In Europe we have 13 channels, but only 1, 7, and 13 are really independent. I can detect 5 other routers, all belonging to clueless neighbors. Guess what? They are all at the default channel 6 for some reason, except one which is on 7. I just switched to 13 and guess who's streaming FLACs all over the place:D
So your solution is: Convince all clueless neighbors that channel 6 gives the best reception!
I wonder if they have the source code for all the drivers (the kernele modules at least) they use in the thing?
Now if only Linux had been GPLv3, we could actually demand the ability to run our own software on it.
On a lighter note, imagine a Beowulf cluster of Sony point&shoot cameras! Ready..? Now imagine that same Beowulf cluster compiling Gentoo!!! I need to go to the bathroom...
Oh please. I'll eagerly consider all the technical arguments for superiority you can throw at me, but saying something like "Linux is becoming the new windows" is just throwing your own credibility out the window. You may as well have put the "fanboi" label right there.
Now about those networking differences, care to tel me why you think they are how they are?
Well, I know I do. For games only. And everytime it boots, especially after a software update, I am thankful to the chair-throwing dieties that it works again, and I can release some stress with a game as opposed to troubleshoot it.
My Vista is extremely customized. I have configured it just the way I want it, and I've trimmed it down ruthlessly. For what I need it (games), it works, and it's actually quite decent. Boots quickly too.
But the defaults that Vista comes with, which are the settings that 80+% of computer users will stick to, are horrible. It's dog slow. It's running stuff in the background that hammers the hard drive for minutes on every boot*. I don't even know what that is. In terms of usability, the defaults are fairly bad as well, in my opinion of one who has used extensively mostly everything other than MacOS.
Say what you will of Ubuntu, but it comes with sane defaults. Ones that I like with no or minimal change. I have yet to see another operating system that can say the same. That's why people who actually try it with an open mind** love it instantly.
Vista? Everyone around me hates it. They use it daily, some for days and others for a year or two, but they universally run back to XP eventually. But those people don't know anything else exists, and when I tell them, most are too scared to even consider switching for a split second.
* It's not indexing, because indexing was disabled in every way possible, and there were really no documents to index. It's gone now that I trimmed down the whole system big time, but I never found out what it was.
** As opposed to: "OMGOMG that's so not Windows. Therefore it must be shit."
Meh, who needs protection from nukes anyway? As long as all the data is safe, the Slashdot crowd will never notice the world has ended, unless they hit Google.
To restate that point somewhat succinctly, try Gentoo. Keep USE flags down to keep dependencies down, and you can make a very lean and mean system. Read the install documentation thoroughly.
After doing some research on this, it seems that he actually used the gold to buy more plutonium and go to the future, where he downloaded the Doom source code (it had been open-sourced by then), brought it back with him, and released Doom, which made him rich and famous, and thus able to buy the Ferrari.
Did anyone else read that as "John Carmack found gold in the Klondike a century earlier"? Maybe he drove one of his Ferraris at 88 mph and travelled through time to ge the gold, which he then used to buy the Ferrari?
Actually, no. DeBeers and the like diamonds will continue to be highly demanded, not despite their price, but because of their price. They will continue to be a status symbol, with their value in their price as opposed to what one got for the price.
You got the same or better diamond, but mine was way more expensive. You are a lesser human being. Move on.
That link you provided is not astroturfing. It's sarcasm, and pretty good one at that - because it sounds like astroturfing but still contains little clues that the author is actually joking.
In particular try this. It made me laugh hysterically.:)
I was going to give you a +1 Funny for the 640K reference (pure genius!), but then I wrote this to explain why I was going to do mod you up. Tough luck.
the kernel application binary interfaces are a moving target
Which is by design, so that the developers can fix bugs and introduce new features quickly without carrying compatiblity baggage. If you want your driver to work everywhere, open-source it and make it part of the kernel.
a consistent configuration system, to enable distribution
I can't even parse this one, what does configuration have to do with distribution?
audio APIs
Then what the hell is ALSA?
the integration of X11 with apps
What does Xorg have to do with... oh waaaait, he doesn't even know what he's talking about! He's confusing the kernel with the operating system. What a moron.
