It's already a trend. It was already a trend before we heard all about Radiohead's experiment. It's just that most bands don't make headlines for doing it. And most bands aren't making any money from it. NIN and Radiohead already had legions of fans willing to buy anything thay they produce-- this because of their long association with record companies.
I am personally married to someone who, when she was 14, had a relationship with an adult... before she'd ever heard of the internet (we're talking 1982).
Come to think of it, my sister dated a guy who was 15+ years her senior when she was a kid; this was 15 years ago. And interestingly enough, no internet was required! (I didn't know about it at the time, but I knew the guy and thought he was alright.... still do).
As I think about this, it seems like more than 1% of the girls I knew as a teenager had relationships with older men, and it had nothing to do with the internet. People get horny IRL, too.
There's no need to talk trash. The worst that can be said about the guy is that he's an idiot for suing the Pirate Bay. He continues to make albums on his own terms, and continues to perform with top-notch bands.
I hear it, too, and I'm 35yo. I think I might have heard one of these things in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, a few years ago. If i'd known the noise was intentional, it might have driven me to vandalism.
I've heard of 401k's and IRA's, yes. And someday, when I can afford rent, heat, and groceries, I'll start one. 99% of musicans work ridiculously hard and earn pennies.
..but still addicted to Slashdot. Seriously, I missed this discussion because I was driving to a gig, one in a string of many out of state gigs this month in what is a grueling schedule that we've set for ourselves. I got home at 5am. After a long weekend of hard work, we might get paid enough to cover gas and expenses, if we're lucky. Half of what we make goes back to the band account to pay off our debts: the money it cost to produce our first CD, the money for our new CD, the money to buy our tour van (built in 1986), and soon, the money to hire a publicist. It occurs to us that buying our own recording gear and learning how to use it makes more sense than paying to use a studio. For what we paid to make our last 2 cd's, we could have gotten almost enough gear to do it right. But $20,000 worth of gear is a staggering figure for us. We're working so hard on the music that it interferes with my ability to make a living. (if this sounds whiny, its because it kind of is... I'm exhausted, demoralized, and a little broken).
It isn't as easy as y'all make it out to be with your nice theories about business models. There's no way that Radiohead would have sold a fraction of their albums if they hadn't previously had record companies promoting the hell out of them for more than a decade. How many people here actually go out to see independent bands play? How many of you buy CD's from sources like CDBaby? There are thousands of bands in the US putting out music that is better than the Big Labels', working their asses off, and failing to make ends meet because people don't take the time to hear them. And if you do buy their CD, you will probably be dissapointed because your ears are accustomed to hearing big-budget productions, and these bands cant afford it.
You said it. The best thing about life in New York City is that you don't need to drive a car. The worst thing about life in New York City is that there are too many damn cars!
It was only in the last couple of years that I started to notice the difference in quality between different bitrates of MP3's. Then CD's started to sound bad. I swear my girlfriend's cheap turntable sounds better than my audiophile CD player.
Oh, man, I hear you. When I was in college (the first time around) studying physics, I remember some of my nerdy classmates saying things like "I voted for Bush (Sr.) because he supports the space program." Awwwwwwwwwww.
Slashdot is getting way too dogmatic about this. And while sarcasm sounds clever on the surface, it strikes me now as mean-spirited and misdirected. Sure, the record companies screw performers out of most of their income-- sometimes all of it. Yes, we all hate the RIAA. Yes, the flow of cash within the recording industry is out-of-whack, and Mary Wilson is probably misguided in depending on royalties for her retirement. But come on, it's not fair to turn your rancor on the musicians, even famous ones. Mary Wilson is not some instant glam pop cutie (though she may have been in the beginning)-- she's a hard-working touring performer who has been at it for longer than many of us have been alive. If radio stations are profiting from her music, then she wants a piece; that's not outrageous. The plumber and house-construction metaphors in this thread show such a disrespect for the art that it makes me ill. A closer analogy would be that a song is like a baby-- or even more: it's really a part of yourself. I have given up carpentry and contracting to pursue music full-time. You can do what you want with the houses I've built and the sinks I've fixed, but I don't think I want you near my music. In case it gives any perspective on where Mary Wilson is coming from: Florence Ballard, one of the other three supremes, died in poverty.
