I've been following this for near two years now and was debating getting signed up on the beta program. The barrier for me has been the monthly service cost, expecting that the device may be rather limited without a good corpus of crowd-sourced data propping it up.
Good point; a stock like AAPL sort of behaves like a commodity in that regard. So the question is still about how long you will hold it and if you think the company will outperform the market + inflation. You also have the chance of beneficial corporate actions that may help your position. So do you think AAPL will beat physical gold? Oil? Basically its the difference of holding cash or . The something else being effected by the market.
Maybe right now in this global downturn AAPL stands to retain its value better than cash [think quantitative easing], and better than many of its peers - selling loads of iphones etc. So open a position and ride the trend. Nothing wrong with going with the flow when thats the thing that is happening.
People who jump into a long equity postion which pays no dividends are usually there because it looks like a good company in the "right" sector so you can expect to hold it and then dump it later.
If you are holding short term, then no, there is nothing else but betting on the bigger fool.
If you are holding long term, then you can make money on dividends and on the increase in value of a stock because a good company should appreciate in value faster than the average value of the market [e.g. S&P500 index] + inflation. Many of those companies [and a few exchange traded funds] which have this behavior also pay dividends. So looking at funds in a pension which ideally you want to try not to touch, investing long in dividend bearing vehicles can be a good strategy.
Note that the Long strategy is on the order of years where what these guys are doing is more like minutes and hours.
I agree with other posts here that point out these guys didn't do anything that any other trader isn't constantly doing; the one difference might possibly be if it can be proved these guys had insider knowledge of how this particular algo was behaving to take advantage of it, like if they had worked for Timber Hill at one point.
surely the worst part of any of this is the prospect of only 'certified' software applications able to do I/O on one of these hardware based encryption discs - think region encoded DVDs. i bet RIAA and the rest of the IP hounds cant wait for this one to go mainstream.
need to mention this at least once on this thread [given the OP], appologies in adv if its a dup.
"Every program attempts to expand until it can read mail. Those programs which cannot so expand are replaced by ones which can."
actually, the whole point is to let the user have that cosy feeling
of having the ability to recover from the enevitable massively-hosed
windows install, without giving out potentially "abused" cdrom copies of the
[Windows (TM)] OS.
i remember that we all used to get the cd(s) for the OS with new computer purchases..
thats history since XP. the ibm thinkpad has this same setup for at
least 3 years now.
MOD parent UP.
im having trouble remaining convinced that reading slashdot is all the carefully considered journalism it originally attracted readership because of.
please, editors, try and glance at the article.
..[besides that its mildy OT]..
you will maybe get your system up faster if you cheat [cheesily] and grab the config
from your currently running kernel to start from, provided you have a relatively late
model 2.4.x || >.
its the file in most distros thats sitting in/boot called config-2.4.x or 2.4.x.config
[not really using more than RH or Deb these days, so im sure there are other places/names].
if you get a working kernel image for 2.6, go back and trim/add options... at least at that point its academic.
this may be slightly OT, but i tseems to me that the last time i heard of windows systems running amok in system critical machines like an automobile,.. it was in the cumpter banks of the onboard systems in the navy. does anyone know if the navy still uses windows for basic control systems in thier ships?
Slashdot Mirror
These guys have been marketing a device that looks rather suspiciously like a spectrometer for inspecting food for a few years now:
http://tellspec.com/
I've been following this for near two years now and was debating getting signed up on the beta program. The barrier for me has been the monthly service cost, expecting that the device may be rather limited without a good corpus of crowd-sourced data propping it up.
SA is Suadi Arabia
ZA is South Africa
UHG!
Good point; a stock like AAPL sort of behaves like a commodity in that regard. So the question is still about how long you will hold it and if you think the company will outperform the market + inflation. You also have the chance of beneficial corporate actions that may help your position. So do you think AAPL will beat physical gold? Oil? Basically its the difference of holding cash or . The something else being effected by the market.
Maybe right now in this global downturn AAPL stands to retain its value better than cash [think quantitative easing], and better than many of its peers - selling loads of iphones etc. So open a position and ride the trend. Nothing wrong with going with the flow when thats the thing that is happening.
People who jump into a long equity postion which pays no dividends are usually there because it looks like a good company in the "right" sector so you can expect to hold it and then dump it later.
If you are holding short term, then no, there is nothing else but betting on the bigger fool.
If you are holding long term, then you can make money on dividends and on the increase in value of a stock because a good company should appreciate in value faster than the average value of the market [e.g. S&P500 index] + inflation. Many of those companies [and a few exchange traded funds] which have this behavior also pay dividends. So looking at funds in a pension which ideally you want to try not to touch, investing long in dividend bearing vehicles can be a good strategy.
Note that the Long strategy is on the order of years where what these guys are doing is more like minutes and hours.
I agree with other posts here that point out these guys didn't do anything that any other trader isn't constantly doing; the one difference might possibly be if it can be proved these guys had insider knowledge of how this particular algo was behaving to take advantage of it, like if they had worked for Timber Hill at one point.
surely the worst part of any of this is the prospect of only 'certified' software applications able to do I/O on one of these hardware based encryption discs - think region encoded DVDs. i bet RIAA and the rest of the IP hounds cant wait for this one to go mainstream.
does anyone else think that the constant mention of Novell and MicroSoft in the same sentences isnt doing Novell [or MicroSoft] any good?
ahh, so thats what Lord John Whorfin was doing in the insane asylum.
who knew Buckaroo Bonzai was so ahead of its time.
need to mention this at least once on this thread [given the OP], appologies in adv if its a dup.
"Every program attempts to expand until it can read mail. Those programs which cannot so expand are replaced by ones which can."
> You install mozilla as root, right?
Actually, for anyone out there who even marginally cares about thier system, you can install like:
nothing untrusted running as root.
didnt take longer than 15 seconds.
first law of data theory:
data will expand to fill the space that it has available.
next up: "Gravity still making things heavy"
besides..
yup, also very much like Schrödinger's Cat.
Schrodinger's Cat
its a different way to get there, but the same exact premise,
and the same bits of quantum theory involved.
actually, the whole point is to let the user have that cosy feeling
of having the ability to recover from the enevitable massively-hosed
windows install, without giving out potentially "abused" cdrom copies of the
[Windows (TM)] OS.
i remember that we all used to get the cd(s) for the OS with new computer purchases..
thats history since XP. the ibm thinkpad has this same setup for at
least 3 years now.
MOD parent UP.
im having trouble remaining convinced that reading slashdot is all the carefully considered journalism it originally attracted readership because of.
please, editors, try and glance at the article.
hmm, not sure how to put this any other way than "check your facts".. you'd be suprised how much firepower the nerds have ;).
umm.. something tells me, he probably uses debian ;)
..[besides that its mildy OT].. /boot called config-2.4.x or 2.4.x.config
you will maybe get your system up faster if you cheat [cheesily] and grab the config
from your currently running kernel to start from, provided you have a relatively late
model 2.4.x || >.
its the file in most distros thats sitting in
[not really using more than RH or Deb these days, so im sure there are other places/names].
if you get a working kernel image for 2.6, go back and trim/add options... at least at that point its academic.
this may be slightly OT, but i tseems to me that the last time i heard of windows systems running amok in system critical machines like an automobile,.. it was in the cumpter banks of the onboard systems in the navy. does anyone know if the navy still uses windows for basic control systems in thier ships?