I think your point is the most appropriate to my post:)
I'd give up my freedoms, including being falsely imprisoned/persecuted (and therefore having nearly no freedoms), in order to protect children not just from sex offenders and 'crazies', but also from the government itself. My reply was to a post damning us for removing some (false) freedom in order to keep our children safe. It was meant to say that people are willing to remove their freedoms if it will protect their children, but not that we shouldn't consider other solutions to our problems.
I think you are just taking my post a bit out of context. I don't like it when the government tells me what is right and wrong, but they do, and often they are right. They are 'right' only because of how I was raised. I wasn't raised by the government, I was raised by my parents whom taught me what is right and wrong based on what their cultural ideals are. Government and culture are one and the same, and most times the government finds it necessary to outright tell you what you can and can't do. Sure, stealing is implicitly 'wrong', but some people don't understand this. A bill that stops people from looking at child porn is NOT bad, useless maybe, but not bad.
Oh, and wait a sec, these aren't even bills!!! They aren't even perpetrated by the government!
But I digress; if the government passes a bill tomorrow saying that all women are required to be 'bare faced' (ie without covering up any part of their face), then obviously there is something wrong with our government. Why? Well, our culture is what dictates our laws, and our culture believes in the freedom to wear what you want on your face. Hence a law saying that we can wear what we want. Where it seemingly gets complicated for you is when it comes to this 'blocking of child porn' issue.
W/e, I don't really care where your line is, I know where mine is and if the government starts to pass it then I'll hop on the government bashing bandwagon and bitch. And don't pull that quote about the Nazi's taking away rights until they had none (about the priest who didn't care when they arrested the jews, blacks, ect. then suddenly it was his turn and there was no-one for him to turn to) because our government isn't made up of Nazi's, which pretty much sums up my points nicely...
OK, lets step back from this for a sec. We aren't talking about a freedom or a right, we are talking about people's perversions online and child porn. Both of which are neither rights nor freedoms (well you are allowed to be a perv, but not one involving children). The rights and freedoms of the children involved are being trampled upon. What I'm saying is that I would gladly do what it takes to make sure my children are never in such a situation. Now, there is pretty much no chance of that happening to children of mine, and as most children are abused by a friend or direct relative of the family then I pretty much don't have to give up anything in order to make sure my kinds don't end up like that (ie watch them... which doesn't even require much effort...).
Now you say that growing up in a world where the government teaches us what is good or bad is not so great, but it's a bit too late for that. Governments (and religious organizations) do that today in nearly all parts of our lives. We know it's bad to steal from a store because our government says so. If we lived in a government that encouraged theft, like ancient Sparta, then we would think it's alright. Just how some Muslim countries feel it is wrong to have women with exposed faces, although this is obviously a mix of religion and government, it is because someone told them that is the way it's going to be.
There is a line, as always, and a balance must be achieved, and I think that's the point you might be missing (or not, it's up to you). ie child porn = bad, government critics = good.
Nintendo has my loyalty because they've earned it, not because it might or might not be fashionable or because it's the coolest thing That's why I have an iPod in the back pocket of my super tight black jeans, a macbook in my retro messenger bag, and long strait hair that is dyed black with little red bits and worn so that it covers my left eye. I do it 'cause... they.. earned it... I guess...
I only tease, but what would a Nintendo fanboy look like?
I would gladly give up my own personal freedom and well being to make sure my children grow up safe. That's just what being a parent is, protecting your children, even if it is costly. Now you may say that I'm just perpetuating the cycle, and eventually we will all give up our rights and freedoms, but I say that there is no 'right' to abuse my children, and no 'freedom' to watch them being abused on some child porn website. I can't imagine that you wouldn't want to give up your ability to look at child porn just because you feel you are free to do so and giving up that ability hinders your freedoms somehow. And what's so wrong about a world free of sex predators!?!
I guess the moral is there's no such thing as a perfect recording.
