I was not going to reply to any of the people that wrote responses like yours, but you obviously put a lot of effort into this, so here goes:
and guess what ? It works pretty well !
I could pick apart your individual points, but I do not really want to take the time, and I don't NEED to. This sentence shows me that you have no idea (no offense meant, really) what these types of storage devices are needed for. My current employer uses devices like like Netapp (and a few others in the same category) to back up thousands of client servers, 24/7/365. The backups literally run nonstop all day every day for clients that pay us ungodly amounts of money for this service.
YOU CAN NOT DO THIS WITH SHIT PASTED TOGETHER FROM PARTS AT NEWEGG.
The throughput, read/write speeds, redundancy, and lets face it, reputation are just not there. Is it overpriced? More than likely, but if your frankenbox dies, do you have a tech from Newegg on site within hours to bring it back online? 99.999% uptime is unacceptable; for our clients, for us. We are not alone. This is why they charge those prices, if you don't like it, go somewhere else- (as you obviously have) more power to you!
People, please stop trying to compare a couple of drives from Newegg tossed in a chassis as a similar product for thousands less, simply because you have the same storage capacity. That's not even apples and oranges, it's more like apples and redwoods. Last I checked Netapp was still charging $10,000 per TB! Do you really think there is no reason for this?
1."with a little skill." = excludes most cell phone users. 2. The first thing noted in the video you linked is that it voids the warranty. This does not count as user fixable, IMHO. Who wants to void the warranty on a $700 phone?
... well, anything that can't be fixed by the user.
Just out of curiosity what exactly would you call a user fixable part on a cell phone? Aside from the few phones that have interchangeable outer covers, I can't think of a single thing. Not like they sell parts at Radio Shack...
You can see this every day on the 101 in CA. On ramps that start as two lanes merge into one before entering the highway, and again after. Cars are already bumper to bumper in line, but there is just enough room for another line to form on the outside. What happens is a huge cluster f@*k, and I usually see two to five accidents a week in my 14 mile commute.
Yeah, I can see that as well. My speculation is that the LED is not producing only infrared light. A quick check and Wikipedia seems to agree, but I'm not by any means an expert. Also I was just trying to be funny.
those are IR lights. When you press the button and look at the front you don't see anything, or will see a VERY faint dim red flicker
Dude. If you know someone that can see the Infrared Spectrum with their naked eye, please have them give me a call. I'm quite sure I can think up a few ways to capitalize on that...;)
Yeah, I know, AC told me that yesterday. http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=973301&cid=25138747 Honestly, if Roger Ebert thinks the general public has read enough of his personal writings to pick up that the original post was a joke, he overestimates his popularity outside of the movie critic role.
On an unrelated note, was this pure coincidence that you replied to a day old comment, or did you start reading my old stuff after I replied to you on the Oracle story?
Which means a lot of low-end 1U servers. Not exactly a lot of computer power.
You could have gone one step further and actually read the specs before deriding them...
8-HP Proliant DL360 G5 database servers, with
2 quad-core Intel Xeon Processor E5430 (2.66GHz)
32GB memory
1-HP InfiniBand Dual Port HCA
4-146GB SAS 10K hard disk drives
4-24-port InfiniBand switches
14-HP Exadata Storage Server Hardware--each is an HP ProLiant DL180 G5, with
2 quad-core Intel Xeon Processor E5430 (2.66GHz)
8GB memory
1-HP InfiniBand Dual Port HCA
12-300GB SAS or 12-1TB SATA disk drives
Now I won't argue that Sun doesn't put out more robust hardware (for that matter HP does, the DL line is far from their top end), but this is not exactly 'low end' computing power here...
There are programs called rootkits, and their entire purpose is to lie during system checks, to present one set of files to be 'checked' and another set to actually run.
Not to be too pedantic, but that's deceiving, not lying. The program (in this case a rootkit) is designed to present information a specific way, it does it. The system check reports what it sees; it is not lying, it is just incorrect.
And this is all because it was programed this way. Computers won't be able to lie for themselves until there is real working AI.
Um... depending on your scale, perhaps. How many servers are you talking about here? When the company I work for (largish web host) built it's last data center they looked into (in fact purchased some) flywheels. Not for "powering the data center for a while", but to take the place of the giant UPS - just to bridge the gap between a power loss and when the diesel generators kicked in.
We're talking less than a minute needed. In the end they couldn't use the several large and expensive flywheels because they could not provide power long enough. If you're powering your whole data center 'for a while' with these... you must have very few servers (like a handful).
If NASA is so great, why is it that the only way you can get funding is to threaten to throw my ass in jail if I don't feel like paying for it?!?!
If ANYTHING TAX FUNDED LIKE PUBLIC SCHOOL is so great, why is it that the only way you can get funding is to threaten to throw my ass in jail if I don't feel like paying for it?!?!
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and guess what ? It works pretty well !