When will people finally learn that Linux is the kernel and the whole thing is called something else, be it Ubuntu, Gentoo or Debian. His argument is the equivalent of saying that Windows sucks because Google Earth isn't integrated with Skype.
When will people finally learn not to clump them all together in one? These are different operating systems. They are not even different versions of the same thing (like Vista and XP). They are separate things.
Ugh. I wasted my time.
. Finally, he argues that Linux needs a committee to insure that all GUIs work consistently and integrate better on the back-end with the kernel."
[strong British accent]
- Rock, mate!
- Nah, that would be paper, old chap.
- Oh, be a sport and pass me the scissors, please.
- Does any one of you know where this joke is going?
- Not really, no.
- Nope. Not at all. Ah, it's four 'o clock anyway, shall we get some tea then?
80% of consumers can't tell 192kbps mp3 from FLAC. 70% of comsumers can't tell IE from Firefox. 60% of consumers can't tell their head from their ass. Your point?
Of course I've pulled these numbers out of my ass, where I pull 63% of all statistics I post on Slashdot.
You don't have to use it, if you don't like it. To me, it's a learning tool more thn anything else - I get to see the gory details of how certain things fit together. I expect the breakage, and generally enjoy figuring out what's wrong. I run ~amd64. And I haven't noticed much breakage lately actually.
I've used it on a laptop before, and I didn't notice I/O boundness either. Also, for large builds, the merge time is insignificant compared to the compilation time.
Slashdot Mirror
And that's funny why? Mod informative.
Not on Slashdot. Next!
In Europe we have 13 channels, but only 1, 7, and 13 are really independent. I can detect 5 other routers, all belonging to clueless neighbors. Guess what? They are all at the default channel 6 for some reason, except one which is on 7. I just switched to 13 and guess who's streaming FLACs all over the place :D
So your solution is: Convince all clueless neighbors that channel 6 gives the best reception!
I wonder if they have the source code for all the drivers (the kernele modules at least) they use in the thing?
Now if only Linux had been GPLv3, we could actually demand the ability to run our own software on it.
On a lighter note, imagine a Beowulf cluster of Sony point&shoot cameras! Ready..? Now imagine that same Beowulf cluster compiling Gentoo!!! I need to go to the bathroom...
Not quite. The Sony that makes TVs is not the same company as the one that sells music. They share little more than the name.
Oh please. I'll eagerly consider all the technical arguments for superiority you can throw at me, but saying something like "Linux is becoming the new windows" is just throwing your own credibility out the window. You may as well have put the "fanboi" label right there.
Now about those networking differences, care to tel me why you think they are how they are?
Well, I know I do. For games only. And everytime it boots, especially after a software update, I am thankful to the chair-throwing dieties that it works again, and I can release some stress with a game as opposed to troubleshoot it.
My Vista is extremely customized. I have configured it just the way I want it, and I've trimmed it down ruthlessly. For what I need it (games), it works, and it's actually quite decent. Boots quickly too.
But the defaults that Vista comes with, which are the settings that 80+% of computer users will stick to, are horrible. It's dog slow. It's running stuff in the background that hammers the hard drive for minutes on every boot*. I don't even know what that is. In terms of usability, the defaults are fairly bad as well, in my opinion of one who has used extensively mostly everything other than MacOS.
Say what you will of Ubuntu, but it comes with sane defaults. Ones that I like with no or minimal change. I have yet to see another operating system that can say the same. That's why people who actually try it with an open mind** love it instantly.
Vista? Everyone around me hates it. They use it daily, some for days and others for a year or two, but they universally run back to XP eventually. But those people don't know anything else exists, and when I tell them, most are too scared to even consider switching for a split second.