Sure there is! If your music you wanted to record was a square pulse train or clock signal, the computer would be able to record it fine! Playback is another issue however... And it would be unwise to use an analog to digital converter, as those introduce a small amount of error to begin with.
Yay! Someone actually understands the underlining importance of this article! That little fact is of huge consequence, considering that the Roman's may have copied the technique from the Egyptians. Unsubstantiated theory of course but an interesting one, however. It would be even more interesting if the scientists applied this technique to other sites in Egypt and surrounding area to see if there is an applied time line to where the first use of concrete was and if it was continued all the way throughout the rest of their history. Interesting stuff indeed!
This is why console games (ps, ps2, xbx, 360, bla bla bla huj) actually stays competitive to PC (more powerful, of course) Exactly. I remember playing Halo 1 on a high def TV and seeing lots and lots of small glitches and missing textures. I'm assuming that's because on the lower rez TV's you wouldn't see these things and so you don't really have to worry about them. It's a pretty clever way to go about things:)
Hmm, well I admit that I cannot entirely grasp what you were saying there, but what I can say for sure is that there shouldn't be any emulation. In that respect I mean that if the emulation stage was removed, or replaced by dedicated hardware, then the standard game made today would run much much faster. So if AMD and ATI made this new fusion to be more of a dedicated instruction handler that off-loaded a wide range of operations from the CPU, as opposed to a dedicated on-die GPU, they might have a better chance of pushing into the hardcore gaming sector.
What I mean by dedicated instruction handler is this: The CPU receives a series of instructions (maybe a few hundred) to make a 3D model. Instead of making the CPU have to figure out what the heck to do with it all, it just re-routes it to the on-die 'GPU'. This in turn crunches some numbers that it was built to crunch, then throws it at the actual GPU, which would be situated off-die and through some kind of PCIe x16 bus. Of course the info that the on-die GPU sends the off-die GPU will be specially formatted to run really really fast on that particular card (ATI/nVidia/anything else).
I'm just guessing here, but I imagine that that would not only appeal to the hardcore nerds out there with too much money, but would also make games run much much faster. Am I on to something here or do I have it all wrong?
From what I understand I think the parent is right. If you use OpenGL, you don't worry about pipelining or however else the computer actually 'makes' the graphics, you just code it. Buuuutt.... I guess you would need to compile two versions of the same thing and put it on the same game disk, or figure out some kind of neat system so that translations are done in real time with hardware (much faster than the soft approach).
Hmm, if I understand you correctly, then it makes sense for Windows not to have the loopback filesystem. It sounds really handy, but I can see the horrible pirating applications of such a thing (heh, just look at daemon tools or Alcohol). Most major companies don't even want you backing up your CD's onto other CD's, let alone let you back them up onto your hard drive. And a tool like this, although it has little to do with actually making the copies, would still aid in that process. Still, would be nice to have for the honest and the honest-on-the-outside type people, if you know what I mean. Oh yeah, truecrypt operates kind of like what you explained, but it also encrypts data as well.
As for the first part of your post, I can see the benefits of such a system, but I also see the drawbacks. A 'closed' system would promote some kind of standardization amongst different providers of filesystems (if there are such providers) and would prevent a large menagerie of different and incompatible types. This is one element of Linux that seems a bit confusing to most, as there seems to be many many different types of Linux, all because the developers decided to do something just a tiny bit different than other developers. Projects branch off from each other and end up completely different at the end of the day. But of course this has little to do with filesystems. Of course Windows has these same problems on the application level, but at least the OS itself never 'completely' branches off (I'm excluding things like win03 server and the pro/home style it's in right now). But back to my other point, a closed system also promotes stagnation and lacklustre performance goals to support legacy operations. Like the x86 platform, just thinking about it pisses me off, stupid Transmetta couldn't do better in the marketplace so we will never see a much needed update to an ageing and inefficient platform... Anyways, I'm done ranting for a little while...