I could pick apart your individual points, but I do not really want to take the time, and I don't NEED to. This sentence shows me that you have no idea (no offense meant, really) what these types of storage devices are needed for. My current employer uses devices like like Netapp (and a few others in the same category) to back up thousands of client servers, 24/7/365. The backups literally run nonstop all day every day for clients that pay us ungodly amounts of money for this service.
YOU CAN NOT DO THIS WITH SHIT PASTED TOGETHER FROM PARTS AT NEWEGG.
The throughput, read/write speeds, redundancy, and lets face it, reputation are just not there. Is it overpriced? More than likely, but if your frankenbox dies, do you have a tech from Newegg on site within hours to bring it back online? 99.999% uptime is unacceptable; for our clients, for us. We are not alone. This is why they charge those prices, if you don't like it, go somewhere else- (as you obviously have) more power to you!
People, please stop trying to compare a couple of drives from Newegg tossed in a chassis as a similar product for thousands less, simply because you have the same storage capacity.
That's not even apples and oranges, it's more like apples and redwoods.
Last I checked Netapp was still charging $10,000 per TB! Do you really think there is no reason for this?
But I doubt it.
Their prices and selection always sucked in my experience, and it does not look like the liquidation will change that.
1."with a little skill." = excludes most cell phone users.
2. The first thing noted in the video you linked is that it voids the warranty. This does not count as user fixable, IMHO. Who wants to void the warranty on a $700 phone?
Just out of curiosity what exactly would you call a user fixable part on a cell phone?
Aside from the few phones that have interchangeable outer covers, I can't think of a single thing. Not like they sell parts at Radio Shack...
You can see this every day on the 101 in CA. On ramps that start as two lanes merge into one before entering the highway, and again after. Cars are already bumper to bumper in line, but there is just enough room for another line to form on the outside.
What happens is a huge cluster f@*k, and I usually see two to five accidents a week in my 14 mile commute.
Yeah, I can see that as well. My speculation is that the LED is not producing only infrared light. A quick check and Wikipedia seems to agree, but I'm not by any means an expert.
Also I was just trying to be funny.
those are IR lights. When you press the button and look at the front you don't see anything, or will see a VERY faint dim red flicker
Dude. If you know someone that can see the Infrared Spectrum with their naked eye, please have them give me a call. ;)
I'm quite sure I can think up a few ways to capitalize on that...
Till the invocation of Goodwin's law. Not a record, but my hats off for the valiant try sir!
You don't need to... just read Wired.
Spoiler: just enter code "OPRAHWINFREY" on Amazon.
Is that Joe Six pack, or Joe the Plumber?
hey, sorry. Something was wrong with /. before, and (I swear) when I looked at your parent, it showed me an entirely different post.
I think in your case the word is WTF...
Not quite sure if that is funny or disturbing... :)
Oh, so that's why I quit school! I was just trying to stay happy...
Yeah, I know, AC told me that yesterday. http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=973301&cid=25138747
Honestly, if Roger Ebert thinks the general public has read enough of his personal writings to pick up that the original post was a joke, he overestimates his popularity outside of the movie critic role.
On an unrelated note, was this pure coincidence that you replied to a day old comment, or did you start reading my old stuff after I replied to you on the Oracle story?
You could have gone one step further and actually read the specs before deriding them...
8-HP Proliant DL360 G5 database servers, with
2 quad-core Intel Xeon Processor E5430 (2.66GHz)
32GB memory
1-HP InfiniBand Dual Port HCA
4-146GB SAS 10K hard disk drives
4-24-port InfiniBand switches
14-HP Exadata Storage Server Hardware--each is an HP ProLiant DL180 G5, with
2 quad-core Intel Xeon Processor E5430 (2.66GHz)
8GB memory
1-HP InfiniBand Dual Port HCA
12-300GB SAS or 12-1TB SATA disk drives
Now I won't argue that Sun doesn't put out more robust hardware (for that matter HP does, the DL line is far from their top end), but this is not exactly 'low end' computing power here...
I'm not sure if that was a joke or a troll, but he really does say they are 10,000 years old
Not to be too pedantic, but that's deceiving, not lying. The program (in this case a rootkit) is designed to present information a specific way, it does it. The system check reports what it sees; it is not lying, it is just incorrect.
And this is all because it was programed this way. Computers won't be able to lie for themselves until there is real working AI.
We're talking less than a minute needed. In the end they couldn't use the several large and expensive flywheels because they could not provide power long enough.
If you're powering your whole data center 'for a while' with these... you must have very few servers (like a handful).
OK, in my defense, while I didn't read the summary past the first line, I did RTFA (which didn't mention $121M)
Somebody's a bit off....
Excuse me mods, but how is this 'Troll'? Never worked in a union I take it. Everything is dictated by seniority.
See how that works?
Isn't that like dividing by zero?