I submitted this a few weeks ago and linked the St Louis Post Dispatch. I no longer have the link, but from that account it appears that it isn't the law that's stupid, it's the prosecuter.
Lori Drew is the woman who pretended to be a young teenager and prompted a real one, one who had clinical depression, to hang herself. It's been covered at slashdot before.
If she's found guily then we have cause to complain about the law.
Thank you, I'll try. This isn't my best weekend; my anniversary was thursday and it gives me a bit of trouble on years that I don't have a girlfriend. I certainly hope you're having a better day than I am!
Ok, I found the reference after going all the way to the top of the thread and reading all of it.
When he said "the only time that people ever filed for fraud against a for-pay site was when those sites used employees to send email from fake profiles to string people along as paying customers" it is a pretty easy assumption he was getting paid.
I've been going through it in my "slashdot message service" and haven't seen most of the ocmments in it. I am now though, there are some interesting comments.
What's saddest about this is the guy doesn't think there's anything wrong with decieving people. I think it's pathetic.
If it's a free site I don't see where anybody would have legal grounds, but where did (s)he say it was free? I'd think a free site not only wouldn't need bogus accounts, but the bogus accounts would make growth slower.
One is, as its title is NSFW but you're right, I really should start putting G, PG13, R, and X on them. The one linked has violence and vulgarity. I can only think of one or two that would rate an R or an NC-17.
Does it seem that these "don't date this guy" sites might be open to serious litigation? If someone wrote lies about me in a site like that I might at least consider talking to a lawyer.
fraud Audio Help/frd/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[frawd] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation -noun 1. deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, perpetrated for profit or to gain some unfair or dishonest advantage. 2. a particular instance of such deceit or trickery: mail fraud; election frauds. 3. any deception, trickery, or humbug: That diet book is a fraud and a waste of time. 4. a person who makes deceitful pretenses; sham; poseur.
If you charge people to join a dating service with FAKE people that YOU put in there with stuff you MADE UP, it is fraud pure and simple. The fact is that people are paying you to connect with people to date, and there aren't any. You might as well charge them for goods that you don't actually have; that is essentially what you're doing.
Just because what you are doing is less underhanded than your bolded statement doesn't make it any less fraud.
scam Audio Help/skæm/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[skam] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, scammed, scamming. -noun 1. a confidence game or other fraudulent scheme, esp. for making a quick profit; swindle. -verb (used with object) 2. to cheat or defraud with a scam.
[Origin: 1960-65; orig. carnival argot; of obscure orig.]
Also, just because other people take money to connect them to nonexistant people doesn't make it any less sleazy for you to do it. Again, please delete any people that you made up to put in your database. If there aren't any real accounts, consider making it a free site for at least long enough to get some real people in there.
Actually you're wrong. There are quite a few documents from that time. To argue that he didn't perform miracles is rational, to argue that he didn't exist is not. His existance is documented.
I've been voting since Nixon, and Clinton was actually the first Presidential candidate I voted FOR rather than holding my nose and picking the lesser of two evils. I held my nose and voted for him in his first term, but I thought he did a damned good job and gladly voted for his reelection.
Abacus? Not portable enough. I used a slide rule to cheat in math class when I was in school (they didn;t have calculators back then). Stupid teachers didn't know it was cheating, they figured if I could use a slide rule I must be "real smart".
My Name Is Earl did this in the episode "Made a Lady Think I Was God". Roseanne Barr played a mean nasty woman who wore hearing aids, and Earl found out that her hearing aids picked up his walkie-talkies.
I saw this last week in New Scientist. You're jumping to some very flase conclusions. It has nothing to do with subliminal messages. From the linked article:
The device - dubbed MEDUSA (Mob Excess Deterrent Using Silent Audio) - exploits the microwave audio effect, in which short microwave pulses rapidly heat tissue, causing a shockwave inside the skull that can be detected by the ears. A series of pulses can be transmitted to produce recognisable sounds. <snip> MEDUSA involves a microwave auditory effect "loud" enough to cause discomfort or even incapacitation. Sadovnik says that normal audio safety limits do not apply since the sound does not enter through the eardrums.
"The repel effect is a combination of loudness and the irritation factor," he says. "You can't block it out."
Reagan? Wasn't that the name of the possessed girl in The Exorcist?
Thanks to these microwave guns, you no longer need to be schitzophrenic to hear voices. There have been a lot of tinfoil hat jokes (of course) in the comments, but it appears that if you're going to be part of a political demonstration from now on, a tinfoil hat may be necessary to keep the Secret Police out of your head.
You guys shoot yourselves in the feet with your scams. And yes, they ARE scams. If you charge for your service (and I have yet to see a free one) you are defrauding people.
While not being able to connect with anyone at a dating site, I managed to connect with women at non-dating sites. I met a very attractive woman while at K5 who unfortunately lives a thousand miles away.