Of course I know little about the subject under discussion! That's one of the main reasons why we are having this discussion, is because I don't know what parts of Linux would be better than Windows. And not to mention that my opinion is worth nothing to those who care not whether a person decides to use Linux. And my 'lack' of information finding skills isn't under question here, it is of little concern to you however. What if I were to say some random FORTRAN line and then tell you that that line makes FORTRAN better than say C#. I don't tell you why, or what it does, but I just say to 'try' it and then you will know. That explains NOTHING! The other post in reply to my earlier one does, and it goes into great deal. Eno explained it in words and made a valid point out of it. So please, stop assuming that people think pseudo-explanations are valid points for or against an argument.
Thank you for that enlightening comment, I feel so much more fulfilled by seeing that I can type some random line and get... some random operation! w00t!
taskmgr can no longer run in the system tray to show CPU usage in WinXP as it did in Win2k.
Yes it does, not sure why you haven't noticed it if you've ever used it. Just that it takes up some processor time so people don't use it to see CPU usage...
Can I ask how you managed to 'transport' your devices to another computer? NBD looks interesting, I'm just wondering how you implemented it (any websites that have good descriptions?) If you read all the posts above you will see that I plan on having a Linux media server, and something like this would be perfect. Thanks!
Well, I see a few of your points, but really what you are describing doesn't apply to me or the majority of people out there. This includes pretty much anyone that uses their computer only at home. Plus the cost of 1000$ is a bit steep and over-estimated. There are quite a few free alternatives for Visual Studio, for instance, including ones that were made for Linux and ported over (there is even a free 'lite' version of VS from MS). And I don't even know nor care what SSH stands for, because it doesn't really affect me at all. I don't want to me mean, but you *are* being the stereotypical Linux user here.
Oh, please do! We use Linux at the university I attend, but I don't really see any tangible part of Linux that Windows can't preform adequately well.
Most of the limitations that you list here are based on the fact that companies don't see a profitable model out of Linux. If Linux becomes more popular and more and more people start using it, then companies will start investing in software designed for Linux. I'm sure that you already figured this out though. I also think that there is this business stigma against anything to do with 'open source', equating it to 'non profit'. But there are quite a few successful Linux business models out there, so really this bias is a bit misplaced.
Now, I'm probably going to upset a few friends of Linus when I say that this new Microsoft SuSE thing might help the 'image' of Linux a bit with the mainstream public, although it is already hurting it with the hardcore fans out there right now. Really, the major thing that Linux needs is support of the 'BIG' software companies. Heck, the only thing I see that is stopping me from switching is, for the most part, the lack of game support and this looming hardware conundrum. I say that 'cause getting my stuff to work in Windows is bad enough, I'm a bit weak in the knees when I think of getting it to work in Linux (although this is founded on what I heard on the internet, so it's probably not that).
I use it on my tablet. It replaces the windows login with a little app that makes you swipe your finger and logs in for you. They have a corporate version too, it might be what you are looking for. Check it out, works great for me:) Apparently it supports all sorts of identification too.
I have to agree with you on those two points. But there is another issue for a small sub-section of the general populous, people like me. I have spent countless hours tuning and playing with my system just to get it the way I like. I know windows 'cause that's what I learned on, and so switching to Linux would just be a waste of time. The things I could do on Linux I can now do on windows, with little or no problems at all. Anything that Linux is offering windows can already do, with Linux's added benefit of being free. Now with Vista looming over the horizon, the people like me are stuck in a bind. Linux is great and all, but is it really necessary to learn from the beginning? Unfortunately, that issue combined with the zero ability to play games (and wine in no-way counts) makes the decision easy for me. The only computer I own that has the slightest possibility of becoming a Linux box is my media server, which doesn't need windows. My laptop is a tablet and support/features for tablets running Linux isn't what I would want it to be right now. Oh well, I guess the media server is a start...
