The problem is that senior managers know they need someone to work on (e.g.) the Oracle ERP and want people that will be productive immediately.
They don't understand that getting someone with solid technical skills is more important than hands-on experience with the specific product. The ideal is both, but too many people are trained up on and have no broader understanding of that class of technology, other approaches to solving the same problems, etc.
Being hyper-specific is intentional and is easily justified by that immediate productivity requirement. It's just not terribly long-sighted.
I'm not pretending for a moment that there aren't issues that need to be resolved. So called 'honour killings' are thuggish murder, and some communities and situations do continue to discriminate against women.
That needs sorting. It does not excuse discriminating against men.
I don't care that my boss earns more than me. I do care that women get a ton of support and opportunities that I can't access because of gender differences, despite earning more than me already.
Sorry, the entire paragaraph you just quoted merely states more thoroughly that the pay gap may be due to a large variety of reasons - several of which I highlight in my challenge to find some reliable evidence that there is in fact a pay disparity of note.
Shit, you've bolded the bit that specifically highlights that market segregation is usually a factor. Women working part time earn less than men working full time? Holy shit, who would have thought that?
That's not a pay gap, that's a number of hours gap.
Women working as cleaners not lawyers in Estonia? That's not a pay gap, that's a difference in professions.
Look, I can back up my assertions with evidence. Still fucking waiting.
Straw-man. AmiMoJo made no such point at all.
AmiMoJo:
Equality of treatment in education and the workplace: Really? Women are still not treated as equals, earning on average less than men doing the same job.
I addressed the workplace, and I have addressed education, now with evidence.
I'm not asking for an awful lot here. Just equality between the sexes. What's so wrong with that?
the father is entitled to equal amounts of time off work after the birth, which is shared with the mother
Yes. The father can take six months at £136/week, while the mother can take six weeks at 90% of full pay and a further 46 weeks at £136/week. Is that a specific enough example for you?
£136/week doesn't even pay my fucking mortgage.
From your European link on gender pay:
the gender pay gap is not an indicator of the overall inequality between women and men
Not the solid evidence I was seeking, is it?
Regarding education, the focus was switched from end of year exams to ongoing continual coursework at the same time that teaching styles adjusted to better suit girls. This was done partly to address the underachievement in schools by girls, but has now led to underachievement by boys.
Neither is good, but since your point was that women aren't treated equally in education, I guess I should concede: They're definitely getting preferential treatment at the moment.
My mother has retired. My father is the same age and can not draw his pension.
Maternity leave is stupidly superior to paternity leave, don't even pretend otherwise.
Every time I walk into an NHS establishment I'm bombarded by posters about 'well women clinics' pre/post natal care, breast/cervical cancer screening. Where are the posters inviting men for cancer screening, offering drop-in opportunities to discuss their health issues, regular healthy checks?
Incidentally one of the things closing the life expectancy gap is the increased strain on women from having to work for a living now instead of being a stay-at-home mother. Men's lifestyle does indeed reduce their lifespan, those 60 hours weeks fucking add up.
The posters I do see that are targeted at men? "Feeling suicidal? Call.."
Finally, the ongoing myth about women's pay. I have yet to see solid fucking evidence that women get paid less than men for doing the same job with the same experience, the same skill level, the same working hours and the same level of negotiation for rewards.
I do see evidence that women working part time earn more than men working part time in the same roles. I do see girls getting better grades in exams because the whole education system switched to a female friendly mode of measurement. I do at every fucking job I've ever had work for women that earn more than me. At every job where a woman has done the same job as me, she's earned more - irrespective of relative capability.
Meanwhile women get specialist career guidance and counselling, the companies I work for have initiatives to boost women, and they still get to take 8 months off to have a baby then decide whether they want to come back or not. Several have not.
In the UK gender discrimination is illegal and yet men get fucked over anyway. Don't give me feminist bullshit, give me equality of the sexes.
I think he's referring to the rights that females have, that males lack.
In the UK those would include retirement age, parental leave, medical care (and life expectancy), equality of treatment in education and the workplace.
I have enough income to pay for heating, food, clean water and the three cats that do nothing but eat, sleep and demand cuddles.