When someone who has paid you to join your site starts a class-action suit against you for your fraud, don't be too surprised. You will deserve to be taken to the cleaners.
If your girlfriend has an account at a dating service, you don't have a girlfriend, you have a fuckbuddy. Nothing wrong with that, just be sure to use a condom.
This was going to b ethe topic of my journal today, but now it won't be. There's a writer for the St Louis Post Dispatch that encourages looking up prospective dates on various sites. This is what was actually finished (it was going to be a long journal)
This nerdy looking (but not bad looking) lady, Jaimi Dowdell, seems to think that you should google your dates. I think her tinfoil hat is on too tight.
But I digress. Ms. "Diva" may google, but she obviously doesn't wiki, as a diva is a singer. Anyway, she writes
That's right, friends. I background my dates I may not have figured out how to find Mr. Right, but I can assure you that information about Mr. Wrong is everywhere. You just have to know where to look.
And I'm not just talking to the ladies. Guys, we've got closets, too. With a little work, you can get past her shoes and wardrobe to see if any skeletons are rattling around.
Right about now, some of you are probably thinking I'm just a little creepy.
Not just creepy, but seriously delusional.
Each time you buy a house, register to vote, list your phone number, etc. you leave a trail containing bits and pieces of your life. The Web site ZabaSearch crawls the online world picking up this trail from sites containing public records and other personal information.
So I looked up this zabasearch to see if I could find myself. I plugged in "steve mcgrew", my meatspace name.
No, I'm not the comedian from Colorado. There were hits; lots and lots of hits. So I narrowed it down to Illinois.
Lots of hits. Lots and lots of hits. Stephanie McGrew. Serena McGrew. Sharon McGrew. So I narrowed it down further and did an in-browser search for "Springfield". Finally it found me - from eight fucking years ago! It listed my age correctly, but had my address on reservoir. I moved out of that rented house in 2000 when I bought the house on 7th street. The house on 7th street I diaried about extensively on K5 after my marriage came apart.
There is some SERIOUSLY bad data on this site! I clicked "images" and there were a lot of images. Images of people I never met, not one of them me. This despite the fact that I've uplodaed several pics of myself to various places, including my old now-defunct domain mcgrew.info.
The comedian from Colorado was prominent in the photos. There's one of him with Dolly parton.
It says it has a home address and phone number, which it will gladly cough up for a price.
Nope. The only phone I have is a Net 10 prepaid phone. You're not going to find its number on the internet. The search site is a scam; I should sue them for slander, since it thinks I'm the comedian from Colorado, who had the web site "Steve McGrew's White Trash World".
It says it knows my income and home value. Not likely! Not if it thinks I still live on Reservoir Street.
Personally, I'd have to be a LOT harder up to go out with the sort of freak who would investigate someone before dating them, and someone dumb enough to think that you could actually learn anything about a person from the internet.
all of that was possible not too long ago - go ask your parents
I'm 56, the last time I flew I not only could buy a ticket and pay cash without security BS, I could smoke on the plane. When I went to college you could smoke in class (I quit smoking in 1999).
But the cops were as little concerned with your Constitutional rights then as now. Pot was illegal all my life. They needed a Constitutional amendment to outlaw alcohol (My grandfather had an illegal beermaking kit in his barn), so why was it ok to outlaw marijuana or other drugs? And as to the needing a permit thing, I was 18 when the National Guard killed people who were protesting the Vietnam war at Kent State University.
People were rounded up and put in very small gages in WWII simply for having Japanese anscestry.
What would make a Mac user more knowlegeable than a Windows user? There seems to me to only be one reason why there are no Mac viruses in the wild, and it isn't popularity or "windows user cluelessness".
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I submitted this a few weeks ago and linked the St Louis Post Dispatch. I no longer have the link, but from that account it appears that it isn't the law that's stupid, it's the prosecuter.
Lori Drew is the woman who pretended to be a young teenager and prompted a real one, one who had clinical depression, to hang herself. It's been covered at slashdot before.
If she's found guily then we have cause to complain about the law.
Thank you, I'll try. This isn't my best weekend; my anniversary was thursday and it gives me a bit of trouble on years that I don't have a girlfriend. I certainly hope you're having a better day than I am!
Ok, I found the reference after going all the way to the top of the thread and reading all of it.
When he said "the only time that people ever filed for fraud against a for-pay site was when those sites used employees to send email from fake profiles to string people along as paying customers" it is a pretty easy assumption he was getting paid.
I've been going through it in my "slashdot message service" and haven't seen most of the ocmments in it. I am now though, there are some interesting comments.
What's saddest about this is the guy doesn't think there's anything wrong with decieving people. I think it's pathetic.
If it's a free site I don't see where anybody would have legal grounds, but where did (s)he say it was free? I'd think a free site not only wouldn't need bogus accounts, but the bogus accounts would make growth slower.
Thank you. His username as well, I wonder how many DUIs he has. Not much is as distracting as a few drinks too many.