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I think your point is the most appropriate to my post :)
I'd give up my freedoms, including being falsely imprisoned/persecuted (and therefore having nearly no freedoms), in order to protect children not just from sex offenders and 'crazies', but also from the government itself. My reply was to a post damning us for removing some (false) freedom in order to keep our children safe. It was meant to say that people are willing to remove their freedoms if it will protect their children, but not that we shouldn't consider other solutions to our problems.
I think you are just taking my post a bit out of context. I don't like it when the government tells me what is right and wrong, but they do, and often they are right. They are 'right' only because of how I was raised. I wasn't raised by the government, I was raised by my parents whom taught me what is right and wrong based on what their cultural ideals are. Government and culture are one and the same, and most times the government finds it necessary to outright tell you what you can and can't do. Sure, stealing is implicitly 'wrong', but some people don't understand this. A bill that stops people from looking at child porn is NOT bad, useless maybe, but not bad.
Oh, and wait a sec, these aren't even bills!!! They aren't even perpetrated by the government!
But I digress; if the government passes a bill tomorrow saying that all women are required to be 'bare faced' (ie without covering up any part of their face), then obviously there is something wrong with our government. Why? Well, our culture is what dictates our laws, and our culture believes in the freedom to wear what you want on your face. Hence a law saying that we can wear what we want. Where it seemingly gets complicated for you is when it comes to this 'blocking of child porn' issue.
W/e, I don't really care where your line is, I know where mine is and if the government starts to pass it then I'll hop on the government bashing bandwagon and bitch. And don't pull that quote about the Nazi's taking away rights until they had none (about the priest who didn't care when they arrested the jews, blacks, ect. then suddenly it was his turn and there was no-one for him to turn to) because our government isn't made up of Nazi's, which pretty much sums up my points nicely...
OK, lets step back from this for a sec. We aren't talking about a freedom or a right, we are talking about people's perversions online and child porn. Both of which are neither rights nor freedoms (well you are allowed to be a perv, but not one involving children). The rights and freedoms of the children involved are being trampled upon. What I'm saying is that I would gladly do what it takes to make sure my children are never in such a situation. Now, there is pretty much no chance of that happening to children of mine, and as most children are abused by a friend or direct relative of the family then I pretty much don't have to give up anything in order to make sure my kinds don't end up like that (ie watch them... which doesn't even require much effort...).
Now you say that growing up in a world where the government teaches us what is good or bad is not so great, but it's a bit too late for that. Governments (and religious organizations) do that today in nearly all parts of our lives. We know it's bad to steal from a store because our government says so. If we lived in a government that encouraged theft, like ancient Sparta, then we would think it's alright. Just how some Muslim countries feel it is wrong to have women with exposed faces, although this is obviously a mix of religion and government, it is because someone told them that is the way it's going to be.
There is a line, as always, and a balance must be achieved, and I think that's the point you might be missing (or not, it's up to you). ie child porn = bad, government critics = good.
I only tease, but what would a Nintendo fanboy look like?
I would gladly give up my own personal freedom and well being to make sure my children grow up safe. That's just what being a parent is, protecting your children, even if it is costly. Now you may say that I'm just perpetuating the cycle, and eventually we will all give up our rights and freedoms, but I say that there is no 'right' to abuse my children, and no 'freedom' to watch them being abused on some child porn website. I can't imagine that you wouldn't want to give up your ability to look at child porn just because you feel you are free to do so and giving up that ability hinders your freedoms somehow. And what's so wrong about a world free of sex predators!?!
Sure there is! If your music you wanted to record was a square pulse train or clock signal, the computer would be able to record it fine! Playback is another issue however... And it would be unwise to use an analog to digital converter, as those introduce a small amount of error to begin with.
