You say that like it's a bad thing. See also: Rule 34.
But that aside, it's easy to understand a manufacturer erring on the side of caution in today's litigious world. One kid in the US loses an eye and it's not the drone operator that'll get sued for failing to update their firmware, it's the large global company with lots of resources.
At an individual level the risk is miniscule. For DJI the risk needs to be assessed at a corporate level, in terms of financial exposure, any criminal liability, the PR aspects and any potential barriers to future operation in a given jurisdiction.
It's why they have the no-fly zone support in the first place..
It boggles my mind how the UK can in any way equate these two activities as in any way comparable. They aren't. Period.
Maybe they are, maybe they aren't. That doesn't stop them having offline consequences, and doesn't stop the police assessing whether the law has been broken.
Oh look. Yet again "all violence is bad" is being interpreted as "you support nazis"
I think it's becoming clear that you're a white supremacist shill
Oh, sorry, my bad. "All violence is bad" is being interpreted as "you're a white supremacist".
Here's a clue: It's not a binary world. It's possible to disagree with white supremacists without supporting the violent cunts that turn up at events to cause riots.
That doesn't make me a shill, it makes you a cockwomble.
So you want Trump to implicitly support Antifa violence?
That's what you're arguing for. You're basically demanding that he completely ignores it while condemning violence from people they're attacking.
He's condeming violence from all of the violent people. I really don't fucking understand what the fuck is wrong with that. I have to assume it's something wrong with you instead.
It tells you exactly where I stand: Condemning the anti-speech violence.
That's what I do. I look at what people are actually doing and respond to that. I don't react to labels and go "oh, those nasty people" without knowing a fucking thing about them as individuals.
You do. You clearly have no interest in being objective about this, and/or don't have the slightest fucking clue what impartiality is or looks like.
You're the one saying that Trump is biased, now you're saying I'm biased. So far I've shown zero fucking bias and you're interpreting the lack of bias towards one side as bias towards the other.
Sorry, at which point did I excuse nazis? Do point out it, because I haven't seen it.
You said that Trump was wrong, I asked objectively who started the violence and you haven't answered this.
Sure, Nazis are bad. Thing is, I do get to say that people using violence to prevent speech are bad too.
It's not an either or, and you were bitching at Trump because he called out both groups instead of just following one. Now you're bitching at me for the same reason.
And we're saying, "Ok, whatever, but can we just agree that Nazis are bad?"
Yes.
Can we also now agree that people using violence to prevent free speech are bad? Or are you going to go on another anti-trump diatribe that disregards the very fucking point he's making?
I literally cannot think of a single more uniting American principle than hating on Nazis
That's so fucking ironic it hurts. Perhaps you'd care to investigate the all American hatred of communists.
Show me who got killed by the left-wing protestors. Show me where the "very fine" people are on the Unite the Right Nazi side. There is no equivalency here
Trump decried violence across the spectrum. The equivalency is that violence was perpetrated by people representing multiple factions, and they're all cunts.
President Smallfingers
Sigh.
managed to completely whiff the easiest pitch he'll ever be given
What, condemning violence? Seems he did pretty well on that one.
Thing is, I didn't just call them 'assholes', I called them cunts. I'd have called them an arsehole if I'd wanted to.
I don't know the 90% or 20-30% breakdown. I do know that there's video evidence of some of one set of complete cocks not participating in violence, and video evidence of a sizeable number of the other set of cocks being violent.
I don't need to decide which is the greater set of wanking pieces of shit, I get to accuse them all. They're all arseholes.
"I once dealt with a black person who wasn't very nice" is not an excuse for being a literal Nazi.
"I disagree with that person" is not an excuse for being violent.
You can't just "be neutral" between those groups unless you're a bigot.
I can be neutral about their right to free speech though. Seems to me that both groups included people armed and intending to commit violence to quell basic human rights.
Oddly enough I can condemn that with ease. Just because one group was 90% cunts doesn't let the 20-30% of the other group get away with acting like them.
Well, this is the problem. People seem to be avoiding the whole 'how the fuck did this start' question and going straight to 'shit, look at the outcome'.
The outcome is the story, so fine. But then Trump is berated for failing to be as one-sided as the media on this story, and the media are doing the berating, being one-sided and failing to provide the information that would help the public in general understand whether berating Trump is appropriate or not.
I'm not even in America, it's mostly fuck all to do with me. I'm just aware that my country is often influenced by American social trends and the current state of politics and media reporting in the US is fucking terrible.
Who is ultimately responsible for the violence? Who was the chief perpetrator of violence? Who instigated the violence? Who committed the worst of the violence?