On top of that I have enough income to buy arbitrary toys without checking my bank balance first. A 32GB Nexus 5 wasn't a financial decision, it was "Is this sufficiently better than my current device to justify the effort of configuring it". I could buy a new car in cash. If I tried to save I could save over half my net salary.
By any measure I can think of, I am wealthy.
Now, tell me. Where in the description above did someone else need to be struggling financial, poor, in poverty, or even just less wealthy than me in order for me to be wealthy?
Most of my car journeys are short. I commute just 8 miles each way now.
Long distance car journeys are however regular. Journeys that I couldn't do (including the return trip) in an electric car every couple of weeks.
I could rent a car for those, but then I have to drive an unknown car, go and collect it, return it, put all the stuff I keep in my car for long journeys into it, take it back out, learn its handling and cope with the fact that it wont perform as well as my current car.
Or I could buy a car capable of those longer journeys and use it for my commute too. Works out cheaper that way.
Many PC games have mod support. It's a massive value-add that a lot of developers recognise and are happy to include and happier when the player base participate.
Shit, ARMA2 was the best selling PC game for a brief period literally years after it was released because everyone wanted it so that they could play a mod.
I bought multiple copies of Mount & Blade because the base game was fun, but the player created mods turned it into a genuinely fantastic game and I wanted my friends to experience it.
Steam has a feature called the Steam Workshop. Its sole role is to simplify the sharing of player created content, most of which could be classed as 'mods'.
So no, DLC has not eliminated any motivation for a developer to incorporate mod support. Only those developers unfortunate enough to work for EA.
Sure, at one of them the CIO had an office. He has a lot of sensitive meetings, so giving him a room that he doesn't have to book makes sense. His desk however was in the middle of the open plan office, and he only used his meeting room when he was.. meeting people.
At the other, the whole exec shared a big open plan office. Only a few anal people in finance had actual private offices. Nobody was put in a prison cell. I mean, a cube.
His cat getting run over by a car is not negligence on his part. It's a cat getting run over by a fucking car.
The RSPCA where I live refuse to give rescue cats to people that wont let them outside. Google the RSPCA and tell me you're more expert on cat care than them, because I don't think you are.
Where I live cats are legally acknowledged to be wild animals in their territorial habits and lack of respect for artificial human rules. Basically cats have the right to roam and your human property rights mean fuck all to the cat - and therefore fuck all if you try and apply them to it.
They're also protected from harm.
Someone traps my cat and sends it to a shelter, I'll request that I get it back. The shelter tries to charge me for it and there'll be serious trouble.
(Sadly this means I'm unable to legally kill/maim the evil cat that lives across the road. This is the only reason it's still alive; the evil cat is the reason I now have only three cats, not four.)
- Twat stops at lights, plays with his phone - Cock behind him hits his horn - Twat goes, "Oh shit!" and accelerates through the lights even though they're red, causing an accident
Internet wise man suggests the cock hitting his horn caused the accident. My post demonstrates what I consider a viable defence against such a claim.
If you're stopped at a traffic light then pay attention to the fucking road.
Sometimes. Often I get to the right town, realise I've forgotten where I need to be and pull over so that I can look up the address and program it into the satnav.
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I work for a publicly traded company. I don't think we use H-1Bs in the US.
Why would we? We just shift all the development/support activities to South America and Asia, where we have entire buildings full of cheap staff.
Being a multi-national opens all sorts of options.
The problem is that senior managers know they need someone to work on (e.g.) the Oracle ERP and want people that will be productive immediately.
They don't understand that getting someone with solid technical skills is more important than hands-on experience with the specific product. The ideal is both, but too many people are trained up on and have no broader understanding of that class of technology, other approaches to solving the same problems, etc.
Being hyper-specific is intentional and is easily justified by that immediate productivity requirement. It's just not terribly long-sighted.
"will be" ? Already is.
I'm not pretending for a moment that there aren't issues that need to be resolved. So called 'honour killings' are thuggish murder, and some communities and situations do continue to discriminate against women.
That needs sorting. It does not excuse discriminating against men.
I don't care that my boss earns more than me. I do care that women get a ton of support and opportunities that I can't access because of gender differences, despite earning more than me already.
Where's the minister for men?