The guy jumped bail in 2001 and "split for Canada"... How is this a "surprise arrest"? And while there's no denying that scientology is creepy and just plain silly, this guy seems to have a few screws loose himself.
Come on, I am so broke. I'm an amature geek, but a professional musican, and I am broke. And 99 cents is nothing to me. Sure, I can get better quality stuff for free. but I don't gave a damn about that 99 cents.
I'm getting tired of hearing people bitch about record labels and their drm, and about how musicians don't get paid when you buy a cd. It's all true, and I totally agree with you-- I'm just tired of hearing it from you, slashdot . So here's how you stick it to the record companies without pirating, AND pay the musicians: buy this cd.
http://cdbaby.com/cd/pulseprophets
Pop culture, like when I searched for the score for Mozart's 40th symphony for hours without success before I finally checked Wikipedia. There it was.
Try a google search for "fugue", and check out the pop culture.
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People (slashdotters?) left some really vitriolic comments on their blog. It would be a completely different situation of soulless corporations were making the ad. But this is just a geeky couple doing something creative that took alot of their time and energy, and was obviously done out of love, not greed.
This guy got it right. The single-minded, obsessive geekiness that it takes to become a self-taught engineer isn't really a healthy thing. My god, if only I'd spent all that computer tinkering time on something useful like hygene or learning to cook or talking to people...
There are lots of musicians (sidemen) whose names you don't know, who played on famous records. Lots of these guys are dirt poor, despite the royalties they get (or don't) from their records.
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22.3 years. Sorry-- southpark again.
I've been tempted to set up a camera myself to catch those a**holes who leave their dog mess in front of my house.
It's already a trend. It was already a trend before we heard all about Radiohead's experiment. It's just that most bands don't make headlines for doing it. And most bands aren't making any money from it. NIN and Radiohead already had legions of fans willing to buy anything thay they produce-- this because of their long association with record companies.
I am personally married to someone who, when she was 14, had a relationship with an adult... before she'd ever heard of the internet (we're talking 1982). Come to think of it, my sister dated a guy who was 15+ years her senior when she was a kid; this was 15 years ago. And interestingly enough, no internet was required! (I didn't know about it at the time, but I knew the guy and thought he was alright.... still do). As I think about this, it seems like more than 1% of the girls I knew as a teenager had relationships with older men, and it had nothing to do with the internet. People get horny IRL, too.
There's no need to talk trash. The worst that can be said about the guy is that he's an idiot for suing the Pirate Bay. He continues to make albums on his own terms, and continues to perform with top-notch bands.
I hear it, too, and I'm 35yo. I think I might have heard one of these things in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, a few years ago. If i'd known the noise was intentional, it might have driven me to vandalism.
I've heard of 401k's and IRA's, yes. And someday, when I can afford rent, heat, and groceries, I'll start one. 99% of musicans work ridiculously hard and earn pennies.
But does he have a fountain?
He should fade to obscurity and die a pauper from malnutrition like a real musician.
..but still addicted to Slashdot. Seriously, I missed this discussion because I was driving to a gig, one in a string of many out of state gigs this month in what is a grueling schedule that we've set for ourselves. I got home at 5am. After a long weekend of hard work, we might get paid enough to cover gas and expenses, if we're lucky. Half of what we make goes back to the band account to pay off our debts: the money it cost to produce our first CD, the money for our new CD, the money to buy our tour van (built in 1986), and soon, the money to hire a publicist. It occurs to us that buying our own recording gear and learning how to use it makes more sense than paying to use a studio. For what we paid to make our last 2 cd's, we could have gotten almost enough gear to do it right. But $20,000 worth of gear is a staggering figure for us. We're working so hard on the music that it interferes with my ability to make a living. (if this sounds whiny, its because it kind of is... I'm exhausted, demoralized, and a little broken). It isn't as easy as y'all make it out to be with your nice theories about business models. There's no way that Radiohead would have sold a fraction of their albums if they hadn't previously had record companies promoting the hell out of them for more than a decade. How many people here actually go out to see independent bands play? How many of you buy CD's from sources like CDBaby? There are thousands of bands in the US putting out music that is better than the Big Labels', working their asses off, and failing to make ends meet because people don't take the time to hear them. And if you do buy their CD, you will probably be dissapointed because your ears are accustomed to hearing big-budget productions, and these bands cant afford it.