[...]
In that sense, both you and Trump are wrong.
Wait? You have better information than Trump regarding who instigated the violence, committed the worst of it and is the chief perpetrator?
Do share, please, because I haven't seen any unbiased reports at all about how the violence actually started.
When Trump caveats his condemnation of the Charlottesville attack by pointing fingers at the anti-Nazi protestors, he is lessening the moral burden of the homicidal Nazi.
When the media focus exclusively on the violence from one side they lessen the moral burden on the aggressive illegally violent members of the other side.
Surely Americans should be fucking delighted that their president isn't climbing on board the witch hunt train and is instead prioritising the rule of law?
Fuck you guys. If what happened this week isn't a bigger problem in your eyes, than you are just racist motherfuckers. You should be glad my grandpa is long dead, because he was damn proud of killing Nazis, and you and the rest would likely be on his "don't give a fuck at my age" list.
So to recap: - you refuse to condemn anti-white hate speech - I condemn anti-black and anti-white hate speech - you accuse me of racism - you follow it up with a "my grandfather would kill you for being a nazi"
I think it's clear who the racist fuckwit in this conversation is.
See also: Rule 34.
Note to self: DONT use Google to confirm the obvious.
Must clear cache. Delete cookies. Replace PC.
You say that like it's a bad thing. See also: Rule 34.
But that aside, it's easy to understand a manufacturer erring on the side of caution in today's litigious world. One kid in the US loses an eye and it's not the drone operator that'll get sued for failing to update their firmware, it's the large global company with lots of resources.
At an individual level the risk is miniscule. For DJI the risk needs to be assessed at a corporate level, in terms of financial exposure, any criminal liability, the PR aspects and any potential barriers to future operation in a given jurisdiction.
It's why they have the no-fly zone support in the first place..
Although lets face it, someone guilty of domestic violence should never have fucking been shadow minister for equality in the first place.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/... documents things that only happened online.
There were very real offline consequences.
https://vault.fbi.gov/gamergat... is 170 pages of collateral from an FBI investigation into things that happened online.
It boggles my mind how the UK can in any way equate these two activities as in any way comparable. They aren't. Period.
Maybe they are, maybe they aren't. That doesn't stop them having offline consequences, and doesn't stop the police assessing whether the law has been broken.
Problem is,
An ideology that says, where possible, men and women should be assumed to be the same, treated the same
immediately conflicts with
in the short term measures are needed to balance that out
People that demand equality for men, for atheists, for white people are getting demonised and shouted down, and yes, sacked.
This is astonishingly dimwitted
This is ironic.
Oh look. Yet again "all violence is bad" is being interpreted as "you support nazis"
I think it's becoming clear that you're a white supremacist shill
Oh, sorry, my bad. "All violence is bad" is being interpreted as "you're a white supremacist".
Here's a clue: It's not a binary world. It's possible to disagree with white supremacists without supporting the violent cunts that turn up at events to cause riots.
That doesn't make me a shill, it makes you a cockwomble.
Must be fucking awesome inside your simple little black and white world. Do us all a favour and stay there.
Trump: Violence is bad.
You: Why aren't you only telling us violence from the evil Nazis is bad.
Me: Violence is bad.
You: You're biased.
Now, what do you think? Is the wife being neutral there?
I think you're making up shit to hide the fact that you are a complete and total fuckwit.
So you want Trump to implicitly support Antifa violence?
That's what you're arguing for. You're basically demanding that he completely ignores it while condemning violence from people they're attacking.
He's condeming violence from all of the violent people. I really don't fucking understand what the fuck is wrong with that. I have to assume it's something wrong with you instead.
It tells you exactly where I stand: Condemning the anti-speech violence.
That's what I do. I look at what people are actually doing and respond to that. I don't react to labels and go "oh, those nasty people" without knowing a fucking thing about them as individuals.
You do. You clearly have no interest in being objective about this, and/or don't have the slightest fucking clue what impartiality is or looks like.
You're the one saying that Trump is biased, now you're saying I'm biased. So far I've shown zero fucking bias and you're interpreting the lack of bias towards one side as bias towards the other.
That makes you the ignorant shit.
Sorry, at which point did I excuse nazis? Do point out it, because I haven't seen it.
You said that Trump was wrong, I asked objectively who started the violence and you haven't answered this.
Sure, Nazis are bad. Thing is, I do get to say that people using violence to prevent speech are bad too.
It's not an either or, and you were bitching at Trump because he called out both groups instead of just following one. Now you're bitching at me for the same reason.
And we're saying, "Ok, whatever, but can we just agree that Nazis are bad?"
Yes.