Sorry, the entire paragaraph you just quoted merely states more thoroughly that the pay gap may be due to a large variety of reasons - several of which I highlight in my challenge to find some reliable evidence that there is in fact a pay disparity of note.
Shit, you've bolded the bit that specifically highlights that market segregation is usually a factor. Women working part time earn less than men working full time? Holy shit, who would have thought that?
That's not a pay gap, that's a number of hours gap.
Women working as cleaners not lawyers in Estonia? That's not a pay gap, that's a difference in professions.
Evidence on education? Here: http://education.gov.uk/publications/eorderingdownload/00389-2007bkt-en.pdf
Look, I can back up my assertions with evidence. Still fucking waiting.
Straw-man. AmiMoJo made no such point at all.
AmiMoJo:
Equality of treatment in education and the workplace: Really? Women are still not treated as equals, earning on average less than men doing the same job.
I addressed the workplace, and I have addressed education, now with evidence.
I'm not asking for an awful lot here. Just equality between the sexes. What's so wrong with that?
the father is entitled to equal amounts of time off work after the birth, which is shared with the mother
Yes. The father can take six months at £136/week, while the mother can take six weeks at 90% of full pay and a further 46 weeks at £136/week. Is that a specific enough example for you?
£136/week doesn't even pay my fucking mortgage.
From your European link on gender pay:
the gender pay gap is not an indicator of the overall inequality between women and men
Not the solid evidence I was seeking, is it?
Regarding education, the focus was switched from end of year exams to ongoing continual coursework at the same time that teaching styles adjusted to better suit girls. This was done partly to address the underachievement in schools by girls, but has now led to underachievement by boys.
Neither is good, but since your point was that women aren't treated equally in education, I guess I should concede: They're definitely getting preferential treatment at the moment.
My mother has retired. My father is the same age and can not draw his pension.
Maternity leave is stupidly superior to paternity leave, don't even pretend otherwise.
Every time I walk into an NHS establishment I'm bombarded by posters about 'well women clinics' pre/post natal care, breast/cervical cancer screening. Where are the posters inviting men for cancer screening, offering drop-in opportunities to discuss their health issues, regular healthy checks?
Incidentally one of the things closing the life expectancy gap is the increased strain on women from having to work for a living now instead of being a stay-at-home mother. Men's lifestyle does indeed reduce their lifespan, those 60 hours weeks fucking add up.
The posters I do see that are targeted at men? "Feeling suicidal? Call.."
Finally, the ongoing myth about women's pay. I have yet to see solid fucking evidence that women get paid less than men for doing the same job with the same experience, the same skill level, the same working hours and the same level of negotiation for rewards.
I do see evidence that women working part time earn more than men working part time in the same roles. I do see girls getting better grades in exams because the whole education system switched to a female friendly mode of measurement. I do at every fucking job I've ever had work for women that earn more than me. At every job where a woman has done the same job as me, she's earned more - irrespective of relative capability.
Meanwhile women get specialist career guidance and counselling, the companies I work for have initiatives to boost women, and they still get to take 8 months off to have a baby then decide whether they want to come back or not. Several have not.
In the UK gender discrimination is illegal and yet men get fucked over anyway. Don't give me feminist bullshit, give me equality of the sexes.
Yeah, I use plain text for email, and I am incapable of reading code in a font that isn't fixed space.
For general use though I prefer proportional spacing.
The irony being that non-fixed-space fonts are more popular because for most people, they are more readable.
Me, I'm still cursing Randall for teaching me about kerning. Bastard.
Few CEOs or executives at any level are women. Must just mean women don't want to work those jobs.
This may be true. Women like having a family and spending time at home with it.
That doesn't gel well with executive responsibilities or working hours. CEOs don't spend much time with the kids.
Just like how most doctors are men and how most lawyers are too.
In at least 13 European countries there are more female doctors than male.
In the UK the number of women becoming doctors is 30% higher than the number of men.
I'm not sure you know what you're talking about.
it's because of men being sexist pigs, not because women just aren't interested in computers (or video games, or construction jobs, or whatever)
I've never heard a feminist complain that there aren't enough female refuse collectors.
I think he's referring to the rights that females have, that males lack.