Yay! Someone actually understands the underlining importance of this article! That little fact is of huge consequence, considering that the Roman's may have copied the technique from the Egyptians. Unsubstantiated theory of course but an interesting one, however. It would be even more interesting if the scientists applied this technique to other sites in Egypt and surrounding area to see if there is an applied time line to where the first use of concrete was and if it was continued all the way throughout the rest of their history. Interesting stuff indeed!
Exactly. I remember playing Halo 1 on a high def TV and seeing lots and lots of small glitches and missing textures. I'm assuming that's because on the lower rez TV's you wouldn't see these things and so you don't really have to worry about them. It's a pretty clever way to go about things
HAHA, 'Fuck Epic', when I read this I thought of a porno based off of LoTR. >8|... I need to get out more...
"Eventually we'll end up with a decent processor that just emulates the x86."
:(
Ahh, the days of the transmetta... Unfortunately that never really caught on
Hmm, well I admit that I cannot entirely grasp what you were saying there, but what I can say for sure is that there shouldn't be any emulation. In that respect I mean that if the emulation stage was removed, or replaced by dedicated hardware, then the standard game made today would run much much faster. So if AMD and ATI made this new fusion to be more of a dedicated instruction handler that off-loaded a wide range of operations from the CPU, as opposed to a dedicated on-die GPU, they might have a better chance of pushing into the hardcore gaming sector.
What I mean by dedicated instruction handler is this: The CPU receives a series of instructions (maybe a few hundred) to make a 3D model. Instead of making the CPU have to figure out what the heck to do with it all, it just re-routes it to the on-die 'GPU'. This in turn crunches some numbers that it was built to crunch, then throws it at the actual GPU, which would be situated off-die and through some kind of PCIe x16 bus. Of course the info that the on-die GPU sends the off-die GPU will be specially formatted to run really really fast on that particular card (ATI/nVidia/anything else).
I'm just guessing here, but I imagine that that would not only appeal to the hardcore nerds out there with too much money, but would also make games run much much faster. Am I on to something here or do I have it all wrong?
From what I understand I think the parent is right. If you use OpenGL, you don't worry about pipelining or however else the computer actually 'makes' the graphics, you just code it. Buuuutt.... I guess you would need to compile two versions of the same thing and put it on the same game disk, or figure out some kind of neat system so that translations are done in real time with hardware (much faster than the soft approach).
Couldn't get it to work on there either...
You shouldn't have to! And if you do, then you are missing the point of having an intelligent discussion!
Hmm, if I understand you correctly, then it makes sense for Windows not to have the loopback filesystem. It sounds really handy, but I can see the horrible pirating applications of such a thing (heh, just look at daemon tools or Alcohol). Most major companies don't even want you backing up your CD's onto other CD's, let alone let you back them up onto your hard drive. And a tool like this, although it has little to do with actually making the copies, would still aid in that process. Still, would be nice to have for the honest and the honest-on-the-outside type people, if you know what I mean. Oh yeah, truecrypt operates kind of like what you explained, but it also encrypts data as well.
As for the first part of your post, I can see the benefits of such a system, but I also see the drawbacks. A 'closed' system would promote some kind of standardization amongst different providers of filesystems (if there are such providers) and would prevent a large menagerie of different and incompatible types. This is one element of Linux that seems a bit confusing to most, as there seems to be many many different types of Linux, all because the developers decided to do something just a tiny bit different than other developers. Projects branch off from each other and end up completely different at the end of the day. But of course this has little to do with filesystems. Of course Windows has these same problems on the application level, but at least the OS itself never 'completely' branches off (I'm excluding things like win03 server and the pro/home style it's in right now). But back to my other point, a closed system also promotes stagnation and lacklustre performance goals to support legacy operations. Like the x86 platform, just thinking about it pisses me off, stupid Transmetta couldn't do better in the marketplace so we will never see a much needed update to an ageing and inefficient platform... Anyways, I'm done ranting for a little while...