Can we also now agree that people using violence to prevent free speech are bad? Or are you going to go on another anti-trump diatribe that disregards the very fucking point he's making?
I literally cannot think of a single more uniting American principle than hating on Nazis
That's so fucking ironic it hurts. Perhaps you'd care to investigate the all American hatred of communists.
Show me who got killed by the left-wing protestors. Show me where the "very fine" people are on the Unite the Right Nazi side. There is no equivalency here
Trump decried violence across the spectrum. The equivalency is that violence was perpetrated by people representing multiple factions, and they're all cunts.
President Smallfingers
Sigh.
managed to completely whiff the easiest pitch he'll ever be given
What, condemning violence? Seems he did pretty well on that one.
Thing is, I didn't just call them 'assholes', I called them cunts. I'd have called them an arsehole if I'd wanted to.
I don't know the 90% or 20-30% breakdown. I do know that there's video evidence of some of one set of complete cocks not participating in violence, and video evidence of a sizeable number of the other set of cocks being violent.
I don't need to decide which is the greater set of wanking pieces of shit, I get to accuse them all. They're all arseholes.
"I once dealt with a black person who wasn't very nice" is not an excuse for being a literal Nazi.
"I disagree with that person" is not an excuse for being violent.
I'm going to perish anyway, may as well have a good steak first.
You can't just "be neutral" between those groups unless you're a bigot.
I can be neutral about their right to free speech though. Seems to me that both groups included people armed and intending to commit violence to quell basic human rights.
Oddly enough I can condemn that with ease. Just because one group was 90% cunts doesn't let the 20-30% of the other group get away with acting like them.
Well, this is the problem. People seem to be avoiding the whole 'how the fuck did this start' question and going straight to 'shit, look at the outcome'.
The outcome is the story, so fine. But then Trump is berated for failing to be as one-sided as the media on this story, and the media are doing the berating, being one-sided and failing to provide the information that would help the public in general understand whether berating Trump is appropriate or not.
I'm not even in America, it's mostly fuck all to do with me. I'm just aware that my country is often influenced by American social trends and the current state of politics and media reporting in the US is fucking terrible.
Who is ultimately responsible for the violence? Who was the chief perpetrator of violence? Who instigated the violence? Who committed the worst of the violence?
[...]
In that sense, both you and Trump are wrong.
Wait? You have better information than Trump regarding who instigated the violence, committed the worst of it and is the chief perpetrator?
Do share, please, because I haven't seen any unbiased reports at all about how the violence actually started.
Nazi terrorist murderers using ISIS tactics.
Wait? Which nazis have been crucifying people in the time since Trump became president? I missed that news.
Or were they burning alive people in cages?
Throwing gay people off buildings?
Suicide bombing?
Shit, I'm way out of touch here.
When Trump caveats his condemnation of the Charlottesville attack by pointing fingers at the anti-Nazi protestors, he is lessening the moral burden of the homicidal Nazi.
When the media focus exclusively on the violence from one side they lessen the moral burden on the aggressive illegally violent members of the other side.
Surely Americans should be fucking delighted that their president isn't climbing on board the witch hunt train and is instead prioritising the rule of law?
he needs to go to jail.
Sorry, that's lacking in context. You're suggesting a day trip, summary imprisonment or as a court imposed response to a crime he's committed?
Nearer around once every ninety minutes or so. Which makes sense when waiting until the end of the day would jeopardise next day delivery.
Fuck you and your inability to secure your computing devices.
I like one-click shopping, it's fucking convenient. So I'm very glad this stupid patent is expiring and I can one-click shop on other sites too.
This ability shouldn't even be legal.
Just don't fucking enable it. Even if your children are imbeciles that doesn't excuse you.
Well, lets say I want to link to an image of a bridge here on Slashdot, so that someone can see a fine example of cantilever beams.
I could link some shitty fucked up watermarked photo, or I could link to a picture someone's posted on their blog.
At no point am I stealing anybody's IP
I don't think I am. It's possible. I mean, I've never had sex with another man, I might enjoy it.
I doubt though that I'm gay. It's not the men that distract me when they walk past..
Fuck you guys. If what happened this week isn't a bigger problem in your eyes, than you are just racist motherfuckers. You should be glad my grandpa is long dead, because he was damn proud of killing Nazis, and you and the rest would likely be on his "don't give a fuck at my age" list.
So to recap:
- you refuse to condemn anti-white hate speech
- I condemn anti-black and anti-white hate speech
- you accuse me of racism
- you follow it up with a "my grandfather would kill you for being a nazi"
I think it's clear who the racist fuckwit in this conversation is.