* It's not indexing, because indexing was disabled in every way possible, and there were really no documents to index. It's gone now that I trimmed down the whole system big time, but I never found out what it was.
** As opposed to: "OMGOMG that's so not Windows. Therefore it must be shit."
...whoosh...
Meh, who needs protection from nukes anyway? As long as all the data is safe, the Slashdot crowd will never notice the world has ended, unless they hit Google.
To restate that point somewhat succinctly, try Gentoo. Keep USE flags down to keep dependencies down, and you can make a very lean and mean system. Read the install documentation thoroughly.
Replying to my own post:
After doing some research on this, it seems that he actually used the gold to buy more plutonium and go to the future, where he downloaded the Doom source code (it had been open-sourced by then), brought it back with him, and released Doom, which made him rich and famous, and thus able to buy the Ferrari.
It all makes sense now.
Did anyone else read that as "John Carmack found gold in the Klondike a century earlier"? Maybe he drove one of his Ferraris at 88 mph and travelled through time to ge the gold, which he then used to buy the Ferrari?
Actually, no. DeBeers and the like diamonds will continue to be highly demanded, not despite their price, but because of their price. They will continue to be a status symbol, with their value in their price as opposed to what one got for the price.
You got the same or better diamond, but mine was way more expensive. You are a lesser human being. Move on.
That link you provided is not astroturfing. It's sarcasm, and pretty good one at that - because it sounds like astroturfing but still contains little clues that the author is actually joking.
:)
In particular try this. It made me laugh hysterically.
This whole discussion leaves me to ask this one basic question:
What is life? How do we define it?
Let's get our terms clear, and then we can argue about whether we can find life elsewhere.
I was going to give you a +1 Funny for the 640K reference (pure genius!), but then I wrote this to explain why I was going to do mod you up. Tough luck.
the kernel application binary interfaces are a moving target
Which is by design, so that the developers can fix bugs and introduce new features quickly without carrying compatiblity baggage. If you want your driver to work everywhere, open-source it and make it part of the kernel.
a consistent configuration system, to enable distribution
I can't even parse this one, what does configuration have to do with distribution?
audio APIs
Then what the hell is ALSA?
the integration of X11 with apps
What does Xorg have to do with... oh waaaait, he doesn't even know what he's talking about! He's confusing the kernel with the operating system. What a moron.
When will people finally learn that Linux is the kernel and the whole thing is called something else, be it Ubuntu, Gentoo or Debian. His argument is the equivalent of saying that Windows sucks because Google Earth isn't integrated with Skype.
When will people finally learn not to clump them all together in one? These are different operating systems. They are not even different versions of the same thing (like Vista and XP). They are separate things.
Ugh. I wasted my time. . Finally, he argues that Linux needs a committee to insure that all GUIs work consistently and integrate better on the back-end with the kernel."
[strong British accent]
- Rock, mate!
- Nah, that would be paper, old chap.
- Oh, be a sport and pass me the scissors, please.
- Does any one of you know where this joke is going?
- Not really, no.
- Nope. Not at all. Ah, it's four 'o clock anyway, shall we get some tea then?
Nah, it's just that some consumers have a sense of smell, which is how they differentiate between the two.
80% of consumers can't tell 192kbps mp3 from FLAC. 70% of comsumers can't tell IE from Firefox. 60% of consumers can't tell their head from their ass. Your point?
Of course I've pulled these numbers out of my ass, where I pull 63% of all statistics I post on Slashdot.
What do you mean, there's a world that's more real? Where do I go to download that?
I hope there was no pun intended...
You don't have to use it, if you don't like it. To me, it's a learning tool more thn anything else - I get to see the gory details of how certain things fit together. I expect the breakage, and generally enjoy figuring out what's wrong. I run ~amd64. And I haven't noticed much breakage lately actually.
I've used it on a laptop before, and I didn't notice I/O boundness either. Also, for large builds, the merge time is insignificant compared to the compilation time.
Take your prerecorded uninformed Gentoo bashing elsewhere, please.