Of course I know little about the subject under discussion! That's one of the main reasons why we are having this discussion, is because I don't know what parts of Linux would be better than Windows. And not to mention that my opinion is worth nothing to those who care not whether a person decides to use Linux. And my 'lack' of information finding skills isn't under question here, it is of little concern to you however. What if I were to say some random FORTRAN line and then tell you that that line makes FORTRAN better than say C#. I don't tell you why, or what it does, but I just say to 'try' it and then you will know. That explains NOTHING! The other post in reply to my earlier one does, and it goes into great deal. Eno explained it in words and made a valid point out of it. So please, stop assuming that people think pseudo-explanations are valid points for or against an argument.
Thank you for that enlightening comment, I feel so much more fulfilled by seeing that I can type some random line and get... some random operation! w00t!
taskmgr can no longer run in the system tray to show CPU usage in WinXP as it did in Win2k.
Yes it does, not sure why you haven't noticed it if you've ever used it. Just that it takes up some processor time so people don't use it to see CPU usage...
Can I ask how you managed to 'transport' your devices to another computer? NBD looks interesting, I'm just wondering how you implemented it (any websites that have good descriptions?) If you read all the posts above you will see that I plan on having a Linux media server, and something like this would be perfect. Thanks!
Well, I see a few of your points, but really what you are describing doesn't apply to me or the majority of people out there. This includes pretty much anyone that uses their computer only at home. Plus the cost of 1000$ is a bit steep and over-estimated. There are quite a few free alternatives for Visual Studio, for instance, including ones that were made for Linux and ported over (there is even a free 'lite' version of VS from MS). And I don't even know nor care what SSH stands for, because it doesn't really affect me at all. I don't want to me mean, but you *are* being the stereotypical Linux user here.
Oh, please do! We use Linux at the university I attend, but I don't really see any tangible part of Linux that Windows can't preform adequately well.
Most of the limitations that you list here are based on the fact that companies don't see a profitable model out of Linux. If Linux becomes more popular and more and more people start using it, then companies will start investing in software designed for Linux. I'm sure that you already figured this out though. I also think that there is this business stigma against anything to do with 'open source', equating it to 'non profit'. But there are quite a few successful Linux business models out there, so really this bias is a bit misplaced.
Now, I'm probably going to upset a few friends of Linus when I say that this new Microsoft SuSE thing might help the 'image' of Linux a bit with the mainstream public, although it is already hurting it with the hardcore fans out there right now. Really, the major thing that Linux needs is support of the 'BIG' software companies. Heck, the only thing I see that is stopping me from switching is, for the most part, the lack of game support and this looming hardware conundrum. I say that 'cause getting my stuff to work in Windows is bad enough, I'm a bit weak in the knees when I think of getting it to work in Linux (although this is founded on what I heard on the internet, so it's probably not that).
I use it on my tablet. It replaces the windows login with a little app that makes you swipe your finger and logs in for you. They have a corporate version too, it might be what you are looking for. Check it out, works great for me :) Apparently it supports all sorts of identification too.
I have to agree with you on those two points. But there is another issue for a small sub-section of the general populous, people like me. I have spent countless hours tuning and playing with my system just to get it the way I like. I know windows 'cause that's what I learned on, and so switching to Linux would just be a waste of time. The things I could do on Linux I can now do on windows, with little or no problems at all. Anything that Linux is offering windows can already do, with Linux's added benefit of being free. Now with Vista looming over the horizon, the people like me are stuck in a bind. Linux is great and all, but is it really necessary to learn from the beginning? Unfortunately, that issue combined with the zero ability to play games (and wine in no-way counts) makes the decision easy for me. The only computer I own that has the slightest possibility of becoming a Linux box is my media server, which doesn't need windows. My laptop is a tablet and support/features for tablets running Linux isn't what I would want it to be right now. Oh well, I guess the media server is a start...
OK, If you are buying a 8800 then you KNOW you have an adequate rig to run Vista... Besides, who pays for software these days?
Errr.... 'Note to self: stay away from that guy'....