I'm kind of guessing she knew it was a bad idea to wear the thing to the airport. Cute techie punk girl is cute!
Yes! And pop songs. And books. And anything with a love story gives us terribly unrealistic ideas about love.
You said it. The best thing about life in New York City is that you don't need to drive a car. The worst thing about life in New York City is that there are too many damn cars!
It was only in the last couple of years that I started to notice the difference in quality between different bitrates of MP3's. Then CD's started to sound bad. I swear my girlfriend's cheap turntable sounds better than my audiophile CD player.
Singles are for philistines.
Oh, man, I hear you. When I was in college (the first time around) studying physics, I remember some of my nerdy classmates saying things like "I voted for Bush (Sr.) because he supports the space program." Awwwwwwwwwww.
Slashdot is getting way too dogmatic about this. And while sarcasm sounds clever on the surface, it strikes me now as mean-spirited and misdirected. Sure, the record companies screw performers out of most of their income-- sometimes all of it. Yes, we all hate the RIAA. Yes, the flow of cash within the recording industry is out-of-whack, and Mary Wilson is probably misguided in depending on royalties for her retirement. But come on, it's not fair to turn your rancor on the musicians, even famous ones. Mary Wilson is not some instant glam pop cutie (though she may have been in the beginning)-- she's a hard-working touring performer who has been at it for longer than many of us have been alive. If radio stations are profiting from her music, then she wants a piece; that's not outrageous. The plumber and house-construction metaphors in this thread show such a disrespect for the art that it makes me ill. A closer analogy would be that a song is like a baby-- or even more: it's really a part of yourself. I have given up carpentry and contracting to pursue music full-time. You can do what you want with the houses I've built and the sinks I've fixed, but I don't think I want you near my music. In case it gives any perspective on where Mary Wilson is coming from: Florence Ballard, one of the other three supremes, died in poverty.
The guy jumped bail in 2001 and "split for Canada"... How is this a "surprise arrest"? And while there's no denying that scientology is creepy and just plain silly, this guy seems to have a few screws loose himself.
Must be nice.
Come on, I am so broke. I'm an amature geek, but a professional musican, and I am broke. And 99 cents is nothing to me. Sure, I can get better quality stuff for free. but I don't gave a damn about that 99 cents.
I'm getting tired of hearing people bitch about record labels and their drm, and about how musicians don't get paid when you buy a cd. It's all true, and I totally agree with you-- I'm just tired of hearing it from you, slashdot . So here's how you stick it to the record companies without pirating, AND pay the musicians: buy this cd. http://cdbaby.com/cd/pulseprophets
Pop culture, like when I searched for the score for Mozart's 40th symphony for hours without success before I finally checked Wikipedia. There it was. Try a google search for "fugue", and check out the pop culture.
People (slashdotters?) left some really vitriolic comments on their blog. It would be a completely different situation of soulless corporations were making the ad. But this is just a geeky couple doing something creative that took alot of their time and energy, and was obviously done out of love, not greed.
This guy got it right. The single-minded, obsessive geekiness that it takes to become a self-taught engineer isn't really a healthy thing. My god, if only I'd spent all that computer tinkering time on something useful like hygene or learning to cook or talking to people...
There are lots of musicians (sidemen) whose names you don't know, who played on famous records. Lots of these guys are dirt poor, despite the royalties they get (or don't) from their records.