As if he has never been startled by anything.
And if you do see your SO listed on a dating service, give them fair warning.
Agreed, they should have the chance of explaining themself, as should you to them.
One is, as its title is NSFW but you're right, I really should start putting G, PG13, R, and X on them. The one linked has violence and vulgarity. I can only think of one or two that would rate an R or an NC-17.
Does it seem that these "don't date this guy" sites might be open to serious litigation? If someone wrote lies about me in a site like that I might at least consider talking to a lawyer.
If you charge people to join a dating service with FAKE people that YOU put in there with stuff you MADE UP, it
is fraud pure and simple. The fact is that people are paying you to connect with people to date, and there aren't any. You might as well charge them for goods that you don't actually have; that is essentially what you're doing.
Just because what you are doing is less underhanded than your bolded statement doesn't make it any less fraud.
Also, just because other people take money to connect them to nonexistant people doesn't make it any less sleazy for you to do it. Again, please delete any people that you made up to put in your database. If there aren't any real accounts, consider making it a free site for at least long enough to get some real people in there.
"The Dork Side of the Moon", an account of the lunar eclipse last February, inclucing a home invasion and attempted murder. And reefer.
Actually you're wrong. There are quite a few documents from that time. To argue that he didn't perform miracles is rational, to argue that he didn't exist is not. His existance is documented.
I've been voting since Nixon, and Clinton was actually the first Presidential candidate I voted FOR rather than holding my nose and picking the lesser of two evils. I held my nose and voted for him in his first term, but I thought he did a damned good job and gladly voted for his reelection.
But he was still a weasel.
Abacus? Not portable enough. I used a slide rule to cheat in math class when I was in school (they didn;t have calculators back then). Stupid teachers didn't know it was cheating, they figured if I could use a slide rule I must be "real smart".
My Name Is Earl did this in the episode "Made a Lady Think I Was God". Roseanne Barr played a mean nasty woman who wore hearing aids, and Earl found out that her hearing aids picked up his walkie-talkies.
Futurama lifted that almost word for word from Isaac Asimov's Dreaming is a Private Thing.
I saw this last week in New Scientist. You're jumping to some very flase conclusions. It has nothing to do with subliminal messages. From the linked article:
Reagan? Wasn't that the name of the possessed girl in The Exorcist?
Thanks to these microwave guns, you no longer need to be schitzophrenic to hear voices. There have been a lot of tinfoil hat jokes (of course) in the comments, but it appears that if you're going to be part of a political demonstration from now on, a tinfoil hat may be necessary to keep the Secret Police out of your head.
You guys shoot yourselves in the feet with your scams. And yes, they ARE scams. If you charge for your service (and I have yet to see a free one) you are defrauding people.
While not being able to connect with anyone at a dating site, I managed to connect with women at non-dating sites. I met a very attractive woman while at K5 who unfortunately lives a thousand miles away.
When someone who has paid you to join your site starts a class-action suit against you for your fraud, don't be too surprised. You will deserve to be taken to the cleaners.
Besides, most reasonable people know better than to believe everything they read.
True, but it's also true that most people aren't reasonable.
So are other historical people, like George Washington, Atilla The Hun, or Charlemaigne?
If your girlfriend has an account at a dating service, you don't have a girlfriend, you have a fuckbuddy. Nothing wrong with that, just be sure to use a condom.
This was going to b ethe topic of my journal today, but now it won't be. There's a writer for the St Louis Post Dispatch that encourages looking up prospective dates on various sites. This is what was actually finished (it was going to be a long journal)
Personally, I'd have to be a LOT harder up to go out with the sort of freak who would investigate someone before dating them, and someone dumb enough to think that you could actually learn anything about a person from the internet.
all of that was possible not too long ago - go ask your parents
I'm 56, the last time I flew I not only could buy a ticket and pay cash without security BS, I could smoke on the plane. When I went to college you could smoke in class (I quit smoking in 1999).
But the cops were as little concerned with your Constitutional rights then as now. Pot was illegal all my life. They needed a Constitutional amendment to outlaw alcohol (My grandfather had an illegal beermaking kit in his barn), so why was it ok to outlaw marijuana or other drugs? And as to the needing a permit thing, I was 18 when the National Guard killed people who were protesting the Vietnam war at Kent State University.
People were rounded up and put in very small gages in WWII simply for having Japanese anscestry.
Why not plead "not guilty" to charges when your rights are infringed?
I wasn't arrested.
Why not file a harassment complaint and file a civil suit?
Because I'd lose the suit and be targeted personally.
Windows is the target of most because they have such a large user base
Apple shipped 1,764,000 Macintosh® computers in a single three month period. That's a pretty big potential botnet.
The "large user base" excuse doesn't hold up.
What would make a Mac user more knowlegeable than a Windows user? There seems to me to only be one reason why there are no Mac viruses in the wild, and it isn't popularity or "windows user cluelessness".