. Ok, that worked fine after I uninstalled the old RPMs, but then I wanted php to work right with it, and it couldn't find libmysqlclient.so.10, because in mysql 5.x it's libmysqlclient.so.15 instead. So I had to tinker with that for like 3 hours trying to figure out how it worked.
Every time I go to do something in linux, in spite of what I can tell is more power available to me in an easy fashion, it takes me a lot longer, and there are MANY more steps involved even when I know what I'm doing.
So yes, for you, it's easy. For me it will be easy. For joe blow, it's not easy because he doesn't have the time to waste on it. So no... it's not an old, tired argument.
BTW, yum doesn't work right for me 90% of the time. Probably user error. But sadly it doesn't tell me what I did wrong.
Funtionality wise, these open source solutions are awesome and I continually look forward to tinkering with it more... but usability wise... we would all do well for ourselves to hire some usability engineers more often.
I'm sure I'll get flamed for this, but quite frankly, what you call OS bloat is what the average joe user who doesn't know about computers calls "a computer that doesn't take me 6 hours to install an app on because I don't have to download source, configure, make, make install, and HOPE that nothing goes wrong on the way".
I'm all for linux and the options available freely, but until you can reliably take away that barrier to entry for computer newbies, that OS 'bloat' is the best option for many people.
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I can confidently say that the CEO of SOE is not in touch with his company. Everquest bugs made Windows appear to be a paragon of good software design, development, and QA. Seriously, what an idiot. Although I did have fun playing it, the idea that it was "complete" is hilarious. Aside from broken encounters... Vex Thal? Plane of Mischief? I could go on for hours but it would just make me look nerdy :D
but I hope that the MPAA and RIAA die in a fire.
The 'huge' bill on the taxpayers is the fault of the mayor, not the judge. Do you blame the judge for wasting money when they find someone guilty of a crime and put them in jail? No, you blame the person who committed the crime. Same difference here except it wasn't a criminal case, instead it was civil. Maybe that huge bill will get the taxpayers to pull their heads out of their collective ass and vote the mayor out, if he's really so bad.
Just as Windows 2003 SRV/ADS/DTC, XP home, and XP pro run on the same core, I have little doubt that these versions of windows will do so as well. (I know because I used to work there, but don't crucify me! :) )
fedora, ubuntu, suse, debian, rhel, slackware.... the list goes on and on. There are many things to complain about with Microsoft software, but let's not be hypocritical.
No offense, but if you're going to accuse microsoft of not caring about security, perhaps you shouldn't turn off the few things they do provide...
Then again... there are plenty who try to make their own rules and fail ;)
I forgot to mention that part!
The wildly successful in this world make their own rules. The rest of us timidly kiss our superiors asses to pay the bills.
Biggest difference as far as I'm concerned is that non citizens can't own their own companies there. That one thing alone differentiates it from the old west in such a manner that the entire comparison starts to break down. But if you enjoy(ed) it, more power to you :)
This may be true, I'm honestly not sure, but I certainly have never seen a human rights watch organization discussing how bad Indian workers have it at Microsoft... and they seemed pretty happy to me when I worked there. (Don't crucify me :p)
I also realize that's a specific, not a general observation, so I may be wrong :)
As a matter of fact, they are a very worker-hostile country. Labor abuse is a serious problem there, as apparently in order to obtain an exit visa from many of these middle-eastern countries, you need sponsorship from your employer, amounting to an almost forced labor situation in many cases. (reference: http://hrw.org/english/docs/2003/09/19/uae6388.htm )
Many times passports are confiscated, resulting in the inability to leave or in some cases even report this abuse.
I've also read another article not too long ago that I can't find now, explaining that many companies import cheap labor from outside the country promising excellent wages and opportunities, but then either cutting the workers pay immediately after they were there, amounting to a situation that many if not most of them can't afford to get out of. They have to work to survive, and never are given enough to get out of the hole and leave.
Spaceports are cool and all, but I don't think I'd want to go there to help build one!
I fully admit that, compared to most slashdotters, I'm a complete newbie at linux, in spite of the fact that I've dabbled in it many times over the years and in fact can accomplish, with some extra time, pretty much anything I can do with Windows... but I'm sorry... it's not an old and tired argument. I went to install bugzilla last night... so I try to install (IIRC) DBI. While it's running make test, it attempts to connect to my DB, and apparently there was a bug with the way it did so (I'm still not really sure). I could connect fine on my own, and bugzilla works fine after I finally skipped that, but I spent an easy 3 hours trying to figure out what was wrong because I wanted to learn it. I went to upgrade mysql 3.23 to mysql 5.x. Ok, that worked fine after I uninstalled the old RPMs, but then I wanted php to work right with it, and it couldn't find libmysqlclient.so.10, because in mysql 5.x it's libmysqlclient.so.15 instead. So I had to tinker with that for like 3 hours trying to figure out how it worked. Every time I go to do something in linux, in spite of what I can tell is more power available to me in an easy fashion, it takes me a lot longer, and there are MANY more steps involved even when I know what I'm doing. So yes, for you, it's easy. For me it will be easy. For joe blow, it's not easy because he doesn't have the time to waste on it. So no... it's not an old, tired argument. BTW, yum doesn't work right for me 90% of the time. Probably user error. But sadly it doesn't tell me what I did wrong. Funtionality wise, these open source solutions are awesome and I continually look forward to tinkering with it more... but usability wise... we would all do well for ourselves to hire some usability engineers more often.
You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villany.
I'm sure I'll get flamed for this, but quite frankly, what you call OS bloat is what the average joe user who doesn't know about computers calls "a computer that doesn't take me 6 hours to install an app on because I don't have to download source, configure, make, make install, and HOPE that nothing goes wrong on the way". I'm all for linux and the options available freely, but until you can reliably take away that barrier to entry for computer newbies, that OS 'bloat' is the best option for many people.