In the UK those would include retirement age, parental leave, medical care (and life expectancy), equality of treatment in education and the workplace.
I have enough income to pay for heating, food, clean water and the three cats that do nothing but eat, sleep and demand cuddles.
On top of that I have enough income to buy arbitrary toys without checking my bank balance first. A 32GB Nexus 5 wasn't a financial decision, it was "Is this sufficiently better than my current device to justify the effort of configuring it". I could buy a new car in cash. If I tried to save I could save over half my net salary.
By any measure I can think of, I am wealthy.
Now, tell me. Where in the description above did someone else need to be struggling financial, poor, in poverty, or even just less wealthy than me in order for me to be wealthy?
This'll make you laugh, but I can't charge a car at home, let alone my destination.
I can't park anywhere near my house.
Most of my car journeys are short. I commute just 8 miles each way now.
Long distance car journeys are however regular. Journeys that I couldn't do (including the return trip) in an electric car every couple of weeks.
I could rent a car for those, but then I have to drive an unknown car, go and collect it, return it, put all the stuff I keep in my car for long journeys into it, take it back out, learn its handling and cope with the fact that it wont perform as well as my current car.
Or I could buy a car capable of those longer journeys and use it for my commute too. Works out cheaper that way.
Damn you, now I want some faggots.
http://groceries.asda.com/asda-webstore/landing/home.shtml?cmpid=ahc-_-ghs-sna1-_-asdacom-dsk-_-hp#/product/910001174639
You can now buy the premium ammo with 'silver' earned through in-game play.
It's too expensive to use every match, but it means you can have it available for those rare moments that it will actually make a difference.
Many PC games have mod support. It's a massive value-add that a lot of developers recognise and are happy to include and happier when the player base participate.
Shit, ARMA2 was the best selling PC game for a brief period literally years after it was released because everyone wanted it so that they could play a mod.
I bought multiple copies of Mount & Blade because the base game was fun, but the player created mods turned it into a genuinely fantastic game and I wanted my friends to experience it.
Steam has a feature called the Steam Workshop. Its sole role is to simplify the sharing of player created content, most of which could be classed as 'mods'.
So no, DLC has not eliminated any motivation for a developer to incorporate mod support. Only those developers unfortunate enough to work for EA.
Yes, I have. At two different companies.
Sure, at one of them the CIO had an office. He has a lot of sensitive meetings, so giving him a room that he doesn't have to book makes sense. His desk however was in the middle of the open plan office, and he only used his meeting room when he was.. meeting people.
At the other, the whole exec shared a big open plan office. Only a few anal people in finance had actual private offices. Nobody was put in a prison cell. I mean, a cube.
You're extremely rare then.
Most peoples' jobs involve talking to people. Hiding them away in cubes damages the work environment.
His cat getting run over by a car is not negligence on his part. It's a cat getting run over by a fucking car.
The RSPCA where I live refuse to give rescue cats to people that wont let them outside. Google the RSPCA and tell me you're more expert on cat care than them, because I don't think you are.
Where I live cats are legally acknowledged to be wild animals in their territorial habits and lack of respect for artificial human rules. Basically cats have the right to roam and your human property rights mean fuck all to the cat - and therefore fuck all if you try and apply them to it.
They're also protected from harm.
Someone traps my cat and sends it to a shelter, I'll request that I get it back. The shelter tries to charge me for it and there'll be serious trouble.
(Sadly this means I'm unable to legally kill/maim the evil cat that lives across the road. This is the only reason it's still alive; the evil cat is the reason I now have only three cats, not four.)
You aren't following the discussion.
- Twat stops at lights, plays with his phone
- Cock behind him hits his horn
- Twat goes, "Oh shit!" and accelerates through the lights even though they're red, causing an accident
Internet wise man suggests the cock hitting his horn caused the accident.
My post demonstrates what I consider a viable defence against such a claim.
If you're stopped at a traffic light then pay attention to the fucking road.
Sometimes. Often I get to the right town, realise I've forgotten where I need to be and pull over so that I can look up the address and program it into the satnav.
But no, I don't do that while driving.
No, Mapplezongle.
Any word ending in zongle must be good, yeah?
Actually, Mipplezongle. mmm, mipples.